Idiots that persist on walking on frozen lakes despite warnings.

Trojan911

Paulzx wrote: »

I don't think laws regarding stupidity are on the statute books.

No, however, recklessness should cover it or the Public Order Act should cover it somewhere.... or trespass (if applicable).

What was that plank charged with that was dancing on the fountain in Corks Grand Parade recently? He apparently got three months inside and a hefty fine.....

Trojan911

Trojan911 wrote: »

No, however, recklessness should cover it or the Public Order Act should cover it somewhere.... or trespass (if applicable).

What was that plank charged with that was dancing on the fountain in Corks Grand Parade recently? He apparently got three months inside and a hefty fine.....

Non Fatal won't cover it as they are not risking others in their actions. Which part of Public Order? Section 8, Failure to comply with a direction. You would need a garda at every bit of frozen water then. Tresspass? Would you arrest them for swimming in the summer?

Bosco boy

Paulzx wrote: »

I don't really understand what you plan to prosecute them with. I don't think laws regarding stupidity are on the statute books. Maybe some legal boffins will correct me


I'd be much keener on more effort being put into prosecuting those who assault and obstruct members of the ES rather than criminalising those who require our assistance

Are you suggesting the gardai dont make an effort?

opti76

Trojan911 wrote: »

No, however, recklessness should cover it or the Public Order Act should cover it somewhere.... or trespass (if applicable).

What was that plank charged with that was dancing on the fountain in Corks Grand Parade recently? He apparently got three months inside and a hefty fine.....

indecent exposure.. he spent 40 minutes flashing his bits at the good people of the republic

Paulzx

Bosco boy wrote: »

Are you suggesting the gardai dont make an effort?

Ehhhh. Where did i say that?

Bosco boy

Paulzx wrote: »

Ehhhh. Where did i say that?

read your own posts

Trojan911

Paulzx wrote: »

I'd be much keener on more effort being put into prosecuting those who assault and obstruct members of the ES rather than criminalising those who require our assistance

For info: There is a specific offence for this here

wrote:

Section 185 of the Criminal Justice Act 2006 makes it an offence to assault or threaten to assault fire brigade personnel during the execution of their duties. The penalty for this offence is a fine of 5,000 euro and 7 years in prison (or both). It is also an offence to obstruct or impede fire brigade personnel from carrying out their duties. This offence carries a fine of 2,500 euro.

You are Fire Services?

Paulzx

Bosco boy wrote: »

read your own posts

I can read them but you obviously can't. Please refrain from attributing comments to me that i have plainly not made.



Trojan,
I am well aware of the law as regards obstructing Fire Services personnel. Thanks for the refresher.


I will try and make things clearer for Bosco and others who wish to levy the stupid.

Your suggestion is basically to examine all ES callouts and have a decision made as to whether the call is to be classisied as "stupid" . These calls would then attract a bill commensurate with the cost of the rescue operation e.g cost of fire personnel, ambulance, gardai, coastguard, mountain rescue etc. Maybe we could call it a "stupidity levy" or if you have a more suitable suggestion please post it.

"Non stupid" calls would not attract any charge.


So we'll just try and scale this down to one agency. DFB will set up an office with an officer plus whatever personnel are required and are experts in stupidity ( we have plenty qualified for this in house ). Their job will be to invent a scale of stupidity. They will reveiw all turnouts we attend and then decide and allocate stupidity. They will then send the heavies ( plenty of heavy fireman around ) around to the stupid persons house and extract payment. If it was a multi agency turnout i'm sure like good honest "stupidity" investigators they will hand over a portion of the cash to that agency.

Jesus. I think we're onto a plan here.



Now to help Bosco in his interpretation of my comments. I would much prefer if the personnel in the stupidity office concentrated their efforts on co ordinating the info from all attacks on our personnel etc. and assisted the gardai in contacting personnel etc. This to me would be a much more valid use of resources than setting up a "Stupidity Inquisition!

Now if you could show me where i said gardai don't bother their arse i would be obliged.

wreckless

Paulzx wrote: »

Jesus. I think we're onto a plan here.

:D, thats some funny stuff Paul

but dont be giving the white shirts any more ideas, the PDA`s are cut enough at the moment.

Paulzx

wreckless wrote: »

, the PDA`s are cut enough at the moment.

Believe it or not ours have actually increased for certain turnouts. I know its a different situation for the Retained brigades

Bosco boy

Paulzx wrote: »

I can read them but you obviously can't. Please refrain from attributing comments to me that i have plainly not made.



Trojan,
I am well aware of the law as regards obstructing Fire Services personnel. Thanks for the refresher.


I will try and make things clearer for Bosco and others who wish to levy the stupid.

Your suggestion is basically to examine all ES callouts and have a decision made as to whether the call is to be classisied as "stupid" . These calls would then attract a bill commensurate with the cost of the rescue operation e.g cost of fire personnel, ambulance, gardai, coastguard, mountain rescue etc. Maybe we could call it a "stupidity levy" or if you have a more suitable suggestion please post it.

"Non stupid" calls would not attract any charge.


So we'll just try and scale this down to one agency. DFB will set up an office with an officer plus whatever personnel are required and are experts in stupidity ( we have plenty qualified for this in house ). Their job will be to invent a scale of stupidity. They will reveiw all turnouts we attend and then decide and allocate stupidity. They will then send the heavies ( plenty of heavy fireman around ) around to the stupid persons house and extract payment. If it was a multi agency turnout i'm sure like good honest "stupidity" investigators they will hand over a portion of the cash to that agency.

Jesus. I think we're onto a plan here.



Now to help Bosco in his interpretation of my comments. I would much prefer if the personnel in the stupidity office concentrated their efforts on co ordinating the info from all attacks on our personnel etc. and assisted the gardai in contacting personnel etc. This to me would be a much more valid use of resources than setting up a "Stupidity Inquisition!

Now if you could show me where i said gardai don't bother their arse i would be obliged.

please explain "stupidity office" and "Stupidity inquisition" I'm not great at riddles

Paulzx

Bosco boy wrote: »

please explain "stupidity office" and "Stupidity inquisition" I'm not great at riddles

Please tell me you are joking.

It's not my job to hold your hand and teach you the english language. Sign up for a night course.

Hooch

Relax fellas.....I only warn once;)

Thanks

Bosco boy

Paulzx wrote: »

Please tell me you are joking.

It's not my job to hold your hand and teach you the english language. Sign up for a night course.

The night course sounds better than holding hands, its just the riddles I can't figure out

Paulzx

Bosco boy wrote: »

The night course sounds better than holding hands, its just the riddles I can't figure out

The night course might explain what a riddle actually is 'cause i don't see any in this thread.

Shield

Jaysus lads will yiz ever knock it off?

Paulzx

psni wrote: »

Jaysus lads will yiz ever knock it off?

Fair enough. Keyboard locked on this one