Scumbags = bullies !!

KTRIC

Why is it the general consensus in Dublin to put up and shut up when it comes to scumbags ??

I was walking home this evening and make the mistake of answering back some local scum having a party in their front yard. In the end I was made out to be the pr!ck.

Then when I told the parents about it I was told I shouldn't say anything.

These little ****es (these were middle aged too) just do what they want because no one challenges them. Surely if everyone stuck up for themselves then this problem would slowly disappear.

BTW, I'm not the Citizen :rolleyes:, just an average joe minding my own business and going about my life.

lord lucan

Most people are afraid not of a torrent of verbal abuse but more the possible knife or blood filled syringe that may be produced. Keep the head down and get on with things is my attitude. I don't care if that sounds cowardly,i'm into self preservation tbh.

If they say "are you getting smart" just quote some yeats or do algebra.
Long words also confuse them.
Works every time:pac:

Seriously, they are scum and have no place in society so just ignore them like they dont exist.

PopUp

I would have no trouble sticking up for myself. But I don't really get what you had to stick up for?

Why bother 'challenging' them? What were they doing that was so offensive to you, as you passed by and they were in their own front garden?

Seriously, they are scum and have no place in society so just ignore them like they dont exist.

+1 Almost always the most sensible option, unless you are in physical danger.

These little ****es (these were middle aged too) just do what they want because no one challenges them. Surely if everyone stuck up for themselves then this problem would slowly disappear.

Nope, it would have the opposite effect. These feckers thrive on drama. They are worse than teenage girls for it. They shout obnoxious things at people because they want to be challenged. They want a fight, physical or verbal. If everybody 'stuck up for themselves' it would only encourage them. And then everybody would be like them, getting into shouting matches on the public footpaths with people they barely knew - behaving, in other words, like scum. Far better to take the high road.

lightening

What exactly did they say to you?

KTRIC

Some good points there Popup

Masada

Ideally, A good smack in the chops will sort the little bastids.,

Walking away with your head down often spurs these eeijits on as they think they have the high ground and you are scared. they'll be happy to escalate it.

The fact that you did say something to them, and didnt get bashed for your troubles is kinda proof of how cowardly they usually are. If you didnt say anything they may have seen you as a more vunerable victim.,

Flamed Diving

Never argue with a fool, people will not be able to tell the difference.

DonkeyStyle \o/

KTRIC wrote: »

Surely if everyone stuck up for themselves then this problem would slowly disappear.

The problem is, people like that only become mouthy fúckers when they safely outnumber their target (and they have an audience)... so standing up for yourself, while being the 'right' thing to do, has a chance of working out quite badly for you if things escalate.

+1 for self preservation
But also +1 for being part of the problem

We need an option #3.

Darksaga87

Phase 1: Kill all scumbags.

Phase 2: ????

Phase 3: profit!!

D.R cowboy

Same thing happen to me and the guys coming from town a few weeks ago , A few scumbags were hanging around Temple Bar and followed us their was about 4 of them and three of us but we said we would keep walking but they continued and one shouted you southside **** i will cut your neck even tho he did not know where we lived so we shouted back you northside **** so one of the guys said **** this I'm not walking away so we all stood our ground and one of the scumbags came up and took a swing at one of the guys but missed and my mates a big rugby player and he decked him instead and left him on the ground and his scumbag friends ran away like girls and we all beat the head off the scumbag and I got 3 nice slaps in on him and my mate robbed his phone and threw it into the Liffey in front of him then we ran like hell in case the other guys came back with more scumbags

Stay in a gang and they are harmless, walk on your own and your asking for trouble

Darksaga87

Everyone feels like billy big bollix in a group.
I've often had run ins with gangs of scum,
find them on a 1 on 1 basis and they will beg for you
to stop. Although next time they are with the boyz
you see the hard man again. Tell them you know their
ma!! Saying you know thier da doesn't work, cause they usually
don't!

Dord

D.R cowboy wrote: »

Same thing happen to me and the guys coming from town a few weeks ago , A few scumbags were hanging around Temple Bar and followed us their was about 4 of them and three of us but we said we would keep walking but they continued and one shouted you southside **** i will cut your neck even tho he did not know where we lived so we shouted back you northside **** so one of the guys said **** this I'm not walking away so we all stood our ground and one of the scumbags came up and took a swing at one of the guys but missed and my mates a big rugby player and he decked him instead and left him on the ground and his scumbag friends ran away like girls and we all beat the head off the scumbag and I got 3 nice slaps in on him and my mate robbed his phone and threw it into the Liffey in front of him then we ran like hell in case the other guys came back with more scumbags

Stay in a gang and they are harmless, walk on your own and your asking for trouble

You and your friends were even worse than them. Seriously. Why stoop down to their level and act like bullies yourselves!?!

