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Going Rogue

  • 07-12-2009 9:15pm
    #1
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    Sarah Palin is traveling America book signing her memoir "Going Rogue." Book reviews are in, and the origin of her book title speaks volumes:

    "Going Rogue, the title of Sarah Palin's erratic new memoir, comes from a phrase used by a disgruntled McCain aide to describe her going 'off-message' during the presidential campaign..."

    "The most sustained and vehement barbs in this book are directed not at Democrats or liberals or the news media, but at the McCain campaign..."

    Source: http://www.mercurynews.com/entertainment/ci_13902126?source=rss

    It would appear that Palin continues to drive the wedge between her and the McCain camp within the Republican party?

    Of course you would expect that Rush Limbaugh on his show would call the Palin memoir "one of the most substantive policy books I've read."

    Source: http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911130014

    "As with other stops on Palin's tour to promote her book, Going Rogue, the event was tightly controlled, with photographers allowed in briefly and reporters banned."

    Source: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/78665267.html

    If you were promoting your book, why would you have "reporters banned?" Worries about how a Katie Couric-like interview sequel might soften book sales, or future presidential aspirations?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Oh I think its fairly obvious the Wasilla Woman doesn't have the stones needed for Limelight. In fact I wonder why she went on this book tour at all. Should have stayed at home.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Overheal wrote: »
    Oh I think its fairly obvious the Wasilla Woman doesn't have the stones needed for Limelight. In fact I wonder why she went on this book tour at all. Should have stayed at home.
    Could it be that the book publisher gave her a $5 million USD advance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Palin wrote:
    "If God had not intended for us to eat animals? how come He made them out of meat?" - Sarah Palin
    Seriously>?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    If you were promoting your book, why would you have "reporters banned?"

    Geee… I can’t understand why as the media treated her sooooo fairly during and after the campaign. :rolleyes:

    All I know is that if Barack Obama's past had been subjected to even one tenth of the scrutiny during his candidacy by the media as did Sarah Palin, Obama would probably still be a junior senator from Illinois, and Hillary Clinton would have been the Democratic nominee.

    Why in the world would jourlanists care about the following when there were unanswered belly bump questions surrounding Palin?

    1. Why won’t Obama allow the public to see his doctor-generated, hospital-released birth certificate?
    2. Was Obama officially adopted by his Muslim stepfather when he lived in Indonesia with his mother and stepfather, from the ages of approximately 6 to 10 years old?
    3. Did Obama ever renounce his U.S. passport? Has Obama ever traveled internationally on a passport other than a U.S. State Department-issued passport?
    4. Did Obama travel to Pakistan as a student on a U.S. passport, or on an Indonesian passport? Why did Obama travel to Pakistan, who did he visit there and what was the purpose of the trip?
    5. How did Obama pay his tuition at the exclusive high school preparatory Punahou Academy he attended in Hawaii, as well as his college tuition at Occidental in California and at Columbia at New York?
    6. How did Obama pay his tuition at Harvard Law School?
    7. Why will Obama release none of the school records at any of the schools he attended?
    8. Obama’s school records in Indonesia show that at both the Catholic and public school he attended there he was registered as a “Muslim” and an “Indonesian Citizen.” Was Obama ever officially instructed in Islam, even in elementary school?
    9. Why has Obama refused to discuss the clients he served when he worked for the law firm of Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland in Chicago?
    10. Did Obama ever receive any money from the millions Rezko borrowed to redevelop the low-income housing projects in Chicago that Rezko evidently defrauded of the improvements contracted by Obama's firm?
    11. Has Obama’s campaign instituted sufficient fiscal controls to determine if any credit card contributions made to his 2008 presidential campaign have come illegally from foreign sources? Have any such foreign contributions been reported to Federal Election Commission authorities and returned, as required by federal law?
    12. Has Obama ever renounced black liberation theology as espoused by its chief apologist, James Cone?
    13. Why have the detailed minutes and funding activities of the Woods Fund and the Annenberg Challenge documents in which William Ayers and Barack Obama participated never been completely released to the public?



