Organ Donation

Bonito

How does everyone feel on this subject? Get a good aul fashioned debate going

TheMoose

Let the DO-GOODING begin.

Dave!

What's the debate?

TheMoose wrote: »

Let the DO-GOODING begin.

You're anti-blood donation and anti-organ donation... Are you just wierd? What's your deal?

MaybeLogic

I've no bother with it,so long as I'm dead.

jumpguy

I will do, too young atm.

Archeron

They can have everything except my eyes.

For some reason I cant explain, I want to keep them.

TheMoose

Dave! wrote: »

What's the debate?



You're anti-blood donation and anti-organ donation... Are you just wierd? What's your deal?

Well infact I'm a blood donor myself. I'm not an organ donor.

My point is this, people should decide for themselves, do as they see fit. Don't be making the call for others.

Bonito

Option 3 for myself

Praetorian Saighdiuir

MaybeLogic wrote: »

I've no bother with it,so long as I'm dead.

Yeah im the same. Take what you need when I dont need it.

pikachucheeks

I'll donate my organs.
I mean, I'm not going to need them when I'm dead! Might as well use them to benefit someone else, or save someone else's life.

In saying that, that's my personal choice. A person's body is their own, and if they feel they don't want to donate their organs, that's their decision.

Quality

Well I will donate my organs without a doubt, and that of my close family god forbid if anything ever happens to them.

Also would like to point out our fellow late boardsie, EireBhoy aka Gearoid Walsh whos organs were donated after he died tragically.
He has saved 6 lives.

Link

I cannot see the issue here, you are dead you hardly need the organs yourself?

civis_liberalis

http://tinyurl.com/yk222sf

Ya can't have mine for free, but I won't rip you off either

But on a more serious note... My aunt died before xmas and she had her organs donated. I really respect her for that.

lugha

Bonito wrote: »

Option 3 for myself

Me too. No arguments.

Captain_Generic

Dave! wrote: »

You're anti-blood donation and anti-organ donation... Are you just wierd? What's your deal?

He's only around because his family need the parts

TheMoose

Mr.S wrote: »

Mine. Stay away from what i own unless i give you permission.

You've got it.


I tell you something, if all those who are for this would ever get of their asses and get a card, the organ problem, if it does exist, would be solved.

Pushtrak

I'd donate your organs.

I think on reaching 18, a person should be given the choice to either opt in or opt out. But, should they opt out, they can not be recipients should they need organs. Why should they get organ replacements if they are going to be greedy?

(Oh, and I never gave my serious answer as to what I'd do. Well, not explicitly. Course I would.)

lugha

pikachucheeks wrote: »

A person's body is their own, and if they feel they don't want to donate their organs, that's their decision.

Problem is lots of folk won't be arsed going to the bother of getting a card. If they feel strongly enough about not doing it let them opt out.

BaconZombie

NecroCard FTW

pikachucheeks

lugha wrote: »

Problem is lots of folk won't be arsed going to the bother of getting a card. If they feel strongly enough about not doing it let them opt out.

Yeah. I agree that people should automatically be put down as opted in for donation, and if they wish to change that, they have to opt out, with the condition that they then cannot receive a donation themselves.

Pushtrak

*Awaits "But thats not fair!!!111!!"*

Bonito

Couldn't agree more with both of you! You can't have your cake and eat it too :rolleyes:

ashyle

Take it all! What use is it to me when I'm dead?

Captain_Generic

ashyle wrote: »

Take it all! What use is it to me when I'm dead?

You'll look a bit sparse for the zombie uprising

slipss

pikachucheeks wrote: »

Yeah. I agree that people should automatically be put down as opted in for donation, and if they wish to change that, they have to opt out, with the condition that they then cannot receive a donation themselves.

Be my opinion also. Presumed consent but if you opt out of donating it should mean you opt out of recieving aswell. Only fair.

El Weirdo

Archeron wrote: »

They can have everything except my eyes.

For some reason I cant explain, I want to keep them.

Karl?

Pushtrak

Captain_Generic wrote: »

You'll look a bit sparse for the zombie uprising

I would say you have proper inventory for what needs replacin'. Though that whole hunger thing would probably negate that form of usage.

ashyle

Captain_Generic wrote: »

You'll look a bit sparse for the zombie uprising

I plan on being a ghost, it's all gravy!

