Jesse Ventura talks about the Bilderburgers and meetings

mysterious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvFJRlxnaXU&feature=sub

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_-TaYI8w0w&feature=sub

This is absaloutly estatic. A man who is speaking out in his own country. It really hit home to me, in regards to whats really going on in our world.

mysterious

mysterious wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_-TaYI8w0w&feature=sub

This is absaloutly estatic. A man who is speaking out in his own country. It really hit home to me, in regards to whats really going on in our world.

Wasn't he a governor?

Aren't you just believing what he's telling you?

mysterious

King Mob wrote: »

Wasn't he a governor?

Aren't you just believing what he's telling you?

Wow your response was so fast!

I beleive in myself and see whats real. And this is real.
He's an independant, who has been in war, who was tortured, who now lives in Mexico. Hes a peace activist and he is one of the few who is speaking out against corruption in the states. He was against the war in Iraq.


Some people are speakingn for their fellow man. So kudoos to him
Glad you asked.;)

mysterious

mysterious wrote: »

Wow your response was so fast!

I beleive in myself and see whats real. And this is real.
He's an independant, who has been in war, who was tortured, who now lives in Mexico. Hes a peace activist and he is one of the few who is speaking out against corruption in the states. He was against the war in Iraq.


Some people are speakingn for their fellow man. So kudoos to him
Glad you asked.;)

So you are just believing what he tells you despite being a politician.

In that case:
I believe in myself and see what's real. And this is not real.

mysterious

King Mob wrote: »

So you are just believing what he tells you despite being a politician.

In that case:
I believe in myself and see what's real. And this is not real.

I know you assume and skepticise alot and twist things to make this very complicated like now. The funny thing is it's almost in desparation too at this point.


But actions are clear in a person. Human beings have the ability to see and learn in their enviroment around them. We can see what a person is like by the way act and project into the world. I don't have to find out what a person is like by what they say. I find that you learn more about a person by the way they act and do in action.

Jesse is speaking out, and it's apparent we can see whats been projected. Watch the video and see for yourself. Funny how you obviously twist this man into a twist, and yet support all the government regimes? Funny that.

uprising

mysterious wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_-TaYI8w0w&feature=sub

This is absaloutly estatic. A man who is speaking out in his own country. It really hit home to me, in regards to whats really going on in our world.

Jesse Ventura ex WWF wrestler(Hulk Hogan) days, ex governer of minisota,(governer during 9/11), has been speaking out for years now about whats going on in our world, maybe spend a little more time studying our world, forget the galactic federation for a while, see what crazy things are happening on our planet.

mysterious

mysterious wrote: »

I know you assume alot and twist things to make this very complicated like now.


But actions are clear in a person. Human beings have the ability to see and learn in their enviroment. We can see what a person is like by the way act and project into the world. I don't have to find out what a person is like by what they say. I find that you learn more about a person by the way they act and do in action.

Jesse is speaking out, and it's apparent we can see whats been projected. Watch the video and see for yourself.

How am I twisting anything?

I'm using the same assertion you where.
How is mine any less than yours?

I believe in myself and see what's real. And this is not real.
You said your self that we can rely on politicians.
So therefore he's lying.

mysterious

uprising wrote: »

Jesse Ventura ex WWF wrestler(Hulk Hogan) days, ex governer of minisota,(governer during 9/11), has been speaking out for years now about whats going on in our world, maybe spend a little more time studying our world, forget the galactic federation for a while, see what crazy things are happening on our planet.

I agree with you, I certainly don't need you to tell me what to forget and what to do with my mind though!

I'm very much aware what is going on our planet.

Yitzhak Rabin

mysterious wrote: »

I know you assume and skepticise alot and twist things to make this very complicated like now. The funny thing is it's almost desparation too at this point.


But actions are clear in a person. Human beings have the ability to see and learn in their enviroment. We can see what a person is like by the way act and project into the world. I don't have to find out what a person is like by what they say. I find that you learn more about a person by the way they act and do in action.

Jesse is speaking out, and it's apparent we can see whats been projected. Watch the video and see for yourself.

So essentially you're a mind reader? Your million dollar cheque from James Randi awaits, in that case.

