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Superhero Films **News & Updates**
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07-01-2010 6:09pm#1Hi all, thought this would be a nice thread to have because with Thor, Captain America, Iron Man 2 and the Green Lantern all on the horizon, we could do with a thread where we can keep all news updates together. Here's the latest news;
http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=8954Sony Pictures Postpones Spider-Man 4
Variety has confirmed reports that Sony Pictures has indeed postponed production on Spider-Man 4 so that more work can be done on the script.
Gary Ross, David Lindsay-Abaire and James Vanderbilt previously wrote drafts of the screenplay, and the trade says that Alvin Sargent is now "retooling the story." Sargent worked on the scripts for both the second and third Spidey movies.
Back in December, SuperHeroHype was told by the studio that the production was not on hold but that they were simply on hiatus for the holidays and that production would resume in the new year. Obviously, that is not the case.
Sony still has the movie scheduled for a May 5, 2011 release (not May 6 or May 11 as some sites are reporting), but Variety adds "that date has become highly unlikely."
"We'll try, but I think making May is a real question," a source told the trade. "We will not start until we have it right. The feeling is we are not going to rush it to make the date."
http://www.superherohype.com/news/thornews.php?id=8957
Thor Snags May 6, 2011 Release Date!
With yesterday's announcement that Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 4 will not start production in time for its planned May 5, 2011 release, other studios are looking to grab some of those dates for their own tentpoles. Making that rumored delay official is the news that Marvel Studios and Paramount will be releasing Kenneth Branagh's Thor on Spider-Man's original release weekend, kicking off the summer on May 6, two weeks earlier than its original release plan.
According to Variety, Sony hasn't abandoned the date yet and still hopes to get Spider-Man 4 done in time, but Paramount has decided to not wait and see what Sony does before grabbing that date themselves. They suggest that if Sony decides to keep that date then Thor will move again, although it's doubtful they can get May 20 back again.
At this point, Sony hasn't announced a new release date for Spider-Man 4. July 4th that year has been held for Michael Bay's Transformers 3 followed two weeks later by the "Harry Potter" finale and then The First Avenger: Captain America, which hasn't even announced its cast yet, the following week. (Warner Bros.' Green Lantern has already grabbed June 17, potentially making it one of the busiest summers for comic book and superhero movies in some time.)
In related news, CineFOOLS reports that Thor will start filming this Friday!
Bad news for Spidey fans, it's hard to believe that it has gone through so many re-writes. There are rumblings too that Sony are once again interfering with the process of choosing villains for the film. However this time around I'm actually in Sony's corner on this one, Raimi's supposed picks for the villains are just uninspiring. I'd actually say the rumour is bollocks because seriously, c'mon,The Vulture and Vulturess? No-one is that dumb.
As for Thor, the good news just keeps coming for fans. Not only has Kenneth Branagh put together an impressive cast, but filming supposedly starts on Friday. It's a big, big film and perhaps the biggest obstacle in the way of Marvel Studio's plans for an Avengers film in 2012. If Thor is a success, then The Avengers will be absolutely huge.
Feel free to add your own news updates.
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thor seems wrong on so many levels and is the riskiest move by marvel so far as intergrating his mythos into the same universe as iron man, the hulk, captain america and co could make the whole lot seem ridiculous.
BUT..... depending on how its done it could be really good. think about it , is it really all that far away from something like clash of the titans? and im really looking forward to that one now
like i said intergrating him into the modern world will be the tough part, but if the guy ends up doing most of his stuff in asgard or the like you could play it as almost a secret parallel world type of thing where the majority of the world may not even know about it outside guys like fury. ive read a few thor stories way back in the eighties (the whole "surtwar" thing) and theres definetly the mythology and visually stunning backround for great villains there.
guess we'll find out when we here what some of the plot is all about.
still its a hell of a cast and they seem to be trying their damndest to do it right.
TBH captain america is the one im looking forward to. i know theres not even a cast yet but the brief scenes of tim roth fighting the hulk in the recent remake , repleate with make shift "shield", gave a good insight as to what to we could expect in a cap film from the combat point of view and i thought it was thrilling stuff. mixing that with a "saving private ryan" esthetic would be great.
doesnt hurt that the avengers film is meant to be out the same year as it within a matter of weeks IIRC .
