Whats the general consensus on reclining airplane seats?

dr gonzo

Personally i cant stand when someone puts the seat back into my legs but then again im a somewhat lanky bastard to begin with.

What do people think?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I think you should avoid Ryanair.

starbelgrade

Amputation. Problem solved.

dr gonzo

Oh i do enjoy the ryanair flights, thankfully theyre usually short ones.

Ruu_Old

Get rid of them altogether, there are too many people who don't have common courtesy on planes. I'll just stand thank you very much, maybe a bar to hold onto.

oppenheimer1

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I think you should avoid Ryanair.

Ryanair seats don't recline

easyeason3

I'm quite chuffed when the plane lands without exploding so do what you want with the seat once you don't decide to strap explosives to it.

Glico Man

Weren't Ryanair looking into removing seats altogether and just having some sort of backboard while you stood for the journey to increase the capacity of their planes?

That would solve the problem, but create a multitude of new ones

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Ryanair seats don't recline

If you're tall, I don't think it matters.

SoulTrader

Can't stand it when some midget short arse in front of me insists on reclining back into my knees. But like the OP, I've got legs to spare.

I always wonder then - what if the person behind me was in front of me? Would they be inconsiderate? Should I teach them a lesson and recline into them, on the assumption that they would do the same to me? I normally recline an inch or so and then stop.

But if the people behind start banging my chair too much, I'll recline it inch by inch until they stop. My, I am petty.

dr gonzo

SoulTrader wrote: »

Can't stand it when some midget short arse in front of me insists on reclining back into my knees. But like the OP, I've got legs to spare.

I always wonder then - what if the person behind me was in front of me? Would they be inconsiderate? Should I teach them a lesson and recline into them, on the assumption that they would do the same to me? I normally recline an inch or so and then stop.

But if the people behind start banging my chair to much, I'll recline it inch by inch until they stop. My, I am petty.

Thats pretty much my MO on a plane too.

Agricola

Hate it too. On a 3 hour flight from Italy (Aer Lingus), the bint in front of me practically had her head in my lap (and not in the good way) the whole time. Only raised it to stuff her face with food for 10 minutes and then reclined it again. When i looked around at most of the rows in front of me, hers was the only reclined seat. :mad:

Apart from business class, recliners should go.

starbelgrade

Agricola wrote: »

Hate it too. On a 3 hour flight from Italy (Aer Lingus), the bint in front of me practically had her head in my lap (and not in the good way) the whole time. Only raised it to stuff her face with food for 10 minutes and then reclined it again. When i looked around at most of the rows in front of me, hers was the only reclined seat. :mad:

Apart from business class, recliners should go.

Then move to business class & avoid the plebs.

jameson4me

i reckon you pay for the seat, recline if you want. id never stop someone in front of me doin it so therefore ill do it if i wish unless the person behind is tryin to eat. if they ask me to move it up i probably will and if they have a bit of an attitiude they can go swivel

scotchy

This is one of those things that really bugs me, but I’ve never really given much thought to it till I hear someone else giving out about it, I hope that makes sense.

I’ve done a lot of air travel this year and I reckon its only short people recline their seats ( I’m 6‘2“). I was on a BMI flight to Dublin from London six weeks ago and witnessed a guy physically restrain the seat in front of him from being reclined, to the point the person in the seat started banging their body back and forth into the seat to try and make it go back thinking it was broke.

I have nothing but hatred and contempt for people in aircraft who recline their seats.

And breathe.....AAAAHHHH...


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Novella

I think it's really rude. You're not in your living room. If you wanna be in my space, pay for two fcuking seats.

jameson4me

I have nothing but hatred and contempt for people in aircraft who recline their seats.

And breathe.....AAAAHHHH...


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id love to sit in front of you:D

brendansmith

starbelgrade wrote: »

Then move to business class & avoid the plebs.

jameson4me

Novella wrote: »

I think it's really rude. You're not in your living room. If you wanna be in my space, pay for two fcuking seats.

dont agree at all.
if i pay for the seat ill put it back if i want. why would i pay for two

Neonjack

This poll is missing an option -
Yes, I agree that you've paid for the right to incline your seat on this hot, sweaty, noisy, cramped flight from hell, where I can't afford a bottle of water because I spent all my money on cheap drink and steak and I'll probably have to walk from the airport to a petrol station where I can beg for refreshment and the 200 euro I need to get my car out of the car park, so if you lean back once more onto my knees which are a blaze of agony thanks to the constant falling between the twin beds that european hotels insist on, no matter how many times you ring to confirm that you're getting a double bed, then I shall slit your throat with the in flight magazine and stuff your body into the overhead compartment and risk being charged for excess luggage, you inconsiderate, failure to grasp the concept 'we're all in this together', selfish p*ick.

Just a thought.

