Cheaper drink?

BraziliaNZ

So now that they've reduced pints by a whopping 16c (I think) and wine by 50c a bottle, do you think this will actually be noticed in the prices we pay? Or will we continue to get screwed by publicans?
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wudangclan

All publicans being essentially honest people and not concerned with the bottom line will,of course,implement the whole reduction with immediate effect.

omahaid

wudangclan wrote: »

All publicans being essentially honest people and not concerned with the bottom line will,of course,implement the whole reduction with immediate affect.

I concur, publicans are amongst the most honest of society, always putting the customer first.

super_furry

Well if they don't pass it on, it will only be another nail in the coffin of the pub industry because you can be sure off-licences and supermarkets will.

BraziliaNZ

Tesco have decent bottles of wine for 4 euro sometimes. If they took the 50c off it you could have a nice bottle of wine and get drunk for far less than the average price of a pint. I don't know how publicans justify it!

KungPao

omahaid wrote: »

I concur, publicans are amongst the most honest of society, always putting the customer first.

My sarcasm detector just exploded!

Lux23

If the publican doesn't pass the cut on to the consumer he won't get the cut himself so I would imagine they all will.

omahaid

I imagine some pubs will some wont. The popular pubs and clubs will have no reason to pass it on, people dont vote with their feet. Pubs on the brink will in the hopes of attracting business.

robinph

It was specifically mentioned in the budget that if the change was not passed on to consumers then it would be switched straight back again.

DOC09UNAM

Our favourite publican won't have to do anything.

Cans of bulmers here are 4.20, he only charges 4 for most customers.

This is the same with most other cans/bottles/pints, if there's anything he doesn't already round down, it'll be done soon.

The other two on the street though are cúnts, so god only knows what they'll do.

PirateShampoo

WOW 16c off a pint.

If i pay €4.60 a pint i would have to drink roughly 28 pints, to be left with enough change to buy a extra 1 pint.

Tusky

So instead of paying 5 euro a pint, we will pay 4.84 ? yay :rolleyes:

omahaid

PirateShampoo wrote: »

WOW 16c off a pint.

If i pay €4.60 a pint i would have to drink roughly 28 pints, to be left with enough change to buy a extra 1 pint.

I agree, how this is supposed to convince me to shop in the south is beyond me, drink is still nowhere close in price to the north. Why do things is 1/4 measures? He should have either not changed it or changed it properly.

godtabh

If it had of went up 16c this would be a totally different thread

Tusky

godtabh wrote: »

If it had of went up 16c this would be a totally different thread

Well yeah, because its already horrendously overpriced as it is.

I fail to see how 16c off the price of a pint is going to affect ANYONE other than a raging alcoholic. Even then, the affects are minimal.

Mossy Monk

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Cans of bulmers here are 4.20, he only charges 4 for most customers.

Who pays €4 for a can of Bulmers :eek:

PirateShampoo

godtabh wrote: »

If it had of went up 16c this would be a totally different thread

I just don't get how a 16 cent drop and a -0.5 VAT drop is going to stem the tide of shoppers going North.

Its just a ploy by the government who think we are stupid to get us back in the pubs and drink our little ass's off.



To the North Batman............

wudangclan

Tusky wrote: »

Well yeah, because its already horrendously overpriced as it is.

I fail to see how 16c off the price of a pint is going to affect ANYONE other than a raging alcoholic. Even then, the affects are minimal.

The Butterfly Affect.
You never know what one of those 16c might lead to.


/thread.

PirateShampoo

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Who pays €4 for a can of Bulmers :eek:

Seen lots of pubs and clubs down the country doing this.

godtabh

Tusky wrote: »

I fail to see how 16c off the price of a pint is going to affect ANYONE other than a raging alcoholic. Even then, the affects are minimal.

Raise lower. All the same really

As with anything you think its over priced get something else or go some where else

kingtut

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

16c (I think)

It's down by 12c.

DamoDLK

I'd wonder whether or not it will deter people from traveling across the border, still reckon there's better value there.. for drink - time will tell i guess.

DOC09UNAM

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Who pays €4 for a can of Bulmers :eek:

I Try not to, i like to keep the offy in business if i can,

BraziliaNZ

yeah that's the thing, the most expensive places in Dublin anyway, are always packed, e.g. Cafe En Seine, places on South William st etc.
So people don't really seem to care that much in these places. It's the locals that are being hit hard. Men can't afford to go downt pub for a rake of pints every night on their own and come home and beat their wives, like the good old days.

suimhneas

couln't care less about the bloody price of drink, i still live 3 miles from a pub i wont drink and drive and i live in a rural area with no taxi or bus services. Why would a measly 16c off a pint make a flippin difference to me? This government is so out of touch with whats really happening on the ground it sickens me. The cost of living might have gone down in citys where you hav a choice of supermarkets to choose from it certainly hasn't in rural areas, we have no choice for the weekly shop but to travel 60 miles to the local towns to get the likes of aldi or lidl so we can actually afford to eat during the week. The small rural groccer has not dropped a cent in price and will still bitch and moan when people travle to do their shopping.

PirateShampoo

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

yeah that's the thing, the most expensive places in Dublin anyway, are always packed, e.g. Cafe En Seine, places on South William st etc.
So people don't really seem to care that much in these places. It's the locals that are being hit hard. Men can't afford to go downt pub for a rake of pints every night on their own and come home and beat their wives, like the good old days.

Ah good old drunken wife bashing, Ive a string vest that i put on for those rare occasions, i find if you work the ribs you wont bring any suspicion on your self, than to say if you went for the old black eyes route.

