Multiplayer is Sh1t!!!

BlackEdelweiss

Does anyone else think multiplayer is **** and wish they would concentrate more on making the one player game longer and more challenging?

opinion guy

No.

It's unashamedly a multiplayer game. It does exactly what it says on the tin.

Deal with it

FutureGuy

opinion guy wrote: »

No.

It's unashamedly a multiplayer game. It does exactly what it says on the tin.

Deal with it

Modern Warfare 2 single player is an amusing little diversion. When my internet is down. I bought MW2 purely for it's incredible multi-player and I am sure that most of the people here did the same.

nevaeh-2die-4

multiplayer is great.

quank

Multiplayer is epic. Thought the single player is grand and special-ops is fantastic.

opinion guy

FutureGuy wrote: »

Modern Warfare 2 single player is an amusing little diversion. When my internet is down. I bought MW2 purely for it's incredible multi-player and I am sure that most of the people here did the same.

Yeah i actually think some of the cut scenes are really atmospheric even if the script is ****e.

weiland79

I bought it for single player,which i enjoyed immensly played it through several times got all the intel(although i had to cheat with the one on the snow mobiles,how the hell are you supposed to find that)
As for the multiplayer,I can't put it down It's so much fun never really played any multiplayer games and am now up to level 43 and getting better every day.I love the leveling up system and am just starting to rock the M16 bring it on.

Washington Irving

BlackEdelweiss wrote: »

Does anyone else think multiplayer is **** and wish they would concentrate more on making the one player game longer and more challenging?

I don't think multiplayer is great either. I wouldn't say its sh!t, but a bit disappointing in my opinion.

FutureGuy wrote: »

Modern Warfare 2 single player is an amusing little diversion. When my internet is down. I bought MW2 purely for it's incredible multi-player and I am sure that most of the people here did the same.

I also bought it for multiplayer but have been playing campaign and spec-ops most of the time as I think multiplayer was a bit disappointing as I said above. It just doesn't feel right and I don't like the maps.

armour87

Which multiplayer FPS isn't occasionally frustrating? Particularly to the more skilled players as they (we ) have higher expectations. But, ultimately this is a brilliant game in every respect.

Luap

BlackEdelweiss wrote: »

Does anyone else think multiplayer is **** and wish they would concentrate more on making the one player game longer and more challenging?

Who's a moody michael:pac:

weiland79

Maloney_o9 wrote: »

Who's a moody michael:pac:

Ha Ha Moody Michael that's funny!

weisses

FutureGuy wrote: »

Modern Warfare 2 single player is an amusing little diversion. When my internet is down. I bought MW2 purely for it's incredible multi-player and I am sure that most of the people here did the same.

I couldn't play sp because steam was down one day ... just unplugged my router ... and surprise surprise ..can't play the SP cause of steam ... so could you tell me how u did play the SP ??


OP ... ur right the multiplayer is CRAP ... for pc

ronkmonster

You have to run single player parts of games once on steam before you can set it up for offline play.
One of the bad parts of steam.

I bought MW2 for the single player but I did enjoy the multiplayer for a bit.
I generally prefer single player games anyway or a bit of left 4 dead.

Gone Drinking

I'd say the only reason you don't like the multiplayer is because you suck at it.

Ppractice, practice, practice.

BobbitoDigital

its probly the best online multiplayer of all time in my opinion, saying its s*** must mean your muck at it

saltie

I love it. It just clicked with me last night and i was getting wins and coming i nthe top three most of the time. Once it clicks beware of the addictionnessnessnesss

DOC09UNAM

i thought the maps sucked too, until i played the shiit out of it for a few days...

When you get the hang of them they are awesome.

I mean Rust on Free-For-All...

There is no better fun in a multiplayer game.

Blazer

BobbitoDigital wrote: »

its probly the best online multiplayer of all time in my opinion, saying its s*** must mean your muck at it

this is your first multiplayer game..isn't it?;)
Have you not heard of BF2/Battlefield Vietnam/BF1942/COD1,2,4?
All far better than MW2..

weisses

For me ... a PC gamer used to the kind of gameplay MoH, CoD provided for the last decade, this is the biggest fail i ever bought and I am playing fps for more then 10 years now

This game is made for the console with the fps p2p crap mp that goes with it

Pc gaming or console gaming ... two totally different things ....

