Gormley's Freezing Pipes

TheDuderino

Why is John Gormley saying running water in your house at night doesnt stop the pipes freezing??!!

Experience of a multitude of people say otherwise.

Unless that is, he thinks we all live in Alaska....

Next he'll be saying we can stay warm AND save on heating bills by hugging more trees. No doubt he'll want to introduce a tax or metering on that well.

Morlar

TheDuderino wrote: »

Why is John Gormley saying running water in your house at night doesnt stop the pipes freezing??!!

Experience of a multitude of people say otherwise.

Unless that is, he thinks we all live in Alaska....

Next he'll be saying we can stay warm AND save on heating bills by hugging more trees. No doubt he'll want to introduce a tax or metering on that well.

Wooden bicycles for all - that will keep you moving in the snow.

Vain

Hey buddy you better keep your tap turned off, if we run out of water and I have to drink my piss like in WaterWorld I will have to come after you:pac:

RoadKillTs

He just doesn't want everyone leaving their taps on wasting water.

faceman

Id rather have frozen pipes than an empty resevoir.



That was probably the dirtiest thing I have said all day.

walshb

I think he is against the continual and non stop running of the water.
This is understandable. Every so ofter, run the taps, but is there a need to
have them running constantly?

Local-womanizer

Its rare for pipes in an occupied house to freeze. Mine havent and we havent been into positive temps for 3 weeks.

It only leads to wasting to waterThe only pipes that have burst up here are in rented houses that have been left empty for 3 weeks.

My name is URL

If you live in a row of houses where one persons pipes are frozen and leave your taps running it could interupt the water pressure for everyone else on the street

TheDuderino

Vain wrote: »

Hey buddy you better keep your tap turned off, if we run out of water and I have to drink my piss like in WaterWorld I will have to come after you:pac:

I started drinking my own a few weeks ago, and we had no shortage of water.

Tangy!

Reminds me o Blackadder - Tom Baker as Captain Rum...

TheDuderino

The house Im in, I ran one tap at a dribble. It didnt freeze. Another one did.
I dont mean running them 24/7.... just nighttime.

Id prefer temporarily having no water to having burst pipes and a repair bill in the thousands.

KevR

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Its rare for pipes in an occupied house to freeze. Mine havent and we havent been into positive temps for 3 weeks.

It only leads to wasting to waterThe only pipes that have burst up here are in rented houses that have been left empty for 3 weeks.

Same here, we haven't left any taps running and our pipes haven't frozen. Our water pressure is really low though (I presume from other people leaving taps running). The City Council have said they might have to start switching of the water supply to stop the resevoirs going completely empty.

monkeypants

Only had one pipe freeze and burst and that was a small one that ran outside from the mains to an external tap. Not a hope of getting a plumber, so I took a vice grip and just crimped the pipe. Won't be needing the tap before summer, plenty of time to replace the pipe.

bonerm

As a general rule I do the opposite of whatever our Montrose masters try to feed into my brainhole.

AnonoBoy

bonerm wrote: »

As a general rule I do the opposite of whatever our Montrose masters try to feed into my brainhole.

I'm pretty sure Gormley doesn't live in Montrose.

Heinrich

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I'm pretty sure Gormley doesn't live in Montrose.

He's been living on Planet Bertie since 2007.

Ickle Magoo

Yup, running water does stop them freezing and when the water gets cut off because there is hardly any left because it hasn't frozen and kept running, ye can tell them you told them so....

Odysseus

I don't leave mine on for the above reasons, however I only get to stay in my place one night during the work week. I wish I had now. I arrived home on Friday to find the mains frozen, none burst thank god. However, I just got running water this morning, been without it and heat all weekend.

Next time its a case of fcuk the supplies if I'm going to be away for a few day in wheather like this, the tap will be left on.

brianthebard

TheDuderino wrote: »

The house Im in, I ran one tap at a dribble. It didnt freeze. Another one did.
I dont mean running them 24/7.... just nighttime.

just 8-10-16 hours is it? Isn't that good of you. What retard came up with the idea of running taps to stop the water freezing?

Morlar

brianthebard wrote: »

just 8-10-16 hours is it? Isn't that good of you. What retard came up with the idea of running taps to stop the water freezing?