Kazooie

Dord wrote: »

You and your friends were even worse than them. Seriously. Why stoop down to their level and act like bullies yourselves!?!

Ah come on. Scumbags got exactly what was coming to them tbh.

Alanstrainor

Kazooie wrote: »

Ah come on. Scumbags got exactly what was coming to them tbh.

Yeah maybe up to the point when the guy defended himself, but

we all beat the head off the scumbag and I got 3 nice slaps in on him

after he had been knocked to the ground, now that is called being a scumbag. Cowards.

Dord

Kazooie wrote: »

Ah come on. Scumbags got exactly what was coming to them tbh.

So it was ok that a bit of verbal abuse ended up with one lad getting hopped on by three and his phone thrown in the liffey?

Now I see the need to protect yourself if you were attacked but according to yer mans post above they weren't attacked.

Masada

All i get from that story is,

2 gangs of knackers came together, the looser not only got the chops boxed in, but he got mugged aswell.,

D.R cowboy

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Yeah maybe up to the point when the guy defended himself, but after he had been knocked to the ground, now that is called being a scumbag. Cowards.

What are you on about calling me a coward, a coward would have walked away we stood and fought and he got what he desirve a few much kicks would not have gone a stray for luck maybe he would not do it again

A guy was caught robbing a car up the road the other night the gaurds gave him a bit of the hard hand of the law and we seen nothing;) Are you calling them cowards too

D.R cowboy

Dord wrote: »

So it was ok that a bit of verbal abuse ended up with one lad getting hopped on by three and his phone thrown in the liffey?

Now I see the need to protect yourself if you were attacked but according to yer mans post above they weren't attacked.

He took a swing at my mate , that's not very verbal to me , he messed with the wrong guy in a pink shirt that night the scumbag

pebbles21

D.R cowboy wrote: »

he messed with the wrong guy in a pink shirt that night the scumbag

I think he might have been provoked somehow

c0rk3r

Dord wrote: »

You and your friends were even worse than them. Seriously. Why stoop down to their level and act like bullies yourselves!?!

Those who are not willing to fight will always be subjugated by those who are

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c0rk3r wrote: »

Those who are not willing to fight will always be subjugated by those who are

Eh, bollocks they are.

'Subjugated'?? By some knackers? I don't think so. Let em shout 'southside ****' all they like (what, are your feelings hurt?). They are knackery looking scumbags. Jesus pity is all one can feel for gob****es like that.

My life and my self-esteem are decent enough not to get all bent out of shape because some scumbag has dropped out of society and wants some company in the underclass that thinks it's acceptable to scream, fight, and rob peoples' phones on the street. It isn't, and nothing they shout is going to convince me that it is.

dolliemix

D.R cowboy wrote: »

He took a swing at my mate , that's not very verbal to me , he messed with the wrong guy in a pink shirt that night the scumbag

Are you for real?

Dr_Phil

KTRIC wrote: »

Then when I told the parents about it I was told I shouldn't say anything.

I say you should come back with 2 Molotovs, throw them in the middle of the junkyard and calmly walk away. The only way.

maxxie

D.R cowboy wrote: »

Same thing happen to me and the guys coming from town a few weeks ago , A few scumbags were hanging around Temple Bar and followed us their was about 4 of them and three of us but we said we would keep walking but they continued and one shouted you southside **** i will cut your neck even tho he did not know where we lived so we shouted back you northside **** so one of the guys said **** this I'm not walking away so we all stood our ground and one of the scumbags came up and took a swing at one of the guys but missed and my mates a big rugby player and he decked him instead and left him on the ground and his scumbag friends ran away like girls and we all beat the head off the scumbag and I got 3 nice slaps in on him and my mate robbed his phone and threw it into the Liffey in front of him then we ran like hell in case the other guys came back with more scumbags

Stay in a gang and they are harmless, walk on your own and your asking for trouble

dunno who the bigger pussys are! not the first time posh boys gang up on one person and kick the **** out him!

D.R cowboy

Mr.S wrote: »

Seriously, you are worse then him. You and your friends are by far the bigger scumbags. The guy might have started it, but the fact that yous didn't walk away after the first punch or whatever and all beat him up AND mugged him(what was even the point of that?) just shows your a complete scumbag, what the fuck like?