Captain_Generic

ashyle wrote: »

I plan on being a ghost, it's all gravy!

Smart move, one less zombie to kill with a frying pan

FouxDaFaFa

TheMoose wrote: »

I tell you something, if all those who are for this would ever get of their asses and get a card, the organ problem, if it does exist, would be solved.

It does. People wait years for transplants, particularly kidneys. That's a problem, imo.
And yes, I do agree that more people carrying donor cards or at least letting their family know their wishes would go a long way. But an opt-out system seems the way to go. Think of the money that could be saved on medical care for people on dialysis, etc if organs were more readily available.

Atavan-Halen

Yes I'd donate. Sure they're no use to me when I'm dead! I suppose I would donate to my family or friends while I was alive if they needed them.

I'm not sure if it should be made mandatory or auto-sign up though. Some people have issues with it and I don't think it would be fair to force them into doing something they're uncomfortable with.

DarrenMSP

Quality wrote: »

I cannot see the issue here, you are dead you hardly need the organs yourself?

Same here, your gonna be dead so why waste something that could be useful to others and save lives. Remember Reduce, Reuse, Recycle!

Captain_Generic

I'd donate a few organs as long as no one asked me where i got them

Cerocco

Just want to point out here, to the best of my knowledge you can carry a donor card but if your next of kin says no to organ donation it will not go ahead. People need to discuss this with the next of kin so that if the decision has to be made they know your wishes. I for one would donate everything

Joey the lips

They can have want they want from me. My heart is belongs to my wife and my soul to god. Everything else I do not need.

taram

I have a friend who had her entire life changed by getting a kidney transplant, she's like a new woman. I think people should be given an opt out scheme.

Cerocco

Cerocco wrote: »

Just want to point out here, to the best of my knowledge you can carry a donor card but if your next of kin says no to organ donation it will not go ahead. People need to discuss this with the next of kin so that if the decision has to be made they know your wishes. I for one would donate everything

This is true!

am I dejavuing or has this subject been done loads of times in the last while?

I agree with the opt out system. The idea of not being allowed to receive a transplant if you opt out though doesn't sit quite as easy with me. If you give a non donor a new kidney which saves their life, my guess would be that this person would now be a believer in organ donation and would therefor opt back in, their organs would now be useful in the event of an accident etc. That's not to say they should get first dibs on they kidney, but if they were compatible and there was noone else......

I'm probably not getting my point across very well but it's a complex issue.

Pushtrak

Deleted User wrote: »

The idea of not being allowed to receive a transplant if you opt out though doesn't sit quite as easy with me.

Greed doesn't sit right with me.

Pushtrak

Pushtrak wrote: »

Greed doesn't sit right with me.

Yeh, I knew I wouldn't get my point across properly!

Mike 1972

Because I travel across the border every now and again I have TWO organ cards. One for the Republic and one for the UK (Why the fup cant there be a European/International one)

Pushtrak wrote: »

I think on reaching 18, a person should be given the choice to either opt in or opt out. But, should they opt out, they can not be recipients should they need organs.

I wouldnt go that far however I would give priority to donors.

Oh and I have had mine from well before I was 18. I dont see why next of kin should have final say though. Theyre MY bloody organs.

amacachi

Deleted User wrote: »

This is true!

am I dejavuing or has this subject been done loads of times in the last while?

I agree with the opt out system. The idea of not being allowed to receive a transplant if you opt out though doesn't sit quite as easy with me. If you give a non donor a new kidney which saves their life, my guess would be that this person would now be a believer in organ donation and would therefor opt back in, their organs would now be useful in the event of an accident etc. That's not to say they should get first dibs on they kidney, but if they were compatible and there was noone else......

I'm probably not getting my point across very well but it's a complex issue.

Yeah, this thread has been done so many times recently.

An organ donor card is pointless as far as I'm concerned.

Pushtrak

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeh, I knew I wouldn't get my point across properly!

