prematurely balding musclebound men = juicers?

pwd

I tend to assume that guys who are going bald early and have huge muscles use steroids.
My logic for this is simple:
afaik baldness is usually caused by testosterone deficiency. Natural athletes with massive muscles are highly unlikely to be deficient in testosterone. Therefore they are probably juicing and go bald from fncking about with their hormones.
Right?

jayoo

I remember reading that there is a link involved, but i think it might just cause the balding process to increase slightly, so for example if you arent going to bald then it wont cause it to happen.

Obviously if someone was using steriods in a wreckless fashion, then you could have all kinda side affects.

Thats my 2cents:pac:

Canis Lupus

pwd wrote: »

I tend to assume that guys who are going bald early and have huge muscles use steroids.
My logic for this is simple:
afaik baldness is usually caused by testosterone deficiency. Natural athletes with massive muscles are highly unlikely to be deficient in testosterone. Therefore they are probably juicing and go bald from fncking about with their hormones.
Right?

I thought it was high levels of testosterone that destroyed our hair as it gets converted to something called DHT that shrinks hair follicles? Coupled with the surge of testosterone you get when you weight lift this in turn potentially affects men already susceptible to male pattern baldness.

So it's high testosterone not low that potentially causes the baldness although I thought that steroid takers take testosterone?

For someone that posts in here a bit your post looks a little trollish as well....

pwd

No it's a decrease in hormones that cause baldness not an excess.
Not a troll.

WolfForager

I remember this coming up here before. From what i remember it's that simply lifting weights speeds up the rate of balding.

Maybe someone else can remember where the article was dug up.

sean_84

pwd wrote: »

No it's a decrease in hormones that cause baldness not an excess.

It's actually the other way around. An increase in the DHT hormone is one of the causes of male baldness

celestial

the drifter

oh dear god..

sickpuppy

pwd wrote: »

I tend to assume that guys who are going bald early and have huge muscles use steroids.
My logic for this is simple:
afaik baldness is usually caused by testosterone deficiency. Natural athletes with massive muscles are highly unlikely to be deficient in testosterone. Therefore they are probably juicing and go bald from fncking about with their hormones.
Right?

If you have no testosterone you will not go bald.
LOOK at eunuchs they might have no balls be docile and never be able to father children but they have:pac: lovely hair.

d'Oracle

OP.

What happens if someone trains naturally and suffers from, the rather common, early onset Male pattern baldness?

I can think of few people who I know who didn't lift and were receding at 17/18.

If they put the work in, and stayed away from gear, would you then think?

This is a stupid thread you have started here.

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amacachi

I'm not musclebound but am going bald really early, so I must be on steroids if I now start hitting the weights? Ugh Christ.

Sangre

pwd wrote: »

No it's a decrease in hormones that cause baldness not an excess.
Not a troll.

Why are bald men often the hairiest then?

amazingemmet

High levels of dht are one of the main causes of baldness, Dht is the 5a reductase metabolite of testosterone.

Khannie

amazingemmet wrote: »

High levels of dht are one of the main causes of baldness, Dht is the 5a reductase metabolite of testosterone.

What does that mean?

FunkZ

Khannie wrote: »

What does that mean?

It means... he told the witch doctor he was in love with her. Uh ee uh ah ah, ting tang wanna walla bing bang.

... extremely bored, yeasshh.

Degsy

I dunno..i think weights have definatly speeded up the auld hair-thinning for me,especially in the last year.

amazingemmet

Khannie wrote: »

What does that mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrotestosterone

biko

pwd wrote: »

No it's a decrease in hormones that cause baldness not an excess.
Not a troll.

I'd like to see some sources for the OP.
Here's one claiming the opposite
http://www.articlesbase.com/medicine-articles/testosterone-and-male-pattern-baldness-183675.html

brianthebard

WolfForager wrote: »

From what i remember it's that simply lifting weights speeds up the rate of balding.

WHAT??? :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Canis Lupus

Degsy wrote: »

I dunno..i think weights have definatly speeded up the auld hair-thinning for me,especially in the last year.

I'd agree with this myself. My hair has really started to recede whereas until I seriously started SS it seemed to be stable.

The problem is not really knowing if the lifting has caused it or not. I'm not blessed with a head that will look good bald.

brianthebard

Maybe its a vitamin deficency? Zinc, vit d, must be one of them... *rummages in medicine cabinet for anti-baldness pills*

Frank Bullitt

Take Saw-Palmetto,problem solved

rubadub

Canis Lupus wrote: »

The problem is not really knowing if the lifting has caused it or not.

Need to see twins, one who lifts one who doesn't.

Haven't noticed any noticeable difference myself, as baldy as when I started.

pwd wrote: »

My logic for this is simple:
afaik baldness is usually caused by testosterone deficiency. Natural athletes with massive muscles are highly unlikely to be deficient in testosterone. Therefore they are probably juicing and go bald from fncking about with their hormones.

Following that logic all steroid users should have a higher rate of baldness than average. I think it would be safe to presume there are more steroid users in "untested events" but wonder if there is any difference in bladness between competitors in these events. i.e. it might not be fair to compare to the average population, I would presume most male atheletes would have higher test levels naturally, like basketball players will tend to be tall.

Did anybody see Andre Agassi on jonathon Ross? he was wearing wigs while playing tennis, skip to 40second here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpxqrWpJdiI

Frank Bullitt

I love Andre Agassi.

mloc

Testosterone has effects on many receptors in many cells all over the body.

It is also converted into other chemicals by different enzymes in the body; one of these enzymes is called 5-alpha reductase. This chemical reduces (that is, adds a hydrogen atom to) the 5 carbon of the testosterone molecule, resulting in another chemical called DHT.

DHT is also a hormone, but its affects are different to testosterone. While testosterone is more anabolic (which means it encourages growth in the body, a good thing for lifters), DHT is more androgenic (which means it is more masculinising). DHT thus causes effects such as deepening of the voice, acne, body hair growth and also, baldness. The end result; the more testosterone you have, the more DHT you have, the more likely you are to go bald. High DHT levels are not the only factor involved in baldness, hair type and genetics play an equal if not greater role.

For some predisposed to baldness, an increase in testosterone levels, naturally or through the use of steroids, can speed up the balding process. Additionally, some artificial steroids are more androgenic than natural testosterone, speeding this up even more.

squod

Having sex with girls will also increase your production of testosterone. Go baldies!

arybvtcw0eolkf

squod wrote: »

Having sex with girls will also increase your production of testosterone. Go baldies!

As will sex before training!.. (even a paddle & crank!).

It was once thought that sex before training, or with fighters - for weeks before an important fight, lowered the players testosterone and aggression and there by inhibited performance.

But I've been reading in the last few years that testosterone production peaks in the hours after sex and slowly declines there after.

Now word of caution, if I find any stick oly bars or DB's in TotalFitness tomorrow - heads will roll :P