Yep I'm spoiled playing cod4 HC on a dedicated server with a ping of 40

Soby

Hmmm multiplayer which can has basically unlimited game play for just single player which could be prob be made a day longer of gaming...

Yellowledbetter

I got the game on release day and only started playing it online last nite coz to be honest I just never got into the online thing,low and behold Im think Im becoming addicted.
It does take a while to get into(I kept getting killed before i walked 10 feet at first) but its well worth sticking with coz you will eventually start getting the hang of it and it becomes very rewarding.
Have to go to work now and i wish i could bring my PS3 with me!!!!

Keano

I really enjoy the multi-player, while totally crap but I will someday be good

Nemesis

I cant walk about without losing control let alone target someone and shoot them! .

I find online playing very frustrating..is there any servers dedicated to total console noobs.

I've played FPS Since Quake1 but with mouse and keyboard.

My kids kill me with such ease...Maybe I should drag them to a DM4 deathmatch on Q1 for revenge!

RAIN

I love the multiplayer, very refined. Kill boxes are a little odd and the Javelin Glitch was rampant last night but I mainly play Domination so not really an issue there. Very hard to not use anything that you have maxed though.Scar with bling 4 ever.

I love the heartbeat sensor with all my heart

Adyx

Berkut wrote: »

this is your first multiplayer game..isn't it?;)
Have you not heard of BF2/Battlefield Vietnam/BF1942/COD1,2,4?
All far better than MW2..

Definitely. I actually went and bought BF2 again recently (had lost the original and its only €10) just because it's so much better as a multiplayer game than MW2. MW2 is a pleasant enough diversion but there's only so much fun you can get from a game where the only objective is to kill everyone else. I know that's part of BF2 too but at least in BF2 you feel like you're part of a team with actual objectives to capture. MW2 is not the worst ever but I'll probably trade it in soon. Bad Company 2 anyone?

Soby

Adyx wrote: »

only so much fun you can get from a game where the only objective is to kill everyone else.In BF2 you feel like you're part of a team with actual objectives to capture.

Like search + destory,domination,sabotage?

Lab_Mouse

weisses wrote: »

For me ... a PC gamer used to the kind of gameplay MoH, CoD provided for the last decade, this is the biggest fail i ever bought and I am playing fps for more then 10 years now

This game is made for the console with the fps p2p crap mp that goes with it

Pc gaming or console gaming ... two totally different things ....

Yep I'm spoiled playing cod4 HC on a dedicated server with a ping of 40

get over it:rolleyes:

weisses

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

get over it:rolleyes:

was just responding to the OP

If you have nothing constructive to post i suggest you troll somewhere else

Lab_Mouse

weisses wrote: »

was just responding to the OP

the OP's post was about the single player game basically just being an add on and he thinks the MP is crap.You didnt mention the single player game,you had your rant about the PC gamers being ****ed over cos of the dedicated servers and custom maps,And your right but the gameplay hasnt changed.The multi player is still good.

I also play MW and Cod on the pc,so im not just coming from a console direction

weisses

BlackEdelweiss wrote: »

Does anyone else think multiplayer is **** and wish they would concentrate more on making the one player game longer and more challenging?

I agree the multiplayer is ****e for the reasons i gave .... maybe he thinks the same i don't know forgot about the sp (was to short to remember)

and its not a rant ... pc players got screwed ...that's a fact ... bought it tried it and i think its utter ****e ...

but hey the boose got cheaper so I stop complaining for the time being :D

MiCr0

weisses wrote: »

and its not a rant ... pc players got screwed ...that's a fact

how did they get screwed?
they got the same product at as everyone else?

DOC09UNAM

MiCr0 wrote: »

how did they get screwed?
they got the same product at as everyone else?

- dedicated servers for online play.

But swings and roundabouts, didn't PC get extra features for Dragon Age???

weisses

MiCr0 wrote: »

how did they get screwed?
they got the same product at as everyone else?

MW2 is a console port.

Compared to previous CoD MoH series this game lacks all the support for a proper gameplay ie no dedicated servers. The fact that they left it out has all to do with making money on future DLC and to keep total control and not creating the best gameplay for everyone

Even isp are starting to come down on PC gamers because playing through IW'S superior p2p connection they think gamers are illegally downloading so they get throttled

Still not convinced ? just check all the different official fora

Adyx

Soby wrote: »

Like search + destory,domination,sabotage?