Grannies everywhere do this.

Not drip-drip-drip.

More drip - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - drip - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -drip etc

brianthebard

grannies are dumb. There I said it.

swingking

Thanks to all those inconsiderate people leaving their taps on, South Dublin county council has now cut our running water.

:mad::mad::mad:

dvpower

Another good case for water metering.
When people have to pay the real cost of leaving taps running, they'll stop doing it.

enniscorthy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9J65j2GNzw

TPD

dvpower wrote: »

Another good case for water metering.
When people have to pay the real cost of leaving taps running, they'll stop doing it.

I'd pay the price of a nights dripping, say maybe half a bucket, if it meant not bursting my pipes.

ScumLord

faceman wrote: »

Id rather have frozen pipes than an empty resevoir.

But if you've frozen pipes you can't get the water in the reservoir.

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Its rare for pipes in an occupied house to freeze.

That would have been true if builders put the pipes down the proper distance under ground but they didn't bother and many new houses are the ones with the frozen or burst pipes.

One of my friends had the taps running and turned them off after coming home from the pub only to find them frozen solid the next day.

Rockn

Leave the tap running to prevent freezing? Now you tell me. I'll have to think of that next time it gets cold.

galwayrush

Who takes the Greens serious any more?>:rolleyes:

bluto63

It's also costing the taxpayer. All water has to be treated, so if you're wasting the water, you'll end up paying for it later

PrivateEye

Palmerstown, no water at the minute.

The SDCC number is useless btw, if you want to get through to them I suggest you ring the library and get them to put you through to somebody in the Council directly.

They fed my old man some nonsense this morning, he mentioned working in the Fire Brigade and t hey said "oh I suppose you know how bad it really is then "

This country.

Seth Brundle

Morlar wrote: »

More drip - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - drip - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -drip etc

Is that some kind of morse code?

twinytwo

faceman wrote: »

Id rather have frozen pipes than an empty resevoir.



That was probably the dirtiest thing I have said all day.

The real problem is that there hasnt been a resevoir built in dublin in like 20/30 years? infact that goes for the entire country if i remember correctly but that never gets mentioned... while yes wasting water is bad what choice do you have.. if the pipes freeze are you to spend a fortune on water?

Buford T Justice

kbannon wrote: »

Is that some kind of morse code?

No, Its John Gormless having an epiphany about the Cold Snap. - Maybe we can tax that?

SligoBrewer

twinytwo wrote: »

The real problem is that there hasnt been a resevoir built in dublin in like 20/30 years? infact that goes for the entire country if i remember correctly but that never gets mentioned... while yes wasting water is bad what choice do you have.. if the pipes freeze are you to spend a fortune on water?

There have been reservoirs built in the last 30 years thanks very much. **** all use though if people keep wasting water.

arybvtcw0eolkf

"If its yellow, let it mellow.
If its brown, flush it down!"

And turn off your bleed'n taps for crying out load.

ScumLord

SligoBrewer wrote: »

There have been reservoirs built in the last 30 years thanks very much. **** all use though if people keep wasting water.

How much of it is end user wastage though? It's not really a waste if it's achieving something which is stopping your pipes from bursting.

There shouldn't be anything close to a water shortage in this country, as usual our infrastructure is out of date and inadequate.

SligoBrewer

ScumLord wrote: »

How much of it is end user wastage though? It's not really a waste if it's achieving something which is stopping your pipes from bursting.

There shouldn't be anything close to a water shortage in this country, as usual our infrastructure is out of date and inadequate and underfunded.

Fixed that for you.

dvpower

The Perfect Drug wrote: »

I'd pay the price of a nights dripping, say maybe half a bucket, if it meant not bursting my pipes.

Me too (if it meant not bursting my pipes).
If everyone was just using just an extra 1/2 bucket a day, we wouldn't have water shortages.

BostonB

Shoddy building practise and little regulation caused a lot of problems with this. Poor plumbing, poor insulation, pipes in walls/attics not insulated and piples in ground too shallow.

I seem to remember theres a big problems of leakeage with the water supply even before this, because of the old water mains?

