Plugins Day ....

PaulBrewer

As some of you may be aware we've recently started dealing seriously in Plug-Ins.

We've added Waves, URS, Softube, TC, SSL, Drumagog, Antares recently, with others being added soon.

With that in mind I'm thinking of doing a Plug-In Day with an experienced engineer or two demonstrating how they uses various plug-ins and why.

Hopefully we can do it in a City Centre Studio.


Any ideas on how you guys/gals might like this presented ?

Paul, Audio Warehouse.

SeanHurley

This is a great idea and would love to go to such an event.

I think it would be cool if you could get some head to head testing going on between similar plugs e.g. the waves ssl v urs v ssl duende plugs.

I would also be very interested from a learning point of view to see experienced guys using plugs in day to day problems/jobs - what plugs they reach for, why and how they use them.

PaulBrewer

SeanHurley wrote: »

I think it would be cool if you could get some head to head testing going on between similar plugs e.g. the waves ssl v urs v ssl duende plugs.

.

Yes I was thinking of something like that ok.

I was also thinking of doing a comparison with something like a Hardware 1176. There are lots of Plugins based on it so it would be interesting to hear a comparison.

SeanHurley

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Yes I was thinking of something like that ok.

I was also thinking of doing a comparison with something like a Hardware 1176. There are lots of Plugins based on it so it would be interesting to hear a comparison.

Yes maybe some of the X-Rack stuff against the waves, duende, urs stuff. Excellent stuff.

PaulBrewer

SeanHurley wrote: »

Yes maybe some of the X-Rack stuff against the waves, duende, urs stuff. Excellent stuff.

Yup that's doable too.

DIRTY69

Sounds interesting.

alan kelly

great idea.. couldnt make it to the last open day paul put together in tipp but hopefully will bw around for this

danjokill

Great idea ... i'm in !

PaulBrewer

Cool ... one of the guys from Softube will definitely be over. I'm hoping to get others too.

Des Claypool

this sounds like a fantastic idea

JJV

+1. Sounds like a great idea.

Would it be possible on the day to explore the idea of using different compressor models for colour rather than simply dynamic control? From what I read, it seems a lot of producers are using volume automation to make vocals etc "sit" in the mix & are using compressors more for effect or for altering transients on drums etc?

www.jjvernon.com

Brown

Very interested. Agree with the idea to compare plugins (such as the plethora of SSL plugs). Maybe also look at successful combinations of plugins too, Maybe a specific part of the session on plugin combos on the stereo buss...

PaulBrewer

I think any of those things are doable on the day with the flick of a virtual switch ....

The main problem now is convincing one of the hot engineer guys to do a demo for me !

PaulBrewer

The Very Talented Phil Hayes has agreed to help us on our Plug-Ins day.

Phil, as you may know, recently recorded and mixed Bell X1's album and mixed the latest Jerry Fish album too.

I'm hoping some of the very talented Boards guys (no sit down I'LL be the judge of that !) will row in too.

Details as they appear ....

henessjon

just give a bit of notice

old gregg

tres cool Paul. I'm in and thanks.

PaulBrewer

How's about Thursday 18th of February in Dubalin Town ?

I'll half inch a Studio and let you know.

Richard 'Ricquie' Palmer from SSL will be there with Duende and Plugins.

I should have a guy from Softube and am inviting guys from URS, Waves, TC, SPL and anyone else I can find.

SeanHurley

Sounds good dude.

alan kelly

Sounds great.. Do i need to bring the gold card:D

Aridstarling

Sweet. Dude. Sweet.

PaulBrewer

Tuesday the 16th it is ... not Thursday.

One of the UK guys will represent Drumagog and Antares which should be interesting.

TC can't make it but promise some deals on the day which is always good.

PaulBrewer

I should have news on Tuesday about what I hope will be a fabulous venue for the Plug-Ins day....

PaulBrewer

Great News !

Our Plugins day will be in Studio 1 Windmill Lane.

Tony Perrey and his team gave me a great welcome this afternoon and we chewed much Audio related fat .


Having such an venerable venue is great and as well as being technically ideally suited to what we want to do it has heaps of room.


It's shaping up to be an exciting event.

PaulBrewer

I just heard Eventide are on board now too


http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/PlugIns.aspx


I've not heard of any of their Plug-Ins yet but if they're on par with their Hardware they'll be very good !

PaulBrewer

Soundtoys, GRM and Audioease are now on board too !

old gregg

flippin' brilliant Paul

dav nagle

Great idea Paul, may I shine your shoes? Bit of spit and polish my good sir??