By the way i heard rumours that theyre making a sequel to ghost rider too. apparently theyre going out of their way not to use the word "remake" but its set 8yrs after the first one and is meant to be darker. cage is still in it though.0 -
constitutionus wrote: »thor seems wrong on so many levels and is the riskiest move by marvel so far as intergrating his mythos into the same universe as iron man, the hulk, captain america and co could make the whole lot seem ridiculous.
BUT..... depending on how its done it could be really good. think about it , is it really all that far away from something like clash of the titans? and im really looking forward to that one now
like i said intergrating him into the modern world will be the tough part, but if the guy ends up doing most of his stuff in asgard or the like you could play it as almost a secret parallel world type of thing where the majority of the world may not even know about it outside guys like fury.
guess we'll find out when we here what some of the plot is all about.
still its a hell of a cast and they seem to be trying their damndest to do it right.
I'm worried about how he'll fit into the same universe as Iron Man too, but I was talking to a few people the other day who are avid fans of the Thor comics and they don't seem too worried. I asked them if they were worried about Thor looking ridiculous and sticking out like a sore thumb, their reasoning was that because he's a god he's meant to stick out like that. They'll probably go down the Ultimates route of treating Thor as being some kind of a nut job anyway, so it should somewhat disarm the audience if Stark and Co. are treating Thor like some kind of side show.
There was an alleged leak of the plot for Thor a few weeks back, apparently a fair bit of the film is set inMidgard (Earth for those not familiar with Thor).0 -
Hi all, thought this would be a nice thread to have because with Thor, Captain America, Iron Man 2 and the Green Lantern all on the horizon, we could do with a thread where we can keep all news updates together. Here's the latest news;
http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=8954
http://www.superherohype.com/news/thornews.php?id=8957
Bad news for Spidey fans, it's hard to believe that it has gone through so many re-writes. There are rumblings too that Sony are once again interfering with the process of choosing villains for the film. However this time around I'm actually in Sony's corner on this one, Raimi's supposed picks for the villains are just uninspiring. I'd actually say the rumour is bollocks because seriously, c'mon,The Vulture and Vulturess? No-one is that dumb.
As for Thor, the good news just keeps coming for fans. Not only has Kenneth Branagh put together an impressive cast, but filming supposedly starts on Friday. It's a big, big film and perhaps the biggest obstacle in the way of Marvel Studio's plans for an Avengers film in 2012. If Thor is a success, then The Avengers will be absolutely huge.
Feel free to add your own news updates.ah cool, i hope they can pull thor into the mainstream, that way my Randy bowen statue will rise in value, oh yes!!!!! i think it would be hard. watchmen and ghost rider did badly in my opinion for the same reason. Im a huge thor fan, but as I said, even if it delivers, as a hero, he's quite unfamiliar or at least to the general public as a BATMAN or superman, so this could be challenging. in a summer that will bring us PIRANHA 3D (elizabeth shue and kelly brook, with ving rhames) how hard could a hit be
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ah cool, i hope they can pull thor into the mainstream, that way my Randy bowen statue will rise in value, oh yes!!!!! i think it would be hard. watchmen and ghost rider did badly in my opinion for the same reason. Im a huge thor fan, but as I said, even if it delivers, as a hero, he's quite unfamiliar or at least to the general public as a BATMAN or superman, so this could be challenging. in a summer that will bring us PIRANHA 3D (elizabeth shue and kelly brook, with ving rhames) how hard could a hit be
It will be undoubtedly difficult. Iron Man managed to be a success but it's near impossible not be endeared by Downet Jr, plus the armour was just amazing. There's a lot of pressure on Hemsworth to make Thor work, he's barely said a word about playing the title character in Thor. However I've seen him in the Getaway, he wasn't in it that much but when he was he had a great commanding presence on screen. That's an important attribute for playing Thor.0 -
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PirateShampoo wrote: »Spider-Fail 4, Vulture main villian for the film.