While I found that vid slightly more interesting than most CT stuff, it was still lacking in the department that we skeptics so unfairly demand, evidence

The natural remedy doctor, made 1001 claims and produced zilch evidence. Its lucky though that you can tell when someone is telling the truth by "how they project themselves".

mysterious

yekahs wrote: »

So essentially you're a mind reader? Your million dollar cheque from James Randi awaits, in that case.

While I found that vid slightly more interesting than most CT stuff, it was still lacking in the department that we skeptics so unfairly demand, evidence

The natural remedy doctor, made 1001 claims and produced zilch evidence. Its lucky though that you can tell when someone is telling the truth by "how they project themselves".

No it's just using your mind. We are born with mind and we actually know more than we think we know.

The body also never hides and it will always make subconcious cues if someone ie lieing or not. It's good to be self aware and be in touch with the subconcious and sublimal part of our envirormnent. Most of us are not just "conscious" with our daily lives. Today a lot of people are now tapping into themselves a little more and thats all it takes. its not really anything hocus pocus.

uprising

mysterious wrote: »

I agree with you, I certainly don't need you to tell me what to forget and what to do with my mind though!

I'm very much aware what is going on our planet.

Sorry didn't mean to offend you, point taken, my mistake:o

Yitzhak Rabin

mysterious wrote: »

The body also never hides and it will always make subconcious cues if someone ie lieing or not.

I can agree with you on this one(although it is far from an exact science), but I'd be interested to know what exactly you picked up from that video that allowed you to simply accept everything they said sans evidence?

It's good to be self aware and be in touch with the subconcious and sublimal part of our envirormnent. Most of us are not just "conscious" with our daily lives. Today a lot of people are now tapping into themselves a little more and thats all it takes. its not really anything hocus pocus.

This is just too vague to comment on. I have no idea what you mean, unless you're more specific. I could just point out, as King Mob rightly had, that the same exact argument can be used against you.

mysterious

yekahs wrote: »

I can agree with you on this one(although it is far from an exact science), but I'd be interested to know what exactly you picked up from that video that allowed you to simply accept everything they said sans evidence?



This is just too vague to comment on. I have no idea what you mean, unless you're more specific. I could just point out, as King Mob rightly had, that the same exact argument can be used against you.

I just see it for what it is. I really scratch my head at some people today at how surreal and inane it becomes when people go out of their way to make simple things complkicated. I would out of respect ask you this. I would like if you and King mob actually just read over your posts again.

I think this should clarify exactly whats is going on here on this forum. People are coming on and trying to deflect the attention from the OP and turn it into an arguement. This is whats happening if you read back over this thread and all the others lately.

I wont be doing that and I will have to stick to the topic. I've learnt a lot in that respect. You can choose to believe what you want. But when the truth is out, its out and nobody can twist or make it appear like someithing else. That's all I can say on this with you.

Good luck.

rovert

Please dont get taken in by Jesse, he is great at soundbytes but ultimately you will find him very superficial.

He'll speak out about WWE but will shut up when they wave a paycheck.

mysterious

rovert wrote: »

Please dont get taken in by Jesse, he is great at soundbytes but ultimately you will find him very superficial.

He'll speak out about WWE but will shut up when they wave a paycheck.

I know it seems every good person out there who is standing up to this, is a "bad guy"

I know its kind of a common judgment we the people tend to do when we realise somebody is standing up to their truth. People turn into a negative.

It's why the best of them get shot early enough. When they are gone people only then realise how great these people were.

Yitzhak Rabin

mysterious wrote: »

I just see it for what it is. I really scratch my head at some people today at how surreal and inane it becomes when people go out of their way to make simple things complkicated. I would out of respect ask you this. I would like if you and King mob actually just read over your posts again.

I think this should clarify exactly whats is going on here on this forum. People are coming on and trying to deflect the attention from the OP and turn it into an arguement. This is whats happening if you read back over this thread and all the others lately.

I wont be doing that and I will have to stick to the topic. I've learnt a lot in that respect. You can choose to believe what you want. But when the truth is out, its out and nobody can twist or make it appear like someithing else. That's all I can say on this with you.

Good luck.

Ok fair enough, but with all due respect, I think it is you that makes things ridiculously vague and complicated.

