Cold Spell Discussion (21/12/09) (Scattered snow showers today)

ninebeanrows

Continue here please....:rolleyes:;)

Staying chilly up until Christmas with a breakdown likely on Stephens day, although the long term outlook isn't exactly mild.

Enjoy the snow if you got some.

GoldenGreen

Begining to snow in Letterkenny again

philstar

mild scattering of snow in east clare, very overcast

mad DIY

From last thread, which closed as I tryed to save my post

Deep Easterly wrote: »

I don't want to sound flippant but what disturbed me was the death of at least 15 homeless people who froze to death in Poland. What disturbed me even more was watching middle class drop outs, doing da dreadlock ting yeah.., protesting about Climate Change all wrapped up in their expensive gear while real people with no one to fight or speak up them die from the cold in horrific circumstances.

The world we live is fecking crazy sometimes. :(:(

My comment wasn't meant in a climate change sort of way. Just that this cold spell is not the usual. Like 1982 wasn't usual

GismoBaby

GoldenGreen wrote: »

Begining to snow in Letterkenny again

ya its bad alright here in letterkenny! snow was so bad saturday nite I couldnt get home as the bus wouldnt drive me, left standed half an hour outside letterkenny - teach me to out in the middle of nowhere when its threatened to snow!
Schools all closed today here - first snow day of 2009, wondering is this the start of the school hols now!

Tactical

Snowing in West Limerick since 0953 and still going

Here's two shots from this morning

Deep Easterly

mad DIY wrote: »

From last thread, which closed as I tryed to save my post



My comment wasn't meant in a climate change sort of way. Just that this cold spell is not the usual. Like 1982 wasn't usual

I wasn't implying that is was Mad DIY:) My comment above is just a personal observation. I know other's would argue that this cold snap does not prove anything, and they would be right, but Climate Change advocates seem to be more focused on a conceptual future rather than a real and immediate present.

force eleven

Wouldn't be surprised to see an ice day or 2 before this spell ends. If anywhere gets fog, or freezing fog more likely, it'll be very difficult to shift. While Christmas day look like the transition day, everything past that is too difficult to call, we could still end up back in the cold weather again.

francosp

Sigh,

Another day, another no snow event... I'm becoming disillusioned with this weather. Seems everyone but Dublin is getting something in the way of the white stuff...

ninebeanrows

So much potential wasted as that low just sits and sits and decays over Scotland, so annoying.

maquiladora

Any talk about the models? 0Z ECM doesn't show much of a breakdown and now the 06Z GFS only shows a kinda breakdown and then bring the cold back in after Xmas. :pac:

francosp

Weathercheck wrote: »

So much potential wasted as that low just sits and sits and decays over Scotland, so annoying.

I know, Ive been glued to raintoday over the last few days, looks like so much potential snow, however they just dont make it down this way.

I suppose there is no chance of an Easterly kicking in to bring us some snow on the East coast ?

Deep Easterly

Weathercheck wrote: »

So much potential wasted as that low just sits and sits and decays over Scotland, so annoying.

Troughing, or should I say, lack of it, has been the main feature of this event. In a normal troughing situation those showers would readily descend down over the country. Everything just seems a little bit slack due to the flabby LP,

If it is any comfort, there is sod all happening here as well. Any lying snow is thawing and it just feels cold. Roads are still lethal though.

thecretinhop

Christmas day not looking to good for me bet, Dublin wet by the looks.. Belfast looks better though..

maquiladora

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Troughing, or should I say, lack of it, has been the main feature of this event. In a normal troughing situation those showers would readily descend down over the country. Everything just seems a little bit slack due to the flabby LP,

If it is any comfort, there is sod all happening here as well. Any lying snow is thawing and it just feels cold. Roads are still lethal though.

Yep, too flabby and moving too slowly (reminds me of Xmas day binge on a tin of sweets, heh). Looks like the models got it right.

Still though, as long as it stays cold and FI is only always a few days away then there is always potential. :pac:

WolfeIRE

francosp wrote: »

I know, Ive been glued to raintoday over the last few days, looks like so much potential snow, however they just dont make it down this way.

I suppose there is no chance of an Easterly kicking in to bring us some snow on the East coast ?

Well an Easterly or Northeasterly is the only thing that will stop the warmer Atlantic from taking over. I would not rule out anything at this stage. The ECM as Maquiladora says does not indicate much oF a breakdown while the GFS shows that it doesn't warm up considerably. This would indicate that there will still be battlelines between cold and warm close to Ireland.

ongarboy

snowing again in Tralee right now on top of the frozen ice and slush from yesterday- mountains totally covered. roads lethal.

ninebeanrows

Just a heads up that this spell aint over yet.

Sleet/Snow showers will continue across the north and west today and tomorrow with a sharp frost. The perhaps a trough features moving up from the south during Wednesday with some models developing a low pressure system to swing up from the south and move east by Thursday.

Lots of interesting things ahead i just suppose today and tomorrow looks a little bit boring and stagnent.

But don't give up on snow falling from this spell if ya live in Dublin, another 4 days of hoping at least. And decent chances come Wednesday/Thursday.