SoulTrader

jameson4me wrote: »

I have nothing but hatred and contempt for people in aircraft who recline their seats.

And breathe.....AAAAHHHH...


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id love to sit in front of you:D

I'd love to sit behind you! (not that way)

Novella

jameson4me wrote: »

dont agree at all.
if i pay for the seat ill put it back if i want. why would i pay for two

Because you are reclining into someone else's space? I dunno. I just think it's completely selfish and personally, I'd never do it on a flight, but hey, we're all different.

jameson4me

true true... never bothered me if someone in front reclined probably coz i was reclined when the did it.

dr gonzo

Im a big fan of the tv in seat back scenario. Youre on a ten hour flight and all you can do is watch a selection of three eps of Frasier over and over when the person in front decides to recline for the next 9 hours rendering your entertainment(meagre though it was) obsolete.

Doc

I said no because on must flights I wouldn’t but on long haul flights I will recline it slightly to something like 80º instead of 90º. I think if you’re going to sleep on a plain then its only fair that you should be allowed to recline your set slightly. I don’t mean the whole amount because that doesn’t provide any space for the person behind you. It is obvious that the chairs have been designed to have more space between them by the lack of space when someone reclines there chair fully.

Also when people try and recline their chairs in front of me I will let them get a cretin distance before wedging my knees into the back of the chair so they cant go any further.

I once had a guy look around the back of his chair to see why it wasn’t going any further. He looked at my knees wedged into the back of his seat then gave me an angry look. I smiled and waved at him.

Another time when I didn’t get my legs up fast enough to stop the person from reclining I waited till they went to the bathroom and then adjusted their chair to a reasonable position. I don’t think they even noticed when they got back.

kumate_champ07

aaronh007 wrote: »

Weren't Ryanair looking into removing seats altogether and just having some sort of backboard while you stood for the journey to increase the capacity of their planes?

That would solve the problem, but create a multitude of new ones

no.

what ryanair do every so often is come up with some wacky controversial idea to cut costs that they will never use, its just how they do PR. people will go their site after its been on the news and find that theres a sale on and will spend their money on flights.

they never pay for ads. they do pay for newspaper 'notices' tho, usually to have a dig at the government or aerlingus

consultech

Grrrrrrrr... Deep breaths. Deep breaths. Deep breaths... It's my biggest and ultimate pet peeve when flying:

I've nearly had to be restrained when complete and utter fuckwits slam back into my knees on flights. I'm not exaggerating, nor do I have anger issues ordinarily.

I was surrounded by a large Arab family on my way from Abu Dhabi to London durin the summer, and I was in disbelief at some of the blatent disregard on display. From Grandad wrapping his filthy foot around my girlfriends chair up on to her arm-rest before I got involved, to mother yoyo'ing her seat in front. I don't think I've ever been closer to dropkicking a woman. Absolutely zero consideration.

It started from the second she sat down (before you're even allowed to recline), nearly reaching a head when she decided 2 mins into the in-flight meal that she was done and it was time to slam back down without warning, dumping my meal and drink all over my lap.

I think it's stupid and pointless feature in light of airlines squeezing as many people in as possible, especially on short flights. You get one fucker up the top doin it, resulting in the need for everyone all the way back to recline just to get the requisite space to stave off a claustrophobic panic attack.


EDIT: I actually think this debate will demonstrate very accurately the 2 types of people out there: Those born with common courtesy and consideration; and those who are going to die a slow and painful death at my hands. Sorry, I mean those who are "paying for the privilege" and think nothing about doing mind-bogglingly downright rude things like reclining plane seats/skipping queues/insisting on screaming into their mobiles on busses etc/letting their kids take the absolute piss in public/stopping on yellow grids in traffic etc etc.

sam34

i f***ing hate it when peopel recline their seats on planes.

its rude and inconsiderate. the space is small enough to begin with, without some moron invading youe presonal space.

if anyone does it to me, i always repeatedly cross and uncross my legs, banging my knees into theor seat, until they get the message.

i could always just politely ask them not to do it, but they're so ignorant they probably wouldnt respond anyway, plus i hate confrontation

Columbia

I'm not particularly tall (5'9) so someone reclining the seat in front doesn't bother me. I don't usually recline my own seat though, if I need to sleep I just sit forward and lean my head against the seat in front. It's pretty much the only way I've ever managed to sleep on a plane or bus, but my girlfriend has recently told me it doesn't look normal :P

