Bret Hart re-signs with WWE

rossie1977

According to a WWE source who would have full knowledge of the situation, Bret Hart has indeed signed a short-term talent contract with World Wrestling Entertainment,

The WWE Hall of Famer signed the this past week and it will cover the period from 1/1 to 4/10, or through WrestleMania and about two weeks after the 3/28 show at the University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, AZ.

Hart simply told a reliable source that he wasn't going to lie about anything and thus wasn't going to comment on this story.

It was said that Hart wanted his signing to be kept quiet and his return to be a surprise, but that WWE couldn't help itself but all but announced it publicly on the first RAW after the ink was dry.

source: Wrestling Observer

flahavaj

Being discussed in the other thread but yeah, this really deserves its own thread. Huge news. Anyone whos watched wrestling in the last 15 years will surely be glued to the telly for his first appearance. Imagine the pop. They HAVE to do it in Canada.

rossie1977

flahavaj wrote: »

They HAVE to do it in Canada.

and against michaels....:p

waltersobchak

flahavaj wrote: »

Being discussed in the other thread but yeah, this really deserves its own thread. Huge news. Anyone whos watched wrestling in the last 15 years will surely be glued to the telly for his first appearance. Imagine the pop. They HAVE to do it in Canada.

That'd be an epic response, get Byran Adams to do his intro and that'll sow it up big style..

flahavaj

rossie1977 wrote: »

and against michaels....:p

Well I more meant his initial reappearance. How many times has his music hit over the years to an immense pop, only for a midget or no-one at all to come out? An unspoiled Canadian crowd would roar the roof off the building if Bre actually appeared on WWE TV.

rossie1977

no raw or SD either in canada in the foreseeable future (just checked wwe.com), ah well

Black Lead

So Jan 4th 2010 Hulk Hogan on Inpact Vs Bret Hart on Raw, Im just speachless I mean if someone had said this a year ago I would have laughed at them but as Ron Simmons would say Damn.

Things have certainly got interesting and TNA must be worried.

Tricity Bendix

The hissy fit is finally over? Can't believe it.

Terry

Ok, so Dennis Miller sowed the seeds (albeit scripted) last Monday.
Will he guest host Raw?
I'd like to see it. I was never a fan, but it would certainly be interesting. I just hope they don't do the predictable thing and have him screw DX out of the tag titles.

I thought it was a bit insensitive for them to pimp it at the slammys because Owen Hart was was doing the slammy thing when he died. TThen again, Vince never really knows where to draw the line.

flahavaj

Will Jan 4th 2010 be the day that wrestling turned the corner worldwide?

TNA airs with Hulk Hogan making his debut.

WWE reported to have Bret Hart set to debut, as the two biggest companies in America go head to head.

And in Japan, New Japan are running their Tokyo Dome show the biggest show of the year in Japan, and are set to sell 40,000 tickets based on early sales on the back of the NJPW vs NOAH theme.

On the surface yes. But dig a little deeper theres a more depresing story.

WWE and TNA are still reliant on bringing in guys like Hogn and Bret who were at their respective peaks decades ago. And the new Japan card will be headlines by Yoshihiro Takayama, a guy whos in the latter days of his career.

So the news is both encouraging and a bit depressing in equal meaure IMO.

EdK

flahavaj wrote: »

Will Jan 4th 2010 be the day that wrestling turned the corner worldwide?

TNA airs with Hulk Hogan making his debut.

WWE reported to have Bret Hart set to debut, as the two biggest companies in America go head to head.

And in Japan, New Japan are running their Tokyo Dome show the biggest show of the year in Japan, and are set to sell 40,000 tickets based on early sales on the back of the NJPW vs NOAH theme.

On the surface yes. But dig a little deeper theres a more depresing story.

WWE and TNA are still reliant on bringing in guys like Hogn and Bret who were at their respective peaks decades ago. And the new Japan card will be headlines by Yoshihiro Takayama, a guy whos in the latter days of his career.

So the news is both encouraging and a bit depressing in equal meaure IMO.

I see no problem bringing in the likes of hogan or hart as on air characters to TRY to draw more fans, I only see a problem when you have guys in their 50's wrestling on tv or ppv when they are in no shape to do so

this is the kind of shakeup wrestling needs and of it takes the Hitman and the Hulkster to get it done, so be it

waltersobchak

flahavaj wrote: »

Will Jan 4th 2010 be the day that wrestling turned the corner worldwide?