    Here is a picture I took last fall during a campaign rally I attended.

    Palin.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Geee… I can’t understand why as the media treated her sooooo fairly during and after the campaign.
    The Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric news anchor interviews were very straight forward when viewing them, and later reading the transcripts. There were no trick questions, just poor answers by Sarah Palin, that later fueled criticism of her qualifications for the 2nd highest office in the nation.

    Before she was nominated for VP (which was a big surprise nationally at the time), she had already drawn adverse media attention in both Alaska and in the national press over her strong support to spend hundreds millions of dollars in highway funds for "The Bridge to Nowhere" (later she flip-flop against it after adverse national press). Further, she was being investigated by a bi-partisan committee of the Alaska legislature, and challenged by the Alaska media in the summer before the election for Trooper Gate, where she was accused of using her power as Governor to intervene in a family domestic dispute between her sister and her trooper husband. Both these scandals had been in full swing before anyone knew she was to be nominated for VP.

    After her VP nomination she did things that would draw media attention to any candidate for high office, not just her. For example, her very public spending spree ($150,000 Republican donated campaign funds) at the most expensive and posh stories in America, spending $75,000 in one day at Neiman Marcus for clothing and accessories was an exercise in good judgment for someone attempting to send the message of fiscal responsibility to the American public? Or was this amateurish and helped contribute to the split between her and the McCain camp (mentioned in her book)?

    This book is not about Obama's qualifications, but rather Sarah Palin's? So the long list of claims delineated by you about Obama is moot?

    Part of the qualifications for high office in this country is an ability to handle the mass media? Did she do that well? In her book, Palin blames the McCain team for her poor showing with the media?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Geee… I can’t understand why as the media treated her sooooo fairly during and after the campaign. :rolleyes:

    All I know is that if Barack Obama's past had been subjected to even one tenth of the scrutiny during his candidacy by the media as did Sarah Palin, Obama would probably still be a junior senator from Illinois, and Hillary Clinton would have been the Democratic nominee.

    Why in the world would jourlanists care about the following when there were unanswered belly bump questions surrounding Palin?

    1. Why won’t Obama allow the public to see his doctor-generated, hospital-released birth certificate?
    2. Was Obama officially adopted by his Muslim stepfather when he lived in Indonesia with his mother and stepfather, from the ages of approximately 6 to 10 years old?
    3. Did Obama ever renounce his U.S. passport? Has Obama ever traveled internationally on a passport other than a U.S. State Department-issued passport?
    4. Did Obama travel to Pakistan as a student on a U.S. passport, or on an Indonesian passport? Why did Obama travel to Pakistan, who did he visit there and what was the purpose of the trip?
    5. How did Obama pay his tuition at the exclusive high school preparatory Punahou Academy he attended in Hawaii, as well as his college tuition at Occidental in California and at Columbia at New York?
    6. How did Obama pay his tuition at Harvard Law School?
    7. Why will Obama release none of the school records at any of the schools he attended?
    8. Obama’s school records in Indonesia show that at both the Catholic and public school he attended there he was registered as a “Muslim” and an “Indonesian Citizen.” Was Obama ever officially instructed in Islam, even in elementary school?
    9. Why has Obama refused to discuss the clients he served when he worked for the law firm of Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland in Chicago?
    10. Did Obama ever receive any money from the millions Rezko borrowed to redevelop the low-income housing projects in Chicago that Rezko evidently defrauded of the improvements contracted by Obama's firm?
    11. Has Obama’s campaign instituted sufficient fiscal controls to determine if any credit card contributions made to his 2008 presidential campaign have come illegally from foreign sources? Have any such foreign contributions been reported to Federal Election Commission authorities and returned, as required by federal law?
    12. Has Obama ever renounced black liberation theology as espoused by its chief apologist, James Cone?
    13. Why have the detailed minutes and funding activities of the Woods Fund and the Annenberg Challenge documents in which William Ayers and Barack Obama participated never been completely released to the public?