BostonB

dvpower wrote: »

Another good case for water metering.
When people have to pay the real cost of leaving taps running, they'll stop doing it.

Fixing burst pipes is likely to be more expensive than water charges though.

Saint_Mel

dvpower wrote: »

Another good case for water metering.
When people have to pay the real cost of leaving taps running, they'll stop doing it.

They would want to make sure they are able to provide an adequate service before they expect people to pay for it.

dvpower

Saint_Mel wrote: »

They would want to make sure they are able to provide an adequate service before they expect people to pay for it.

If I compare my current water service with the other services that I currently pay for (gas, electric, bin collection ...), it compares favourably.

I don't know why it needs to free until it is 'adequate'. People should be able to choose to source their own water is they want, or pay for the service that is provided by the councils.

ro09

TheDuderino wrote: »

Why is John Gormley saying running water in your house at night doesnt stop the pipes freezing??!!

Experience of a multitude of people say otherwise.

Unless that is, he thinks we all live in Alaska....

Next he'll be saying we can stay warm AND save on heating bills by hugging more trees. No doubt he'll want to introduce a tax or metering on that well.

In fairness on this point , it is wasting water and I think thats what he is afraid of.

However on the Light Bulb issue where they want to do away with the ordinary bulb, this is the biggest load of c*ap ever. The bulbs they want us to use CFL are c*ap. They take about 10 hours to reach full brightness, I really hate them. I still have an old 200 watt bulb in my bedroom I would love to show Gormley, its brilliant.

SoupyNorman

ro09 wrote: »

200 watt bulb in my bedroom I would love to show Gormley, its brilliant.

200watts, jeez. That sucker must give you a tan and burn your retinas if looked at directly?

sunnyside

dvpower wrote: »

People should be able to choose to source their own water is they want, or pay for the service that is provided by the councils.

Not possible to have your own water supply in a city estate though is it? I wouldn't want my own private water supply, at least with council supply they pay the cost of fixing burst pipes.

twinytwo

ro09 wrote: »

In fairness on this point , it is wasting water and I think thats what he is afraid of.

However on the Light Bulb issue where they want to do away with the ordinary bulb, this is the biggest load of c*ap ever. The bulbs they want us to use CFL are c*ap. They take about 10 hours to reach full brightness, I really hate them. I still have an old 200 watt bulb in my bedroom I would love to show Gormley, its brilliant.

plus the price is a joke... you can get 4/5 of the same bulbs in the uk for the same price as 1 here

ScumLord

ro09 wrote: »

In fairness on this point , it is wasting water and I think thats what he is afraid of.

So he told a flat out lie to get people to do what he wanted.

Saint_Mel

dvpower wrote: »

If I compare my current water service with the other services that I currently pay for (gas, electric, bin collection ...), it compares favourably.

If I switch on the light in the house, they come on ... if I turn on my heating, the house warms up ... it I turn the tap in the kitchen, nothing.
doesnt compare too favourably to me at the moment

NinjaTruncs

There was guy on the news saying that the pipes break due to ground movement, when the ground is freezing and thawing, if that is the case it shouldn't matter if the water is flowing or not in the pipes.

dvpower

sunnyside wrote: »

Not possible to have your own water supply in a city estate though is it? I wouldn't want my own private water supply, at least with council supply they pay the cost of fixing burst pipes.

Possible, but not practical. Same as many other utilities.
Anyway, just because most city dwellers don't pay directly for it, doesn't mean its free.

Saint_Mel wrote: »

If I switch on the light in the house, they come on ... if I turn on my heating, the house warms up ... it I turn the tap in the kitchen, nothing.
doesnt compare too favourably to me at the moment

That's what happens when people leave their taps running all night. Water is a limited resource. If we had to pay for it by usage, you might not be having the problem you have now.

monkeypants

NinjaTruncs wrote: »

There was guy on the news saying that the pipes break due to ground movement, when the ground is freezing and thawing, if that is the case it shouldn't matter if the water is flowing or not in the pipes.

I think it was a chap from Met Eireann said that. Makes sense too.

TheMoose

ScumLord wrote: »

So he told a flat out lie to get people to do what he wanted.

Well he has a bit of history, he also claims man is causing climate change.