The reason, that these threads normally degenerate into a tit-for-tat and go off topic, IMO at least is your inability to answer the simple and clear questions asked of you. As far as I'm concerned, you can believe whatever you want, I couldn't give a hoot. All I ever ask is if you have evidence. If you simply gave a one word answer - i.e NO, you wouldn't hear from me, or any of the other more skeptical posters again.

But invariably you won't admit you have no evidence, and instead lead the threads in circles answering each question with subsequent claims of intuition, mountains of unspecified research, gut feelings, accuse us of being blind, tell us to go away to the science forumn, call us brainwashed, etc. etc.

If you simply want to discuss something that can't be distinguished from fantasy, that's fine by me, at least do the honest thing and just admit you have no evidence, and I'll be gone.

Bodhisopha

Jesse Ventura wouldn't by any chance be trying to hype up his tv show imaginitively titled "CONSPIRACY THEORIES".

As mentioned before, he has spoken out against the WWE on many occasions but low and behold they wave some money in his face and he appears on a WWE show as a guest host.

Also, he wasn't tortured as such. He just got a taste of waterboarding as part of his training for the marines.

mysterious

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Jesse Ventura wouldn't by any chance be trying to hype up his tv show imaginitively titled "CONSPIRACY THEORIES".

As mentioned before, he has spoken out against the WWE on many occasions but low and behold they wave some money in his face and he appears on a WWE show as a guest host.

Also, he wasn't tortured as such. He just got a taste of waterboarding as part of his training for the marines.

Hes a human being standing for others. You don't need to "be perfect" you don't need to be Jesus christ, you don't need to be a governer, you don't need to a celebrity, you don't need to have a huge brain.


You need a voice and common sense to know that you have power and you have have that voice in this world. The reason why some people are trying to silent and ridicule people like jesse is simply like this. I will give 3 points.


!. You are fear of others using their own power
2. Your trying to stop him/her from been self empowered.
3. Fear of the truth.

This is why Jesus was put on the Cross, because Rome didn't like self empowered people who had love for humanity and followed their truth.

Nick_oliveri

I really liked Jesse until I watched the Haarp show. That guy could be in an interview with several other people and when he was talking, they would STFU. He spoke the truth with a passion. His conspiracy show tainted my view of him. Not because it was about conspiracies, mind. Both the editing and his quick conclusions/suppositions did it.

indough

Nick_oliveri wrote: »

I really liked Jesse until I watched the Haarp show.

why what happened in that

MadPatrick

There's a very interesting documentary called Zeitgeist(spelling maybe wrong, imdb it) that deals with the Bildeburg group. They want to get the population down to 500 million, and base their rule on the Chinese model.

It's good that someone high profile is calling attention to it.
On the other hand the out of control population needs to be culled a little but they're going about it the wrong way, I have ideas but noone will put me in control

I have nothing else to add

rovert

God I hate mysterious's posting style going by first impressions. It makes it very hard to have a discussion with.

Jesse isnt a Great Person if you look his record as Governor and the amount of positive change he achieved. He is a flake with some nice pipes for announcing, speeches and voice overs. Thats all really.

Nick_oliveri

indough wrote: »

why what happened in that

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread524228/pg1
I might watch other episodes when I run out of **** to do later tonight.

indough

i thought he was great in predator and the running man

edit: just read the link, its nice to see a bit of integrity, it often suffers imo a fair bit on this subject matter sadly

mickeyrooo

Deleted User wrote: »

I have nothing else to add

Thats brilliant....I think Jessie is a bit of an eejit but his heart is in the right place...wouldn't believe everything that comes out of his mouth..interesting show all the same!!

RGDATA!

this is a few months old but i just saw it last night. hilarious.

jesse ventura on fox and friends, host throws hissy fit and storms off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it3LIi6RLIg&feature=related

i saw this on the back of watching his 'conspiracy theory' show for the first time. i heard ventura's son, who produces the show, on alex jones. jones was talking like it was part of a burgeoning revolution in hollywood - they're now willing to put stuff like this in the mainstream. which is maybe kind of the point mysterious was making in the original post this thread.

the one I watched was episode 2, about 9/11. it's on youtube (no link, i'm not going to do your research for you ). my first impression of the show was it was a bit amateurish and hokey in presentation, but i think i like ventura himself (and moreso after the above clip) and there was some interesting stuff in it

one thing it did well was acknowledging the typical skepticism against some of the conspiracy arguments. It did this through members of his investigative team raising doubts at different points. This is an obvious device but I think it's important if they expect a wider audience to engage with it and maybe have some of their preconceptions challenged.