    Here is a picture I took last fall during a campaign rally I attended.

    Palin.jpg
    It really comes down to what you want in a President. If you're deathly concerned that Obama is a secret muslim born not of this country, by all means you should have chosen palin. But I would have preferred someone who can answer simple questions like "Which newspapers do you read" without becoming a babbling mess.

    Of course I guess by your logic you would never wish to see Schwarzenegger as a president in any Future.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    When I was feeling pressure socially or at school while growing up, my Galway Gran used to quote with a wry grin, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!"

    Sarah Palin has held only two high pressure public offices during her career, Alaska commissioner of oil and gas, and Governor of Alaska (mayor of tiny Wasilla was a piece of cake). She quit her commissioner job after only one year, and quit governor halfway through the first term. Both occurred suddenly, without advance notice. Why so sudden?

    The suddenness when resigning as governor, which had surprised her own Republican supporters when it occurred, has not been adequately explained by Palin? Perhaps it got too hot in the kitchen?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Ah come on PJ. You will have to try harder than that to get a rise out of us. Anyway this is a political forum not a conspiracy forum. Some of those questions are just well looney.
    Anyway can you comment on this topic without having to reference Obama. ;)

    Palin just wants her money and is trying to extend her 15 minutes of fame for as long as possible. If that leads to a run for the GOP nomination than fair enough, after all there will be another book to write. If it doesnt well see can retire on her earnings. Fair play is what I say but try not to pretend it is otherwise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Wrong jank, all apropos to the question asked, of which I responded to.

    And 15 minutes of fame??? Who is being a goober now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I apologize for Jank: Replace "15 Minutes of Fame" with the phrase "$5 Million Advance" from the woman whom in her own book claims to lead a Frugal Lifestyle when the evil GOP isnt putting her into designer clothes. Shame on you GOP!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Lookie, lookie… much more than just selling a bookie!

    Oh the humanity! Sarah Palin’s approval rating is now only 1 point away from Barack Obama’s approval rating (46% vs 47%). So either she is doing something very right, or Obama is doing something terribly wrong. Luckily, Obama’s approval can only side a few more points before he hits bottom and no longer "statistically" has any favorable approval from Republicans or Independents.

    Let the Prozac begin for those afflicted by PDS. Not bad… not bad at all Sarah!

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/12/sarah-palin-barack-obama-poll-gap-narrows.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Geee… I can’t understand why as the media treated her sooooo fairly during and after the campaign. :rolleyes:

    They didn't laugh in her face. In the circumstances, thats good going.
    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    All I know is (......) the public?

    If the answer to every single one of those questions is "Yes, Obama is an indonesian Sunni Jihadist who eats children", Sarah Palin still won't be any smarter, more informed or suitable for office than she is now. His demerits don't give her merits.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Nodin wrote: »
    If the answer to every single one of those questions is "Yes, Obama is an indonesian Sunni Jihadist who eats children", Sarah Palin still won't be any smarter, more informed or suitable for office than she is now. His demerits don't give her merits.....

    Never meant to. All I did was point out the failures, hypocrisy and rabid vitriol of the so-called “reporters” during the campaign. Although a 1% increase point in the polls and the American people might just think she is every bit as qualified to be our President. ;)

    (And Schwarzenegger cannot be our President, and shouldn't be, according to our Constitution)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Although a 1% increase point in the polls and the American people might just think she is every bit as qualified to be our President.
    You realise Popularity and Job Approval rating are Apples and Tig Welders?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Overheal wrote: »
    You realise Popularity and Job Approval rating are Apples and Tig Welders?

    Yup, I don't think the people are responding to someone's hairsytle when these questions are put to them about political figures like Sarah Palin, Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Dick Cheney as the focus. But keep swinging… statistically you’re bound to hit a home run at some point. Although you’re in good company… This just in, the Obama administration considers the polls of American’s viewpoints, indicated in the widely respected Gallup polling firm, to that of a 6-year-old with crayons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I read that. The Bush Administration said the same thing. I believe that was in fact Karl Rove at the time.

