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which SatNav app for Ireland?

  • 06-01-2010 2:36pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭


    I wouldn't get a lot of use from one, but if I have to go somewhere im not sure of, I'd rather have something a bit better that googlemaps.

    So, I wouldn't spend the money that the likes of Tom Tom and Navigon are asking....so instead I'm wondering if anyone has used Co Pilot Live, for UK and Ireland?

    Its half the price, but why? Is it crap?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭deep1


    cojomo2 wrote: »
    I wouldn't get a lot of use from one, but if I have to go somewhere im not sure of, I'd rather have something a bit better that googlemaps.

    So, I wouldn't spend the money that the likes of Tom Tom and Navigon are asking....so instead I'm wondering if anyone has used Co Pilot Live, for UK and Ireland?

    Its half the price, but why? Is it crap?

    Thanks


    I have used all 3 of them and actually find Co-pilot great and use it most of time.
    it's good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cojomo2


    deep1 wrote: »
    I have used all 3 of them and actually find Co-pilot great and use it most of time.
    it's good.

    great, is it obvious when using all three that the co pilot one is a much cheaper one? Do the tom tom/navigon apps have anything that justifies them being twice the price?

    What area of the country have you been using co-pilot in?


    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭deep1


    cojomo2 wrote: »
    great, is it obvious when using all three that the co pilot one is a much cheaper one? Do the tom tom/navigon apps have anything that justifies them being twice the price?

    What area of the country have you been using co-pilot in?


    Thanks
    No i think tom tom is bit buggy and maps are not updated, just read the review in the app itself.
    I have used Co-pilot in bray, M50, tallaght, blanchardstown, clondalkin and in city center and not once i got trouble, Maps seem to be updated but Red cow roundabout Co-pilot got confused once. that's all.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    The reviews on iTunes of Co Pilot are mostly good but a bunch of people seem to think the maps are crap unless you're in the UK.

    Anyone know how often they are updated??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    i tried the copilot maps recently. i will say this: i nearly wanted to throw the iphone out of the window. it was buggy, inaccurate and misleading. it made me do 2 circles and im not sure what it was at.

    tomtom - for me its still the best ive used and i will stick with it.

    it was a drive from dublin to dundalk - and in the middle i needed petrol. and it would not recognise anything in dundalk. very poor afai recall.

    i nearly ended up on the side of the road with no petrol


    on a side note that day a big bird decided to use my car as a landing site, while i was driving. that was scary hearing that big "bong" on top of your head!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭deep1


    Spipov wrote: »
    i tried the copilot maps recently. i will say this: i nearly wanted to throw the iphone out of the window. it was buggy, inaccurate and misleading. it made me do 2 circles and im not sure what it was at.

    tomtom - for me its still the best ive used and i will stick with it.

    it was a drive from dublin to dundalk - and in the middle i needed petrol. and it would not recognise anything in dundalk. very poor afai recall.

    i nearly ended up on the side of the road with no petrol


    on a side note that day a big bird decided to use my car as a landing site, while i was driving. that was scary hearing that big "bong" on top of your head!


    You could be right, in my opinion there is no such thing as perfect Navigation device, my cousin bought brand new expensive garmin and trip to Belfast was hell lot of trouble.
    so it all depends what part of country maps you will be using, Co-pilot hasn't given me any trouble in the above mentioned places so far.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    I'm using Navigon on the 3G. In-app control of iPod playback and auto-override of music. Overall very good, didn't have some roads around Galway County, but the map quality on the whole does seem very good. The only real complaint about this app is that the load time and UI response time can be atrocious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭AthAnRi


    I have co-pilot. Haven't really used it yet to be honest.

    Just wondering does the CoPilot app work with the tomtom cradle? i.e. the GPS enhancement feature of the tomtom cradle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭smiddyboy


    I just downloaded 'Ndrive UK & Ireland' a steal for only €13.99 at the moment.

    Only a few features of the higher priced apps are missing but the maps are up to date and does what i need it to. For a simple cheap Satnav software you can't go wrong!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,691 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Is the tom Tom cradle a good investment, does it make the experience better?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭eamon234


    smiddyboy wrote: »
    I just downloaded 'Ndrive UK & Ireland' a steal for only €13.99 at the moment.

    Only a few features of the higher priced apps are missing but the maps are up to date and does what i need it to. For a simple cheap Satnav software you can't go wrong!

    +1 been using it for a while now well worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭thund3rbird_


    have tried navigon. tomtom, co-pilot & igo

    the last 2 would be my preferred

    //makes note to self to try Ndrive ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭Elessar


    I found navigon excellent. I even went so far as to buy their official cradle and car charger kit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Pulse8


    Elessar wrote: »
    I found navigon excellent. .


