Kids

BraziliaNZ

Do you ever want any? And why? Why are women so obsessed with having them? I don't like kids near me they freak me out as I don't know how to do that baby-talk stuff that comes so naturally to others. Any woman I've ever been with eventually starts talking about having kids. Probably the only reason I'd ever have any is to keep a woman happy, and to make my mother happy. Do other people want to steer clear of them too?

Plus, the world is over-populated so you're doing the planet a favour by not having any.

admiralofthefleet

/waits for snyper

CreepingDeath

Always good to have a few compatible organ donors around when I get older.

AnonoBoy

Larry Clark is a bit of a perv isn't he?

stovelid

I'd just be afraid that when I lost my faculties, my choice of geriatric facilities wouldn't be great. At least a kid can dump you in a decent home.

And there is the genetic lottery: He or she might just become a premiership footballer or tycoon meaning that you can retire early.

Kiera

I wanted loads when i was younger, not so sure now if i even want one. Maybe if i meet the right person i'll want them....

MetalDawg

People have a choice these days, our parents generation didnt have that freedom. I dont want any. Ever. Whats the point, just when your getting settled and financially secure, all of a sudden you've 20+ years of financial woe in your lap. WAAAA!!. :eek: Dont think so!!!

seamus

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Plus, the world is over-populated so you're doing the planet a favour by not having any.

Nonsense. Some parts of the planet are over populated simply because too many people have tried to cram into an area which doesn't have resources to sustain them. The entire planet has capacity for billions more humans, possibly even trillions.

AnonoBoy

seamus wrote: »

Nonsense. Some parts of the planet are over populated simply because too many people have tried to cram into an area which doesn't have resources to sustain them. The entire planet has capacity for billions more humans, possibly even trillions.

I suppose you're right. My front room could be converted into a bedroom. We could fit two people in there if we put in bunkbeds.





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stovelid wrote: »

I'd just be afraid that when I lost my faculties, my choice of geriatric facilities wouldn't be great. At least a kid can dump you in a decent home.

And there is the genetic lottery: He or she might just become a premiership footballer or tycoon meaning that you can retire early.

Damn, that's cynical.

gypsygirl

Me n the Hubby don't have any but we do spoil our nephews and nieces, great to hand them back though, and we don't have to wake to the sound of screamers unless we have them overnight, , Oh I love lazy weekend mornings.

Captain Chaos

seamus wrote: »

Nonsense. Some parts of the planet are over populated simply because too many people have tried to cram into an area which doesn't have resources to sustain them. The entire planet has capacity for billions more humans, possibly even trillions.

Try and provide the power, water and food for trillions of people. Can't realisticly be done with current technology.

Either way, not interested in having kids at all. If I ever end up with one I don't know what I would do. My parents keep going on about me bring around the future grandkids for christmas and I keep saying it's not going to happen. The look dissapointment is amazing and then the reply of ''ah you say that now, you could go out tomorrow and meet a lovely young woman'', I just laugh.

seamus

If you look at Dublin, it has a population density of roughly 3,000 people per sq. km. And in Dublin, it's not like we're living in people's pockets - we have tonnes of room here.

The habitable land masses of the world has a total population density of 90 people per sq. km. And that's with 7 billion people. So in reality the world's population could hit 140bn and population density would still only be just over half that of Dublin. As Captain Chaos points out, food, water and power become an issue, but we presently create all three of these in a massively wasteful way, so even with current technology, all we'd have to do is use our resources more wisely.

stovelid

Cullen Blue Memento wrote: »

Damn, that's cynical.

They make enthusiastic, if unfocussed, beverage and snack fetchers as well.

Shivers26

I was giving out to my 2 1/2 year old recently for tormenting his cousin and he just looked at me and said 'what is your beef, woman'
#1 Good Reason to have Kids - constant source of entertainment

#2 Good Reason to have kids - Spare Parts

Having children can be a very rewarding experience and they can just melt your heart. Yes, they fight and have stinky nappies and cost a fortune but sure feck it!
Plus I have raised my children to speak correctly - not a bit of baby talk in sight!

Agricola

No, generally dont like kids either. Some of my friends have got married and had afew. When I visit them, I look in amazement at the sheer amount of work they have to get through just to keep everything ticking over in their life. Kids are alot of work. It would be great if you could just get 17 yr old kids somewhere like ebay maybe.

bronte

Christ No!

1)I like my freedom....I can do what I want when I want
2)I value silence and peace in my life.
3)They do not fit in with everything I want to do in the future.
4)I don't enjoy being pissed on and shat on, and if I did I'd find a fetish club that caters for such.
5)I get high blood pressure around kids.
6)The whole "schooling them" nightmare.
7)Having to essentially spend the equivalent of a mortgage on each one.
8)Physically having to have them. :eek:
9)Giving birth...you must be feckin joking. :eek:
10) The possibility of having to undergo an episiotomy. Nuff said.

