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Too many students with too much free time

  • 14-12-2009 12:04am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭


    Just got this email from the Student Union. Frankly, any woman daft enough to forget to take her pill deserves the consequences. Is this BS service actually costing the SU (and hence, us) any money? Why does our generation insist on delegating responsibility to the extent where we need a text message to remind us to do daily, routine things? Why oh why does the SU think this is a good idea? Do they just sit around all day vainly trying to come up with ways of justifying their pointless institution? Honestly, such a waste of time and energy.


    Rant over.



    Do you remember the oral contraception survey you carried out in October? Thank you for your participation and all your comments. It is now quite clear that there is a need for an urgent response to the use of contraception and ways to combat against its ineffective use.
    Two students have been eagerly working on a new and exciting project, safetext.ie, which will send daily text messages to remind its users to take their oral contraception.
    safetext.ie wants to tackle the problem of forgetting to take the contraceptive pill once and for all.
    We are aiming to launch this service in the New Year but we need your help first. By logging onto our website and entering your email address, you will then be generating an interest in the service. Without this, we cannot go further with the project. If there is sufficient interest we can work on making sure that this service is up and running soon. We will then be able to keep you up to date with our progress and the date we go live.
    Remember this service will be entirely free for you to use. We aim for a professional service that you can trust, and one that we can both be proud of.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    Denerick wrote: »
    Frankly, any woman daft enough to forget to take her pill deserves the consequences.

    I think that's overly harsh, in fairness.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Jev/N wrote: »
    I think that's overly harsh, in fairness.

    Well maybe, but the point is if you're big enough to do the deed you should be big enough to bear the consequences. Why do we need Big Brother to constantly hold our hand through life?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Jammyc


    Seems their stance is:

    "Dont cut money from the library, give it to us so we can remind people not to get pregnant." Ugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭phlegms


    Is it just me, or does the OP seem like kind of a doucher?
    Just gonna throw that one out there folks..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    Seems like a pretty stupid idea, just setting an alarm / daily appointment would serve the very same purpose.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭devinejay


    Costing the SU?!?! What do you think unplanned pregnancies cost the state? If this service legitimately improves the success rate of contraceptives then I have little argument against it, and I can't see how anyone else would.

    Also, Baza, that's exactly what I thought, but sure we're engineers, what do we know about women?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    All I know is how to use technology. Are women technology?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭devinejay


    Good question, my only thought is we better consult with a bio-mech engineer. They'll surely know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,498 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Not gotten the ride in a while eh, op?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭bythewoods


    Look guys, it's probably cheaper for the SU to send the BESS girls a few mass texts than it would be to pay for their abortions.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭phlegms


    bythewoods wrote: »
    Look guys, it's probably cheaper for the SU to send the BESS girls a few mass texts than it would be to pay for their abortions.

    I suppose they could get some 1st year Med students to perform them instead. This way they could divert funds into sorting out the tea situation in the Hamiltion instead..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭gaybitch


    Pointless thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭dan719


    bythewoods wrote: »
    Look guys, it's probably cheaper for the SU to send the BESS girls a few mass texts than it would be to pay for their abortions.

    I was going to say something highly inappropriate here, then decided against. :p


    Denerick, tell the truth, you're a virgin aren't you? No, choking the chicken doesn't count.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Should the SU even be pushing oral contraceptives? Given the nature of young people and their whoring ways surely condoms should be the main focus?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    devinejay wrote: »
    Costing the SU?!?! What do you think unplanned pregnancies cost the state? If this service legitimately improves the success rate of contraceptives then I have little argument against it, and I can't see how anyone else would.

    Also, Baza, that's exactly what I thought, but sure we're engineers, what do we know about women?

    Umm... Thats peoples personal responsibility? 'The success rate of contraceptives'?? The one sure way of guaranteeing the success rate of contraceptives is to wear the blooming things! 'I can't see how anyone else would', in life, you'll come across people (Admittedly few) who have strong beliefs about personal responsibility and who don't expect someone else to come along and take responsibility for every bloody problem they may or may not have in their ridicilously mollycuddled lives. We've become a nanny state, only the nanny has been replaced by a prostitute.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    dan719 wrote: »
    I was going to say something highly inappropriate here, then decided against. :p


    Denerick, tell the truth, you're a virgin aren't you? No, choking the chicken doesn't count.

    By all means, turn this thread into some machismo chest beating 'who's got the biggest cock' fest if you want.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    i suppose its better the that this be funded then having to fun children born after an accident.

    Anyway, anyone taking any kind of medication, (the pill or antiboticis or whatever) should be able to regulate it propperly anyway, as part of their routine anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Tricity Bendix


    gaybitch wrote: »
    Pointless thread
    Well, for you it is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    Well, for you it is

    You better not be pregnant. Boston would crush my delicate skull if he discovered our transgressions (thanks, Tiger), flailing scooter or not.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Well, for you it is

    There's layers in that comeback...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Steve Higginson


    I figured people who worked in libraries could read Derek. Does that email say that this service is being run by the SU? No? Well, that's probably because it isn't.