Evolute

Normally when I'm getting on a plane I get loads of drink in me so I sleep through the flight cause they are boring as hell.
But the last time I was sober on a plane the guy in front who was only about 5ft 4 started to recline his chair I kindly stood up and asked him to un recline the seat quite possibly as nicely as I have ever asked anyone anything and he replied with "why should I?" and I told him because I would knock his rude ass out because he should have some consideration for somebody with legs as long as mine.
I'm 6ft1 and thats pretty much the main reason I drink so the pressure knocks me out. Needless to say he put his seat back up but then told the flight attendant that I had threatened him and she replied why?. He explained the situation and she said to him that it was rude to recline his seat seeming as my knees where already hitting the back of his seat before it was reclined. I was so happy with what she said I called her over and gave her a tenner for being sound about it:p.
Now on long haul flights when someone wants a bit of kip I can tottally understand that and have no problem with someone reclining their seat because I don't expect anyone to sleep with their seat 90 degrees. But If someone just wants to recline their seat because they can they deserve a slap across the head.
Also for anyone who has said that they paid for a seat so why shouldnt they recline it check the person sitting behind you if they are tall dont be a cock remember the person behind you paid for a seat too and if they are small there is no problems.

Xavi6

I do a fair few long distance flights so love nothing better than to kick back with good movie to pass the time. I'll be f*cked if I'm gonna worry about some moany bastard behind me who can do the same thing but just chooses not to. Who wants to spend 8 to 10 hours sitting like they've a pole up their arse?

Gonzales

I mostly fly long haul & always always recline as far as it will go to get comfortable during the permitted times. Just as the person in front of me is able to do without objection from me.

The seats and the seat space are designed to allow passengers to recline to x degree then why not use it?

A lot of posters above are of the belief that they own the space in front of them, this is clearly not the case as a reclining seat infers a right of way for the person in front.

It's the way passenger aircraft are designed.
If you don't like I don't think there is much you can really do except appealing to the person in front (or fly Ryanair as pointed out above), I don't think that space is "your space" & thinking about it in terms of "my space" will just get your temper up, not a great idea on a plane in this day & age.

Happy flying.:)

Evolute

Gonzales wrote: »

I mostly fly long haul & always always recline as far as it will go to get comfortable during the permitted times. Just as the person in front of me is able to do without objection from me.

The seats and the seat space are designed to allow passengers to recline to x degree then why not use it?

A lot of posters above are of the belief that they own the space in front of them, this is clearly not the case as a reclining seat infers a right of way for the person in front.

It's the way passenger aircraft are designed.
If you don't like I don't think there is much you can really do except appealing to the person in front (or fly Ryanair as pointed out above), I don't think that space is "your space" & thinking about it in terms of "my space" will just get your temper up, not a great idea on a plane in this day & age.

Happy flying.:)

If your flying short distance do you still recline?

Gonzales

Evolute wrote: »

If your flying short distance do you still recline?

If I feel like it, yes I will, same rules apply.

Evolute

Gonzales wrote: »

If I feel like it, yes I will, same rules apply.

Now if the person is short thats fair enough but If you reclined it back and say someone asked you to un recline it to an extent so you werent squishing their knees would you have a problem with doing so because from personal experiance even if I recline my seat fully my knees will still be quite un comfortably lodged in the back of the chair if the chair infront is fully reclined

The same question to anyone who said they recline regardless

inforfun

Somehow i always end up with some muppet in front of me who reclines. Doesnt matter if the flight is 10 hours or 10 minutes, they do recline.
And with my 6'2'' it is always a bother.
I can understand but still not appreciate that on a long flight but on a 1 hour flight there is no need to shove your chair into someones kneecaps.

And it always seems the short little arses that feel the need to do this.

Kiera

I hate doing it but sometimes when you're totally wrecked from a long hard week of drinking all you want to do is put it back. I usually do it in stages over a few mins

Dancor

I just dont move my knees so they cant put the chair back to far. Without fail I always have someone in front of me who does it regardless if its a short flight to England or a long haul to Australia.

arybvtcw0eolkf

consultech wrote: »

I was surrounded by a large Arab family on my way from Abu Dhabi to London durin the summer, and I was in disbelief at some of the blatent disregard on display. From Grandad wrapping his filthy foot around my girlfriends chair up on to her arm-rest before I got involved, to mother yoyo'ing her seat in front. I don't think I've ever been closer to dropkicking a woman. Absolutely zero consideration.

Gotta love those Middle Eastern flights - NOT.

I've flown around most of the Middle East and North Africa and buddy, you got off lightly.

Me, l couldn't really give a toss if someone reclines but I hate the fvcker who reclines inch by inch over a ten minute period so I'd normally jam their chair with me knee's and when I decide someone ain't gonna move me I won't be moved for love 'nor money.

Fratton Fred

I will often recline my seat by the smallest possible amount as I find it more comfortable and easier to sleep, but I do so on the basis that a small amount won't affect the person behind me. I hate people who recline their seat the whole way.

There was a lad in front of the guy next to me the other week, as soon as the seatbelt light went off in went his ipod at full volume and back went his seat. He then sat there, leaning forward over his PSP so wasn't even leaning back in his chair.