Yes but even in these games all it comes down to is running around shooting people in the face and there is rarely if any teamplay in my experience.

death1234567

Adyx wrote: »

Yes but even in these games all it comes down to is running around shooting people in the face and there is rarely if any teamplay in my experience.

That's nothing to do with the game, its the people your playing with.

Keyzer

BlackEdelweiss wrote: »

Does anyone else think multiplayer is **** and wish they would concentrate more on making the one player game longer and more challenging?

I bought it for the multiplayer and havent even played the single player campaign...

Adyx

death1234567 wrote: »

That's nothing to do with the game, its the people your playing with.

Well it's not like I have much choice unless some of my mates are online too. But you're missing my point. I love the setting of MW(2) but I just think they could have made multiplayer so much better. There's little incentive to play as a team.

Keyzer

Adyx wrote: »

Well it's not like I have much choice unless some of my mates are online too. But you're missing my point. I love the setting of MW(2) but I just think they could have made multiplayer so much better. There's little incentive to play as a team.

Thats the same in all multiplayer games unless you're in a Clan or playing with mates.

I used to play BF2 religiously, that game was completely geared towards team play what with the ability to create squads etc. And most of the time your squad mates just used you to spawn on you and went off as lone wolves.

Play domination and try tagging up with other players and going around in groups... But you need to take the lead, don't expect other players to join with you, I have found that if I tag up with other players they tend to catch my drift and join in.

VinnyTGM

9/10 people who buy the game, probably do so for the multiplayer.

Adyx

Keyzer wrote: »

Thats the same in all multiplayer games unless you're in a Clan or playing with mates.

I used to play BF2 religiously, that game was completely geared towards team play what with the ability to create squads etc. And most of the time your squad mates just used you to spawn on you and went off as lone wolves.

Play domination and try tagging up with other players and going around in groups... But you need to take the lead, don't expect other players to join with you, I have found that if I tag up with other players they tend to catch my drift and join in.

True I suppose. I also did most of my multiplayer gaming in BF2 and BF2142 (was even in a clan for a while) so that's what I prefer. MW2 is good for a laugh with mates in short bursts though.

naughto

i bought it for the multiplayer knew the single player would be short if it dident have it no way id have bought it

citizen_p

:mad:i hate that little bit of auto aim......your aiming a sniper rifle at a guys head.... just as your about too shoot a guy sprints past his position and your aimer is thrown off.....

grrrrrrr

hightower1

BlackEdelweiss wrote: »

Does anyone else think multiplayer is **** and wish they would concentrate more on making the one player game longer and more challenging?

Agree completely, I never play online. I am sick of interacting with other people at the end of the days work and want to unwind with a good single play. MOD2 single player was a joke considering how good mod1's was. They should have made it clearer that this time its a mutiplayer only game like left for dead.
Suffice to say when mod 3 comes out I will rent first.

If I wanted to play a team game I'd get a game of soccer not play video games.
Get assassins creed, now that a class act and a good lesson for IW on how to make a VIDEO GAME not a multiplayer lobby.

In fact games like these shouldn't be called GAMES any more, there is no game to speak of, no story of reward for completing levels just wham bam thank you mam sulkyplayer.

The single player was mod modelled after a Micheal Bay style movie, here is the dev team saying this....

http://www.gametrailers.com/episode/gametrailers-tv/80?ch=4&sd=1

Good call IW, cause Micheal Bay and his work isnt considered to be a complete pile of infected c**ks...

Nietzschean

weisses wrote: »

MW2 is a console port.

not true.

Compared to previous CoD MoH series this game lacks all the support for a proper gameplay ie no dedicated servers.

gameplay != how multiplayer connections work.

The fact that they left it out has all to do with making money on future DLC and to keep total control and not creating the best gameplay for everyone

There are lots of not quite so nefarious reasons why they would have gone the match making route. Uniform interface/testing setup being one. Casual gamers are given in all likely hood a more enjoyable experience than with dedicated. Sure hurts clans/large groups but those at the end of the day are a small market segment.

