TNA Impact rating

Vince135792003

Source www.prowrestling.net

The early word is that TNA Impact drew a 1.5 rating for the full three-hour edition of Monday's show.

Powell's POV: We don't have the hourly numbers or quarter-hours, but hopefully that information will be available shortly. This is a great number for TNA considering that the average edition of Impact draws somewhere between a 0.9 on the low end and a 1.3 on the high end.

Meltzer said anything over a 1.2 would be acceptable so a 1.5 is definitely a positive.

We need to see the hourly break downs. I would imagine the last hour was their lowest rating.

However I think we'll be seeing more of TNA on Mondays in the future.

SlickRic

seriously.

well done TNA.

considering you can't promote worth a damn, 1.5 is very impressive.

Machismo Fan

That is a spectacular number for TNA.

flahavaj

Vince135792003 wrote: »

Source www.prowrestling.net




Meltzer said anything over a 1.2 would be acceptable so a 1.5 is definitely a positive.

We need to see the hourly break downs. I would imagine the last hour was their lowest rating.

However I think we'll be seeing more of TNA on Mondays in the future.

If this is accurate its excellent and way more than I thought.

Well done TNA.:eek:

belge boy

love it. their record on the same night as brett harts return and some american football game. congrats tna.

Vince135792003

SlickRic wrote: »

seriously.

well done TNA.

considering you can't promote worth a damn, 1.5 is very impressive.

That's true. The last week of promotion wasn't great. I felt the best they'd do is a 1.4 so to do a 1.5 is very good to me.

BREAKING NEWS:

- Raw did a 3.37 according to Wade Keller on his live podcast now. So TNA took a chunk out of them.

- TNA did their highest rating from 9.00 to 9.15 for Hogans debut (when Bret showed up on Raw) doing 2.9 million viewers according to Wade.


Please bear in mind Wade is on air and could have read the numbers wrong but if true there's plenty to talk about. It makes me feel vindicated in that I felt the WWE really rushed Bret's reappearence on RAW (he came out too quick and didn't last long enough).

flahavaj

Vince135792003 wrote: »

That's true. The last week of promotion wasn't great. I felt the best they'd do is a 1.4 so to do a 1.5 is very good to me.

BREAKING NEWS:

- Raw did a 3.37 according to Wade Keller on his live podcast now. So TNA took a chunk out of them.

- TNA did their highest rating from 9.00 to 9.15 for Hogans debut (when Bret showed up on Raw) doing 2.5 million viewers according to Wade.

3.3 is poor.

This is getting very very interesting.

belge boy

why why why tna are you not putting out a new show on thursday. they could have got like a 2.5 i'd say.

SlickRic

if that Raw rating is correct, then, good grief.

that is a hell of a platform for TNA to push on.

Bret's appearance was fine for the most part, but as Vince said, it was quite rushed. especially the apology.

also the end segment was sh*te, and i've a feeling Bret knew it too.

the sh*t thing about Raw's reported rating too is...

HHH will feel vindicated if rumours about him being anti-Bret storyline are true.

Vince135792003

PW Torch:

Last night's edition of TNA Impact drew a 1.50 rating and averaged 2.2 million viewers over the course of three hours to be TNA's most-watched Impact episode ever.

Impact peaked with 2.9 million viewers for the 9:00 to 9:15 p.m. EST quarter-hour with Hulk Hogan's debut opposite WWE Raw opening with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels.

TNA's previous high rating was a 1.33 rating and 1.97 million viewers on the April 2 Impact prior to WWE's WrestleMania weekend.

Caldwell's Analysis: Very good showing for TNA. We haven't seen Impact quarter-hour ratings yet, but we'll report those numbers with details on how the show flowed over the course of three hours.

The Hulkster (and some pals) delivers at least for 1 day anyway.

Machismo Fan

This is an epic success for TNA. For them to draw 2.9 million people head to head with Hart and Michaels is an enormous achievement. It'll be interesting to see what Raw did for that quarter hour.

Vince135792003

Machismo Fan wrote: »

That is a spectacular number for TNA.

I told you in a sitting on the fence kind of way to believe in the Hulkster!

belge boy

and the thing is most casuals didn't even know hardy would be there. as you all said on here that guy is so over so once his fans know where he is expect their ratings to rise. they're bigger than smackdown now imo.

SlickRic

Vince135792003 wrote: »

I told you in a sitting on the fence kind of way to believe in the Hulkster!

it's still very early days.

but maybe he does know what he's doing.

