My tips

semiprogambler

My bets for today

Avenueandalleyways 305 kemp:) Won 11/4 (got 7/2 ep)
The hardy man 325 plumpton
Maslak 335 kemp ew
Timeteam 405 kemp

semiprogambler

Aflaam 155 ew 9/1:)3rd
Greyfriarschorista 305 10/3 2nd
Laylas Lad 505 10/1 ew
Fujin Dancer 535 5/4 2nd


My lay of the day

Blue Lyric 505 @ 2.26:):) u/p

semiprogambler

Sonhador 325 kemp 8/1 ew 3rd:)
Rubenstar 310 ling 4/1 WON:)

Lay of the day

Plum Pudding 240 ling (2.88):):) U/P

POINTBREAK

semiprogambler wrote: »

My bets for today

Avenueandalleyways 305 kemp:) Won 11/4 (got 7/2 ep)
The hardy man 325 plumpton
Maslak 335 kemp ew
Timeteam 405 kemp

Was this one winner and 3 losers?

I make you up about 6 points on 13 bets including 2 lays .Is that right?

semiprogambler

POINTBREAK wrote: »

Was this one winner and 3 losers? Yes

I make you up about 6 points on 13 bets including 2 lays .Is that right?

That`s right Pointbreakl

semiprogambler

Brazilian Brush 120s 2/1 2nd
Black Falcon 150s 13/2
Ravi River 250s 7/1 ew
Love Delta 350 (3pts win) 6/4:)

Lay of the day

Inside Story 150 s 3.9:):)

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semiprogambler wrote: »

Brazilian Brush 120s 2/1 2nd
Black Falcon 150s 13/2
Ravi River 250s 7/1 ew
Love Delta 350 (3pts win) 6/4

Lay of the day

Inside Story 150 s 3.9:):)

I reckon that makes you 11pts ahead overall with one bet to come.
Thats pretty good if you can keep it up over say 3 months or so.

semiprogambler

POINTBREAK wrote: »

I reckon that makes you 11pts ahead overall with one bet to come.
Thats pretty good if you can keep it up over say 3 months or so.

Been profitable for years as an average punter! Hoping this year Semipro advances to PRO:):)

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semiprogambler wrote: »

Been profitable for years as an average punter! Hoping this year Semipro advances to PRO:):)

Good luck with that. Your tips are doing well at the minute. Why dont you show your record in the same format that I do with Pricewise. It would be interesting to keep track. 13 points profit at sp is better than Pricewise Extra weekday tipsters on a wins to bets ratio.

essexman

semiprogambler wrote: »

Been profitable for years as an average punter! Hoping this year Semipro advances to PRO:):)

Followed your link over here from the pricewise thread, thought you said don't give up the day job ? Oh you mean doing pricewise, I see. You didn't nick Black Falcon off him did you

semiprogambler

Diapason 130w 5/6 2pts:):)
Pomeroy 230w 5/2
Lord of the reins 245k 5/1 ew:)
Greystoke Prince 515k 4/1

Lucky 15@ paddypower returns £495 min

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semiprogambler wrote: »

Diapason 130w 5/6 2pts
Pomeroy 230w 5/2
Lord of the reins 245k 5/1 ew
Greystoke Prince 515k 4/1

Lucky 15@ paddypower returns £495 min

I reckon you lose about half a point today.... still 12.5 points Up

semiprogambler

Stash 1250 s 9/2 3rd
Mary Helen 205 l 5/2 2nd

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semiprogambler wrote: »

Stash 1250 s 9/2 3rd
Mary Helen 205 l 5/2 2nd

10.5 Points up.

semiprogambler

Grudge 1250s 2/1
Noble Jack 1430l 13/8 2pts Won:)

semiprogambler

Total impact 145L 5/2 won:)
Obe gold 145s 5/2
Elusive warrior 345s 9/4 3rd
Muktasb 450w 2/1

semiprogambler

celian 225 hunt 11/4 Won
Nightboat to cairo 1245 hunt 10/1 ew

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semiprogambler wrote: »

celian 225 hunt 11/4 Won
Nightboat to cairo 1245 hunt 10/1 ew

Plus 12 to the nearest point?

semiprogambler

POINTBREAK wrote: »

Plus 12 to the nearest point?

