Angola - Mali

JPA

http://forum.fm-view.com/topic/10912-i-admit-it/


Ouch, that is horrible. and hilarious

Vurnon San Benito

Utter stupidity.

Can you imagine how that guy is feeling now?

Nulty

:eek::pac::(:confused::mad::rolleyes:

Juwwi

all that risk for £44 less commision.

I'd say there is far worse cases out there tho from the match.

Vurnon San Benito

Can't stop thinking about this.
Lost over £4000.!

Juwwi

Doocey wrote: »

Can't stop thinking about this.
I Lost over £4000.!

Was it you :eek::eek::eek:

AdrianII

idiot if you ask me. Risk 4400e for 44e profit

as dellboy would say, "What a plonker"

Vurnon San Benito

robbie1977 wrote: »

It was me :eek::eek::eek:

It was you? :eek:

Headshot

this cant be real ?

if this is real it's one of the most idiot things iv seen in gambling for a long time

I hate to see people lose money but he deserves it

AdrianII

Headshot wrote: »

this cant be real ?

if this is real it's one of the most idiot things iv seen in gambling for a long time

I hate to see people lose money but he deserves it

a team at 4-0up with 10mins left, is a fairly good bet (percentage wise)
but stake amount vs odds was terrible if the unexpected happened.

which it did, if the story is true that lad could be suicidal.

In_tuition

JPA wrote: »

http://forum.fm-view.com/topic/10912-i-admit-it/


Ouch, that is horrible. and hilarious

I fail to find anything funny about it.

Poor etiquette to enjoy someone else's misfortune.

Juwwi

In_tuition wrote: »

I fail to find anything funny about it.

Poor etiquette to enjoy someone else's misfortune.

In all fairness it is a small bit funny.

In_tuition

robbie1977 wrote: »

In all fairness it is a small bit funny.

What fairness?

A young lad loses £4,400 and in all fairness it's funny - don't know what world you are living in pal, but in mine that's seen as an idiotic and selfish comment to make about someone who has suffered that misfortune.

I feel for the poor lad and I hope he learns from his mistake.

oconnon9

In_tuition wrote: »

What fairness?

A young lad loses £4,400 and in all fairness it's funny - don't know what world you are living in pal, but in mine that's seen as an idiotic and selfish comment to make about someone who has suffered that misfortune.

I feel for the poor lad and I hope he learns from his mistake.

His bet was idiotic and selfish. Its not nice 2 see anyone take a hit that big but it was a stupid bet. It's his own fault, simple as that

heavyballs

oconnon9 wrote: »

His bet was idiotic and selfish. Its not nice 2 see anyone take a hit that big but it was a stupid bet. It's his own fault, simple as that

+1
anyone who has that sort of cash in his/her account should be able to afford it
no sympathy at all for the goon
and if he just lost all his savings even better,

In_tuition

oconnon9 wrote: »

His bet was idiotic and selfish. Its not nice 2 see anyone take a hit that big but it was a stupid bet. It's his own fault, simple as that

Stick the point of my post and not singling out a part of it.

The part you single out is in relation to others finding the lads misfortune funny.

Make your own comments without disecting mine, for your personal usage please.

Juwwi

In_tuition wrote: »

What fairness?

A young lad loses £4,400 and in all fairness it's funny - don't know what world you are living in pal, but in mine that's seen as an idiotic and selfish comment to make about someone who has suffered that misfortune.

I feel for the poor lad and I hope he learns from his mistake.

He tried to win £44 with a risk of £4400.
He taught it was free money and money for nothing and then posted it on a forum looking for sympothy.

I'd bet that he has made that sort of bet before and will do again.
Stupidity is an understatement for his bet.

In_tuition

heavyballs wrote: »

+1
anyone who has that sort of cash in his/her account should be able to afford it
no sympathy at all for the goon
and if he just lost all his savings even better,

Undoubtedly the lad does this on a regualar basis and has been stung. I don't think anyone who makes that bet can afford to lose that amount, if they could then they wouldn't need to earn £44 on a football match.