Machismo Fan

Vince135792003 wrote: »

I told you in a sitting on the fence kind of way to believe in the Hulkster!

I anticipated a 1.4 for TNA but I'm more than happy to be wrong. That Hogan quarter hour is huge, TNA have a ton of momentum at the moment, I just hope they don't do what they tend to do best.

Vince135792003

It'll be interesting to see what Raw did for that quarter hour.

I would say alot of people stuck with the Hogan debut and many missed the alot of the Hart segment that went only 15 minutes including his entrance.

I've said it over and over but I just felt that they could have handled Bret Hart's return alot better. I know they wanted to compete against TNA so they felt the need to throw him out at the start but I would have had Vince start the show and tease it out a bit more.

Raw seemed to peak in the first 15 minutes.

flahavaj

belge boy wrote: »

why why why tna are you not putting out a new show on thursday. they could have got like a 2.5 i'd say.

Don't think so, partly the high number is that Monday Night is a wrestling night, so more eyes watching in the first place.

Alvarez just confirmed the Impact rating on Twitter. He's in for a tough few days given his dire predictions all week.:pac:

chopperbyrne

Machismo Fan wrote: »

I anticipated a 1.4 for TNA but I'm more than happy to be wrong. That Hogan quarter hour is huge, TNA have a ton of momentum at the moment, I just hope they don't do what they tend to do best.

This is where their true challenge is. They have now significantly increased their roster and unless they trim the fat a lot of people will get lost in the shuffle and they can not afford to keep making terrible booking decisions.

I will (for the umpteenth time) give them five weeks or so to convince me to become a regular viewer, but I anticipate that it'll the same old, which is a huge shame.

flahavaj

Vince135792003 wrote: »

I would say alot of people stuck with the Hogan debut and many missed the alot of the Hart segment that went only 15 minutes including his entrance.

I've said it over and over but I just felt that they could have handled Bret Hart's return alot better. I know they wanted to compete against TNA so they felt the need to throw him out at the start but I would have had Vince start the show and tease it out a bit more.

Raw seemed to peak in the first 15 minutes.

Yup should've built to a climax. Even a midget to p*ss the fans off and build anticipation might have actually been a good idea in this case.

Machismo Fan

flahavaj wrote: »

Yup should've built to a climax. Even a midget to p*ss the fans off and build anticipation might have actually been a good idea in this case.

They should have at least built it up in the first hour and do it at the start of the second while still having Vince and Bret end the show. Putting it at the very start was ill-advised.

Vince135792003

flahavaj wrote: »

Yup should've built to a climax. Even a midget to p*ss the fans off and build anticipation might have actually been a good idea in this case.

I was very surprised when he came out just like that.

There are lots of things they could have done.

Have Vince come out and say Bret didn't have the guts to show up and out of fear people might believe him and switch off they could cut to a clip of Bret arriving or one of the Hart Dynasty saying he is on his way. Build it. Build it. Build it. Have clips of famous moments, or moments with him arguing with Vince or of wrestlers talking about him.

That's what I felt let down by last night. The build up to this wasn't very long as it was, about 2 weeks and even on the night they just threw him straight out there in a relatively short segment which was nice but could have meant so much more.

I'm not trying to criticise Bret either. I'm a huge fan of his. I'm more critical of how WWE handled it. They tried but to me they could have tried just a little harder.

SlickRic

flahavaj wrote: »

Yup should've built to a climax. Even a midget to p*ss the fans off and build anticipation might have actually been a good idea in this case.

that would've been awesome.

tease the lie.

then have Bret's music hit.

WWE played it very safe last night.

i suppose they had a right to. it was up to TNA to prove they could provide a challenge.

flahavaj

Vince135792003 wrote: »

I was very surprised when he came out just like that.

There are lots of things they could have done.

Have Vince come out and say Bret didn't have the guts to show up and out of fear people might believe him and switch off they could cut to a clip of Bret arriving or one of the Hart Dynasty saying he is on his way. Build it. Build it. Build it. Have clips of famous moments, or moments with him arguing with Vince or of wrestlers talking about him.

That's what I felt let down by last night. The build up to this wasn't very long as it was and even on the night they just put him straight out there in a relatively short segment.

