All things 3.3

TheDoc

Figure it will be the main talking point for the next while, so to keep things concise.

I came home to a guild vent with people fuming they couldnt get into instances, there was like an hour lockout or some ****.

I just logged into what felt like id left the game 6 months, complete mayhem, dont know what im doing

Kiith

The new 5-man instances are great. Gear and difficulty aside, they are great fun. Arthas is great in it, and its got a nice epic feel to it. Managed to get myself from 1100 spell power to 1700 in a few hours :P

The new map is good, and the cross server lfg seems to work well.

TheDoc

So messed around a little.

The LFG system is fantastic, I love it, the way you can select what you want etc, fantastic.

The LFR system is the same.

Buff box is a nice idea, as is the debuff on bosses, saviour for warlocks and druids.

The rewards for me, is a good thing,yes its easier, yes its slacker friendly, so for me, its epic


Granted instance servers are full, to be expected for the coming week, other then that, I'm seriously impressed..


Even the 3.3 release trailer was immense

Magill

Enjoying my rogue.... 9k dps in 10 mans is fun... while it lasts.

Splinter

really really happy with shadowpriests now. they didn't overly buff us, seemed to just do a good job. will have to wait and see how we scale with t10. did the new heroics last night on my pally tank. quite enjoyable, halls of reflection was a bit of a bugger with all the ranged adds but glad to have a heroic that we cant just aoe down really nicely done imo. didnt get into ICC, heading in for the ten man tonight so fingers crossed it goes well.

Berns

Tried tankin 1st boss on the 3rd new instance. One where get 10 waves. Couldnt manage to get past the 3rd/4th wave on it That said was a blood DK with possibly ulduar level gear just as is an alt. Was a nightmare to try and tank it That said lookin forward to finally gettin a decent trinket and cloak on my main (Rogue) with the emblems and even the trinket from heroic dungeon there, it may be more combat based though.

nix

Crappy patch so far imo.

I was looking forward to ICC but over 30 raiders online and im still on trial so had to sitout without rolling

I was raging inside :mad:

Then i tried the new group tool and its not as good as i anticipated :rolleyes:

People leaving when you enter instance, instances not opening as too many open (knew this would be a problem tbh how come blizz didnt :rolleyes: )

I even got entered into one of the new heroics when the group had cleared all the way to last boss, this one really pissed me off, im doing heroics for badges and possibley loot for offspec i dont want to get saved to a one badge instance.

The cash/badge rewards are a nice touch though and will keep me using the tool, the weekly raid daily is v nice, we had to kill patch and had it done in about 15mins, shorter than a heroic tbh. I hope the others are more of a challenge considering its a weekly thing =/

Nehaxak

I love the new cross server lfg/lfr.
Done the starting quest for the new instances early this morning on my DK and just thought I'd try the new lfg and see how it went. Completed the whole 3 instances with the same pug and only wiped once due to the tank making a bad pull.
Really enjoyed it now, new instances are pretty good.

Pumping out some nice dps dual weilding on my DK now too.

elexes

nix wrote: »

I even got entered into one of the new heroics when the group had cleared all the way to last boss, this one really pissed me off, im doing heroics for badges and possibley loot for offspec i dont want to get saved to a one badge instance.

ye i entered one where only the last boss was killed. annoying to say the liest.

Karl Hungus

Berns wrote: »

Tried tankin 1st boss on the 3rd new instance. One where get 10 waves. Couldnt manage to get past the 3rd/4th wave on it That said was a blood DK with possibly ulduar level gear just as is an alt. Was a nightmare to try and tank it That said lookin forward to finally gettin a decent trinket and cloak on my main (Rogue) with the emblems and even the trinket from heroic dungeon there, it may be more combat based though.

What you do there is fairly simple, have everyone hide around the corner in one of the alcoves where the bosses are, and they'll all come to you bunched up. LoS ftw!

Nehaxak

Karl Hungus wrote: »

What you do there is fairly simple, have everyone hide around the corner in one of the alcoves where the bosses are, and they'll all come to you bunched up. LoS ftw!