At the end of the day it isn't funny.

In_tuition

robbie1977 wrote: »

He tried to win £44 with a risk of £4400.
He taught it was free money and money for nothing and then posted it on a forum looking for sympothy.

I'd bet that he has made that sort of bet before and will do again.
Stupidity is an understatement for his bet.

I agree mate.

oconnon9

In_tuition wrote: »

Stick the point of my post and not singling out a part of it.

The part you single out is in relation to others finding the lads misfortune funny.

Make your own comments without disecting mine, for your personal usage please.

I highlighted that phrase because i taut it was the perfect phrase 2 sum up his bet. I have no interest in dissecting your comments, you obviuosly misunderstood.

Juwwi

In_tuition wrote: »

At the end of the day it isn't funny.

I think this is a case when people say it was funny its like the guy falling on the rte news the other night and banging his head.

Most people laughed yet no 1 enjoyed seeing him fall like that.

Its sort of a reaction most people have even tho they mean no bad from it.

heavyballs

In_tuition wrote: »

Undoubtedly the lad does this on a regualar basis and has been stung. I don't think anyone who makes that bet can afford to lose that amount, if they could then they wouldn't need to earn £44 on a football match.

At the end of the day it isn't funny.

he didn't do the bet because he needed the €44,he did it because he thinks he's a big lad,i bet he reckoned it was 'free money',jesus if he needed that amount of cash would he not just withdraw from his account

The_Kew_Tour

I remember good few years ago a guy lost 125,000 on tennis match all to win 250 quid at the time.

aidan24326

The guy made a stupid mistake but I don't think it's funny.

As much as it was a dumbass bet, the chances of Mali coming back from 0-4 down with 15 mins to go were absolutely minsiscule. When the clock ticked into the 87th minute it was still 4-1, so to lose the bet from there was ridiculously unlucky. Hopefully he'll have learned a valuable lesson though. Regardless of what you stand to win, whether it's 44 pounds or 44 grand, you never bet more than you can reasonably afford to lose.

If anyone remembers the Tottenham-Man Utd game a few years back, when Spurs were 3 up at halftime and lost 5-3? One of the big bookies (cant rem which one) reportedly took an online bet at halftime of 16,000 pounds at 1/16 for Spurs to win. United got 5 in the second half. Ouch.

x in the city

stupid

end of... to win that much amount is just idiotic.

i reckon that was a fix,. 4 all, think of all the monies poor afrikans would make with that.

and corruption is rife in all aspects of life down there

Töpher

The same clown had it up on the Betfair forums yesterday, without his name blacked out! Whatever about the loss, that was quite amusing!

x in the city

"Hello young Jonathan. This is Mabi De Almeida the Angolan manager. I am very sorry to hear about your current situation. We here at the Angolan football association are both embarrassed and disgusted by the disastrous 12 minutes that evidently cost you a lot of your hard earned money. We are very happy to inform you that we are 100% committed to making this situation better. Thanks to the hard work of first team coach zizi makololooo and team doctor Kawabi Tuzububu we have come to an arrangement where we can compensate you.







Star Striker Manucho has verbally agreed to give you his most prized asset. A signed Hull city shirt from last season. Sadly Manucho has lost the shirt where he scored his only Hull goal against Fulham so he will donate his second most prized shirt (the shirt where he took a shot that was only 5 yards wide of the goal). We hope this helps you a little."





blimey....

blindpilot

How stupid must this guy feel now? I laughed when I read this cos it sounded too unbelieveable until I saw the slip :eek:. What a clown.

Verance

Sorry lads, but wasn't this a value bet? Surely if he placed this bet 1000 times it would lose less than ten times?? Think of the lucky people who got on at 100/1!

nice1franko

Spot on, Verance. In reality, this is happening way less than 1 in a 100 hundred times so it's a +EV bet in my book. Can anyone even remember a game where a side has come from 4-0 down to equal within the final 12-15 minutes??

Where he went wrong is: he put his entire bank on it. A silly -but not uncommon- mistake.

