Pinarello Dogma: Sky

Raam

DirkVoodoo

Bradley needs to learn that dressing like the artful Dodger is not very cool. here is a chap with some style:



Those colors really make that Pinarello look dead sexy though.

lukester

Wiggo, oh dear.

Rapidly going off Pinarello. Frightfully common.

Raam

lukester wrote: »

Wiggo, oh dear.

Rapidly going off Pinarello. Frightfully common.

Oh c'mon. That Dogma is hawt.

furiousox

Raam wrote: »

Isn't that the drummer from Oasis??

Stokolan

Meh.. I dont like the colour scheme.

Slideshowbob

no its ringo starr



sorry i mean paul weller

furiousox

Slideshowbob wrote: »

no its ringo starr

zak starkeys dad!


anyway back to the bike.......its.....meh

Lumen

Paul Weller? The Clash more like. That bike is

But it makes no difference to anything. He's still going to win the TdF. :pac:

Junior

Lumen wrote: »

Paul Weller? The Clash more like. That bike is

But it makes no difference to anything. He's still not going to win the TdF. :pac:

FYP

Odd Looking color combo, I thought they'd have gone for oh Blue White and Red...

ednwireland

guess the clours are designed to match this kit ......



its a sky team remember not a british team

any excuse for a pic of vp as well

lukester

Raam wrote: »

Oh c'mon. That Dogma is hawt.

Objectively, yes, it's pretty hawt. But the association with Team Sky is putting me off. Every fred in the UK will be riding Pinarello, and quite a few here (not the Dogma, too pricey for most).

Lumen

Would have preferred something like this, only with Record.

L'Enfer du Nord

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

Bradley needs to learn that dressing like the artful Dodger is not very cool. here is a chap with some style:



Those colors really make that Pinarello look dead sexy though.

I think he has his off days -

JacksonHeightsOwn

ednwireland wrote: »

guess the clours are designed to match this kit ......



its a sky team remember not a british team

any excuse for a pic of vp as well

id love to be that Pendletons saddle, she`s hot a FOOK!!!

kinda gone off the pinarellos now myself, they`re certainly not as nice as the new team Radioshack bikes anyway thats for sure

DirkVoodoo

L'Enfer du Nord wrote: »

I think he has his off days -

Nooooooo!!

Caroline_ie

I quite like that colour scheme on the Dogma. you guy have no taste. 100x nicer than Lance's new Madone.

niceonetom

The dogma is not my cuppa cha, but I can see why others would like it. If I were given five words to describe my dream bike "wibbly" would not be among them, but it's the first word I think of when I look at that pinerello.

They haven't done it any favours with that paint-job though, the two-tone just looks flat and boring. If they'd taken the normal scheme and just replaced red with sky blue it would look better:



As for velvet jackets and pointy shoes, well, at least he doesn't have to wear argyle any more, but he still looks like a plonker.

DirkVoodoo

Boring, what? Has anyone even heard of Nightwing?? That's what I think of when I see that bike. A superhero themed bike is cool, end of discussion.

ROK ON

Its an horrible bike and I am getting bored of wiggins.
I confidently predict that he will fall flat on his arse next season. Boasson Hagen couldwell be the star of the team in that he may actually win a race of two.

E@gle.

Lumen wrote: »

Would have preferred something like this, only with Record.

Is it not illegal to put shimano on a Italian bike?

JacksonHeightsOwn

Caroline_ie wrote: »

I quite like that colour scheme on the Dogma. you guy have no taste. 100x nicer than Lance's new Madone.

seriously, The Shack bike is savage looking!!

sy

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

Bradley needs to learn that dressing like the artful Dodger is not very cool. here is a chap with some style:


.

No this is style

Coppi arrives in Ireland for a race

Lumen

E@gle. wrote: »

Is it not illegal to put shimano on a Italian bike?

Hence the "...but with Record".

I think the Dogma ships with Shimano as standard - it's on all the brochure shots.

But those beefy cranks do rather clash with the wavy forks.

ednwireland

E@gle. wrote: »

Is it not illegal to put shimano on a Italian bike?

sky havent realised yet but they will be arrested for bringing that bike to the giro

(havent ridden road sram but i can hardly tell the defference between any of then tbh got over my campag/ italian bike fetish years ago (it wasnt the best experience but rode it for several years) in fact the old italian frame is going to be a turbo bike with shimano)

petethedrummer

chrisbonnie wrote: »

seriously, The Shack bike is savage looking!!

.....in that picture. its hideous in others.

niceonetom

petethedrummer wrote: »

.....in that picture. its hideous in others.

I've seen the same said of Pendleton.

Chips Lovell

niceonetom wrote: »

I've seen the same said of Pendleton.

Meeoooowwww!!!

Lumen

niceonetom wrote: »

I've seen the same said of Pendleton.

That's the worst I can do without photoshopping :pac:

Hardly a double-bagger.

niceonetom

Hey, I'm not saying she's a minger - I'm a big fan - I was just saying I've seen people point out that there are good angles and there are bad angles. Much like the pinerello actually.

blorg

E@gle. wrote: »

Is it not illegal to put shimano on a Italian bike?

Makes sense to put an Asian-manufactured groupset on an Asian-manufactured frame surely

Lumen

blorg wrote: »

Makes sense to put an Asian-manufactured groupset on an Asian-manufactured frame surely

That's an outrageous slur. The most performance-critical component is engineered-on in Italy. The paint is what gives the bike that sublime combination of lateral stiffness and vertical compliance.