TNA airs with Hulk Hogan making his debut.

WWE reported to have Bret Hart set to debut, as the two biggest companies in America go head to head.

And in Japan, New Japan are running their Tokyo Dome show the biggest show of the year in Japan, and are set to sell 40,000 tickets based on early sales on the back of the NJPW vs NOAH theme.

On the surface yes. But dig a little deeper theres a more depresing story.

WWE and TNA are still reliant on bringing in guys like Hogn and Bret who were at their respective peaks decades ago. And the new Japan card will be headlines by Yoshihiro Takayama, a guy whos in the latter days of his career.

So the news is both encouraging and a bit depressing in equal meaure IMO.

Its the same with everything. Nostalgia sells, people want to remember things from their youth, but the downside, people also get bored of it quickly

flahavaj

EdK wrote: »

I see no problem bringing in the likes of hogan or hart as on air characters to TRY to draw more fans, I only see a problem when you have guys in their 50's wrestling on tv or ppv when they are in no shape to do so

this is the kind of shakeup wrestling needs and of it takes the Hitman and the Hulkster to get it done, so be it

Its just a poor enough indictment of the current generation's superstars, or the way they've been booked, that promoters are still reliant on the stars of the previous generation to try and drum up interest in the product.:(

EdK

flahavaj wrote: »

Its just a poor enough indictment of the current generation's superstars, or the way they've been booked, that promoters are still reliant on the stars of the previous generation to try and drum up interest in the product.:(

True enough but nobody is setting the world alight at the moment,bad booking or not I can't see the next huge star, anytime soon anyway,Wrestling is a nostalgia based business and always will be, in 20yrs will they be bringing back Cena to draw people in? haha

flahavaj

EdK wrote: »

True enough but nobody is setting the world alight at the moment,bad booking or not I can't see the next huge star, anytime soon anyway,Wrestling is a nostalgia based business and always will be, in 20yrs will they be bringing back Cena to draw people in? haha

Judging by recent history he'll probably be dead.:(

EdK

John Cena in 20 years time still wearing jeans shorts but his catchphrase will change to I can't see you

young wrestlers are badly booked and aren't allowed run with the ball, there's alot of potential but I don't see the guy yet who will drag wrestling up by the scruff of the neck

Only guy to get a monster push is Sheamus and I don't agree with the manner or pacing of it but that discussion isn't for here

Tricity Bendix

Hang on, wasn't Backlund brought back to work with the "new breed" like 20 years ago? Using older stars isn't a new phenomenon.

waltersobchak

EdK wrote: »

John Cena in 20 years time still wearing jeans shorts but his catchphrase will change to I can't see you

young wrestlers are badly booked and aren't allowed run with the ball, there's alot of potential but I don't see the guy yet who will drag wrestling up by the scruff of the neck

Only guy to get a monster push is Sheamus and I don't agree with the manner or pacing of it but that discussion isn't for here

Theres only one man to blame for young wrestlers not getting pushed, and thats Lesnar.. WWE now seem to only trust a select a rare select few of the younger guys. And obviously they all now have to earn WWEs trust big time.. since they dont want to create stars that UFC or anyone else can cash in on..

flahavaj

Tricity Bendix wrote: »

Hang on, wasn't Backlund brought back to work with the "new breed" like 20 years ago? Using older stars isn't a new phenomenon.

It wasn't being hailed as the signing that would turn the business around or ignite the Monday Night Wars like the Hogan/Bret signings though.

Red Sleeping Beauty

waltersobchak wrote: »

That'd be an epic response, get Byran Adams to do his intro and that'll sow it up big style..

Eh, isn't he dead?

Terry wrote: »

Ok, so Dennis Miller sowed the seeds (albeit scripted) last Monday.
Will he guest host Raw?
I'd like to see it. I was never a fan, but it would certainly be interesting. I just hope they don't do the predictable thing and have him screw DX out of the tag titles.

I thought it was a bit insensitive for them to pimp it at the slammys because Owen Hart was was doing the slammy thing when he died. TThen again, Vince never really knows where to draw the line.

Owen finished with the "I'm a two-time slammy award winning...." thing about 2years before he died. First slammy awards were in the 80s.

waltersobchak wrote: »

Its the same with everything. Nostalgia sells, people want to remember things from their youth, but the downside, people also get bored of it quickly

flahavaj wrote: »

On the surface yes. But dig a little deeper theres a more depresing story.