Mike 1972

Why do people assume that space (or food) are the sole constraints on a sustainable population level ?

I babysit for a couple of friends fairly regularly and love playing with their kids but only because I know at the end of the evening I can sit into my car and get the hell out of there.

BraziliaNZ

ideally in about 15 years, a son will turn up who's studying medicine, is really handsome and clever, and was the product of some fling I've had in the past, but the mother never wanted him to meet me for some reason or another. And she is now dead. And I have a nice doctor son.

orourkeda

Very young kids and toddlers are c*nts.

Teenagers. They're c*nts too. Especially the ones that sing in choirs, play rugby and collect for charity.

The kids in between are c*nts also.

Therefore we can assume that all kids are c*nts and I would rather have my scrotum crushed in my senses than be responsible for bringing a c*nt of any description into the universe

Malari

Hate 'em. Never having any. Luckily I have a man who thinks the same way. I think his mother resents me for not being a grandkid-factory.

ibarelycare

I have two 3-year-old nephews, who I love, but I don't like any other kids and don't know if I want my own. I'm way too selfish and spoilt for kids anyway. My boyfriend and I were talking about kids recently and I said "If we had kids would you love them more than you love me ?" It might all change in the future though. If I got pregnant accidentally I'd keep it and just have to get used to it I guess.

orourkeda

ibarelycare wrote: »

I have two 3-year-old nephews, who I love, but I don't like any other kids and don't know if I want my own. I'm way too selfish and spoilt for kids anyway. My boyfriend and I were talking about kids recently and I said "If we had kids would you love them more than you love me ?" It might all change in the future though. If I got pregnant accidentally I'd keep it and just have to get used to it I guess.

Isnt emotional blackmail wonderful?

6th

Little Miss 6th is 5 and 6th jnr is 2.

Captain Chaos

ibarelycare wrote: »

I said "If we had kids would you love them more than you love me ?".

What kind of a head wreck, mind game question is that? There's no, right reasonable response a man can give to that and have his ball bag in one piece.

ibarelycare

Captain Chaos wrote: »

What kind of a head wreck, mind game question is that? There's no, right reasonable response a man can give to that and have his ball bag in one piece.

He knew it wasn't a serious question, I was just highlighting to him the reasons I probably shouldn't have children!



He said no, of course he'd love me more

seamus

ibarelycare wrote: »

I said "If we had kids would you love them more than you love me ?"

I'm going to save you the uncertainty here: The answer is yes. Parents love their children more than they love eachother.

stovelid

ibarelycare wrote: »

'm way too selfish and spoilt for kids anyway.

Don't worry: being completely selfish doesn't preclude you form having children from what I've seen.

midlandsmissus

I thought I wanted children until I recently spent a wknd with a friend with a baby, and decided maybe I don't want them quite so soon!

It was a wknd of MUSH. Mushy food everywhere, mushy poo everywhere, sticky stuff all over me everywhere.

My friend talked about him non-stop for 24 hours. When he got a pan on the floor and started loudly banging on it, she smiled and said 'he's gonna be a musician!' Aghhhh! No he''s being an annoying loud little brat!

If I ever have a baby hopefully I don't get the awful infliction that is baby brain.

ibarelycare

seamus wrote: »

I'm going to save you the uncertainty here: The answer is yes. Parents love their children more than they love eachother.

But but but....I'm so loveable

Of COURSE I know that parents love their kids more than anything...I even love my nephews more than anyone else in the world...it was just a joke

Mike 1972

stovelid wrote: »

Don't worry: being completely selfish doesn't preclude you form having children from what I've seen.

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AnonoBoy

ibarelycare wrote: »

But but but....I'm so loveable

Of COURSE I know that parents love their kids more than anything...I even love my nephews more than anyone else in the world...it was just a joke

Actually that's another thing, once you become a parent you stop getting jokes.

True story.

seamus

ibarelycare wrote: »

But but but....I'm so loveable

Of COURSE I know that parents love their kids more than anything...I even love my nephews more than anyone else in the world...it was just a joke

To ba fair, power struggles aren't all that uncommon with male or female parents becoming jealous or resentful because their child seems to usurp their position.

You'll often hear women say that they want a little boy so that they can still be their husband's "little princess".

Malari

ibarelycare wrote: »

Of COURSE I know that parents love their kids more than anything...I even love my nephews more than anyone else in the world...it was just a joke

I still think it's a valid reason for not wanting kids!

enda1

Loads of kids!

4 is a good number I think. 3 to 5 anyway.
Just gotta convince the girlfriend.

stovelid

midlandsmissus wrote: »

My friend talked about him non-stop for 24 hours.

She didn't even let you go to bed or leave for 24 hours?

That's awful.