Graces7

Snowing heavily up here now. There was some during the night also. Looks very dark now.

There is a field at the back and even this morning I was in over my wellies.

francosp

WolfeIRE wrote: »

Well an Easterly or Northeasterly is the only thing that will stop the warmer Atlantic from taking over. I would not rule out anything at this stage. The ECM as Maquiladora says does not indicate much oF a breakdown while the GFS shows that it doesn't warm up considerably. This would indicate that there will still be battlelines between cold and warm close to Ireland.

Latest update on RTE say that there is much milder weather on the way from St. Stephens day onwards. Hope they're wrong.

irish1967

I dont believeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it.. I don't fecking believe it... Snowing heavy here in Donegal Town... woohooo first snow in 2 days !! :):):)

ninebeanrows

Agonising to see the 20 flakes that fell still intact on the ground.

Even if we had of had really light snow we would have had a decent cover!

Deep Easterly

irish1967 wrote: »

I dont believeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it.. I don't fecking believe it... Snowing heavy here in Donegal Town... woohooo first snow in 2 days !! :):):)

Congrats Irish! Are you still chain smoking?

WolfeIRE

From RTE - "In Ballinamore, Co Leitrim, 15cm of snow was reported overnight.":eek:

Leitrim don't win much but they definitely are contenders now for the All Ireland Snow Hoarding Championships.

ch750536

Stopped snowing again but then, who cares?

WolfeIRE

ch750536 wrote: »

Stopped snowing again but then, who cares?

Nice one ch750536

What's crappy about this for me though is that the exact same clouds passed over my head and didn't drop one flake. They moved 15 miles due south across the estuary to you, picked up a bit of attitude on the way, and gave you that. Enjoy it. That bog/forest pic is really good. Like the Ardennes in Band of Brothers

billy the squid

West kerry looks like its going to get pasted with snow.

irish1967

Eased off slightly but still going. makes such a difference when the bands are coming from the north and not in off the sea !! Next band in an hour.. I hope... singing "band on the run.. band on the run":)

nacho libre

force eleven wrote: »

Wouldn't be surprised to see an ice day or 2 before this spell ends. If anywhere gets fog, or freezing fog more likely, it'll be very difficult to shift. While Christmas day look like the transition day, everything past that is too difficult to call, we could still end up back in the cold weather again.

if mt cranium is correct it'll be somewhat milder after christmas until around the 10th of january. his winter forecast has been spot on so far.

ch750536

billy the squid wrote: »

West kerry looks like its going to get pasted with snow.

Dunno, is turning to a southerly and thawing now.

Popoutman

The drive up form Castletroy to Galway was "fun".
Warmed up the car from 06.15 onwards, scraping the snow and ice off the car instead of the hot water, as the water would have re-frozen and the rest of the residents would not be happy with that.
Limerick had a decent 4cm or so of snow in the city centre, so a nice easy 20kmh through the streets.
Shannon had a similar coverage, with the grey lines from traffic not having cleared to the road surface yet - slippery to say the least - and clear under the bridges.
Ennis bypass had less traffic but a similar snow load. It's not fun being overtaken by a madman in a Landcruiser doing over 80 kmh on the frozen mush in the overtaking lane when I was having enough trouble staying stable at 35-40 kmh on the driving line that was there.
Crusheen to Gort was the most difficult as the sleet took over, and the road surface became slush over ice.
Gort onwards was perfect for travel. From Gort to Galway, there was less than a dusting on the ground, and the overnight salting could actually work.
However, the side road to oranmore, and the carpark in the industrial estate were actual ice sheets. I parked the car, and had a really hard time getting mobile on the ice. More slippery than some icerinks I've been on.

Thawing a bit up here in Galway this morning, but I see a large snow shower off to the northwest that appears to be dumping a lot of stuff over the Oughterard direction.

Take care out there

force eleven

nacho libre wrote: »

if mt cranium is correct it'll be somewhat milder after christmas until around the 10th of january. his winter forecast has been spot on so far.

He could be right, it's as good as anyones forecast. The models don't even know up to Friday what'll happen for sure. If the Atlantic SW'lies get in, then its goodnight Vienna for a while potentially to cold weather. I don't relish that,and neither will those affected by Novembers heavy rain, but we'll see who wins out. I am disappointed that it doesn't like there'll be a battleground scenario between mild and cold,which can often lead to heavy snow. Then again,this time yesterday,there looked likely to be, so who knows? I get a headache sometimes with this stuff....:D

WolfeIRE

Still like the new zealand guy's prediction. Can't wait for march 2nd:p

http://homework.blogs.ie/2009/09/15/long-term-weather-forecast-for-ireland/

Made on sept 15.