Even isp are starting to come down on PC gamers because playing through IW'S superior p2p connection they think gamers are illegally downloading so they get throttled

isp's having crap filtering s(h)/w isn't IW's fault

Still not convinced ? just check all the different official fora

The only official fora on the game is @ IW's site, unlikely you'll find it there.

weisses

point 1 disagree specially compared to previous cod games

point 2 disagree ... they went from a superior online gameplay to crap p2p gameplay .... thats a fact ... pc magazines where not allowed to make a review before official release ...

point 3 disagree ... ..why not create both ... p2p for the casual ones gamers and dedicated support for proper gamers when u are so concerned about your gamers its about control control control.
.. if casual gamers are supposed to be to dumb to find a game/map and connect to a dedicated server they fancy ...they sure not smart enough to change the NAT settings on their router

point 4 disagree again ...Its a fact that isp are throttling people for excessive usage of bandwidth it's something they should have known @ IW and being throtteld means you cant play the game @ night ..

point 5 disagree ... check that forum maybe should have left out the word official

Nietzschean

weisses wrote: »

point 1 disagree specially compared to previous cod games

Look up what console port means then. Parallel development targeting multiple platforms is not a console port. Most game dev teams pick a console as a lead target because of their commercial requirement and also performance characteristics. In general what runs fast/looks pretty on an xbox will run fast and look pretty on a pc. Keeping consoles in mind from the beginning is done mostly for performance/memory reasons.

point 2 disagree ... they went from a superior online gameplay to crap p2p gameplay .... thats a fact ... pc magazines where not allowed to make a review before official release ...

p2p is a means to achieve connections between players. Latency from using p2p might impact gameplay capabilities but it does not change gameplay. Several games have embargoed reviews prior to launch of the title, I don't see how its relevent.

point 3 disagree ... ..why not create both ... p2p for the casual ones gamers and dedicated support for proper gamers when u are so concerned about your gamers its about control control control.

I like it, you call yourself a proper gamer, yet you've glossed over that using dedicated servers in the past hasn't exactly been a bump free ride. For a great example see BF2's initial MP issues.

.. if casual gamers are supposed to be to dumb to find a game/map and connect to a dedicated server they fancy ...they sure not smart enough to change the NAT settings on their router

To start with IW is published by Activision who own DemonWare, so I presume they use their networking library which can be quite successful in poking holes through a lot of nat types.

And imo its not their inability to use game browsers, its the near on impossibility to find people of your own level with dedicated servers without being involved in a community. For examples see CS, CS:S, BF:V, Cod4...
Mostly involve a mess of being wiped the floor with or doing the same to someone else.

Match makings biggest asset is that it avoids this.

point 4 disagree again ...Its a fact that isp are throttling people for excessive usage of bandwidth it's something they should have known @ IW and being throtteld means you cant play the game @ night ..

Sorry what? ISP's have been throttling connections before MW2, you expect IW to change their game because x ISP in y Country misconfigured their equipment? At the end of the day move isp's, customers leaving isp's will quickly make them fix equipment/settings or change them.

point 5 disagree ... check that forum maybe should have left out the word official

Its not official if its on their forum, as you've conceded there. That is no different than you saying it here, or monkeys on the moon.

knoximus

I'd say the only reason you don't like the multiplayer is because you suck at it.

Ppractice, practice, practice.

I agree.
MP kicks ass.

weisses

Nietzschean wrote: »

Most game dev teams pick a console as a lead target because of their commercial requirement and also performance characteristics. In general what runs fast/looks pretty on an xbox will run fast and look pretty on a pc.

But what works on a console will not always work on a pc .... Take bc2 they need more time to make the game perfect for pc because the pc is superior to the console ... so you can implement more and different things something IW failed to do with MW2

Nietzschean wrote: »

p2p is a means to achieve connections between players. Latency from using p2p might impact gameplay capabilities but it does not change gameplay.

when i experience much lag messed up anti lag crappy hosts etc etc then i consider that as crappy gameplay

Nietzschean wrote: »

I like it, you call yourself a proper gamer, yet you've glossed over that using dedicated servers in the past hasn't exactly been a bump free ride. For a great example see BF2's initial MP issues.

i winked ... i know dedicated servers are not gods gift to gamers

Nietzschean wrote: »

And imo its not their inability to use game browsers, its the near on impossibility to find people of your own level with dedicated servers without being involved in a community. For examples see CS, CS:S, BF:V, Cod4...
Mostly involve a mess of being wiped the floor with or doing the same to someone else. Match makings biggest asset is that it avoids this..

i saw people with rank 8 ot 9 being matched up against people who where on level 70 and getting wiped off the map .. happens all the time

Nietzschean wrote: »

Sorry what? ISP's have been throttling connections before MW2, you expect IW to change their game because x ISP in y Country misconfigured their equipment? At the end of the day move isp's, customers leaving isp's will quickly make them fix equipment/settings or change them.