If he's a serial 101 backer with his entire bank then this was inevitable really but, still, I think he's getting more grief/ridicule than he deserves. Specially from his own, I'd expect it from non-gamblers obviously.

Nulty

Some stupid comments here tbh.

A) If you read the thread properly (or at all!) you would have found that the guy "did the sums wrong" and thought he was going to win GBP440. Yes it was stupid for all the reasons listed but having no sympathy only reflects badly on you and actually contributes little.

The odds of 1/100 are wrong (IMO). Out of the most recent 100 international matches that have had the score of 4-0 with 12 mins to go, I'd be very suprised to see a comeback. Having said that, it doesn't attempt to justify the bet but its a bet you could make with buckets of confidence. (Obviously not with ALL you money BUT!!...he technically thought he was getting odds of 1/10)

Nulty

robbie1977 wrote: »

I think this is a case when people say it was funny its like the guy falling on the rte news the other night and banging his head.

Most people laughed yet no 1 enjoyed seeing him fall like that.

Its sort of a reaction most people have even tho they mean no bad from it.

Where can I get a link for that?

EDIT:

Got it! (lazy)

youtube search: rte news fall

God thats funny

NiamhDunk

lads that game must surely be corrupt as f#ck.

here's another one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB-tXhIcTTY

and its not just outside of europe that this thing happens,wouldnt be surprised if this one was rigged either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLUxMRYJAso

Mad_Max

Does anyone know by chance what the odds were for a draw at the same time??

Dying to know, they'd have to be large enough.

In_tuition

Mad_Max wrote: »

Does anyone know by chance what the odds were for a draw at the same time??

Dying to know, they'd have to be large enough.

On betfair I'd expect it to be 1000?

nice1franko

Nulty wrote: »

he technically thought he was getting odds of 1/10)

Ah right. I only skimmed through the a few posts on the first page of the thread (cos it's huge) but in the OP he says:

I have a problem. I can't help it, 4-0 up in the 78th minute offering 1.01 (1% profit for 12 minutes work, in non-betting talk). Fukking bent africans...

and then a few posts down it seems a mate of his offers condolences with

Im actually ****ing shellshocked John, The amount of times we have talked about these 1.01 **** ups and you do this.
Need any help mate im here.

So I was under the impression he knew full well what he was doing. Maybe he'd started telling little white ones to to try and save face or something?

Anyway, let this be a lesson to all you kids out there....... don't play in African football markets!! :pac:

Mad_Max

In_tuition wrote: »

On betfair I'd expect it to be 1000?

So why didn't he take a tenner and make two bets for draw/lose.

Would have guaranteed 30odd quid on the win and windfall for loss/draw.

Someone please tell me it wasn't that simple

myflipflops

nice1franko wrote: »

Anyway, let this be a lesson to all you kids out there....... don't play in African football markets!! :pac:

NiamhDunk wrote: »

lads that game must surely be corrupt as f#ck.
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x in the city wrote: »

i reckon that was a fix,. 4 all, think of all the monies poor afrikans would make with that.

and corruption is rife in all aspects of life down there

There's not a chance in hell this was corrupt. We'd know all about it if it was.

African Nations Cup has turned into a good tournament with some of the world's best playing in it. To suggest corruption is to go straight to sterotyping people. This is Grade A football that's live on TV and very heavily monitored. If it was corrupt, Betfair would have already announced suspicious betting patterns and bookies the same.

Was there not a match in League 1 or Championship that went 4-0 at half time and then ended 4-4 a couple of weeks ago? I don't see anybody calling fix on that one which was a game of much lower profile and which wasn't on TV.

Akilduss

Mad_Max wrote: »

Does anyone know by chance what the odds were for a draw at the same time??

Dying to know, they'd have to be large enough.

It was 200/1 with Bet 365 with 10 minutes to go....

And the recent 4-4 draw was between Peterborough and Cardiff.

Browney7

myflipflops wrote: »

There's not a chance in hell this was corrupt. We'd know all about it if it was.