September 15, 2009
A man called Ken Ring from New Zealand is often on the radio here in Ireland doing weather predictions He predicted the very wet 2009 Irish summer and the nice September weather back in March 2009.
I heard him give a brief forecast summary for the next few months. It will be interesting to see how accurate he is. He even specifies certain days for snow or frost - not just weeks.
Sept 2009 mostly dry and warm until Sept 21 when there will be some heavy rain.
There will also be more rain in the first week of October 2009 .
From 23rd November - to 26th Nov it will be cold with frost and possibly snow.
9th to 23rd Decenber - a dry period from with a cold spell around December 11th Not a White Christmas though..
January 2010 will bring havy rain from 14-18th and a dry cold spell between Jan 20 - 31.
Early February will also be very cold.
He predicted snow on March 2nd 2010 and even snow as late as April 14th.
The warm weather will be back from late May early June 2010

Kippure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b5rcamAVm8

This will give you a laugh. "Snow reports".

Met Eireann Receives Reports Of Snow Across Ireland (Winter 2009-10)

howlinwolf

disapointed that it seems the mild air will sweep in so easily around christmas day,i was hopin that there would be a bit of a battle between the two air masses right over ireland with real potenial for some heavy snow...........how come met eireann are so sure the mild air is gonna sweep in so quick and easy while still a few days away....can it still change?

Graces7

That was awesome.... A complete white out. A little grapeshot, but mostly large flakes.

The dogs and I went crazy out there,,,,

And every branch and twig has a thick layer of snow; about an inch.

Breathtakingly beautiful; and from the sky, more to come.

The wee birds are coming in to feed in droves

ch750536

take it back, is moderately snowing again.

WolfeIRE

BBC Monthly outlook

Monday 21 December 2009 to Sunday 27 December 2009
Staying cold but snow risk easing

Christmas week is expected to be appropriately cold with widespread frosts at night. We will also experience some very low daytime temperaures during the early and middle part of the week, becoming a little less cold by the big day itself. The risk of snow eases off by the middle of the week, but by that stage we could see some dense fog which may be difficult to shift. Consequently some places could be very cold. Whether or not fog becomes a problem, with parts of the Midlands, northern Engalnd and southern Scotland struggling to get much above freezing. Christmas Eve and Christmas Day look to be days of sunny spells and showers. The showers mostly of rain around the coasts, but a little sleet and snow is likely in inland areas, so a white Christmas for some. It looks as if a deep Atlantic low will move in from the west on Boxing Day, wind, rain and less cold weather setting in during the weekend.

Monday 28 December 2009 to Sunday 3 January 2010
Unsettled

Low pressure to the northwest of Ireland will keep things unsettled across our shores. We can all expect some rain some of which will be heavy, in fact many areas can expect more than their fair share of rain. Temperatures will be a bit below average but not as cold as recently. Northeast England will probably see the best of the sunshine.

Monday 4 January 2010 to Sunday 17 January 2010
Still unsettled, still cold

Low pressure remains centered to the northwest of the UK, generating a west or soutwesterly airflow. That will keep a succession of various bands of rain moving through with brighter, showery spells in between. Rainfall amounts generally above average. Sunshine amounts should be close to average while temperatures will still be a bit below normal for most parts.

Next week

More Snow for late January?

Cian92

It's snowing very slightly here in Cork! This is great!

munsterlegend

Cian92 wrote: »

It's snowing very slightly here in Cork! This is great!

where in cork are you?

irish1967

Following my little red bobs again on raintoday.co.uk... next one should be hitting me about 12.30..

Graces7 u must be directly north of me about 3-5 miles.. you are getting hit minutes before me.

Graces7

More snow starting; big flakes....WOW

irish1967

ok.. timing it till I see my first flake Graces

Edit: just popped outside.. can see your shower but i think its gonna just miss me here

Graces7

I hear you Irish!!! lol

But not continuing much here; I knew at Advent when we had a little snow that we are above the snow line here.

irish1967 wrote: »

ok.. timing it till I see my first flake Graces

Cian92

munsterlegend wrote: »

where in cork are you?

Near Blarney, but its stopped again so...

thecretinhop

I have to admit this thread is a great laugh, well done to all on keeping it updated, its funny at the moment as many of us (including me have had no snow) so we all spend hours in vain looking at patterns and clouds etc, and nothing happens, ah well, im always the optimist, If you build it it will come;)

Graces7

Just 3.5 miles from Town northwards.. where the houses have stopped and the Blue Stacks take over...

irish1967 wrote: »

Following my little red bobs again on raintoday.co.uk... next one should be hitting me about 12.30..

Graces7 u must be directly north of me about 3-5 miles.. you are getting hit minutes before me.

irish1967

Know the road well.. often head up to Lettertrane on that road

Pangea

I have a question , Met eireann gave -4 for tonight ,
and it gives -9 air tempertures for wednesday night,
Is it air tempertures what they always use in the forecast even when they dont label it "air", is tonights -4 ground or air tempertures?

10-10-20

Somebody posted a link to a Norwegian site which gave a very good view of the cloud cover over Europe.
I can't find it now! Anybody have the link?

(It wasn't SAT24 Btw...)

WolfeIRE

10-10-20 wrote: »

Somebody posted a link to a Norwegian site which gave a very good view of the cloud cover over Europe.
I can't find it now! Anybody have the link?

(It wasn't SAT24 Btw...)

might have been the dundee station (yes i know its in scotland ). you have to register. its free and only takes a min
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/auth.html