That's what I was thinking. It's weird cause in the mid-90s the WWF was surging ahead with the "New Generation" banner - Bret, HBK, Diesel, Razor etc. - and they didn't use Savage. Then WCW signs former WWF stars and does the nostalgia game - Halloween Havoc Hogan v Warrior and all the other WWF rematches.

It wasn't really until they bought WCW they Vince turned into the "custodian" of the wrestling world and started bringing in the former WCW guys. It sure looks like they're now banking on nostalgia selling rather than new blood so to speak - Punk's now jobbin and Sheamus' title win hardly featured on Raw this week. Biggest match of the year and all of that has been Taker vs. HBK, a rematch over 10years old.


How can Bret actually be any good if he's not wrestling? He was never a great promo guy, least until his heel turn in '97. It's big news but good news???

...maybe there'll be another DVD out of it!

Red Sleeping Beauty

waltersobchak wrote: »

Theres only one man to blame for young wrestlers not getting pushed, and thats Lesnar.. WWE now seem to only trust a select a rare select few of the younger guys. And obviously they all now have to earn WWEs trust big time.. since they dont want to create stars that UFC or anyone else can cash in on..

Interesting point...

Hadn't looked at it like that actually.

EdK

I had thought of the Brock point and yes it's a major factor but it's to their own detrement if they keep thinking like that Shawn and Taker are in last few years or less Rey is crocked,Batista is old and crocked HHH is no youngin if they don't start real soon there will be no one to step in and there are no already made stars to sign like there used to be they are all too old now

waltersobchak

Alan Rouge wrote: »

Interesting point...

Hadn't looked at it like that actually.

Personally i think thats why nothing's happening with Swagger,he's cut from the same cloth as Lesnar and Lashley, NCAA athlete, who WWE should be in love with, but they're obviously just testing him to see if he cracks, you know?and if not they'll eventually push him..

Paulegend

flahavaj wrote: »

Judging by recent history he'll probably be dead.:(

at least some1 decen. hopefully he doesnt do roids or painkillers. but at least we are moving forwards yeag. idiots. id dsay its the kids that are excited, morons.; you will jnever see the real hitman you stupid f#cks

Paulegend

EdK wrote: »

I had thought of the Brock point and yes it's a major factor but it's to their own detrement if they keep thinking like that Shawn and Taker are in last few years or less Rey is crocked,Batista is old and crocked HHH is no youngin if they don't start real soon there will be no one to step in and there are no already made stars to sign like there used to be they are all too old now

brett hart retired because he is croked

is everyone an idiot????????

Mr.Nice Guy

So it can happen for real now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4OstOc7qg

waltersobchak

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

So it can happen for real now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4OstOc7qg

i marked out big time that night:(:(

krudler

Paulegend wrote: »

at least some1 decen. hopefully he doesnt do roids or painkillers. but at least we are moving forwards yeag. idiots. id dsay its the kids that are excited, morons.; you will jnever see the real hitman you stupid f#cks

hic?

Paulegend

listen you idiots out there. and i really mean there are some morons. slow idiots out there. the hitman hart will not wrestle again. he may be with wwe but he wont wrestle you retard morons. come on the guy retired because he id injured. people him to come back but why not ask him to fight benoit and gurerro in a triple threath morons. some people are just finished. wrestle yourselvesn if you think you can idtiot

waltersobchak

Paulegend wrote: »

listen you idiots out there. and i really mean there are some morons. slow idiots out there. the hitman hart will not wrestle again. he may be with wwe but he wont wrestle you retard morons. come on the guy retired because he id injured. people him to come back but why not ask him to fight benoit and gurerro in a triple threath morons. some people are just finished. wrestle yourselvesn if you think you can idtiot

get a grip lad, your rambling..

Paulegend

waltersobchak wrote: »

get a grip lad, your rambling..

we3ll id do like to ramble:D all i mean is that people expect what will not happen. if he comes home it will not be as a wrestlre. its just some people are idiots and think he will be the next wwe champ

waltersobchak

Paulegend wrote: »

we3ll id do like to ramble:D all i mean is that people expect what will not happen. if he comes home it will not be as a wrestlre. its just some people are idiots and think he will be the next wwe champ

Your right its ridiculous for people to expect him to still wrestle, maybe he can still put HBK in a sharpshooter or something like that, but thats about the extent of what he could do, at the end of the day the most we can expect from him is maybe Guest Hosting Raw or Being ringside for The Hart Dynasty..

joepenguin

I wouldnt like to see him wrestle and I dont think it will happen. I'm a bit surprised at the news just like I was when he accepted his hall of fame spot. Reading the book at the moment by the way.