Truthrevolution

I was happy to see somebody bring up the subject of the Bilderberg group, however after reading through the posts i have to say im disappointed.The Bilderberg conferences are a serious issue and should also be discussed on a more serious level.I may even start a bilderberg thread on the politics forums if the mods allow me.What concerns me here is that there is a lot of trolling going on in this forum and there are people on these threads with the sole purpose of discredditing the topics.My advice to people trying to get their message across is to try not get into petty little arguments with hacks who will just drag you down to their level.
You must also understand that its totally impossible for the average Joe Soap to come to terms with the idea that the leaders of nations and people with global influence would come together to discuss plans for lowering the worlds population.I was once sceptical about the whole notion of these topics, it takes months of research and investigation before one can understand it and start joining the dots together.
There seems to be a lot of celebrities joining the new world order bandwaggon over the last couple of years and they have only succeeded in making the issue look ridiculous.Jessie Ventura is only new to all this, maybe hes got peoples best interests at heart, i dont know im getting a whiff of Glenn Beck from him.

mysterious

Truthrevolution wrote: »

I was happy to see somebody bring up the subject of the Bilderberg group, however after reading through the posts i have to say im disappointed.The Bilderberg conferences are a serious issue and should also be discussed on a more serious level.I may even start a bilderberg thread on the politics forums if the mods allow me.What concerns me here is that there is a lot of trolling going on in this forum and there are people on these threads with the sole purpose of discredditing the topics.My advice to people trying to get their message across is to try not get into petty little arguments with hacks who will just drag you down to their level.
You must also understand that its totally impossible for the average Joe Soap to come to terms with the idea that the leaders of nations and people with global influence would come together to discuss plans for lowering the worlds population.I was once sceptical about the whole notion of these topics, it takes months of research and investigation before one can understand it and start joining the dots together.
There seems to be a lot of celebrities joining the new world order bandwaggon over the last couple of years and they have only succeeded in making the issue look ridiculous.Jessie Ventura is only new to all this, maybe hes got peoples best interests at heart, i dont know im getting a whiff of Glenn Beck from him.

Could I bring this post to the feedback thread. It would help the mods see the frustration we have of people discrediting these topics with cheap insults, ridicule and insults. Since you brought this point up. I think its a valid point to be raised in feedback. Nearly every thread I create dies down because of this:(

Yitzhak Rabin

mysterious wrote: »

Could I bring this post to the feedback thread. It would help the mods see the frustration we have of people discrediting these topics with cheap insults, ridicule and insults. Since you brought this point up. I think its a valid point to be raised in feedback. Nearly every thread I create dies down because of this:(

Yes its bloody awful when your thread gets destroyed by people close-mindedly asking for evidence! How dare they!

I still don't get how you think someone dismissing your ideas is insulting, yet you can dismiss people who believe the mainstream as close minded and brainwashed. TBH, I consider neither insults, they're just opinions.

Truthrevolution

Truthrevolution wrote: »

I was happy to see somebody bring up the subject of the Bilderberg group, however after reading through the posts i have to say im disappointed.The Bilderberg conferences are a serious issue and should also be discussed on a more serious level.I may even start a bilderberg thread on the politics forums if the mods allow me.What concerns me here is that there is a lot of trolling going on in this forum and there are people on these threads with the sole purpose of discredditing the topics.My advice to people trying to get their message across is to try not get into petty little arguments with hacks who will just drag you down to their level.
You must also understand that its totally impossible for the average Joe Soap to come to terms with the idea that the leaders of nations and people with global influence would come together to discuss plans for lowering the worlds population.I was once sceptical about the whole notion of these topics, it takes months of research and investigation before one can understand it and start joining the dots together.
There seems to be a lot of celebrities joining the new world order bandwaggon over the last couple of years and they have only succeeded in making the issue look ridiculous.Jessie Ventura is only new to all this, maybe hes got peoples best interests at heart, i dont know im getting a whiff of Glenn Beck from him.

If you have a problem with a post, report it.

