ACTA.......is ready to attack your IPOD,

Run_to_da_hills

Berkut wrote: »

Just so you know in case any of you are going to Saudi Arabia do not have movies/music on your laptop. As for your ipod forget about it.
Customs are scanning all electronic items such as laptops/mp3 players/phones etc...
Anyone found with illegal music/movies etc (they treat it all as illegal regardless) will be fined €120 and deported asap..
I work in a large multinational company and this came in to us last week that if we're traveling only bring a work laptop with absolutely nothing on it and your work phone.

You would to treat carrying MP3s like carrying dope across the customs, Get caught with lots you could go down. Scandisk are developing a 120GB Micro SD card due for release in 2011 that could be very easily concealed.

Mark200 wrote: »

Yeah that's what I was thinking.

The EU approved a law which doesn't allow a three strikes and out method.

So I think this is just more paranoia

Its the US that is pushing for the Three strikes law. These are the same bullies that have also got the EU to submit data retention etc. They also got the weight and pressure of the media corporates which is currently on its knees. I cannot see the EU being able to do too much.

citizen_p

seriously bad me thinks......

phasers

I love my ipod, I won it last Summer along with a tent and inflatable chair.

Mossy Monk

the_syco wrote: »

ZOMG!!! The link works!

Redirect to the CIA. WTF.

Mrmoe

I use Truecrypt to encrypt all storage data on my harddrives, laptop or PC. I would like to see them check for any illegal files then.

blubloblu

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Proposed_US_ACTA_plurilateral_intellectual_property_trade_agreement_%282007%29

blubloblu

Mrmoe wrote: »

I use Truecrypt to encrypt all storage data on my harddrives, laptop or PC. I would like to see them check for any illegal files then.

http://xkcd.com/538/

Run_to_da_hills

Mrmoe wrote: »

I use Truecrypt to encrypt all storage data on my harddrives, laptop or PC. I would like to see them check for any illegal files then.

They would simply take it off you if they suspected anything.

Overheal

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You would to treat carrying MP3s like carrying dope across the customs, Get caught with lots you could go down. Scandisk are developing a 120GB Micro SD card due for release in 2011 that could be very easily concealed.

Sandisk. And dont you forget it.

Its the US that is pushing for the Three strikes law. These are the same bullies that have also got the EU to submit data retention etc. They also got the weight and pressure of the media corporates which is currently on its knees. I cannot see the EU being able to do too much.

Whatever. Until I hear about this from a reliable source I remain wholly unconvinced of any such measure.

Jay P

blubloblu wrote: »

http://xkcd.com/538/

I think these two are also quite relevent

qwertplaywert

Tbh, as previously mentioned, if this comes into praticise, just use passwords,they will next court orders to get the password etc.

Run_to_da_hills

Overheal wrote: »

Whatever. Until I hear about this from a reliable source I remain wholly unconvinced of any such measure.

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qwertplaywert wrote: »

Tbh, as previously mentioned, if this comes into practices, just use passwords,they will next court orders to get the password etc.

I can see them treating an encrypted hdd as a locked suitcase and could see them haveing the power to inspect it even from remote access if they had suspicion there was something on it. The best thing one could do would be to keep stuff on an external USB drive and plug it out when on line.

Cupcake_Crisis

I think its a bit excessive tbh! And theres always ways around these kinda things, some genius will figure something out

Overheal

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

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I wasnt talking about the data retention I was talking about ACTA.

And I dont see a problem with Data retention, seeing as how a National Prosecutor can deny the FBI access requests if they wish.

I can see them treating an encrypted hdd as a locked suitcase and could see them having the power to inspect it even from remote access if they had suspicion there was something on it. The best thing one could do would be to keep stuff on an external USB drive and plug it out when on line.

I think not. Searching your private file directory would be a serious breach of the 4th Amendment. And not having this facility has not prevented Police from tracking down child porn offenders: They simply use IP logs and Search Warrants. All very over the table.

The idea that Customs would search and prosecute your hard drive for DRM free music is absurd. It would be like finding a laptop in someone's luggage and demanding to see a receipt: its just not done.

Run_to_da_hills

Overheal wrote: »

I wasn't talking about the data retention I was talking about ACTA. .

European Trade Commission.

Acta faces mounting opposition

Petition calls for EC to be transparent on Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement negotiations

Questions & Answers on ACTA

Overheal wrote: »

Searching your private file directory would be a serious breach of the 4th Amendment. And not having this facility has not prevented Police from tracking down child porn offenders: They simply use IP logs and Search Warrants. All very over the table..

