Blue Steak

Riverpineapple

I've been thinking about eating a blue steak, has anyone eaten one before and what does it taste like?

El Weirdo

It's like normal steak except that it tells inappropriate jokes like Bernard Manning.

AnonoBoy

Riverpineapple wrote: »

I've been thinking about eating a blue steak, has anyone eaten one before and what does it taste like?

If your steak has gone blue you need to get your fridge fixed.

Run_to_da_hills

Have you checked the date. :eek:

genericguy

blue steak tastes delicious. i can't help but snigger when some 'connoiseur' friends of mine constantly ask for it well done.

pebbles21

Riverpineapple wrote: »

I've been thinking about eating a blue steak, has anyone eaten one before and what does it taste like?

The last time i visited The Simpsons i had one

Duff

Is that not the film with Martin Lawrence and the diamond??

EDIT: Ohhh STEAK!

I like my steak pink and bloody but if it's purple, it's pretty bad.. I imagine a blue steak would be very rough.

genericguy

Duff wrote: »

Is that not the film with Martin Lawrence and the diamond??

no.

copacetic

genericguy wrote: »

blue steak tastes delicious. i can't help but snigger when some 'connoiseur' friends of mine constantly ask for it well done.

why are you sniggering exactly? 'connoiseur' (sic) is not a term that means anything to do with food.

Duff

genericguy wrote: »

no.

Yes I have now realized that.

Kiera

Deleted User wrote: »

I like my steak pink and bloody but if it's purple, it's pretty bad.. I imagine a blue steak would be very rough.

Yeah i'm the same. Why would you want to eat nearly raw steak, OP?

TheZohanS

Riverpineapple wrote: »

I've been thinking about eating a blue steak, has anyone eaten one before and what does it taste like?

Tastes like Smurf.

copacetic

TheZohan wrote: »

Tastes like Smurf.

Papa or smurfette?

Riverpineapple

Kiera wrote: »

Yeah i'm the same. Why would you want to eat nearly raw steak, OP?

Out of curiousity, a lot of people really like it?

I wanna see what I'm missing.

markok84

I had steak tartar in Paris last year. There's something disconcerting about eating a wad of cold raw steak mince with a raw egg on top, but I have to admit that it was pretty tasty.

Karl Hungus

Kiera wrote: »

Yeah i'm the same. Why would you want to eat nearly raw steak, OP?

Yeah, why not just go the whole hog and have Steak Tartare?

_blank_

Well, I always ask it for my steak as rare as possible, some Irish restaurants won't do it blue.

I hate people who fry the fúck out of steaks, ruining the taste of them.

It's meat, it's supposed to taste like mean, not bleedin charcoal.

And, when it's well done it's tough as old boots, blue/rare is extremely melty

Riverpineapple

I read somewhere that the difference between blue and rare is the same as the difference between rare and well done. Don't know if it's true or not...

Kiera

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Yeah, why not just go the whole hog and have Steak Tartare?

Sweet jesus, thats rank!

Dudess

Rare to medium - mmm. A bit of pink is fine, but blood I don't wanna see.

http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/images/cooking-a-blue-steak1.jpg

Blue steak def wouldn't be my cup of tea.. I'd like to try it though. I've eaten raw tuna and sushi before and thought they were ok. I don't mean canned tuna either, proper raw which in my mind sounds worse than blue steak.

OutlawPete

markok84 wrote: »

I had steak tartar in Paris last year. There's something disconcerting about eating a wad of cold raw steak mince with a raw egg on top, but I have to admit that it was pretty tasty.

All food is supposed to be eaten raw.

Had we of not discovered fire, we'd still be eating everything raw.

I eat Lamb and Beef Carpaccio and Sushi all the time with salads and drink veggie juices.. I also make my own coleslaw and dressings using raw eggs and eat tons of Raw (unpasteurized) Irish Cheese.

If your low on energy a raw food diet can do wonders. Better than any ripoff multivitamins.

There is a 42 year old guy on YouTube called Tim VanOrden (Running Raw) who only eats raw fruits and vegetables and runs marathons on it. Don't think I coud live without meat but he seems grand.

There is also another guy called Dr Douglas Graham who worked with the Olympic team who also only eats raw fruits and vegetables.

The craziest dude of all is this guy ..:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abg8l2Zs7d8

AnonoBoy

Deleted User wrote: »

Blue steak def wouldn't be my cup of tea.. I'd like to try it though. I've eaten raw tuna and sushi before and thought they were ok. I don't mean canned tuna either, proper raw which in my mind sounds worse than blue steak.