So its okay that people cant play MW2 because IW/activision and all the isp are in a fight over p2p protocols MW2 for the ps3 is working fine with p2p btw

opinion guy

Keyzer wrote: »

Play domination and try tagging up with other players and going around in groups... But you need to take the lead, don't expect other players to join with you, I have found that if I tag up with other players they tend to catch my drift and join in.

Sorry ? Tagging ? tag up ? What's that ?

hightower1 wrote: »

Agree completely, I never play online. I am sick of interacting with other people at the end of the days work and want to unwind with a good single play. MOD2 single player was a joke considering how good mod1's was. They should have made it clearer that this time its a mutiplayer only game like left for dead.

Interacting ? Who said anything about interacting. I take off my headset unless a friend is on and just start shooting. I play better that way too

Nietzschean

weisses wrote: »

But what works on a console will not always work on a pc .... Take bc2 they need more time to make the game perfect for pc because the pc is superior to the console ... so you can implement more and different things something IW failed to do with MW2

PC has more performance and more memory, which is obviously superior. But i imagine in the case of a BF series game its probably to do with control scheme's and interfaces for some of the vehicles/team/squad stuff. I don't know what you expected them to put in a PC version of a pure fps they couldn't put into a console one?

when i experience much lag messed up anti lag crappy hosts etc etc then i consider that as crappy gameplay

Sorry but play with other people or get a faster connection. Yes p2p does tend to lead to more latency problems. Its not perfect, its its big obvious defect, but then again thats not gameplay.

i saw people with rank 8 ot 9 being matched up against people who where on level 70 and getting wiped off the map .. happens all the time

there have been only 2 reasons i've played against anyone below level 50 since i got above it
1) Prestige mode
2) in a party with players of a higher rank(often clans)

In my experience it doesn't happen all the time, and level != true skill rating. Which isn't perfect in the game when larger groups form but 1/2 people its surprisingly effective.

So its okay that people cant play MW2 because IW/activision and all the isp are in a fight over p2p protocols MW2 for the ps3 is working fine with p2p btw

the ISP is in a fight with torrent users. IW/Activison arn't fighting anyone, they provide a service, if your isp isn't supplying a service get a new one. not IW's fault. MW2 for the ps3 might use a different port range, but its putting through the same sort of traffic as the pc one, so if the performance is different for some users that again is some silly filtering by the ISP. Should activison do something about users with 3G modems ? or those behind firewalls?

weisses

Nietzschean wrote: »

Sorry but play with other people or get a faster connection. Yes p2p does tend to lead to more latency problems. Its not perfect, its its big obvious defect, but then again thats not gameplay.

My connection is fine 3/2 down/up i play cod4 on uk servers with a ping of 50 but it took me 20 minutes to get into a match of mw2 this afternoon

Nietzschean wrote: »

there have been only 2 reasons i've played against anyone below level 50 since i got above it
1) Prestige mode
2) in a party with players of a higher rank(often clans)

In my experience it doesn't happen all the time, and level != true skill rating. Which isn't perfect in the game when larger groups form but 1/2 people its surprisingly effective.

So it does happen .. there goes the whole idea of the casual gamer playing against other casual gamers, ..."Match makings biggest asset is that it avoids this" .... that's your quote

Nietzschean wrote: »

the ISP is in a fight with torrent users. IW/Activison arn't fighting anyone, they provide a service, if your isp isn't supplying a service get a new one. not IW's fault. MW2 for the ps3 might use a different port range, but its putting through the same sort of traffic as the pc one, so if the performance is different for some users that again is some silly filtering by the ISP. Should activison do something about users with 3G modems ? or those behind firewalls?

Change provider just to play a MW2!!?? what planet are you on !! since when do i the consumer have to suffer because some greedy game developer can't get their act together and provide a gaming solution for everyone like i said before ... if IW is so convinced about iw-net being superior over dedicated servers why not implement both ...everyone is happy then .. you can use iw net and i can log on to those tricky dedi servers