    Yes Im sure the Poll questions are do you think Palin would make a good president; but regardless, its still a popularity contest not an approval rating. Its one thing to say "I think she would do a good job" and another to say "She is awful for freezing up when we faced the biggest terrorist attack since 9/11". Its a difference between Hindsight and Feelings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Sarah Palin’s approval rating is now only 1 point away from Barack Obama’s approval rating (46% vs 47%). So either she is doing something very right, or Obama is doing something terribly wrong.

    Or maybe one of those people has a job where it's impossible to please everyone, and the other has, eh, no job, having absconded from any responsibilties or oversight? The voting public made their intentions between the two pretty clear a year ago though, didn't they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    alastair wrote: »
    Or maybe one of those people has a job where it's impossible to please everyone, and the other has, eh, no job, having absconded from any responsibilties or oversight? The voting public made their intentions between the two pretty clear a year ago though, didn't they?
    Point taken... But one year later I believe the American people are beginning to feel duped, and now experiencing a sence of "buyers remorse."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Point taken... But one year later I believe the American people are beginning to feel duped, and now experiencing a sence of “buyers remorse.”
    unavoidably. They build up the man in their eyes as the Dawn of a New Age, for lack of a better Euphemism. And now that reality is set in and they realized the rivers havent turned to wine and they are still eating meatloaf out of can theyre beginning to wonder "wtf?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Overheal wrote: »
    unavoidably. They build up the man in their eyes as the Dawn of a New Age, for lack of a better Euphemism. And now that reality is set in and they realized the rivers havent turned to wine and they are still eating meatloaf out of can theyre beginning to wonder "wtf?"

    Yup, the sad result of Chicago politics on a national scale.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Point taken... But one year later I believe the American people are beginning to feel duped, and now experiencing a sence of "buyers remorse."

    Show me the US president that doesn't induce some degree of buyers remorse. The only one to buck the trend in recent years is Daddy Bush - a nice, if bland, man who had to screw up the economy before people took a real dislike to the man. GW surfed the post 9/11 wartime president boost for a time, but ended up making Nixon look liked.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    alastair wrote: »
    Show me the US president that doesn't induce some degree of buyers remorse. The only one to buck the trend in recent years is Daddy Bush - a nice, if bland, man who had to screw up the economy before people took a real dislike to the man. GW surfed the post 9/11 wartime president boost for a time, but ended up making Nixon look liked.

    Again point taken, but Gallup says the president’s most recent 47 percent rating marks the lowest ever recorded for a president during his first December in office.

    And from the article I linked, this is the type of thing that Obama supporters must fear, especially when it comes from a left leaning news organization.
    The very same polarization now holds true for Obama, the fresh fellow from the old Chicago Democratic machine who was supposed to bring hope and change to a nation tired of divisive politics and the harsh partisan tone of Washington.

    The tide is going out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Again point taken, but Gallup says the president’s most recent 47 percent rating marks the lowest ever recorded for a president during his first December in office.
    And we are also coming out of one of the worse Economically Performing years since.... ever?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Overheal wrote: »
    And we are also coming out of one of the worse Economically Performing years since.... ever?

    As someone else stated... If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. The crisis happened during the campaign. He claimed to be the right man to lead us out of the crisis. (Hmmmm... he also said that the stimulus would keep unemployment below 8% :rolleyes:). I guess that's why someone with executive experience should be President.

    So I guess Palin would have done better, but no worse, as President?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    As someone else stated... If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
    I think you missed my point, which was I doubt anyone could come out of the last year with stellar job approval ratings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    “Stellar job approval ratings”… NO! But lets face it, America made a decision in November 2008 based on Obama’s last month of the campaign promises to rule middle of the road. Unfortunately after he was sworn in, he decided those promises (which won him the election) meant squat and took an immediate turn to the left with the help of the Democratic controlled Congress. After seeing our country move to the Left and facing economic ruin becasue of it, a lot of people woke up and realized we are a center right country… evidenced by Obama’s fast falling opinion polls. And he will continue to see declining poling numbers if his answer to everything is… My Big Fat Government Takeover.