Is raw tuna not sushi?

pikachucheeks

Des wrote: »

Well, I always ask it for my steak as rare as possible, some Irish restaurants won't do it blue.

I was going to say the same thing!

For insurance / health and safety regulations, a lot of restaurants won't serve steak blue...

I presume it has something to do with you being viable to illness if you eat it. (Unless your stomach is accustomed to eating essentially raw meat.)

OutlawPete

Des wrote: »

It's meat, it's supposed to taste like mean, not bleedin charcoal.

Precisely and it's very unhealthy. Your HCL might break it down somewhat but eating meat where you have denatured the proteins to that extent will make your pancreas work overtime and in the end the enzymes it releases are almost redundant.

No wonder people are so ill these days with what the shovel down their throats.

OutlawPete

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Is raw tuna not sushi?

No, it's a form of Sashimi. Sushi is Sashimi (Raw Fish) with rice.

Kokoro on Liffey St I would recommend to anyone wanting to try some.

Gummy Panda

OutlawPete wrote: »

All food t is supposed to be eaten raw.

Had we of not discovered fire, we'd still be eating everything raw.

But didn't we use our appendix to help eat raw meat/foods back then?

OutlawPete

Gummy Panda wrote: »

But didn't we use our appendix to help eat raw meat/foods back then?

No idea .. I still have mine though

AnonoBoy

OutlawPete wrote: »

No, it's a form of Sashimi. Sushi is Sashimi (Raw Fish) with rice.

Kokoro on Liffey St I would recommend to anyone wanting to try some.

Ah yeah - I knew that. Probably.

I do indeed love sushi (and sashimi). Delicious bastards fish.

OutlawPete

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Ah yeah - I knew that. Probably.

I do indeed love sushi (and sashimi). Delicious bastards fish.

The best place in Dublin for Sashimi/Sushi is Yamamori but it's quite expensive.

If I ever win the lottery, you'll find be living in there

neil_hosey

copacetic wrote: »

why are you sniggering exactly? 'connoiseur' (sic) is not a term that means anything to do with food.

Cas clearly, well done steak is for PUSSIES! ... surely you can figure out what the OP is trying to say instead of posting that crap

jeeeeeezzz..

By the by, blue steak is the cats pyjamas..

AnonoBoy

Gummy Panda wrote: »

But didn't we use our appendix to help eat raw meat/foods back then?

I thought it was for grass.

AnonoBoy

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Is raw tuna not sushi?

That's what I would have thought but it's quite different.. Sushi was nice and flavoured whereas the tuna was just that. Slices of uncooked fish.

edit: Had them in Benihana's if anyones heard of them in America. They make a full show out of cooking meals right in front of you at the tables.. Best restaurants I've been to.

OneArt

Sushi isn't raw fish, it only refers to seaweed and rice wrapped around it. Raw fish is just a filling.

Dudess

Rare steak always gives me stomach cramps so yeah, there is a risk. But in fairness, it has never made me very sick.

OutlawPete wrote: »

The best place in Dublin for Sashimi/Sushi is Yamamori but it's quite expensive.

Yamamori is yum!

lightening

I have a thing for undercooked or raw meat. I find it much more palatable. I am a big fan of carpaccio, be it veal, beef, venison or fish. I am obsessed with raw oysters too. You have to try blue steak op! It's one of the best ways to eat beef. If you want to try it at home, get some good fillet beef, Angus and Hereford cross maybe. Slice it a bit thin season it and lash it on a BBQ or a smoking hot pan for a few seconds either side. If you are in Dublin, this place, www.montys.ie do a great raw, spiced minced lamb starter.

partyatmygaff

Why eat almost raw steak when you can just kill a cow and eat some "Fresh" meat?

lightening

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Why eat almost raw steak when you can just kill a cow and eat some "Fresh" meat?

Raw steak is eaten all the time, check out my post, carpaccio.

But... Beef needs to be hung for three weeks! (your probably kidding though)

Sofiztikated

The reason some restaurants won't/don't serve blue steaks is NOT because of H&S reasons, it's more to do with the fact that the "Chef" (and I use inverted commas on that) is because the chef can't cook it right.

The only thing that a restaurant shouldn't serve undercooked is burgers/minced beef. Due to the higher chance of Gastroentritis (food poisoning), the HSA doesn't allow it.

