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Is it time to cut funding to the Societies?
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Denerick wrote:P.S- This spin you're coming out with is moderately impressive, but leave out the 'twatwaffle' comments. I know its painful after you worked so hard and licked such arse to get to such a cozy position in one of the societies, but do mind your manners.Boston wrote:You know nothing. I haven't been on a society committee in years.
Think that one might have been at me, Boston
Denerick, excluding positions that I've been fired from directly or indirectly (specifically for not being enough of a suck-up) I've been elected to two positions on committees in college ever. One of those was in the Hist and involved 5 people voting for me, which wouldn't be a huge amount of arse-licking even if most of them hadn't been personal friends. The other was in DUUFC, not a sports club known for its internal politicking or for caring very much at all about internal structures. I've only seen the position of captain contested twice in the last 5 years, let alone people caring much who's treasurer. See, when I make things personal and insult your ignorance or twatwafflery, I do it because your failings are pretty blatant. When you insult me back, you make sweeping assumptions about the kind of person I am and just further prove your own ignorance. Dig upwards, man.Denerick wrote:And you shouldn't take 3,000 + membership of the Hist as a ballpark, a rather cynical observation to make considering they usually offer huge freebies for freshers who join up over that week. (I am a member of both it and the Phil by the way, which instantly dashes your point)
Not what I said. Read better. Of the 3,000, yes, there's undoubtedly hundreds who only join for Freshers' Week freebies. That in and of itself isn't bad; the Hist makes Freshers' Week more fun for a whole lot of people. Beyond that, there's a huge chunk of the membership who'll come to maybe one event a year, but get a lot out of that event. I can name at least 8 events in a given year that will attract more than 200 people. It's almost certainly not the same 200 at each (I know people from my course who've come to one or two events yearly and left it at that), which means that even looking at just the big events and not the weekly debates, plenty of people are being served. That's before you even take into account the snooker rooms or conversation room. But this isn't even the issue; you'd keep funding for the Hist in your world.I don't see the contradiction in giving funding to sports clubs, because they are far more than some simple social outlet for the egomaniac. As for the opportunity cost of society rooms, yes, I'd agree, college could do something more profitable. But I'm not anti society persé, I just feel that its egregious that we should be expected to pay even some of their operating costs
Like Boston said, this is the crux of your argument. It's not about the "should I pay for stuff for other people?" thing - Boston gave you loads of examples of times we all pay for the good of some students, and your acknowledgement that sports clubs should exist at all sinks that idea. It's just about whether you think societies are "more than some simple social outlet for the egomaniac". Plenty of us do. You don't. You're more than entitled to that opinion, and good luck with it, but it's not a solid basis for proposing cutting funding to societies. Even if you don't understand the benefits, thousands of other students do, and most importantly, so do the people who make Trinity's financial decisions. College is about more than lectures. Subsidising non-academic activities to make them cheaper and more accessible is a good thing. End of argument.Fo Real wrote:You still havn't answered my question: What does the Afro-Carribean society actually do? I can only assume "black guy stuff"
I honestly don't know what they do, though I'm guessing it's more than you think. I can tell you from experience that the Japanese society offered classes in Japanese from beginner level, and also (if memory serves - it's been a few years) did random cultural events like origami nights to teach non-Japanese people more about Japan. You know, expanding people's cultural horizons a little? Not necessarily a bad thing. Probably worthy of whatever tiny amount of funding they require.0 -
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