F*ck it, Vince should've swalowed his pride and aired a 15 minute segment with clips of Wrestling with Shadows. You'd sh*t your pants if you knew they were coming face to face after the break having watched that.

rossie1977

i think we are missing the big picture here

hogans a bigger draw than bret hart, its always been that way, it was that way in 1996 and its that way in 2010, while we of the IWC still talk about the screwjob, fact remains casual fans don't give a sh*t, i suspect many think it was a work

people didn't switch over to raw when hogan was on, no matter what rubbish hogan spews, he will still draw fans

belge boy

qtr hour ratings

1.58
1.70
1.78
1.71
1.88
1.30
1.42
1.16
1.17
1.21
1.19
1.30

Vince135792003

rossie1977 wrote: »

i think we are missing the big picture here

Whether he is or he isn't I felt TNA did a much better job at debuting Hogan than WWE did with re-debuting Hart.

They hyped Hogan up for 2 months. They teased him appearing for about an hour on the TNA show with the clips of the limo that I loved. They built it and built it and the rating pattern bares it out.

Bret was announced a week ago and aside from a video package he was thrown out on Raw. No anticipation was built up whatsoever. If you went out for a cup of tea you would have missed half of it whereas with Hogan, they too kit nice and slow (by Impact standards anyway).

flahavaj

belge boy wrote: »

qtr hour ratings

1.58
1.70
1.78
1.71
1.88
1.30
1.42
1.16
1.17
1.21
1.19
1.30

What segments aired at the top of the second hour and drew the 1.1-ish ratings? Whoever got that is f*cked.

Machismo Fan

If TNA could have successfully promoted the main event in advance, I'd imagine that they could have broken 1.6 or 1.7. It's pretty clear that there was a large drop off after all the previously advertised matches were wrestled. If they managed to offer the hook for the main event earlier it could have been much better.

Machismo Fan

flahavaj wrote: »

What segments aired at the top pf the second hour an drew the 1.1-ish ratings? Whoever got that is f*cked.

I don't really think it's a matter of them not drawing but rather nothing was advertised so people tuned out.

Penn

Definite congratuwelldone to TNA. While I thought it was a terrible idea at first, I'd be really excited if TNA announced another Monday night show in a few months to see what could happen

Vince135792003

Machismo Fan wrote: »

It's pretty clear that there was a large drop off after all the previously advertised matches were wrestled.

The drop off basically happened when the Hogan debut finished. That was the main event for many people and once they saw it they flipped over to RAW.

Honestly I think 3 hours is just 2 long.

Headshot

one winner here

wrestling

competition brings the best out of people and im sure vince wont take this lying down and hogan knows he's onto somthing

A win win situation you and me

Machismo Fan

Vince135792003 wrote: »

The drop off basically happened when the Hogan debut finished. That was the main event for many people and once they saw it they flipped over to RAW.

While I agree that there wasn't the same interest post-Hogan, I still think that if they had advertised the Styles/Angle World title match before and throughout the show they would have had a much better chance of maintaining some of that audience.

flahavaj

Vince135792003 wrote: »

The drop off basically happened when the Hogan debut finished. That was the main event for many people and once they saw it they flipped over to RAW.

Honestly I think 3 hours is just 2 long.

Bad news is Hogan's gonna take this as he and he alone is the draw and place himself as the centre of the show from now on.:(

belge boy

Yes. Its weird, 6 months ago tna wasn't even on vince's radar i'll bet but one october an announcement was made that changed the next decade in wrestling. vince fears tna. he thought he had a monopoly on the wrestling industry and could just feed his fans **** but now they have to up their game. bye bye pg ****.

rossie1977

Headshot wrote: »

one winner here

wrestling

competition brings the best out of people and im sure vince wont take this lying down and hogan knows he's onto somthing

A win win situation you and me

i am just waiting for vince to start the huk hogan skits and perhaps repackage al snow as the extreme enigma and hope people don't recognize the difference between him and jeff hardy

belge boy

flahavaj wrote: »

Bad news is Hogan's gonna take this as he and he alone is the draw and place himself as the centre of the show from now on.:(

it shows though that quality wrestling isn't a draw, otherwise everyone would have been watching the angle vs styles match. i wish that had got better ratings as a star would have been born in that 20 minutes last night.

what can hogan do really? he kept going on about how awesome the talent in tna was.

flahavaj

belge boy wrote: »

Yes. Its weird, 6 months ago tna wasn't even on vince's radar i'll bet but one october an announcement was made that changed the next decade in wrestling. vince fears tna. he thought he had a monopoly on the wrestling industry and could just feed his fans **** but now they have to up their game. bye bye pg ****.

Calm down. TNA had a good night, thats it. The big fight now is to keep those viewers, the hard work has only just begun.