Yes that`s what i make it PB!

semiprogambler

Son of monsieur 340 wolvo 15/2 ew
Lord crewe 355 ffos 6/1 ew
Peak district 410 wolvo 4/1

essexman

well done ( i must come here more often)

kingshankly

Just an observation on your selections most of them have been well supported in the market prior to you putting them up, are you actually fancying theese horse of just putting up market movers

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semiprogambler wrote: »

Son of monsieur 340 wolvo 15/2 ew
Lord crewe 355 ffos 6/1 ew
Peak district 410 wolvo 4/1

7/1 ew winner gives you a 5.4 point profit on the day,
Running total = + 17.4 at SP.

Good going. Keep it up

semiprogambler

kingshankly wrote: »

Just an observation on your selections most of them have been well supported in the market prior to you putting them up, are you actually fancying theese horse of just putting up market movers

Hi Mate,

My selections are a bit of everything really! Fancies, form selections, market movers, systems a bish boff of all techniques resulting from 20 years off mainly losing and the last 3 years of being profitable!

Hope this info helps?

TheMilkyPirate

Hey semipro, Just a suggestion maybe you could format your posts a little better there a bit hard to read.

Something like:

Sandown 1.45 - (selection name + price) = (where he finished)


Good going by the way, Hope it keeps up.

semiprogambler

First Point 200 fak 11/8 5pts
Hellfire club 300 fak 15/8
The hardy boy 310 plum 4/1 ew

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semiprogambler wrote: »

First Point 200 fak 11/8 5pts
Hellfire club 300 fak 15/8
The hardy boy 310 plum 4/1 ew

Bad day at -6 and lucky not to be -8

+11.4 overall.

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Sequence.... 1000 3000 3001101 0110 1000 01100 010010002
Bets 37
Wins 11
Lays 3 from 3

semiprogambler

Mount Helicon 330 south 4/1 ew
High Jack 340 folk 5/1 ew
Qyarante Deux 420 wolvo 3/1:)Won sp 9/2

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semiprogambler wrote: »

Mount Helicon 330 south 4/1 ew
High Jack 340 folk 5/1 ew
Qyarante Deux 420 wolvo 3/1:)Won sp 9/2

Profit of 1.7 points
Running Total + 13.1

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Tues 19th Jan
Sequence.... 1000 3000 3101 0110 1000 01100 010010002 001
Bets 37
Wins 11
Lays 3 from 3
Profit + 13.1

semiprogambler

Mister green 230 ling ew WON
Mister pete 250 new ew
Val c 700 kemp

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semiprogambler wrote: »

Mister green 230 ling ew WON
Mister pete 250 new ew..........3rd at 4/1

Val c 700 kemp

Nice one........ 8/1 winner

x PyRo

It's not hard to back a horse who's been backed in from 25/1 to 8/1 in fairness.

semiprogambler

x PyRo wrote: »

It's not hard to back a horse who's been backed in from 25/1 to 8/1 in fairness.

Hi Mate,

If it`s that easy to pick winners and show a profit over 30/50 bets why don`t you post your selections?

x PyRo

semiprogambler wrote: »

Hi Mate,

If it`s that easy to pick winners and show a profit over 30/50 bets why don`t you post your selections?

I do, and i'm down 1 point after about 100 picks.

I pick my own horses the night before 90% of the time, i don't rely on market movers to decide if i'll back them or not.

I never ever claimed it's easy to pick winners, i know it's damn hard to make a profit but i don't see the point in picking market movers, we can all do that easily, you just seem to post them up.

Fair play for being in profit and all but i just don't think it's as impressive as Pointbreak believes it is, then again profit is profit.

semiprogambler

x PyRo wrote: »

I do, and i'm down 1 point after about 100 picks.

I pick my own horses the night before 90% of the time, i don't rely on market movers to decide if i'll back them or not.

I never ever claimed it's easy to pick winners, i know it's damn hard to make a profit but i don't see the point in picking market movers, we can all do that easily, you just seem to post them up.

Fair play for being in profit and all but i just don't think it's as impressive as Pointbreak believes it is, then again profit is profit.

I`m here to make a profit be it by form, info, systems, movers or whatever, if i think the bet still represents value at what ever price i will back it to make a profit.
If you don`t like my style of bet selection then dont follow the thread its not worth getting stressed out. Quite simple!

x PyRo

semiprogambler wrote: »

I`m here to make a profit be it by form, info, systems, movers or whatever, if i think the bet still represents value at what ever price i will back it to make a profit.
If you don`t like my style of bet selection then dont follow the thread it`s quite simple!

Just airing my views, i'm sure you don't mind some constructive criticism ?.

I'll keep an eye on your results and fair play to you for making money from this, even though the method is a little bit obvious.

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x PyRo wrote: »

I do, and i'm down 1 point after about 100 picks.

I pick my own horses the night before 90% of the time, i don't rely on market movers to decide if i'll back them or not.