I've tried "Bleu" steak, personally, I don't like it. Its just I don't like the consistency and texture. When I'm eating steak, which is my favourite when I'm eating out, it is either rare or medium rare, depending on the restaurant/cut of steak. Most places over cook the damn thing anyway. So rare turns into medium rare, and M/R is usually medium anyway.

Don't like anything over medium, just tastes of burnt to me, can't understand how some people like it like that, but some people don't understand why I like it the way I eat it.

Das Kitty

I always cook my steaks blue and rest them for 10 minutes. So so much tastier than one that's cooked through. It had to be good quality steak though, none of your Dunnes Stores 2 for €5 ones.

Incidentally duck is gorgeous blue or rare as well.

Gummy Panda

OutlawPete wrote: »

No, it's a form of Sashimi. Sushi is Sashimi (Raw Fish) with rice.

Kokoro on Liffey St I would recommend to anyone wanting to try some.

God damnit!

I now have a craving for the tuna bento they have in there.

Wibbs

OutlawPete wrote: »

All food is supposed to be eaten raw.

Had we of not discovered fire, we'd still be eating everything raw.

Well yes but we did discover fire and as a result it opened up new protein sources that our previous ancestors couldnt exploit(though the really early guys split bones for marrow). Even our body shape changed. We went from big bellied apes who were omnivores ,but mostly plant matter based, to small bellied apes, who added a lot more animal protein to the diet. Its thought one reason for our bigger brains.

The militant veggie types say we're not designed to eat meat, because our digestive sytem is longer than pure carnivores and our stomach acid is weaker and our teeth aren't cut out for it. Vaguely true without cooking. With cooking we didnt need the strong stomach acid to break down harmful pathogens and we didnt need sharper teeth as cooking broke down the meat so it was more tender(and we had tools to render it in the first place). Plus cooked meat is more predigested too. Of course we dont have a working appendix either, so we're crap at breaking down cellulose so there's that PETA theory gone for a burton.

Most humans "in the wild" cook meat. Inuit will eat raw seal and whale blubber, but they also salt or freeze or leave to get high meat. That lot have a similar effect to cooking. It breaks down the meat to make it more digestible for us. In general it liberates more nutrient too. Raw food types(and I agree with them, most overcook food), forget that many good and nutritious foods need to be rendered in some way from the raw to release their nutrients(or make them safe to eat). So cooked isnt always the bad guy. Try eating a raw potato as an example. Raw while generally good, isnt always the best.

That said I bloody love blue steak. If it's a good steak of course. I have no problem cutting a bit of raw steak and eating it. That can be dangerous though. A quick cook in V high temps will kill bacteria on the surface of the meat. The internal is much less likely to have bacteria.

smodgley

Riverpineapple wrote: »

I've been thinking about eating a blue steak, has anyone eaten one before and what does it taste like?

i loke my steak cooked about 20 seconds on each side:D:D:pac:

Nevyn

Steak should not be cooked it should be seared.

Naikon

Had a steak today in tgi's and it was not perfect:(
I asked for rare which is the lowest they will cook it.
Not rare when I cut into it but it wasn't bad.

You need to go to a proper steakhouse to get it cooked
to blue/rare in fairness. Must be a health and safety thing.

It's best to just throw a steak on a cast iron pan which
is heated beforehand. 30 seconds each side, rest for 3
mins and serve with salt and pepper. No better way.

Jay P

Pah, every week I take orders from people for fillet beef:

Fuckin incinerate it.

That just destroys the meat.

I love when people order rare meat, because that's the only proper way to have it. Tender and full of flavour.

I'm not sure I'd be brave enough ti have it blue....

OutlawPete

Wibbs wrote: »

Well yes but we did discover fire and as a result it opened up new protein sources that our previous ancestors couldnt exploit(though the really early guys split bones for marrow).

How did 'discovering fire' open up new protein sources?

Wibbs wrote: »

Even our body shape changed. We went from big bellied apes who were omnivores ,but mostly plant matter based, to small bellied apes, who added a lot more animal protein to the diet. Its thought one reason for our bigger brains.

You and I both know that both sides of the arguments have reasons for this and both can neither be proven nor, disproven.

Wibbs wrote: »

The militant veggie types

They are 'millitants' on both sides from my experience.

Wibbs wrote: »

say we're not designed to eat meat, because our digestive sytem is longer than pure carnivores and our stomach acid is weaker and our teeth aren't cut out for it. Vaguely true without cooking.