Good old Dutch Gold.

robinph

Our VAT is going down by 0.5% and the VAT in the north is going up by 2.5%. The difference in VAT rate is being halved so the combination of the two changes probably will make it less worthwhile to go shopping up there, of course there is still the € to £ rate which they have no control over.

PirateShampoo

robinph wrote: »

Our VAT is going down by 0.5% and the VAT in the north is going up by 2.5%. The difference in VAT rate is being halved so the combination of the two changes probably will make it less worthwhile to go shopping up there, of course there is still the € to £ rate which they have no control over.

A difference of 3.5%, and this dont come into effect till next year. So christmas shoppers are going to go North in there droves for all there spending needs till then.

jimmmy

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

So now that they've reduced pints by a whopping 16c (I think) and wine by 50c a bottle, do you think this will actually be noticed in the prices we pay?

yes

PirateShampoo

jimmmy wrote: »

yes

How so?

Buceph

robinph wrote: »

Our VAT is going down by 0.5% and the VAT in the north is going up by 2.5%. The difference in VAT rate is being halved so the combination of the two changes probably will make it less worthwhile to go shopping up there, of course there is still the € to £ rate which they have no control over.

And the fact that things are just generally priced cheaper in the UK.

It'd be interesting to find out how far people are willing to travel to get to the North. I can't imagine anyone from Cork or Kerry driving up, I know I certainly wouldn't.

Another aspect to look at though is the tourism industry. Me and friends would often go for a weekend on the piss somewhere in Ireland. The last two years we realised it'd be cheaper to go to Belfast, and for the same price as a weekend in Ireland we'd get a long weekend up the North. Not only that but booze in pubs was far cheaper, £2 pints and WKD Blues. All you can eat chinese for £6. The place we were staying said they were constantly booked out with Irish people coming up for a weekend to go on the tear.

robinph

PirateShampoo wrote: »

A difference of 3.5%, and this dont come into effect till next year. So christmas shoppers are going to go North in there droves for all there spending needs till then.

Well neither VAT rate change was going to happen today regardless, but a 3.5% difference rather than a 6.5% difference should go some way to evening up the prices. Cannot remember if there was any mention of changes to alcohol in the pre-budget thing for the UK yesterday or not, but I don't think there were talking about the reducing excise..

Jet Black

Well they increased the price of wine last year by 50c and now took it back of so it does not make a difference.

PirateShampoo

PirateShampoo wrote: »

I just don't get how a 16 cent drop and a -0.5 VAT drop is going to stem the tide of shoppers going North.

Well for those of us who drink regularly in pubs it will help.

BraziliaNZ

I'd say they'll drop it about 10c a pint. Which is unfair because if it went up 12c they'd raise the price 20c in most places.

PirateShampoo

Celeste Salmon Peddler wrote: »

Well for those of us who drink regularly in pubs it will help.

Well to see any benifit from 16c drop you would want to be drinking a crazy amount of drink.

But at least you can put the 16c you save to good use when uve to pay the hospital bills.

kingtut

It's 12c not 16c! The goverment aren't that generous :mad:

Gone Drinking

I don't think it works like just removing 12cent from the price of a pint.

I thought it'd be pub buys extra beer with the money they're saving, which they're getting at a cheaper price because they're buying more. Which they pass onto us.. or something.

Anyway, one of our pubs in Leixlip is doing all pints €3.50 from monday to friday for the past few months. Its helped an awful lot with business by the looks of things.

ejmaztec

Fuck the pubs, brew your own and get cirrhosis of the liver in the comfort of your own living-room. You won't get the wrong change either.

AFC_1903

Pubs which change their prices will most likely change the price by a value of 10 or 15 cents (depending on generosity) rather than 12 cents, as it is way too much hassle for the staff to deal with all the extra wee coins. Maybe it's not so much trouble in a quiet pub on a quiet night, but in a busy place or on a busy night? If each member of barstaff is serving 100+ customers per hour they really do not want to be messing about with 1c and 2c coins nor will the owners want the slowing down of service this extra hassle will cause.

fillmore jive

If petrol is going up then would pint prices not stay the same? Considering its now more expensive to transport kegs around, then that 12c saved on a pint could cover the extra transport costs?

toiletduck

When is the drop in excise supposed to come into effect?

horsebox1977

Is that why they are charging 6 euro plus for a beer in town?
€6.70 in Fitzimons to be exact..

BraziliaNZ

horsebox1977 wrote: »

Is that why they are charging 6 euro plus for a beer in town?
€6.70 in Fitzimons to be exact..

are you effin' serious?

Sea Sharp

This tax cut is good because it advertises the fact that the price of alcohol has to come down which will make people more aware that they're being ripped off. This in turn will put pressure on the alcohol producers to lower their prices.

AFC_1903

€6.70! :eek:

I'd laugh and walk out if I was told that was the price of a pint!

SEPT 23 1989

Chin Chin!

daniel91

horsebox1977 wrote: »

Is that why they are charging 6 euro plus for a beer in town?
€6.70 in Fitzimons to be exact..

It's greedy fcukers like that are messing up the economy! And anyone that pays €6.70 for a pint deserves to get ripped off!

dRNk SAnTA

Apparently Tesco have cut the price of spirits 20%, wines 15% and beer 10%

InKonspikuou2

Anybody know if they are going to change that stupid off license closing early lark? Been caught out on that countless amounts of times. Surely there must be big loses on that with people who work late etc.

Dudess

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

yeah that's the thing, the most expensive places in Dublin anyway, are always packed, e.g. Cafe En Seine, places on South William st etc.
So people don't really seem to care that much in these places.

Leave them to it, tbh.