African Nations Cup has turned into a good tournament with some of the world's best playing in it. To suggest corruption is to go straight to sterotyping people. This is Grade A football that's live on TV and very heavily monitored. If it was corrupt, Betfair would have already announced suspicious betting patterns and bookies the same.

Was there not a match in League 1 or Championship that went 4-0 at half time and then ended 4-4 a couple of weeks ago? I don't see anybody calling fix on that one which was a game of much lower profile and which wasn't on TV.

Yeah there was. It was Cardiff and Peterborough. They were my only loser in five team accum I did. I was sick as a dog after.

Mad_Max

Akilduss wrote: »

It was 200/1 with Bet 365 with 10 minutes to go....

Nice one, cheers.

Blisterman

Mathmatically speaking, the odds of the team scoring 4 goals in that time, must be miniscule, so I'd imagine the odds were good in that regard. If he placed say 300 similar bets and won 299, he'd be making a healthy profit.

However, he didn't. He put all his eggs in one basket and bet money he couldn't afford to lose, which was foolish.

nice1franko

myflipflops wrote: »

Was there not a match in League 1 or Championship that went 4-0 at half time and then ended 4-4 a couple of weeks ago? I don't see anybody calling fix on that one which was a game of much lower profile and which wasn't on TV.

That's because they had the whole second half of the game to catch up and not just the last 12 minutes after being scoreless for the first 78!

There's a big difference.

myflipflops

nice1franko wrote: »

That's because they caught up in whole second half of the game - not just the last 12 minutes, as in this case. There's a BIG BIIIIIIIIIG difference.

Indeed, leaving it to the last 12 minutes makes it was LESS likely that it's a fix. Most fixes are 1-0, 2-0 wins where an odds against price gets incredibly heavily backed pre match and then strolls home quite easily. A good example would be Bury 2 - 0 win against Accrington Stanley on the last day of the league 2 seaons ago. Massive move for Bury and they win at a stroll with a penalty and a 2nd half goal. That was one of the last English games to have an investigation into it and players found guilty i think. This game had no big gamble and no reported suspicious betting either pre match or in running. Letting a 4-1 lead slip in 12 minutes on purpose would be pretty obvious to spot.

nice1franko

Yeah, ok, maybe you're right.

Regardless tho, the odds of a team coming back from 4-0 to level in the last 12 minutes of play are pretty slim. An awful lot slimmer than the 1/100 price he got which, IMO, still makes Calamity John's bet a good one (his bank roll management sucks though).

heavyballs

myflipflops wrote: »

This is Grade A football

please tell me you're joking,maybe 1 or 2 matches in the tourney are grade a as you put it
please go on and be one of the very few on this forum to admit they made a stupid comment

myflipflops

heavyballs wrote: »

please tell me you're joking,maybe 1 or 2 matches in the tourney are grade a as you put it
please go on and be one of the very few on this forum to admit they made a stupid comment

I'm not referring specifically to the qulaity of football on offer (although i think there's lots of good football played), i'm looking at it from a gambling perspective.

There is nearly 6 million traded on Betfair on this Ivory Coast game with a couple of minutes to play. That makes it Grade A in my book.

Juwwi

Highlights of the angola - mali match on eurosport now.
2nd half just starting

x in the city

robbie1977 wrote: »

Highlights of the angola - mali match on eurosport now.
2nd half just starting

fix...

how on earth could a team contrive to let in 4 goals in a few minutes near the end.

seems absolutely ridiculous.

fix fix fix..

and some afrikans several grand richer to boot

kingshankly

i know there is a lot of people who thought this chap was mad but i seriously think 1/100 was a terrific price with 12 minutes to go and 4 nil up.

heavyballs

myflipflops wrote: »

I'm not referring specifically to the qulaity of football on offer (although i think there's lots of good football played), i'm looking at it from a gambling perspective.

There is nearly 6 million traded on Betfair on this Ivory Coast game with a couple of minutes to play. That makes it Grade A in my book.

no,it just highlights the huge gambling epidemic there is in the world,just because it's on the tv doesn't make it grade A,it's pure sheite bar a couple of games,