You've received a warning for, albeit indirectly, calling members of this forum "trolls" and "hacks". If you can't make a point civilly, don't make it at all.

mysterious wrote: »

Could I bring this post to the feedback thread. It would help the mods see the frustration we have of people discrediting these topics with cheap insults, ridicule and insults. Since you brought this point up. I think its a valid point to be raised in feedback. Nearly every thread I create dies down because of this:(

You can bring whatever you'd like to feedback, although I don't necessarily see a problem.

mysterious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYadrfGzvfs

Hillary goes to bilderburg meetings but shes never heard about them. Listen to the video.

Its amazing how a lie will go so far.:eek:

Truthrevolution

mysterious wrote: »

Could I bring this post to the feedback thread. It would help the mods see the frustration we have of people discrediting these topics with cheap insults, ridicule and insults. Since you brought this point up. I think its a valid point to be raised in feedback. Nearly every thread I create dies down because of this:(

Yes you can use the post for whatever purpose you want, but i doubt the mods will do anything about it.The only thing you can do is make sure you dont rise to the bait.Otherwise youl just get embroiled in silly debates about who is right and who's wrong and then your thread will just lose its appeal.The aim is to educate people, not argue with them.
In the US for example government agencies have appointed personel whos sole job is to discredit information over the internet.Iv seen so many times on forums where posters go on and sabotage important issues and make it look ridiculous.Its all part of the disinfo network.
(im not in any way implying that this happens on boards.ie)disc.

mysterious

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Yes you can use the post for whatever purpose you want, but i doubt the mods will do anything about it.The only thing you can do is make sure you dont rise to the bait.Otherwise youl just get embroiled in silly debates about who is right and who's wrong and then your thread will just lose its appeal.The aim is to educate people, not argue with them.
In the US for example government agencies have appointed personel whos sole job is to discredit information over the internet.Iv seen so many times on forums where posters go on and sabotage important issues and make it look ridiculous.Its all part of the disinfo network.
(im not in any way implying that this happens on boards.ie)disc.

Well we need more of us on here to bring the balance of truth. So we can get our discussions like this thread out in the open.

namloc1980

mysterious wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYadrfGzvfs

Hillary goes to bilderburg meetings but shes never heard about them. Listen to the video.

Its amazing how a lie will go so far.:eek:

Just curious, how do you know she attended such a meeting?

PirateShampoo

mysterious wrote: »

Well we need more of us on here to bring the balance of truth. So we can get our discussions like this thread out in the open.

Then why don't you start your own forum where you can ban people who disagree with your beliefs and views because you clearly seem unhappy with the way this forum is run.

Truthrevelation, mysterious and PirateShampoo, if you have comments on the forum, you know the thread to post it in, and it's not this one.

Truthrevolution

namloc1980 wrote: »

Just curious, how do you know she attended such a meeting?

The 2006 Bilderberg conference that was held in Ottawa,Canada Hilary was observed being escorted into the hotel where the conference was held.Reproters phoned reception and the general manager of the hotel actually confirmed her attendance.

Lab_Mouse

Truthrevolution wrote: »

The 2006 Bilderberg conference that was held in Ottawa,Canada Hilary was observed being escorted into the hotel where the conference was held.Reproters phoned reception and the general manager of the hotel actually confirmed her attendance.

that was a bit stupid for a very secretive organisation.Did the general manager get sacked?

namloc1980

Truthrevolution wrote: »

The 2006 Bilderberg conference that was held in Ottawa,Canada Hilary was observed being escorted into the hotel where the conference was held.Reproters phoned reception and the general manager of the hotel actually confirmed her attendance.

That sounds very odd. The general manager of the hotel hosting a meeting of an all powerful super secret organisation spills the beans about the attendees to a random punter over the phone! I find that quite incredible. I don't know if it's true or not but it sounds off the wall.

squod

Worlds elite slip into town for secret meeting.

mysterious

Has Obama been cot going to them? I remember reading somwhere that hes has gone to many of them even pre presidential times.

Hillary and Bill have been spotted at them. They know the public know now, so they try find other ways to distract us from knowing. Either way its all very well that we know now, but whats goes on behind the doors is another matter.;)

The bilderburgers are merely only the elites that are a step above the public figureheads in most cases, like the Rockerfellers and Rothschilds.lizzies. Then after secret societies you have brother hoods and after that is the council of 12(13) the 13 been the representation of Lucifer. The all seeing eye is the top and nobody sees the top. This is my own research into the hieacry of power.