    But sure why should the SU bother to advertise a helpful and free service to female students? Those wagons should probably just deal with whatever deservedly happens to them. Am I right?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    I figured people who worked in libraries could read Derek. Does that email say that this service is being run by the SU? No? Well, that's probably because it isn't.

    But sure why should the SU bother to advertise a helpful and free service to female students? Those wagons should probably just deal with whatever deservedly happens to them. Am I right?


    Wagons?

    All I'm saying is that its a profound waste of time. If some private company creates this service and people want to pay for it, fine. But if the SU is in anyway involved in running this so called 'free' service, then I question the necessity of having an organisation which genuinely seems to have nothing better to do with its free time. I wish we could just ban the bloody personality contest SU Presidency and re-create a solemn students institutions which merely look after our legal rights in a very centralised fashion. We have no need for these people telling us of new and great ways to live our life. Next thing they'll be pushing for toilet assistants to help us wipe our arses. Are students so really devoid of the principle of personal responsibility? Have we created a generation of state hugging mindless drones? I do worry about this world sometimes, lost as it is in the pursuit of delegating responsibility for their lives to faceless buraucracies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    It sounded pretty clear in the email that the service will only be launched if there's a demand for it. And it also sounded like the service was in response to questions answered in a survey, so based on that they probably decided that it would be useful and that it would help.

    I don't see the big problem with it if people will use it and will find it helpful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭devinejay


    Denerick wrote: »
    Umm... Thats peoples personal responsibility? 'The success rate of contraceptives'?? The one sure way of guaranteeing the success rate of contraceptives is to wear the blooming things! 'I can't see how anyone else would', in life, you'll come across people (Admittedly few) who have strong beliefs about personal responsibility and who don't expect someone else to come along and take responsibility for every bloody problem they may or may not have in their ridicilously mollycuddled lives. We've become a nanny state, only the nanny has been replaced by a prostitute.

    *Must.....not......get.......personal........argh*

    \steps away


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Mark200 wrote: »
    It sounded pretty clear in the email that the service will only be launched if there's a demand for it. And it also sounded like the service was in response to questions answered in a survey, so based on that they probably decided that it would be useful and that it would help.

    I don't see the big problem with it if people will use it and will find it helpful.

    How much is it costing the SU? Why do we even need a third party to constantly remind us about routine things? I don't care so much about the particulars, just the principle.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    devinejay wrote: »
    *Must.....not......get.......personal........argh*

    \steps away

    You don't have to get personal... Being rational might help you though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    Troll thread is fail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    Boston wrote: »
    Should the SU even be pushing oral contraceptives? Given the nature of young people and their whoring ways surely condoms should be the main focus?

    Meh. The more oral skills they learn the better in my opinion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Steve Higginson


    Denerick wrote: »
    How much is it costing the SU?

    Nothing! Nothing you idiot! Did you not read what I already posted? Get back to work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 992 ✭✭✭fh041205


    Nothing! Nothing you idiot! Did you not read what I already posted? Get back to work.

    Proof?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭cantankerous


    Denerick wrote: »
    Just got this email from the Student Union. Frankly, any woman daft enough to forget to take her pill deserves the consequences. Is this BS service actually costing the SU (and hence, us) any money? Why does our generation insist on delegating responsibility to the extent where we need a text message to remind us to do daily, routine things? Why oh why does the SU think this is a good idea? Do they just sit around all day vainly trying to come up with ways of justifying their pointless institution? Honestly, such a waste of time and energy.


    Rant over.

    Exactly. Free shewees would help the genderly disadvantaged more than texts to remind them to take their pills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Boston wrote: »
    Should the SU even be pushing oral contraceptives? Given the nature of young people and their whoring ways surely condoms should be the main focus?

    How about sending a text to remind you to put on a condom? Just text them when you're about to have sex, and get an instant response with step by step instructions...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Toulousain wrote: »
    How about sending a text to remind you to put on a condom? Just text them when you're about to have sex, and get an instant response with step by step instructions...

    Lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    Surprised this wasn't up yet...


    This is just mental.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Aldito


    They could just use a mass web text and it would be free


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭tabouli


    Aldito wrote: »
    They could just use a mass web text and it would be free

    Maybe that's what it is? So far there hasn't been any substantial evidence in this thread that it's actually costing the SU (or anyone else) any money. Although I'm not quite sure how a mass web text would work. For the service to be effective I imagine it would need to have some sort of function where you could tell it what time you want the reminder at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭devinejay


    The mass text could be funny, like if it coincided with the middle of a lecture or something.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    It is a student business start up that the Students Union is helping to promote.


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