You guys are cowards. The fact you that you ran away at the end proves it.

what are you on about you swine, the guy is a scumbag how cares about him he made the decision to take a swing at my mate and he paid the price full stop!

We threw his phone into the canal to show him what it is like to be on the opposite end of a mugging, and lose something

Its people like you who have the justice system ****ed up , with your slap on the wrist attitude, 'O he has human rights bull****
No wonder the crime rate is so high in Ireland your to soft beat them and beat them hard like in China thats the way to go.

Dr_Phil

Mr.S wrote: »

ugged and beat up a single guy. When there was no need for it.

They've just turned the situation 180 degrees. Can't see anything wrong with that.

Masada

If he wasn't out numbered, would you have been as quick to get your few slaps in?
why was your rugby mate not sufficient in fighting off the threat?

coz you lot just wanted to give someone a kickin, just like most of the scum out there. the only difference between you and him is nike/dubes and henry Lloyd stripey/Leinster Jersey.,

dolliemix

D.R cowboy wrote: »

what are you on about you swine, the guy is a scumbag how cares about him he made the decision to take a swing at my mate and he paid the price full stop!

We threw his phone into the canal to show him what it is like to be on the opposite end of a mugging, and lose something

Its people like you who have the justice system ****ed up , with your slap on the wrist attitude, 'O he has human rights bull****
No wonder the crime rate is so high in Ireland your to soft beat them and beat them hard like in China thats the way to go.

Ok just make sure you and your superhero mates don't wear your pink shirts when you're goin into the Joy

D.R cowboy

Mrs you way out of your league here the guy was a scumbag that's what scumbags do they rob people get over it and be lucky no scumbags have robbed you

WE gave him a jolly good trimming big deal, if your so concerned for his welfare look for him and may sure the he is alright and his scumbag rights have not been Violante

Anyway we could have saved innocent peoples lives by taking him out of action for a few days i'm proud of that

lightening

D.R cowboy wrote: »

WE gave him a jolly good trimming...

This HAS to be a piss take.

D.R cowboy wrote: »

Anyway we could have saved innocent peoples lives by taking him out of action for a few days i'm proud of that

:D:D

Hank_Jones

D.R cowboy wrote: »

What are you on about you swine? The guy is a scumbag, who cares about him? He made the decision to take a swing at my mate and he paid the price, full stop!

We threw his phone into the canal to show him what it is like to be on the opposite end of a mugging, and lose something.

It's people like you who have the justice system ****ed up , with your slap on the wrist attitude, 'O he has human rights bull****.
No wonder the crime rate is so high in Ireland your too soft, beat them and beat them hard, like in China, that's the way to go.

FYP

For somebody who probably had a good education, you really do have a horrible grasp of the english language.

As for beating the crap out of the guy...

You're a complete coward. Three guys beating up one little scanger, what a bunch of heroes...

And then to brag about it...
You're much worse than them, you should at least know better.

maxxie

D.R cowboy wrote: »

Mrs you way out of your league here the guy was a scumbag that's what scumbags do they rob people get over it and be lucky no scumbags have robbed you

WE gave him a jolly good trimming big deal, if your so concerned for his welfare look for him and may sure the he is alright and his scumbag rights have not been Violante

Anyway we could have saved innocent peoples lives by taking him out of action for a few days i'm proud of that

Im actually beggining to doubt if you are serious because of the victorian english you keep using :rolleyes:
If you are serious though, I know exactly what type you are! I work in a nightclub in town and I see your type every weekend..

D.R cowboy

I don't care what you all think my dad said i was right and praised us for not backing down to scum after that your opinion does count for much because most of you are scum anyway by the way you are all talking about protecting them

KTRIC

D.R cowboy wrote: »

I don't care what you all think my dad said i was right and praised us for not backing down to scum

I know my original post was to stand up to scum but ffs cop on to yourself.
:rolleyes:

dolliemix

D.R cowboy wrote: »

Mrs you way out of your league here the guy was a scumbag that's what scumbags do they rob people get over it and be lucky no scumbags have robbed you

WE gave him a jolly good trimming big deal, if your so concerned for his welfare look for him and may sure the he is alright and his scumbag rights have not been Violante

Anyway we could have saved innocent peoples lives by taking him out of action for a few days i'm proud of that

Were you talking to Mr.S or me here?