Anywho, maybe throw michaels or vince in a sharpshooter or something to that effect but Bret is one dude I have no interest seeing in the ring.

Degag

listen you idiots out there. and i really mean there are some morons. slow idiots out there. the hitman hart will not wrestle again. he may be with wwe but he wont wrestle you retard morons. come on the guy retired because he id injured. people him to come back but why not ask him to fight benoit and gurerro in a triple threath morons. some people are just finished. wrestle yourselvesn if you think you can idtiot

He may wrestle.... who knows. A few days ago there was almost no chance of him ever appearing on RAW again and now look what has happened. People shouldn't be called idiots for speculating on what may happen. Look at Ricky Steamboat. I think everyone thought that his (and Snuka and Piper) angle with Jericho at mania was going to blow yet he excelled himself and showed that he was still better at 50-something than probably half the current roster.

Why are you so adamant that Hart won't wrestle and take it to heart so much when people think he may?

Bounty Hunter

Paulegend wrote: »

listen you idiots out there. and i really mean there are some morons. slow idiots out there. the hitman hart will not wrestle again. he may be with wwe but he wont wrestle you retard morons. come on the guy retired because he id injured. people him to come back but why not ask him to fight benoit and gurerro in a triple threath morons. some people are just finished. wrestle yourselvesn if you think you can idtiot

Seriously man chill out, there was more than one conversation going on some were responding to comments about how there will be no new stars because of how Lesnar was pushed and left and that the older guys would not have a genuine built up replacements for them. these people were not saying that Bret is a replacement or that he can wrestle and tbh even if they were personal insults such as calling people idots/morons/retards will not be tolerated and can we leave out the stuff about the dead wrestlers its just not neccesary.

Bounty Hunter

Degag wrote: »

He may wrestle.... who knows. A few days ago there was almost no chance of him ever appearing on RAW again and now look what has happened. People shouldn't be called idiots for speculating on what may happen. Look at Ricky Steamboat. I think everyone thought that his (and Snuka and Piper) angle with Jericho at mania was going to blow yet he excelled himself and showed that he was still better at 50-something than probably half the current roster.

Why are you so adamant that Hart won't wrestle and take it to heart so much when people think he may?

He is probably adamant because of the big Insurance payout Brett got which states he would be voiding it if he got back in a wrestling ring. As others said the most I could see is a sharpshooter on HBK or Vince from him but damn do i wanna see it.

GM Raw, give some great promos (god knows he has got enough material from his history), then considering he has signed a contract up until mania, work an angle where he works with the Hart Dynasty while getting in Vinces face for past indescretions which leads to The Harts eventually winning the tag titles against DX wth Bret in their corner and Vince in DXs.

Shaneomac

I really hope this isnt wasted by a mere guest gm spot. Think a mania angle at the least. Think they should have done their best to keep it quiet. I wouldnt completely rule Bret out of another match, Bret did say before that if he really wanted to he could get in shape for 1 more

Dancor

Shaneomac wrote: »

I wouldnt completely rule Bret out of another match, Bret did say before that if he really wanted to he could get in shape for 1 more

:rolleyes: Not going to happen. Legally It cant, never mind what shape he is in.

G-Money

I'm pretty sure he won't be getting physically involved. Although I'm sure his health is good enough that he could slap the sharpshooter on someone

Shaneomac

Dancor wrote: »

:rolleyes: Not going to happen. Legally It cant, never mind what shape he is in.

Just quoting the man. If he wants to he will.

Richard Noggin

It'll be great to see him back but in terms of a long term solution to increase ratings,bringing back old wrestlers isn't the answer.

WWE could use Bret as a manager/guest referee at Mania possibly but they still need to invest in the future.

Headshot

The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be is back

my hero is back

I cant wait

brick tamland

I reckon it will be DX ( with Vvince in the corner ) Vs Harts ( with Bret in the corner ) for mania

gimmick

Paulegend wrote: »

brett hart retired because he is croked

is everyone an idiot????????