    Ditto!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭Mister Gooey


    Is the tom Tom cradle a good investment, does it make the experience better?

    I use the Tom Tom cradle with their software. The cradle is pricey but it is well made, vastly improves the GPS signal (IMO), can be used as a hands-free phone kit and you can output your ipod music to your car stereo. The cradle works with most iphone sat-nav software apps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,366 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    smiddyboy wrote:
    I just downloaded 'Ndrive UK & Ireland' a steal for only €13.99 at the moment.

    Only a few features of the higher priced apps are missing but the maps are up to date and does what i need it to. For a simple cheap Satnav software you can't go wrong!
    Down to €5.99 now so figure it's worth a punt. My old Garmin died recently and given that even the most up-to-date maps for that were out of date, I'm assuming the n-drive will function similarly to that or any other sat nav I've used: as a rough guide to be taken with a pinch of salt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭fenris


    Navigon is okay for use in Ireland but a total waste outside of Ireland, gps not locking in navigon but okay in google maps etc. Navigon is missing a good few of the newer roads and is prone to giving conflicting instructions on screen and by voice! So for the price I would say that it is not worth the money and as it was useless when I tried to use it in both Germany and Italy (couldn't lock GPS, crazy directions (turn left off cliff etc.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭MuhammadUmar


    Have used tom-tom and copilot and prefer copilot.

    Reason is software is not sluggish as compared to tomtom and copilot uses navteq maps which cover Ireland better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    fenris wrote: »
    Navigon is okay for use in Ireland but a total waste outside of Ireland, gps not locking in navigon but okay in google maps etc. Navigon is missing a good few of the newer roads and is prone to giving conflicting instructions on screen and by voice! So for the price I would say that it is not worth the money and as it was useless when I tried to use it in both Germany and Italy (couldn't lock GPS, crazy directions (turn left off cliff etc.)


    I used Navigon in the U.K. recently and it worked flawlessly :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Hey all. Not to drag up and old thread but noticed Navigon seems to now be €25.99 unless I'm mistaken? The reviews for copilot are not great on the store but seem better online and on this thread. If copilot and navigon are both on offer which is better to get?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,826 ✭✭✭phill106


    I use copilot, but as i tend to know the areas I am driving around, tend to not have to rely on it!
    I do like it though, it seems to have all the recently constructed roads I drive on, Like the dual carriageway/motorway between shannon/ennis/galway.
    Also one thing i love, if you are driving in 2 seperate cars, with both of you having copilot, you can have them linked, so you can see each other on the map.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Pikasso


    Anyone noticed Ndrive Uk & Ireland has disappeared from the app store:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Soarer


    I use Tom Tom, and find it excellent.
    So much so that it has the new motorway section(s) on the Cork-Dublin road, and I don't think I've updated it since I got it a few months ago.

    Plus, it's funny to have someone give you directions in Arabic! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cojomo2


    I use NDrive , got it for 5.99 and find it excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Pikasso wrote: »
    Anyone noticed Ndrive Uk & Ireland has disappeared from the app store:eek:

    From Ndrive
    Dear valued customer,

    It has recently come to our attention that customers are experiencing difficulties with our iPhone navigation applications. Accordingly, NDrive acknowledges that our software listed in the Apple iTunes Store have been dissolved until further notice. We are currently working to address and improve the situation in an efficient manner. This issue has been assigned a maximum urgency level as we cannot inquire on the duration of our void from said markets. We are attentively listening and working hard to address all inquisitions submitted.

    At this moment, we kindly suggest that all questions and requests concerning NDrive's iTunes Store applications be forwarded to Apple’s Support Team.

    To contact Apple's iTunes Store Customer Service please Click Here: http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/contact.html?form=app_store&topic=App%20Store%20and%20iBooks&subtopic=Troubleshooting%20Applications

    We would like to sincerely thank you for your understanding and formally apologize for any inconvenience.
    Cumprimentos / Best Regards

    NDrive Support


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭keith_d99


    +1 for Navigon - best I have used and mutitasking version coming soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    keith_d99 wrote: »
    +1 for Navigon - best I have used and mutitasking version coming soon

    So worth it for €26? How much is it usually?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    So worth it for €26? How much is it usually?

    Normally it costs €60-€70 can't exactly remember.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Simon201


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Normally it costs €60-€70 can't exactly remember.