D.R cowboy

KTRIC wrote: »

I know my original post was to stand up to scum but ffs cop on to yourself.
:rolleyes:

whatever man

Darksaga87

I've fought off scumbgs before,usually when they see you can fight
they tend to leave. But I would never beat them to a pulp or take thier
phone. If that bloke has needed his phone for god knows what, an ambulance
or to call his family. I'm a person of karma, and i wouldn't like that coming back
on me. Eliminate the threat and move on. A lesson is hard learned.

utick

Mr.S wrote: »

These guys where hardly the victims?

from what i gather the other guy started the incident trying to provoke a fight, then he took the first swing of the altercation, then he got hi as.s beat, got what he deserved tbh

D.R cowboy

D.R cowboy wrote: »

Same thing happen to me and the guys coming from town a few weeks ago , A few scumbags were hanging around Temple Bar and followed us their was about 4 of them and three of us but we said we would keep walking but they continued and one shouted you southside **** i will cut your neck even tho he did not know where we lived so we shouted back you northside **** so one of the guys said **** this I'm not walking away so we all stood our ground and one of the scumbags came up and took a swing at one of the guys but missed and my mates a big rugby player and he decked him instead and left him on the ground and his scumbag friends ran away like girls and we all beat the head off the scumbag and I got 3 nice slaps in on him and my mate robbed his phone and threw it into the Liffey in front of him then we ran like hell in case the other guys came back with more scumbags

Stay in a gang and they are harmless, walk on your own and your asking for trouble

The most cowardly act I've read about in a long long time.

3 guys beat a fella on the ground and then mug him.

And you say they were scumbags? :rolleyes:

Ye should have been locked up for that.

filthymcnasty

tbh seems DR Cowboy and his blackrock crew;) turned the tables on a bunch of scum and kicked the sh1te out of them. no harm there. so one of the pricks had his phone chucked in the river, boo hoo

D.R cowboy

dolliemix wrote: »

Were you talking to Mr.S or me here?

I was talking to MR.S there,
Thanks for backing me up on my point
I honour up my slaps to those who walk away even tho they could take them one on one

hipster2009

All of ye seem to miss the point about who threw the first punch!!

I say well done lads.

julien05

this is soo pointless

utick

Mr.S wrote: »

Them?

Nope, they ganged up and kicked the ****e of one guy.

the guy who randomly threatened to stab them because they were from the southside? The guy who swung at them?

hipster2009

rarnes1 wrote: »

The most cowardly act I've read about in a long long time.

3 guys beat a fella on the ground and then mug him.

And you say they were scumbags? :rolleyes:

Ye should have been locked up for that.

What a bunch of crap
Scumbag got what he deserved!
Threw the first punch and picked the wrong guy! ha ha

dolliemix

D.R cowboy wrote: »

I was talking to MR.S there,
Thanks for backing me up on my point
I honour up my slaps to those who walk away even tho they could take them one on one

Eh dude......I'm so totally opposed to you, your Dad, your friends, your outlook and your inflated ego that I think you're trolling.

No support from me here. You and your friends could use your energy to do something useful.

harbottle

Name and shame is my motto. Post the little feckers address and we can go on mass and kick the ****e out of the little bastards.

Its time we stood up to anti social scumbags and to stop pussyfooting, and making out that pricks like this are doing nothing wrong. Well done D.R cowboy

D.R cowboy

DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote: »

Well from what I'm reading, they weren't the aggressors, and had they not stood up for themselves they would have been the victims.
This is how I read it...

Sounds like they were the unprovoked victims of verbal abuse and threatening behaviour including a death threat.
They responded with a verbal come-back, and the other group escalated it with:

Now that didn't work out so well for the guy, but if he was looking for a fight and mis-calculated the odds, well... tough... maybe he should have minded his own business instead of randomly dishing out death threats to people on the street.

Your right !!
Some people don't agree with what happened and some do. for those who do i would do it again if the incident occurred
Kill or be killed is my attitude towards those disengaged scum and trust me they will kill you if given half a chance just look at the news every night and see for yourself the victims

Hank_Jones

I have no problem with standing up to scumbags.

There's a big difference between standing up to them and three people kicking someone when they are on the ground.
That's bad form in my book.

Then stealing his phone, what is that about...

What if he needed to call an ambulance...

If anything they should have given him a few slaps and went on their way.

Three people beating up one, not exactly heroic.

harbottle

You thought a single guy who couldn't throw a punch

read his original post. it was 4 of them to start with:(