That's true, I hope they compliment the Vulture with a good second villain, he can't carry a film on his own. It's fun reading the fanboy reaction because one half of the Vulture and the Vulturess rumours has come true. They're bricking it! 0 -
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I wouldn't get too into which portrayal of the Vulture they'll do. I'm sure Raimi will do whatever kind of villain he likes. This is the guy who took the macho Eddie Broc and cast.... Topher Grace
Exactly, and let's not forget that the Venom symbiote came about on the Beyonder's custom made planet during the Secret War series in the comics, so a rejigging of an origin story for a villain is hardly something new for Raimi.
Your mentioning of Topher Grace has just reminded me of how wrong he looked and acted as Eddie Brock.0 -
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It was meant to enhance aggression but just enhanced the dorkiness of the character instead. Jesus, that dance number, FFS! Even when he hit MJ it was by accident. It was just a train wreck of an attempt
Do you mean grinding his hips or the piany?
Which upped his sex appeal somehow.
A pal and I rank these Petardo moments up there with S-M 1's Superman shirt opening sequence while running down the street and S-M 2's removal of the mask while stopping the train. Luckily public transport was carrying 100% honest people who would never want to tell anybody about what he looks like that day.
Roll on S-M 4.
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Do you mean grinding his hips or the piany? Which upped his sex appeal somehow.
A pal and I rank these Petardo moments up there with S-M 1's Superman shirt opening sequence while running down the street and S-M 2's removal of the mask while stopping the train. Luckily public transport was carrying 100% honest people who would never want to tell anybody about what he looks like that day.
Roll on S-M 4.
Oh yeah, I forgot there were two dance numbers, just for the laugh here we go;
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Well in Venom's case he didn't even give him an origin story. He just kinda fell from the sky and went 'plop' down beside Peter. No reason as to why he specifically landed beside Spider-man. Was it pure fluke or something more sinister? The film doesn't even bother to try and answer this question. You'd think at some point Doc Connors might have wondered, "Hey, how many of these things are out there?" I'd like to think that Venom was a scout sent for something bigger in a follow up, but knowing Raimi's dislike for the character I won't hold my breath.
maybe I'm just nostalgiac, but the 90s cartoon gave Venom a pretty decent origin story (he stowed away on a space shuttle inside a precious mineral called Promethium X). Yeah, it's a bit sci-fi cliché, but the story worked. Those 3 or 4 episodes really showed a great charactr in Eddie Broc, while Peter's transition into an asshole/Venom was much better handled than in S-M3.
You are right, the cartoon version would have worked a lot better than what we got in Spidey 3.
I hated skinny wimpy Eddie Brock though. I much preferred the comic version where he is a man of deep faith, and a big freaking bodybuilder to go with it.
The storyline with him having a crisis of faith with him losing his job and wife could have worked, and then used the comic version of him, where the symbiote finds him at his lowest ebb.
Done right it could have set things up for a Carnage storyline. (yes I know it would not be done in a kid friendly version of Spidey and that Raimi hates the symbiotes but screw him, it is what I wanted)
Even if it had tied in, in some way with the Ultimates version of Venom with Peter's dad being involved in the Venom process, at least that way it could have hinted that it homed in on the Parker DNA in Spidey 3.0 -
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It's gonna be weird to see a reboot so soon. I just hope it's not an origin story. Hopefully they will do a sort of 'stand alone' film that just takes the main canon points and goes from there, like what they did with The Punisher and The Incredible Hulk.
LZ is right though. The franchise does need to be freshened up.
edit: forgot to say, great scoop Sleazus!
I'm skeptical. Of the super-hero(tm) franchises I think Spider-Man is the hardest concept to get wrong in live action movies but the reboots don't tend to be all that reliable.
If I didn't know X-Men: First Class was under Singer I'd say it reeks of direct-to-DVD status. Though it'll probably just be 110 minutes of James Marsden being kicked in the crotch. 0 -
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I think Disney and Marvel Studios would really have to make that financially attractive for Sony.
Coming soon: Spider-Man: Great Lakes Initiative.
Though Marvel spoofing itself/Spider-Man/X-Men with the GLI/GLA would make for a good feature as Deadpool should. But that's as likely to happen as the Exiles or X-Factor (Madrox ) TV series I'd like. 
I didn't know Joe Cornish was attached to Ant-Man aswell as Tintin. That should be interesting.0 -
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