NothingMan

I definitely do at some point. At least 2, maybe 3. The gf not so much. She hasn't grown up around kids nor is she particularly maternal, and I suppose she'd be the one squeezing 'em out of her. I wouldn't mind adoption or somehting but I know we'd have some good looking kids.

citizen_p

yeah at some point.....financial strain is bad though when you have them

sheep-go-baa

Never ever having kids! Had my cousin over the other day, he picks up an apple chews it a bit and then starts mashing it into the floor i just cleaned, ahh! All the while his mom looks on saying 'Isn't he going to be such a boy' NO he's going to be out of control!

rossie1977

seamus wrote: »

Nonsense. Some parts of the planet are over populated simply because too many people have tried to cram into an area which doesn't have resources to sustain them. The entire planet has capacity for billions more humans, possibly even trillions.

i have read that everyone currently on planet earth could live in an area the size of texas, a family of 4 could have a house and garden

pablomakaveli

I've no intention of having kids for the next 10 years at least. But if i ever do i'll do a better job raising them than the "a sure let them run amok,their only kids" type of parents.

DubMedic

seamus wrote: »

If you look at Dublin, it has a population density of roughly 3,000 people per sq. km. And in Dublin, it's not like we're living in people's pockets - we have tonnes of room here.

The habitable land masses of the world has a total population density of 90 people per sq. km. And that's with 7 billion people. So in reality the world's population could hit 140bn and population density would still only be just over half that of Dublin. As Captain Chaos points out, food, water and power become an issue, but we presently create all three of these in a massively wasteful way, so even with current technology, all we'd have to do is use our resources more wisely.

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aidan24326

seamus wrote: »

Nonsense. Some parts of the planet are over populated simply because too many people have tried to cram into an area which doesn't have resources to sustain them. The entire planet has capacity for billions more humans, possibly even trillions.

No way Seamus. We may have the land area to support billions more people, but we sure as hell don't have the resources. Not right now anyway, and not in the foreseeable future either.

seamus wrote: »

As Captain Chaos points out, food, water and power become an issue, but we presently create all three of these in a massively wasteful way, so even with current technology, all we'd have to do is use our resources more wisely.

Yes there's no denying that our resources (especially food but energy aswell) are utilised very wastefully. But to change all of that would require innovative, forward-thinking governments capable of seeing past the next election. And good luck with finding even one of those.

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Why do people assume that space (or food) are the sole constraints on a sustainable population level ?

Space isn't (not yet anyway). But food and energy resources most certainly are major constraints. How could they not be? Increase the world population to 30 billion and without fundamental changes in how we all live and do business, all you'll do is greatly increase the number of people starving and living in poverty. It's as simple as that.

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

ideally in about 15 years, a son will turn up who's studying medicine, is really handsome and clever, and was the product of some fling I've had in the past, but the mother never wanted him to meet me for some reason or another. And she is now dead. And I have a nice doctor son.

Now you're talking! Kinda like a handy fast-forward button.

Personally I don't think I really want any, unless I just had one because my wife/gf wanted it, and I'm surprised at the number of others who say they don't want one either (though some might change their minds in time no doubt). I watch my sister chasing around after 3 small kids 24 hours per day and I think no thank you.

orourkeda

No baby Jimmy Son of a b*tch for me.

CrazyRabbit

I wouldn't mind having a dozen or so kids.

Of course I need to get me a missus first!

Any key?

I work with kids they really do brighten up my day. I couldn't imagine my life without any kids.

Would love a big family, I'd love lots of little boys(my own little football team) but probably won't be able to afford it

Biggins

I never saw myself with kids.
Now that I have 4 of them though, I can't imagine life without them.
Each to their own though.

Excuse me now
- I have to go get one off the top of a bunk bed, the buggers about to jump - thinks he can fly.
- One is playing with the kitchen knives while the youngest rug-rat is trying to chew the wires to the Christmas tree lights!

Decisions, decisions... Which one first!

(The forth one is ok, she's outside playing with the traffic)

NothingMan

Biggins wrote: »

I never saw myself with kids.
Now that I have 4 of them though, I can't imagine life without them.
Each to their own though.

Excuse me now
- I have to go get one off the top of a bunk bed, the buggers about to jump - thinks he can fly.
- One is playing with the kitchen knives while the youngest rug-rat is trying to chew the wires to the Christmas tree lights!

Decisions, decisions... Which one first!

(The forth one is ok, she's outside playing with the traffic)

Well i'd leave the bed jumper til last cos if you're anything like me you'd just put another mattress on the ground and start jumping with him.

Biggins

NothingMan wrote: »

Well i'd leave the bed jumper til last cos if you're anything like me you'd just put another mattress on the ground and start jumping with him.

You know me don't you! :eek:

:pac:

jape

Why is it always fat girls who are desperate for kids , anyone notice this ?

Biggins

jape wrote: »

Why is it always fat girls who are desperate for kids, anyone notice this ?

:eek:
Aaa no.