Vince135792003

flahavaj wrote: »

Bad news is Hogan's gonna take this as he and he alone is the draw and place himself as the centre of the show from now on.:(

Well if he draws, he draws. Not that I think TNA should over saturate their tv with him being every where. They'll have to be smart with it.

It's disappointing but expected that the last hour would be the lowest and more didn't get to see the Angle/AJ match.

I also think 3 hours was just too long. If it was a 2 hour show and straight after Hogan, came Angle versus Styles, there would still have been a drop off but they might have retained a portion more.

The news out of this rating is that TNA/Spike should be happy and TNA are probably gonna get more Monday specials. It should make things alot more interesting but it's a very long climb for them. This was a step forward though the biggest one since they got on Spike in 2005 in my opinion.

flahavaj

belge boy wrote: »

it shows though that quality wrestling isn't a draw, otherwise everyone would have been watching the angle vs styles match. i wish that had got better ratings as a star would have been born in that 20 minutes last night.

what can hogan do really? he kept going on about how awesome the talent in tna was.

Wrestling alone hasn't been a draw in decades. If it was ROH wouldn't have gotten only 8,000 buys for their PPV's.

Characters that fans can invest their emotions in is what draws.

rossie1977

belge boy wrote: »

Yes. Its weird, 6 months ago tna wasn't even on vince's radar

so why then did wwe just happen to hold their biggest event of the year in a run-down shack of a stadium in the middle of ghetto central which just happened to be in the home of tna

vince has been in this business longer than most of us have been alive, he is very aware of tna

flahavaj

Vince135792003 wrote: »

Well if he draws, he draws. Not that I think TNA should over saturate their tv with him being every where. They'll have to be smart with it.

It's disappointing but expected that the last hour would be the lowest and more didn't get to see the Angle/AJ match.

I also think 3 hours was just too long. If it was a 2 hour show and straight after Hogan, came Angle versus Styles, there would still have been a drop off but they might have retained a portion more.

You know Hogan and what he's like though, it'll be hard for him to to restrain himself from plastering himself all over every segment.

waltersobchak

Raw with Bret Hart getting a 3.3 :eek::eek::eek::eek: Im in shock..

Vince135792003

The rating I gave for Raw (source Wade Kellers radio show) has not come online anywhere else yet so maybe we/I should hold fire on ranting about how badly Raw was structured.

The Observer update:

-- Impact last night did a 1.5 rating and 2.2 million viewers. We don't have a rating for Raw yet but the show averaged 5.6 million viewers over the two hours, so the rating will be up quite a bit from recent weeks.

flahavaj

Vince135792003 wrote: »

The rating I gave for Raw (source Wade Kellers radio show) has not come online anywhere else yet so maybe we/I should hold fire on ranting about how badly Raw was structured.

The Observer update:

Aye apparently those figures probably translate to about a 3.8. Which is also reasonably good.

Machismo Fan

Looks like competition either created new fans or much more likely pulled a lot of fans out of the rafters.

flahavaj

Machismo Fan wrote: »

Looks like competition either created new fans or much more likely pulled a lot of fans out of the rafters.

Given that both shows were built around returning stars from a decade or more ago I'd put money on it being former fans being drawn back in to be honest.

belge boy

wwe still has the more loyal fans----kids.

belge boy

1.58 - Intro + Steel Asylum match
1.70 - Jeff Hardy appears + ODB Vs. Tara
1.78 - Lashley/Kristal promo, Beautiful People backstage
1.71 - Hall/Waltman, Limo shots, Hulk Hogan arrives

1.88 - Hulk Hogan inring promo with the gang,
1.30 - Awesome Kong/Hamada Vs. Wilde/Sarita
1.42 - Beautiful People/Val Venis, Morgan/Hernandez Vs. Stevie/Raven
1.16 - Dinero Vs. Desmond Wolfe, AJ interview,

1.17 - Jeff Jarrett inring promo,
1.21 - Samoa Joe Vs. Abyss, a lot of backstage segments
1.19 - Nasty Boys trash locker room, Start of AJ Styles Vs. Kurt Angle
1.30 - AJ Styles Vs. Kurt Angle continues, NWO beatdown on Foley



bye bye any push for wolfe and dinero.

waltersobchak

belge boy wrote: »

wwe still has the more loyal fans----kids.

The 18-35 male demographic is huge in the states

SlickRic

5.6m viewers (a 3.8) for Raw would be very good.

the best part is, it'd prove HHH wrong.

(again, if rumours are to be believed)