Eventually the guy behind him got fed up and said something. I#m not sure which annoyed him most, his chair being back, or the sound of his MP3 player:mad:

Kiera

Dalary Damp Drywall wrote: »

Gotta love those Middle Eastern flights - NOT.

I've flown around most of the Middle East and North Africa and buddy, you got off lightly.

Me, l couldn't really give a toss if someone reclines but I hate the fvcker who reclines inch by inch over a ten minute period so I'd normally jam their chair with me knee's and when I decide someone ain't gonna move me I won't be moved for love 'nor money.

Haha thats me I dont wanna just pop it back so i do it slowly.

Pepe LeFrits

Novella wrote: »

I think it's really rude. You're not in your living room. If you wanna be in my space, pay for two fcuking seats.

You're paying for the seat, not the space. You pay for two fcuking seats.

I don't use it on short flights but long haul I always do. If you're worried that someone in front of you might actually want to sleep on a 7 hour flight, buy a better seat.

easyontheeye

didn't read much of the posts ... but all ill say is f**k you if your legs are too lanky! i'll put my seat back and enjoy ... ooooh yeah

Pompey Magnus

The last flight I was on the woman in front of me decided to let her seat down as soon as she sat down. I sat smugly waiting for the air hostess to tell her to put it up as they did their rounds before take off so imagine my dismay when the air hostess just tottered on past without saying a thing. Luckily the flight was just to London so I didn't have to put up with it for too long.

A couple of months ago however I was on a bus journey and again woman and her boyfriend (I assume) sat in front of me, I'm sitting by myself at the window and the woman in font of me. Anyways soon she decided to let her seat down, as it so happened my knee was up against it when first she tried it, I promptly stuck my second knee against the back of the seat and jammed it upright.

The bus made a stop half way during the journey, the woman and her boyfriend got off to go to the shop, when they returned the woman asked the boyfriend to swap seats with her, I had a funny feeling that I knew what was going to happen so I decided to slide myself into the aisle seat beside me and again behind her and put my knees back behind her seat just in case. Sure enough she tried it again but again to no avail. It was without doubt an uncomfortable journey for me as I kept at least one knee against her seat for a long period of the journey but I would do it all over again. She could easily have taken the aisle seat if she likes her seat back as there would have been no-one behind her, but I decided to not even give her that luxury after she swapped. It was childish revenge admittedly, but I enjoyed it.

NothingMan

Ryanair were right in stopping reclining on their flights. On a short haul day time flight there is absolutely no need for it. I have been on short haul night time flights and everyone reclines so that's fine too.

Never been on a long haul flight, but would I be right in assuming that the planes have a little more leg room so reclining isn't as big a deal?

Been on overnight trains and everyone reclines and it's all good.

On an aerlingus flight to europe if someone reclines in front of me I do the whole moving my legs a lot because they're so jammed up against their chair that I'll make it as uncomfortable for them as it is for me.

Yes you have a reclining seat. Yes you paid for it. Yes you are allowed to recline it. None of this means that you should recline it, especially on a 2 hour flight at 1pm.

FlutterinBantam

Only way is to wait till the party behind has their seatback tray well loaded up.

I was on a flight back from Fuerta some time ago and a trio of gimps early twenties occupied the seats behind,loud fcukers, and obviously planning on drinking their rings off on the flight.

I waited till they got the seatback trays well loaded up and suddenly whacked my seatback as far as it could go.

Skittled about 8 cans of Dorada I would say.

Cnunts went a bit quiet after that;)

funk-you

Why are so many people jamming their knees against the seats and doing childish things. Open your mouth and ask the person not to do it. If they refuse, then get childish.

For a forum where people are always saying we should be cutting the balls off people and sentencing them to death, this thread makes you all sound like timid little children who are afraid to say boo in real life.

OT - Yes you have paid for a seat and yes it does recline but you should try and live your life with a bit of consideration for others. If your back is sore from sitting upright then by all means recline away. Don't just do it because you can.

I can shit on peoples chests when they're asleep. Doesn't mean I'm going to do it.

-Funk

NothingMan

funk-you wrote: »

I can shit on peoples chests when they're asleep. Doesn't mean I'm going to do it.

-Funk

That's completely different. Sh1tting on someone's chest while they sleep is a common courtesy, and it would be rude if you didn't do it.

spoofilyj

I regularly have to get an 8 hour noght flighr to Abu-Dhabi or from there back to Dublin and I think where every one used the seat recline its fine, as every one has the same space once again. For short hail flights though its annoying as hell to have some cow put the seat into your space.

Porkpie

If only there was an option in the poll for 'ask if it's okay first'.

Sleepy

Only do it on long haul flights when everyone else is doing it because it's late. Hate it being done to me on short haul flights and never, ever do it myself.