Paulegend wrote: »

listen you idiots out there. and i really mean there are some morons. slow idiots out there. the hitman hart will not wrestle again. he may be with wwe but he wont wrestle you retard morons. come on the guy retired because he id injured. people him to come back but why not ask him to fight benoit and gurerro in a triple threath morons. some people are just finished. wrestle yourselvesn if you think you can idtiot

Paulegend wrote: »

at least some1 decen. hopefully he doesnt do roids or painkillers. but at least we are moving forwards yeag. idiots. id dsay its the kids that are excited, morons.; you will jnever see the real hitman you stupid f#cks

Paulegend, please do not think you can be abusive like that and get away with it. Having consulted another mod on this, we have decided to ban you for a while. There is no point in running off to helpdesk either saying you have been harassed, as the above posts mean you have no fall back. You have been warned in the past and have obviously not heeded it.

JP Liz

WWE needed something to outdo Hulk going to TNA and this is it even if it is short term - i expect him to be involved in the Hart Dynasty/DX fued many maybe at WM cost HBK a title match

Jolt2007

Alan Rouge wrote: »

How can Bret actually be any good if he's not wrestling? He was never a great promo guy, least until his heel turn in '97. It's big news but good news???

I was thinking the same. He can't wrestle anymore and promo's were never his selling point, and would only be worse today because of the stroke. Saying that if done right he has a place to help The Hart Dynasty break through to the next level by association alone. This is actually the one thing I have faith in that they'll get right. Bret will know he's upset some of his hardcore fans by doing this and I'd imagine he'll insist on it being done right.

Rjd2

flahavaj wrote: »

Will Jan 4th 2010 be the day that wrestling turned the corner worldwide?

TNA airs with Hulk Hogan making his debut.

WWE reported to have Bret Hart set to debut, as the two biggest companies in America go head to head.

And in Japan, New Japan are running their Tokyo Dome show the biggest show of the year in Japan, and are set to sell 40,000 tickets based on early sales on the back of the NJPW vs NOAH theme.

On the surface yes. But dig a little deeper theres a more depresing story.

WWE and TNA are still reliant on bringing in guys like Hogn and Bret who were at their respective peaks decades ago. And the new Japan card will be headlines by Yoshihiro Takayama, a guy whos in the latter days of his career.

So the news is both encouraging and a bit depressing in equal meaure IMO.

Wrestling fans are suckers for nostalgia. How many times do threads on this board descend into "The attitude era was better" or "Bring back the extreme ECW" arguments?
Wrestling fans bang on about companies not pushing new guys but cream themselves when the likes of Hogan and Hart come back. It would be interesting to know how many people who sneered at Tna for bringing in Hogan are calling Vince a genius for bringing in Bret? :pac:

joe123

Whens he coming back? WWE has been utter tripe for the last few years now.Havent watched it in ages.

DM_7

Rjd2 wrote: »

Wrestling fans are suckers for nostalgia. How many times do threads on this board descend into "The attitude era was better" or "Bring back the extreme ECW" arguments?
Wrestling fans bang on about companies not pushing new guys but cream themselves when the likes of Hogan and Hart come back. It would be interesting to know how many people who sneered at Tna for bringing in Hogan are calling Vince a genius for bringing in Bret? :pac:

Bringing in hulk in the role(s) tna are suggested to be hiring him is not the same as Vince Bringing in Bret for an on screen role where it just an on screen role.

rossie1977

DM-ICE wrote: »

Bringing in hulk in the role(s) tna are suggested to be hiring him is not the same as Vince Bringing in Bret for an on screen role where it just an on screen role.

i bet hogan is tna champ before mania

Machismo Fan

waltersobchak wrote: »

Theres only one man to blame for young wrestlers not getting pushed, and thats Lesnar.. WWE now seem to only trust a select a rare select few of the younger guys. And obviously they all now have to earn WWEs trust big time.. since they dont want to create stars that UFC or anyone else can cash in on..

I don't buy this argument. So because Lesnar spent two good years making WWE money means they shouldn't push people just because he left afterwards and weren't Orton and Batista elevated not too long afterwards. Did they expect Lesnar to stay around forever?

WWE are just too stuck in their ways and bringing in Bret Hart won't make any difference in that regard in the same way Hogan won't for TNA (unless of course he books the product properly but I'd question whether he can do that).