^^ Yep, works great. Druid healer in the group today had done the instance yesterday so told us this trick and we waltzed through it.

Splinter

bugger... we did this the hard way... wasnt fun

aligator_am

Nehaxak wrote: »

I love the new cross server lfg/lfr.
Done the starting quest for the new instances early this morning on my DK and just thought I'd try the new lfg and see how it went. Completed the whole 3 instances with the same pug and only wiped once due to the tank making a bad pull.
Really enjoyed it now, new instances are pretty good.

Pumping out some nice dps dual weilding on my DK now too.

Aye, same here, really like the cross server LFG feature, same as yourself we went through all 3 instances, was my first time in there too so was really good to see fresh content again

We didn't wipe but on the boss with the waves of mobs I did die, looks like one of those mages 2 shotted me lol but the shadow priest that was with us was actually a really good healer to boot so he saved the day

One thing that did annoy me was the bug with the ship at the end, I went too far onto ship and got DC'd, when I relogged I somehow got the final quest to speak to Jaina but couldn't complete it as when you try to leave the ship you DC.

A word of warning, don't jump off the ship!!! lol I had to relog about 15 times and each time I appeared in mid air, hit the ground, game froze and DC'd, lol eventually I just appeared in Westfall :S

Karl Hungus

Splinter wrote: »

bugger... we did this the hard way... wasnt fun

Did it that way myself too, had quite a few wipes I tell ya.

Splinter

aligator_am wrote: »

Aye, same here, really like the cross server LFG feature, same as yourself we went through all 3 instances, was my first time in there too so was really good to see fresh content again

We didn't wipe but on the boss with the waves of mobs I did die, looks like one of those mages 2 shotted me lol but the shadow priest that was with us was actually a really good healer to boot so he saved the day

One thing that did annoy me was the bug with the ship at the end, I went too far onto ship and got DC'd, when I relogged I somehow got the final quest to speak to Jaina but couldn't complete it as when you try to leave the ship you DC.

A word of warning, don't jump off the ship!!! lol I had to relog about 15 times and each time I appeared in mid air, hit the ground, game froze and DC'd, lol eventually I just appeared in Westfall :S

got the shaman in our group to do it. i stood on the edge and jumped onto the lower ledge under the main deck of the zepplin and he thought i just jumped off so followed me.. idiot :pac:

TheDoc

Ran the normal 5 man instances ( new ones this morning) and really enjoyed them big time. Had a ball.

The dungeon finder was fixed this morning, with the number of people down so you could enter instances, and I was finding groups within 4 minutes it was great.

Before you select yourself into an instance you can clearly see how many bosses are down, so I don't see the problem there.

Its great fun, havnt had a chance to use the looknig for raid one yet , thats tomorrow, but so far I'm impressed.

And the option to only see my debuffs on a target is a ****ing godsend.

Splinter

TheDoc wrote: »

Ran the normal 5 man instances ( new ones this morning) and really enjoyed them big time. Had a ball.

The dungeon finder was fixed this morning, with the number of people down so you could enter instances, and I was finding groups within 4 minutes it was great.

Before you select yourself into an instance you can clearly see how many bosses are down, so I don't see the problem there.

Its great fun, havnt had a chance to use the looknig for raid one yet , thats tomorrow, but so far I'm impressed.

And the option to only see my debuffs on a target is a ****ing godsend.

i havnt tested this debuff/buff thing yet, do you mind me asking, does it show countdown timers like quartz/omnicc does?

nix

TheDoc wrote: »

Ran the normal 5 man instances ( new ones this morning) and really enjoyed them big time. Had a ball.

The dungeon finder was fixed this morning, with the number of people down so you could enter instances, and I was finding groups within 4 minutes it was great.

Before you select yourself into an instance you can clearly see how many bosses are down, so I don't see the problem there.

Its great fun, havnt had a chance to use the looknig for raid one yet , thats tomorrow, but so far I'm impressed.

And the option to only see my debuffs on a target is a ****ing godsend.