But its amazing people assume that the bilderburgers are shocking in secrecy. They are mostly puppets aswell, just running the finanical and monetary decisions..

Lab_Mouse

mysterious wrote: »

But its amazing people assume that the bilderburgers are shocking in secrecy.

In fairness mysterious its the CT'er's and not the skeptics that go on about the bilderberg secrecy thing.

I know Im pissing in the wind but some evidence of the rockerfeller lizzies would make my day!I know do my own research yada yada.I have.And I think you spout a lot of bull.Only places that back you up are sites like David Icke and numerous otherones that at a guess are funded by individuals who only taught themselves html a week ago and all cross link with themselves

Lab_Mouse

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

In fairness mysterious its the CT'er's and not the skeptics that go on about the bilderberg secrecy thing.

I know Im pissing in the wind but some evidence of the rockerfeller lizzies would make my day!I know do my own research yada yada.I have.And I think you spout a lot of bull.Only places that back you up are sites like David Icke and numerous otherones that at a guess are funded by individuals who only taught themselves html a week ago and all cross link with themselves

If you can't post in a civil manner, Lab Mouse, then don't post at all.

RGDATA!

there is a full list of the attendees of the 2006 conference here for anyone who's interested. don't see hillary clinton on it.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/061306b.htm

i have no doubt that she is aware of the bilderberg meetings however, so i watched with interest that clip from mysterious wondering how she could possibly deny all knowledge of it. actually she doesn't exactly, just specifically that she was there in 06. doesn't look too happy to be asked about it all the same.

Truthrevolution

RGDATA! wrote: »

there is a full list of the attendees of the 2006 conference here for anyone who's interested. don't see hillary clinton on it.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/061306b.htm

i have no doubt that she is aware of the bilderberg meetings however, so i watched with interest that clip from mysterious wondering how she could possibly deny all knowledge of it. actually she doesn't exactly, just specifically that she was there in 06. doesn't look too happy to be asked about it all the same.

Here is a list of Bilderberg attendees, courtesy of wikipedia, from over the years.Hilary is third on the US list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_bilderberg_participants

namloc1980

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Here is a list of Bilderberg attendees, courtesy of wikipedia, from over the years.Hilary is third on the US list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_bilderberg_participants

Wikipedia??? Come on. Anybody can put whatever they want up on wikipedia. I could go into wikipedia right now and edit it to say that Barney the Dinosaur was a Bilderberg attendee.

squod

Similar link.

http://involuntaryservant.blogspot.com/2009/10/2009-free-bilderberg-cfr-trilateral.html

Truthrevolution

namloc1980 wrote: »

Wikipedia??? Come on. Anybody can put whatever they want up on wikipedia. I could go into wikipedia right now and edit it to say that Barney the Dinosaur was a Bilderberg attendee.

Fair enough then...........

Heres a video of Bill Clinton openly admitting attending a previous Bilderberg conference, maybe its an illusion, maybe its Barney the Dinosaur, i dont know, im beginning to wonder who the real conspiracy theorists are...............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jmzWi_nhQg

mysterious

You don't become a secretary state without at least going to some of these meetings. Come on guys why try deny somethnig that is already very apparent. Shakes head.

Your only fooling yourself if you think these elites dont go to the meetings. It's how power works. The more power you are, the more powerful meetings and organisations you go into. It's simple basic logic. She has been spotted at them and she has been to even more shocking meetings that the bilderburgers. She is also good friends with the rockerfellers etc. She is also related to most of the illuminati rulers as is Bill Clinton.

Power isn't just as simple as going to vote.:D

mcmoustache

A quick wiki-check explains the bilderberg group pretty well. They seem like your average think-tank to be honest. A bit like a golf club where planning applications might be discussed between the mayor and a pub landlord over the course of a few rounds. Only these guys work on a western world-wide scale. It's not really that sinister. Sure, many attendees are unelected but they are the most influential people in the world and you can't really stop them having parties with each other any more than you can stop the Oscars. And no, they are not lizards. Human sacrifice maybe but that was probably when someone went too far with a hooker and needed to cover it up.