It looks like they are trying to bring in the same powers with copyright theft as they do with illegal drugs.

Overheal wrote: »

The idea that Customs would search and prosecute your hard drive for DRM free music is absurd. It would be like finding a laptop in someone's luggage and demanding to see a receipt: its just not done.

It would be up to you to keep receipts and have everything in order before you travel.

ricman

BRING cd case with you ,receipts , or just delete all your mp3s from the laptop.
its like people who are stopped for carrying hash on a plane.
How stupid are you?
IF you really need it ,i presume you can buy it in canada anyway.
IF i was going to canada ,id just put podcasts on the mp3 player.
i presume they,d prosecute you if you had a large no ,like dozens of drm free files.

Herb Powell

well this is a load of bollocks. ricman, how the hel is it like having hash on a plane???

Hank_Jones

To be honest the only negative thing about this is that companies will be able to decide what films and music will be available to you.

Where as with the internet, completely obscure films that most people have never heard of and have no chance of being release on dvd are still available to those who want them.

There's a rake load of 80's films I love that are never going to get released on dvd as there just isn't enough people pushing for releases.

Prof.Badass

Berkut wrote: »

Just so you know in case any of you are going to Saudi Arabia do not have movies/music on your laptop. As for your ipod forget about it.
Customs are scanning all electronic items such as laptops/mp3 players/phones etc...
Anyone found with illegal music/movies etc (they treat it all as illegal regardless) will be fined €120 and deported asap..
I work in a large multinational company and this came in to us last week that if we're traveling only bring a work laptop with absolutely nothing on it and your work phone.

I wonder what would happen if they found porn :eek:!

ricman

WHAT i mean is ,you can just delete all mp3s from, the laptop be4 you get on the plane.
AS IN whats the point in sum1 carrying a joint to say new york, on a plane.IF sum1 ,wants hash ,im, sure its possible to buy some in new york city.
WHY risk going thru customs for 5euros, worth of hash, or getting prosecuted.

THERE,s people who have been arrested for 1euros worth of hash, or sent back to ireland.IF you had copied mp3s,it would be better to delete em before you get on the plane.im not talking about sum1 trying to smuggle hash, just sum1 carrying a tiny amount ,like 1 or 2 rollups
some arabian countrys arrest people for having tiny amounts of hash,on their cloths,or shoes.

Nulty

ricman wrote: »

WHAT i mean is ,you can just delete all mp3s from, the laptop be4 you get on the plane.
AS IN whats the point in sum1 carrying a joint to say new york, on a plane.IF sum1 ,wants hash ,im, sure its possible to buy some in new york city.
WHY risk going thru customs for 5euros, worth of hash, or getting prosecuted.

THERE,s people who have been arrested for 1euros worth of hash, or sent back to ireland.IF you had copied mp3s,it would be better to delete em before you get on the plane.im not talking about sum1 trying to smuggle hash, just sum1 carrying a tiny amount ,like 1 or 2 rollups
some arabian countrys arrest people for having tiny amounts of hash,on their cloths,or shoes.

RICMAN, why the capitalised words at the beginning of every sentence?

MikeC101

vinylmesh wrote: »

I wonder what would happen if they found porn :eek:!

"I heard of one rapper Saudi Arabian customs guy that chopped this guys whole body off, just left his dick behind."

"Don't you mean they chopped off his dick?"

"No, I mean they held his dick and chopped his whole body off. Thats all he was in the end. A dick."

Dravokivich

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It would be up to you to keep receipts and have everything in order before you travel.

Of a laptop I bought 5 years ago?

vinylmesh wrote: »

I wonder what would happen if they found porn :eek:!

I s'pose they'd have to provide a network point so I can verify I subscribed for it...

Chairman Meow

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Its basically an update on a previous thread that may have implications on this country. I cannot see much of a conspiracy in it.

And if theres one type of piracy i hate, its CONS-piracy

Run_to_da_hills

Dravokivich wrote: »

Of a laptop I bought 5 years ago?

Your word against them if you are hauled over by customs.

old_aussie

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

May not be as easy as that as ID and formalities might have to be produced. Just get someone else in the household to registers under their own name.

Yeah, get the kids to register and have them damned for life for illegal downloads and make it cool for them to apply for jobs with their criminal record attached.

LighterGuy

So I guess the recent reports are right, that countries were in secret talks to introduce this for years as this thread is 2 years old.

biko

Use the recent ACTA thread.