PaulBrewer

dav nagle wrote: »

Great idea Paul, may I shine your shoes? Bit of spit and polish my good sir??

Yes please ...

PaulBrewer

Steve Helm will be over with Demos of BFD2 and Synth Squad.

PaulBrewer

JJV wrote: »

+1. Sounds like a great idea.

Would it be possible on the day to explore the idea of using different compressor models for colour rather than simply dynamic control? From what I read, it seems a lot of producers are using volume automation to make vocals etc "sit" in the mix & are using compressors more for effect or for altering transients on drums etc?

www.jjvernon.com

Indeed -

I think Waves Vocal Rider will get guys thinking that way ok. URS Comp plugins are very much that way inclined too having a strong sonic personality.
The Softube Tubetech comp also has a strong musical sound to it , even when the gain reduction meter is still.
Similarly the SPL Transient designer is a big sound shaper.

You know how these events run JJ - the attendees decide how things go. I think there will be enough expertise in attendance to answer and hopefully demonstrate the answer to any question.

PaulBrewer

Drop me a line via -

www.AudioWarehouse.ie

just to let me know likely numbers , Cheers.

SeanHurley

Paul was just wondering will Drummagog 5 be on display?

PaulBrewer

I've just asked and will let you know as soon as I do...

PaulBrewer

Yes - Drumagog 5 will be there ok !

SeanHurley

Great, the day is shaping up to be whopper.

Not so whopper for credit card maybe.:eek:

PaulBrewer

http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=62&tab=181

Fxpansion will be represented with BFD plus Synth Squad which looks very impressive !

Have a listen to the Demos - they sound good to me.

DamagedTrax

balls. cant make this as im up in the engine room on a session.

but you'll have great fun in windmill 1 lads..

just make sure to give tony et all a hard time :pac:

henessjon

0% interest monthly installments suits me

dav nagle

Will they be selling plugins there like tinkers in a flee market? Ok I am chancing my arm now.

PaulBrewer

Looks like the numbers are going to be pretty good Tuesday - I think we're going to have some fun and, hopefully, learn loads.

I'm no Plug-ins expert myself so I'm looking forward to learning how guys use them .... and abuse them;)

PaulBrewer

I'm hoping there will be a couple of nice surprises on Tuesday in Windmill.

Directions on how to get there , here -

http://www.windmilllanerecording.com/

We'll be rocking from 11am but if you want to muck in with set-up etc we'll probably be there from 9 am.

I really think I'm going to learn an awful lot - I hope you do too !

www.AudioWarehouse.ie

Aridstarling

I'll be there, with company, hopefully not too long after 11. Its my housemate's 21st the night before so I won't make a promise on the time! Can't wait.

PaulBrewer

Good Stuff Arid.

PaulBrewer

I've had over 30 replies now, so I'm pretty confident we'll have a right old day.

As well as just listening to the Plug-Ins I'll be interested to hear how guys do complex routing and the possible issues that might raise ITB.

Richard from SSL will probably kick off the day in his own inimitable fashion and Gawd knows what else will happen !

henessjon

whens kick off isit a running show repeating as and when required or we sit in the corner put our hands up Please sir!!

alan kelly

Anyone know what time you guys finish. Cant get off work:mad:. Suppose i shouldnt complain since im lucky to have a job but i might be able to get out early.. Cheers..

Des Claypool

i hope to attend if thats ok, sounds like a lot of fun!

PaulBrewer

It's an 11am (ish) start and we intend to go on til we get fed up !
Pop around at any time that suits. we'll keep the whole thing informal as always and hope that guys will come to contribute ideas as well as just observe.

See you all tomorrow!

PaulBrewer

Thanks to all who took the trouble to come and see us today.
The Unofficial Head Count was 62, so that's about 124 ears.

Thanks also to Engineer Phil Hayes who did sterling work all day including bringing a Bell X 1 track for us to use.

Thanks too to the company reps.

Lastly thanks to Windmill Lane Studio and their fabulous staff.


We had a couple of techy issues which wasted some time but overall it was a very productive day.

SeanHurley

Paul,

Thanks again for arranging a very informative day. Thanks also to Phil, and all the Pulse/Windmill gang for allowing me nose around and ask questions.

So when is the next one?

PaulBrewer

SeanHurley wrote: »

Paul,

Thanks again for arranging a very informative day. Thanks also to Phil, and all the Pulse/Windmill gang for allowing me nose around and ask questions.

So when is the next one?

Tomorrow ....