    Yeah Navigon for me, got it last week, excellent value at the discounted price - think it was around €60 before for the British Isles version. The interaction with google to find places not in it's own maps/database is real handy.

    Like any app but especially with the higher price of this kind of app you can share the app with anyone (up to a maximum of 5 I think) if you can trust them with your iTunes password.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭mackerski


    Nobody so far has mentioned Skobbler. It's a little experimental, but also dirt cheap.

    Advantage: It uses OpenStreetMap data, so it's the only map out there with all recent major roads up to date.

    Disadvantage: It uses OpenStreetMap, so there's plenty of white space on the map too. But you can fix that yourself, and if you're too lazy somebody else will, all just a matter of time.

    If you want one with commercial map data, just make sure you get Navteq (like Navigon use) rather than TeleAtlas (owned by Tom Tom). Anybody expressing satisfaction with Tom Tom maps has clearly been driving around different parts of the world than I have :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    mackerski wrote: »
    Nobody so far has mentioned Skobbler. It's a little experimental, but also dirt cheap.

    Advantage: It uses OpenStreetMap data, so it's the only map out there with all recent major roads up to date.

    Disadvantage: It uses OpenStreetMap, so there's plenty of white space on the map too. But you can fix that yourself, and if you're too lazy somebody else will, all just a matter of time.

    If you want one with commercial map data, just make sure you get Navteq (like Navigon use) rather than TeleAtlas (owned by Tom Tom). Anybody expressing satisfaction with Tom Tom maps has clearly been driving around different parts of the world than I have :confused:

    Downloaded Skobbler but it seems that it's not really an option for PAYG customers as you need to download the maps as you drive? I could be wrong but once I left an area with Wifi it didn't work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭mackerski


    Downloaded Skobbler but it seems that it's not really an option for PAYG customers as you need to download the maps as you drive? I could be wrong but once I left an area with Wifi it didn't work.

    Yes, fair point - Skobbler doesn't pre-download and requires a data connection. Perhaps it will some day, but it's conceived as social navigation and I think they want to do more online rather than less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Bought Navigon there today, 26e, so seems a steal. I've to navigate Belfast and Dublin over the next couple days, getting a car charger and holder, so we'll see how it fares.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Bought Navigon there today, 26e, so seems a steal. I've to navigate Belfast and Dublin over the next couple days, getting a car charger and holder, so we'll see how it fares.


    Drove from Laois to Belfast for the first time to get me an iP4.

    Nary a wrong turn, it was most excellent!:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    I hope you guys got it whiles it was on special offer.

    It's back to its original €69.99 price.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I hope you guys got it whiles it was on special offer.

    It's back to its original €69.99 price.

    :eek: Jaysus that was lucky. I was thinking yesterday "should I get it or wait a few days?" until I finally said ah fuck it and took the plunge. Glad I did now!

    Used it around city centre there today, did well apart from telling me to turn right to get near Fishamble Street - only thing is there was no right turn allowed! Luckily we found a way around it but I guess the map ain't that up to date!

    Also quite sluggish on my 3G but that's to be expected in fairness. Apart from that, absolute quality stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Simon201


    1.6.0 is out recently and they've reduced the price again to €26!
    Jeez wish they'd make up their minds on that price!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,106 ✭✭✭dar83


    Damn it, need a Satnav App and it's back up to €69.99. Bah. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,472 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    think I'll hang onto my N96 and garmin maps for a while yet...
    I have the iphone 4 but can't justify for out of date maps, crap directions etc..
    I wish Garmin would release an iphone app...I'm extremely happy with their satnav and it's got home on many occasions when I had to take arse end roads due to car crashes etc..
    If they released it on the iphone i'd buy it in a heartbeat...for now iphone for everything else and the n96 purely for satnav in the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭mackerski


    Sc@recrow wrote: »
    think I'll hang onto my N96 and garmin maps for a while yet...
    I have the iphone 4 but can't justify for out of date maps, crap directions etc..
    I wish Garmin would release an iphone app...I'm extremely happy with their satnav and it's got home on many occasions when I had to take arse end roads due to car crashes etc..
    If they released it on the iphone i'd buy it in a heartbeat...for now iphone for everything else and the n96 purely for satnav in the car.

    Garmin uses exactly the same commercial data sources (mostly Navteq, some Teleatlas) as the other main players. Their only differentiator is in making their own equipment, something that would be irrelevant in an iPhone app.

    If you want up-to-date maps, OpenStreetMap is the only way to get anything different, albeit at the current cost of poorer coverage off the beaten track. Skobbler, Roadee and a couple of other apps use OSM, lots more if you just want a map display but don't need navigation.


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