I would disagree here as it takes less HCL to break down raw animal protein and even less pancreatic enzymes to futher break the protein down to amino acids.

Cooking protein denatures it and so makes it far harder for the body breaking it down and assimilate.

Wibbs wrote: »

With cooking we didnt need the strong stomach acid to break down harmful pathogens ..

I have read this quite a bit and I feel the point is exageratted by many 'nutritional' authors.

If there was pathogens in the protein then they are going to have very very weak protein structures compared to their host. Be it a Whip worm, Tape worm etc.

The smallest amount of stomach acid would take care of these critters.

Wibbs wrote: »

and we didnt need sharper teeth as cooking broke down the meat so it was more tender(and we had tools to render it in the first place).

Very true and this would be an argument that Vegatarians use and they would have a point to be fair to them.

We can't for instance just jump on a cow and start tearing at it's flesh with or teeth. I personally feel. IF man was supposed to consume animals then it is more likely that Birds, Game and Fish were next on the food chain as they are far more easily torn apart and consumed raw..

Wibbs wrote: »

Plus cooked meat is more predigested too.

If you consider softening and denaturing of proteins predigested then yes, but the protiens then allmost become redundant and lead to a increase in homocysteine as a result, which is a heavy price to pay just so your meat is more tender and easy to bite.

Wibbs wrote: »

Of course we dont have a working appendix either, so we're crap at breaking down cellulose so there's that PETA theory gone for a burton.

There are many people that are quite healthy eating a 'vegatarian' diet and so I don't see this as an issue at all.

Wibbs wrote: »

Most humans "in the wild" cook meat. .

I'm an Outlaw and I eat my meats raw

Wibbs wrote: »

Inuit will eat raw seal and whale blubber, .

They do indeed and it's a sight to behold. I have a VHS somewhere of the Inuits doing this in their log cabin in Canada - I must transfer it to DVD and upload it sometime.

Wibbs wrote: »

but they also salt or freeze or leave to get high meat. That lot have a similar effect to cooking. It breaks down the meat to make it more digestible for us. In general it liberates more nutrient too. .

Yes, and the proteins are far less denatured this way. That's where the tradition of Beef Jerky in the states came from. I used to buy some here but you can no longer get a good source in Dublin as the butchers that sell it use very fatty cuts of Beef and it's like chewing leather

Wibbs wrote: »

Raw food types(and I agree with them, most overcook food), forget that many good and nutritious foods need to be rendered in some way from the raw to release their nutrients(or make them safe to eat). So cooked isnt always the bad guy. Try eating a raw potato as an example. Raw while generally good, isnt always the best.

Ahh, here is where we will most likely differ in a big way.

You are correct about these foods (Potatoes, Wheat, Corn, Rice etc) needing to be cooked to render them digestable but I believe 100%, that humans were simply just never supposed to eat these foods in the first placel.

I believe if you cannot eat foods 100% raw then humans should simply not be eating them at all.

Tubers, Grains etc etc are were never meant for human consumption and I firmly believe that they have caused more illness in this world than anything else.

Wibbs wrote: »

That said I bloody love blue steak. If it's a good steak of course. I have no problem cutting a bit of raw steak and eating it. .

Amen to that

Wibbs wrote: »

That can be dangerous though. A quick cook in V high temps will kill bacteria on the surface of the meat. The internal is much less likely to have bacteria.

See now you went and ruined it

OutlawPete

Jay P wrote: »

Pah, every week I take orders from people for fillet beef:
That just destroys the meat.
I love when people order rare meat, because that's the only proper way to have it. Tender and full of flavour.
I'm not sure I'd be brave enough ti have it blue....

I have found that chefs love when you ask for you steak rare. I also find that you get a bigger and better piece.

I have been with people who have asked for there steak well done and they so obviously get a far worse peice of meat than I do .. don't know why

OutlawPete

Thaedydal wrote: »

Steak should not be cooked it should be seared.

Agreed, and same with Tuna - nothing worse than getting a Tuna steak that is cooked all the way through, totally ruins it.

partyatmygaff

OutlawPete wrote: »

I have found that chefs love when you ask for you steak rare. I also find that you get a bigger and better piece.

I have been with people who have asked for there steak well done and they so obviously get a far worse peice of meat than I do .. don't know why

Thats probably because it shrinks when its cooked.