And don't tell me that those bodacious forks were conceived in straight-laced Asia. Mamma mia! Tu mi stanno uccidendo!

lukester

Lumen wrote: »

Mamma mia! Tu mi stanno uccidendo!

Porco dio, ma che cazzo stai dicendo? Il telaio sanguinerebbe verde rossa e bianco se si tagli.

lukester

Heh

Lumen

Yes indeed, the Dogma is phat. Oh no, make that fat.

When weightweenies attack

CompetitiveCyclist's spin on this is:

"NB on the weight: Pinarello's catalog indicates that the Dogma weighs 950g. This weight is before paint and "mechanization", i.e. installation of BB shell, bottle bosses, etc. Once mechanized, a 53cm Dogma weights 1210g"

That's 1210g without a fork, for the midget size.

Tour magazine weighed the frameset at 1848g. :eek:

Junior

Lumen wrote: »

Yes indeed, the Dogma is phat. Oh no, make that fat.

When weightweenies attack

CompetitiveCyclist's spin on this is:

"NB on the weight: Pinarello's catalog indicates that the Dogma weighs 950g. This weight is before paint and "mechanization", i.e. installation of BB shell, bottle bosses, etc. Once mechanized, a 53cm Dogma weights 1210g"

That's 1210g without a fork, for the midget size.

Tour magazine weighed the frameset at 1848g. :eek:

Oh I don't know, what with the half paint jobs and specially strengthened frames that Dave Brailsford is on about I'm sure they are extra extra light, oh I forgot there's a minimum UCI weight limit. I really am sick to the teeth of the Sky Publicity machine, I logged onto twitter on Friday and I thought Bossan Hagen had won the Tour of Qatar not Cancellara..

Lumen

Junior wrote: »

I really am sick to the teeth of the Sky Publicity machine, I logged onto twitter on Friday and I thought Bossan Hagen had won the Tour of Qatar not Cancellara..

Stick to Wiggins' twitter, it's much more entertaining.

Best moment of the day today was my soigneur Txema putting a heated towel on my nut sack for massage, bloody great!
3:40 PM Feb 20th via mobile web

Junior

Lumen wrote: »

Stick to Wiggins' twitter, it's much more entertaining.

Best moment of the day today was my soigneur Txema putting a heated towel on my nut sack for massage, bloody great!
3:40 PM Feb 20th via mobile web

I have subscribed to him but meh, for the odd nugget he comes out with he's just another one playing the publicity game to suit himself..

Anyone know if Rev David Millar is on Twitter..

blorg

Junior wrote: »

Anyone know if Rev David Millar is on Twitter..

http://twitter.com/david_millar/status/9499958969

niceonetom

Lumen wrote: »

Tour magazine weighed the frameset at 1848g. :eek:

and poor Bradley staving himself...

It's stuff like this that makes me think the "Italian" bikes are to be avoided (no matter where they're made). Why would they expend money and effort on R&D when they've already got a nice chunk of the buying public convinced that their frames are imbued with "soul" or "heritage" or whatever? Nah, much easier to make it wibbly, outsource the manufacture to the lowest far-eastern bidder and spend a small percentage of the profits on ensuring proper media exposure. The dentists will be lining up.

blorg

niceonetom wrote: »

The dentists will be lining up.

No, dentists ride titanium.

niceonetom

blorg wrote: »

No, dentists ride titanium.

Who rides pinerellos then? orthodontists?

Lumen

niceonetom wrote: »

Who rides pinarellos then? orthodontists?

Alan Sugar.

I think Pinarellos are now a bit mainstream to be classic dentist bikes.

I saw a white painted Ti frame yesterday. With see-through bits for the logos. Apparently the customer was a regular, and not poor. Bizarre.

victorcarrera

ednwireland wrote: »

guess the clours are designed to match this kit ......



its a sky team remember not a british team

any excuse for a pic of vp as well

Nice kit shame about the flats though.

With all their dosh you'd think they could design some kind of lightweight/ aero/teardrop thingies for the photo shoots at least.
She'll never make it on to the Sky news team looking like that.

blorg

Lumen wrote: »

I saw a white painted Ti frame yesterday. With see-through bits for the logos. Apparently the customer was a regular, and not poor. Bizarre.

What's bizarre?

niceonetom

Lumen wrote: »

I saw a white painted Ti frame yesterday. With see-through bits for the logos.

Sounds nice to me.

Bare Ti is the dental health professionals' equivalent of cosmetic carbon weave... everyone! everyone! look at my TUBES!!! LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE MADE OF!!!

xz

Lumen wrote: »

That's the worst I can do without photoshopping :pac:

Hardly a double-bagger.

This is what a bit of makeup, and probably photoshopping can do

blorg

niceonetom wrote: »

Sounds nice to me.

Bare Ti is the dental health professionals' equivalent of cosmetic carbon weave... everyone! everyone! look at my TUBES!!! LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE MADE OF!!!

In fairness it stays looking the same ten years later though. I actually like the painted Litespeeds (they are only part painted, anyway) but wanted a more durable finish.

Lumen

blorg wrote: »

What's bizarre?

Painting titanium. What's the point?

blorg

Lumen wrote: »

Painting titanium. What's the point?

Aesthetics, same reason you would paint carbon.

Lumen

blorg wrote: »

Aesthetics, same reason you would paint carbon.

Carbon is painted because is looks crappy underneath. Even the "raw" carbon fibre frames tend to be deliberately constructed with a cosmetic layer on top, so painting CF means you can just make what's underneath functional.

Ti looks great unpainted, so I just don't see the point. If you don't like the look of Ti, why not get steel instead?

Still, I'm not exactly the best person to be throwing stones towards eccentric framebuilding projects.