I dont choose my instance, i go with automatic for the extra gold/badges :P

fatjebus

Load of absolute dogdick, at least you'll be able to gear up blue geared alts with 4x conquest gear in a week.

ICC is dramatically easy.......WP! blizzard!

StinkyMunkey

Love it tbh, dont have loads of free time to play and gear up. and when i do play its late at night. Getting in dungeons is no longer a pain.

expediateclimb

Tried it yesterday and while the new system for groups seems like a good idea I had a problem with being able to enter any dungeons as they were all full. Hopefully that'll be rectified in the nxt few days.

The trailer for the new patch does look pretty cool, Arthas under that helmet looks like he's pissing his pants

papajimsmooth

Is there a cap on the number of heroics i can run now with the random instance lfg, or is still one of each a day?

nix

well i was able to run the pit instance twice today, i got it through random group search so maybe its only possible through that..

Berns

new lfg system. One of our guildy's, not the best geared, tried to do lookin for raid last night for ICC i think. Gotta message sayin that gearscore wasn't high enuff bye bye carried pugs

Splinter

So we got 2 raids together for ICC last night, ten mans. really good fun. nice fights, epic trash though (i missed trash,stupid toc). first boss is ok, agro is a little funny after the bone whirl but that was a dbm issue i think. Lady deathwhisper is good aswell, interesting debuff. loved the gunship battle i have to say.really really good fun that one and never saw the fourth boss as people had to leave. either way, i quite like the place

2 Espressi

The new LFG system is great, everyone I met last night was kinda stunned by how quick it is to get a group now, and not having to get a couple of players to a meeting stone is a major plus. I got into two random dungeon groups last night in a matter of minutes.

A couple of times I was in a group where no-one had done the instance before, which shows how few people were doing dungeons up to now. We also had a few tanks bailing on us in RFK because someone fell off a bridge or something, and they didn't feel like waiting. The new system is going to show up poorer players a lot quicker, but I suppose these players also have the perfect opportunity to play in a group now, so everyone should skill up a bit faster.

nix

I take it back, the system is prooving to be great. pretty much all groups have been great and we plowed through the heroics.

Although some gimps ninjaing looting is annoying, i dont really care but i want me orbs for my icy prisms

The halls of reflection is pretty cool with the lich king chasing, love the ship opening fire on him at the end, reminded me of neo coming to morpheuses rescue on the chopper with the mini gun in the matrix

kayos

Much for the LFG system. Quick and easy to find groups and normally not a group of noob cakes either. Although thats the role I play on my rogue :P.

DapperGent

Is anyone else having issues with looting? My shaman can't need on caster cloth, I don't know if this is because he's currently specced enhance or because it's cloth. Only came up when priest healer and me both decided to roll on offspec caster gear and I couldn't, I didn't hear that they'd put in loot priorities in the random raids.

Great system in general but.

Nick_oliveri

Whats the story with "link achiev plz", is that gone out the window with the LFR system?

TheDoc

You are restricted to looting items that dont match you class.

Mages can only roll on cloth and nothing else
Warriors can only roll on plate and mail with attack power or tank stats, they cant roll on mail with spellpower.


What you can roll on depends on your spec and your class. If you need things for offspec, they must be traded to you by one of the other party members. Which is a brilliant idea.

The absolute pain in the tits I used to get with classes that could wear leather and mail rolling on cloth items was ****ing annoying. Nevermind those sly bastards who would quickly change spec and say " main spec i need" it essentially just took all that bull**** out of there.

I've noticed a severe drop in the number of people asking for achievements. You can only enter heroics or raids, if you have the required item level. So you know when someone is randomly thrown into your group, they have the amount of gear required to do the instance, and the only factor left is their skill, which was hardly ever found out before hand either.

So in essence, I've noticed " whisper achievement" gone over night which is fantastic, and something blizzard said they wanted to get away from. Achievements never were and never will be a measure of ksill, its just a fun extra.