What it comes down to is saying "Oh, no, I want to keep my organs after I'm dead, but I'll take those should I need them." Greed. Is there a religion that explicitly is against removal of organs? Well, its probably also against getting new organs right? So, why should they be allowed to sway the religious hammer one way?

Mike 1972 wrote: »

I wouldnt go that far however I would give priority to donors.

I'd make the concession for private care. They are paying for it, after all. But public care? I can't see any reasonable defence there.

Pushtrak

Pushtrak wrote: »

What it comes down to is saying "Oh, no, I want to keep my organs after I'm dead, but I'll take those should I need them." Greed.

I'm not going to argue it with you because I pretty much agree.

But it would be beyond comprehension to dispose of perfectly good organs if the only suitable recipient was an opt outer. As I said, this person is surely going to agree to donate their organs now that they see how important it is.

Anyway, the chances of this happening are so so slim. If you were told you had lung cancer the first thing you would do is opt back in as you would realise what it meant!

ashyle

Are you saying that private care patient's organs shouldn't be given...?
A lot of religious (Jehovahs etc) don't allow transplants/donations actually. According to my rigourous ER and Grey's Anatomy watching.

Mike 1972

Pushtrak wrote: »

But public care? I can't see any reasonable defence there.

So if an organ was available and all the matching potential recipents were non-donors and the organ had a limited shelf/storage life you would just chuck it away ?

Bonito

amacachi wrote: »

Yeah, this thread has been done so many times recently.

An organ donor card is pointless as far as I'm concerned.

On the contrary, this type of thread has not been done recently

Granted yes there was a thread with a poll regarding mandatory organ donation and then there was another thread early last month asking if you were or were not an organ donor.

My thread on the other hand, has a poll regarding if you are or are not a donor and also in regards if you are or are not how do you feel about organ donation.

I checked before posting it, it is not a copy-cat thread but a different thread in itself entirely

Bonito

Bonito wrote: »

On the contrary, this type of thread has not been done recently

The polls may be different but the content of the threads are/will be exactly the same.

Pushtrak

Deleted User wrote: »

But it would be beyond comprehension to dispose of perfectly good organs if the only suitable recipient was an opt outer. As I said, this person is surely going to agree to donate their organs now that they see how important it is.

There wouldn't be any disposal. And why should a person be entertained for only being altruistic when it benefits them? I have no pity for someone who would only volunteer their organs post mortem in such a case.

ashyle wrote: »

Are you saying that private care patient's organs shouldn't be given...?

Honestly, ideally that would be how I'd like things. But I know thats hoping for too much. A more realistic outcome would be private care getting the service, not that I think they deserve it.

A lot of religious (Jehovahs etc) don't allow transplants/donations actually. According to my rigourous ER and Grey's Anatomy watching.

That pertains to both the giving and taking of organs on their behalf, correct? So, we are talking of a default position of opting out of both for religious reasons. That would be a correct assessment, no?

Pushtrak

Pushtrak wrote: »

There wouldn't be any disposal. And why should a person be entertained for only being altruistic when it benefits them? I have no pity for someone who would only volunteer their organs post mortem in such a case.

Why wouldn't there be any disposal?

taram

ashyle wrote: »

Are you saying that private care patient's organs shouldn't be given...?
A lot of religious (Jehovahs etc) don't allow transplants/donations actually. According to my rigourous ER and Grey's Anatomy watching.

If I remember rightly, they can accept it, once it is drained of blood, therefore suitable for acceptance by them. Can't think of any other religions that are against it, donating an organ is a very selfless act, even if dead.

Nobodys getting my organs, Especially some drunk who will probably destroy them again.
My Liver! Mine!

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Quality wrote: »

I cannot see the issue here, you are dead you hardly need the organs yourself?

Like most people, the same type of thinking has caused millions and millions of deaths... Think religion, think political stances etc etc

What I want to do with my body should be my business and nobody elses... What you think I should do with my body, lifeless or not, is none of your business. If I decide to keep my dead organs, then so be it. If I chose to have my organs donated to other people to improve their life etc etc

And this???

Originally Posted by Pushtrak View Post
I think on reaching 18, a person should be given the choice to either opt in or opt out. But, should they opt out, they can not be recipients should they need organs.

This is just laughable...