I never ever claimed it's easy to pick winners, i know it's damn hard to make a profit but i don't see the point in picking market movers, we can all do that easily, you just seem to post them up.

Fair play for being in profit and all but i just don't think it's as impressive as Pointbreak believes it is, then again profit is profit.

Picking your own selection the night before is all very noble, but if you are making a loss I fail to see how you can criticise someone who is making a good profit. It doesn't matter a jot how SP picks winners, if he takes the market in to consideration all the better . It makes sense to do that.

essexman

I can see both viewpoints here as I've tried many market move ideas over the last few years. They seem to work sometimes for quite a while then inexplicably stop working. The test will be Time in the end. One angle that is definately under researched is what trainers to follow in the context of market moves I think anyway.

semiprogambler

POINTBREAK wrote: »

Picking your own selection the night before is all very noble, but if you are making a loss I fail to see how you can criticise someone who is making a good profit. It doesn't matter a jot how SP picks winners, if he takes the market in to consideration all the better . It makes sense to do that.

That`s exactly the point PB. The gamblers graveyard is littered with fallen gamblers who looked through form blinkered eyes. Being a greyhound owner of many years i know stand out form dogs who haven`t got a chance because the trainer has stuffed them. The same can be said of the horse racing industry. Let any market move be a tool to aiding your gambling knowledge

candlegrease

X Pyro doesn't seem to grasp the goal of betting: to make a profit. The means are irrelevant.

essexman

Stanley Rigby never seen anything like that. easy to back at 14/1 just before the on course market. they say it opened at 7/1, no way it was 14/1.
they,ve returned it at 11/2 !! came 2nd. kempton 5.00
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x PyRo

candlegrease wrote: »

X Pyro doesn't seem to grasp the goal of betting: to make a profit. The means are irrelevant.

Where did i say that ?. I said fair play for being in profit but as with all systems/methods it can hit a bad run of form, lots of market movers fail, probably most of them and it could happen here too. I'm not having a go i was just saying what i thought, i'm entitled to so stop putting words in my mouth saying that i don't grasp the goal of betting, because i can assure you i do.

x PyRo

essexman wrote: »

They seem to work sometimes for quite a while then inexplicably stop working.

That's exactly what i think could happen, everything hits bad spells.

Fair play OP, and keep it up as i do hope you keep making yourself money and others who may follow. Not going to post on this subject anymore as it's clogging up the thread, all the best.

POINTBREAK

Weds 19th Jan
Sequence.... 1000 3000 3101 0110 1000 01100 010010002 001130
Bets 40
Wins 12
Lays 3 from 3
Profit + 22.1

Keep up the good work and don't listen to anyone who tells you your'e only doing this or only doing that. Who really gives a monkeys how you find winners. It's profit that counts in the end.

semiprogambler

x PyRo wrote: »

That's exactly what i think could happen, everything hits bad spells.

Fair play OP, and keep it up as i do hope you keep making yourself money and others who may follow. Not going to post on this subject anymore as it's clogging up the thread, all the best.

Have been seriously betting for 3 years now and to date have not had a really bad month to report about. Obviously like anyone else ive had bad spells but nothing in the way of prolonged losing runs which knock the confidence for six and ultimately derail the profit target and kill the betting bank!

thesandeman

Go for it Semi. Lets hope the curse of Boards doesnt get you. Even Mel Collier was getting the odd winner until we started to follow him lol.

kingshankly

I'm sorry but I'm with x pyro here every horse bar a couple that has been selected has been on a market mover. you will never make money backing market movers at sp . This post is not criticism it's advice. I am on a lot of these market movers at the original price (I punt for various gamblers in England)and am just about making a small profit.
Best of luck would love to see you prevail but remember the golden rule VALUE and if you selecting horse at bottomed out prices your not getting value . If you say your selecting these horse through other methods maybe so but why not post them at 10am

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kingshankly wrote: »

I'm sorry but I'm with x pyro here every horse bar a couple that has been selected has been on a market mover. you will never make money backing market movers at sp . This post is not criticism it's advice. I am on a lot of these market movers at the original price (I punt for various gamblers in England)and am just about making a small profit.
Best of luck would love to see you prevail but remember the golden rule VALUE and if you selecting horse at bottomed out prices your not getting value . If you say your selecting these horse through other methods maybe so but why not post them at 10am

On Betfair or with bookies?

kingshankly

POINTBREAK wrote: »

On Betfair or with bookies?

99% bookies you get very little liquidity on betfair at 11am in a selling hurdle or the likes