You can run any heroic instance as much as you want through the random system. You cannot specifically choose to run pit of saron or halls of lighning over and over, however, you have no lockouts when you do random search. Which means in theory, you could do five runs of any heroic daily. But its random, and the generator does best to match you into an instance you have not done for that day.

Its a fantastic system thats working a treat.

And I think its got a bonus for people like me, in guilds like mine. The odd time we are kinda stuck for maybe a dps or something similar for our ten man runs.

We just have a nosey at Looking for Raid, and you can just pick someone, knowing they are geared for it. Something that could be achieved previously, but after having to armoury inspect and achieve inspect, you just know now someone requesting Toc10, can do ToC10.

We also had a ****ing immense experience doing an ulduar 25.

We thought " If the LFD system can match a 3man group with a 2man group into a 5man, maybe it can mix our 10 man with another 15 or 10 man."

Long and behold, we got merged with another ten man guild for Ulduar 25 in a matter of minutes, and we just got the last 5 dps and off we went. And Ulduar 25 man run, that took less then 10 minutes to setup, and was a joy to do.

Might have been pure pot luck, but we are doing our ten mans tonight and going to try the system again for a 25 man later in the evening and I'll report back.

All in all I'm thoroughly impressed, and from reading elsewhere like other fan forums and official forums, the patch has been a resounding success, and theres only minute and i mean very minute " omfg scrub patch 3.3" "welcome to Scrub craft"

Good job Blizzard, youve never let me down ever

HereticPrincess

DapperGent wrote: »

Is anyone else having issues with looting? My shaman can't need on caster cloth, I don't know if this is because he's currently specced enhance or because it's cloth. Only came up when priest healer and me both decided to roll on offspec caster gear and I couldn't, I didn't hear that they'd put in loot priorities in the random raids.

Great system in general but.

There is actually something with that ...
I can't check now as I'm in work

But a guy in our guild who is a druid couldn't need on leather / or was it mail .. something like that as there was someones class in the party who primarily wears that gear & they got it.

But again thats a rough idea, I'm not totally sure at the moment if it's a bug.#

EDIT : as I was typing this, someone was able to post the proper details

Nehaxak

Couple of issues I've had now so far are some really poor tanks, warriors in particular it seems and one druid last night in pvp gear tanking
Some poor healing priests also.

A lot of ninja'ing going on, tanks rolling need on dps loot, dps rolling on tanking loot, really annoying. I know there's dual specs but you should be rolling need on your main spec you're running in the instance.

Most people also rolling need on the orbs while others rolling greed, so it's confusing. Reckon it'll turn out everyone will just roll need on orbs in future.

Other than that though, been pretty much good fun and instances/groups are a lot more accessible/available.

Generally overall now I like the changes a lot.

Dcully

Only resubbed lastnight,i tried the dungeon finder and it is simply amazing and for me quite possibly the biggest single addition blizz have put into the game.
In a matter of minutes i find groups on my priest.
I havent tried my dps or tank classes yet.

The only flaw i came across in the three runs ive done was some hunter got a sword or polearm from the first boss in one of the new 5 mans,he instantly left the group and with the cross server scenario we had no way of contacting him,it seems people can come and go as they please with no repercutins at all.
Is there anyway of blacklisting people so we are not matched with them in the future?

Mena

Dcully wrote: »

Is there anyway of blacklisting people so we are not matched with them in the future?

Apparently you won't be matched with people on your ignore list. Now, can you ignore cross-realm?

Dustaz

Mena wrote: »

Apparently you won't be matched with people on your ignore list. Now, can you ignore cross-realm?

/ignore <name> - <realm>

Karl Hungus

By jesus there's an awful irritating mob pathing bug that makes grouping up packs highly frustrating when you're tanking. One backstep, or sidestep and they all spazz out and go in all kinds of directions. Was tanking on my Death Knight in Pit of Saron and ended up with 4 mobs that kept staying behind me. It's really irritating and I hope we get a hotfix for it soon.

Other than that, I'm extremely impressed with the new looking for group feature. It's absolutely marvelous.

TechnoPool

using the LFR finder, you need a certain gear score before you can use it?


i cant seem to find it.

meh nvm :P

Lone Stone

Cool sounds like a good patch still waiting till the next xpack before i give it another bash.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

nix wrote: »

Crappy patch so far imo.

I was looking forward to ICC but over 30 raiders online and im still on trial so had to sitout without rolling

I was raging inside :mad:

And that's blizzards fault somehow???

nix

Gael Crooked Keystroke wrote: »

And that's blizzards fault somehow???

Helps to read the rest of the information connected to my post

nix wrote: »

Crappy patch so far imo.



Then i tried the new group tool and its not as good as i anticipated :rolleyes:

People leaving when you enter instance, instances not opening as too many open (knew this would be a problem tbh how come blizz didnt :rolleyes: )

I even got entered into one of the new heroics when the group had cleared all the way to last boss, this one really pissed me off, im doing heroics for badges and possibley loot for offspec i dont want to get saved to a one badge instance.

My dismay at the time was in regards to the above occurances, being unable to raid added to my frustration, hence why i said it was a crappy patch, never on patch day was i left so bored/frustrated.

I'm not even sure why you bothered posting tbh as you clearly didnt read my post :rolleyes:

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Karl Hungus wrote: »

By jesus there's an awful irritating mob pathing bug that makes grouping up packs highly frustrating when you're tanking. One backstep, or sidestep and they all spazz out and go in all kinds of directions. Was tanking on my Death Knight in Pit of Saron and ended up with 4 mobs that kept staying behind me. It's really irritating and I hope we get a hotfix for it soon.

Strafe in circles.

Kiith

Thinking i might try and gear my Paladin up and do some tanking. Getting a bit bored of dps'ing with my characters, and could do with some actual responsibility in groups. Maybe that'll give me more of an incentive to keep playing. Given that we technically can't automatically roll on offspec gear now, would it be easier to just tank some of the easier normal instances to slowly build up my gear, or do the heroics as Retribution, with a Druid tank, and roll on the gear then?

TheDoc

Getting emblems for fun, i give a within a week before my druid is healing and dpsing raids, immense

Lone Stone

Is there a way to add friends now that are on other server's now ?

Falcon.ie

I dunno, fairly mixed reviews on my part so far. First few instances I ran were fine, loved the LFG feature. But the last 4/5 instances I've come across quite a few players who were poorly geared. Came across a Ret Pally with a mix of Tanking/DPS gear/PvP gear and the odd green to boot. He pretty much needed on everything Tanking/DPS plate. When questioned why he was needing on the Tanking stuff he said it was his main spec...Pissed me right off. Horrible DPS to boot obv. And I couldn't kick him since I had already started a boot on a all greens/blues healer.

Other than that, loving the new instances. Nice change of pace.

Karl Hungus

The Quel'Delar quest chain was extremely epic.

Nehaxak

Can't believe now how short a time it's taken me to upgrade my dps gear on the DK. I had only Naxx/Ulduar related gear and weapons since I stopped raiding but over the last couple days since the patch I've upgraded my Waist, Boots, 2 x rings, Sigil, Chest, neck and 3 x new 1h weapons (I used 2 x Angry Dreads previously). Even managed to get into an Ony 25 group and got the Raging Deathbringer 1h axe.

Frost lotus seems to have a higher drop rate when herbing and I also seem to be getting more procs with elixir mastery, oh and my flasks are all selling very quick (35g ea) as more people doing instances/raiding than normal I guess.
Dead happy with the patch

Joneser

I havn't played wow since the summer and doubt I will go back to it until may, but this latest patch has gotten me extremely interested again, all i liked doing was lvling alts by doing instances, and it seems like that would be much easier to do now, one question tho, are you allowed to do each heroic more than once a day now or is it still fixed at 1 a day?

Nehaxak

Just had Drake mounted crossbox ninja'd by a poxy rotten rogue. That just absolutely sucks.
Hunters should be given absolute priority on ranged weapons :mad:

Hátbaszur-Bloodscalp was the ninja, so please if you're in the same Battlegroup and see him, remove him from your party.

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