    I think his decision to send more troops into Afghanistan is the first bi-partisan effort in his presidency. A day late and a dollar short IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭kev9100


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    America made a decision based on Obamas last month of the campaign promises to rule middle of the road. Unfortunately after he was sworn in, he decided those promises (which won him the election) meant squat and took an immediate turn to the left with the help of the Democratic controlled Congress.


    Admittedly from a liberal point of view, I dont believe for a second Obama has governed from the left. On all the major issues like healthcare, gays in the milatary, the stimulus and afghanistan he has gone against his own instincts and compromised. If anything, it couldnt hurt for to MOVE to the left.


    p.s why do i think a certain joe is gonna go nuts now?:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Kev… I’ve been nuts a long time now, as I’m confident many here will attest.

    So are you looking at the term “LEFT” from American goggles or European goggles?

    Purely socially, I’d have to agree with you. But fiscally with social overtones like Health Care, I’d have to disagree. America is use to playing between the 40 yard lines (American Football term), and he is taking us to the 30 yard line of the Left. As for the stimulus, it was simply a political payback to his base and his supporters. As for the wars, he is being a good Commander-In-Chief, which I agree he is going against his instincts (sure looked to me that he seemed not to believe his words in this Afghanistan speech). And it has already hurt all of our citizens with his MOVE to the Left IMO.

    But back to topic… with at least $5 million for her book in these hard economic times, Palin’s probably the smartest woman in America right now. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭kev9100


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    with at least $5 million for her book in these hard economic times, Palin’s probably the smartest woman in America right now. ;)


    NEVER SAY THAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    kev9100 wrote: »
    NEVER SAY THAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

    LOL... Okay! Next time I'll eliminate the word "probably." ;)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    As someone else stated... If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen... So I guess Palin would have done better, but no worse, as President?
    Until she suddenly resigns, as when she was Alaska oil & gas commissioner and Alaska governor?

    Oh... does she get three strikes before she is out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    Never meant to. All I did was point out the failures, hypocrisy and rabid vitriol of the so-called “reporters” during the campaign. .

    That presumes your list of questions are in some way based in reality. They aren't.

    The fact is that the woman, based on knowledge displayed in the public arena, isn't fit for high office. Thats not based on either her or my party allegiance (I'm not American), or ideology, or her gender. Had a more capable candidate been chosen, you could well be basking under a McCain presidency now.
    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    (And Schwarzenegger cannot be our President, and shouldn't be, according to our Constitution)

    ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Nodin wrote: »

    ?
    I believe its a Constitutional precedent that the Commander in Chief must be a native born citizen.

    This isnt a Human Rights violation as far as I can tell, as you can participate in every other position of government as a naturalized citizen.

    Still given what America is and what it was founded upon I think we need to re-evaluate that assumption. Mr. Schwarzenegger is as American as anyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    People are saying that people chose between Palin and Obama? Really? It was McCain who ran... She was anything but a nail in the coffin. I'd rather see her as President than Joe Biden, to be honest...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Saw a couple of polls recently that Palin is now as popular as Obama. Of course, that's far different from voting for them. I still think she's tainted goods, though, I can't see her getting into the White House (I don't think I'd vote for her either).
    I believe its a Constitutional precedent that the Commander in Chief must be a native born citizen.

    Not so much precedent as in a written requirement.

    Interestingly, there have been a number of presidents who are argued by the letter of the law were not native born citizens. There was a bit of a paperwork glitch and Ohio was not formally admitted to the Union until 1953. That led to a spirited attempt to get income tax repealed, because it was signed by President Taft, from Ohio, who in theory was not authorised to hold the position and his signature was invalid.

    The legal wrangling which followed has raised eyebrows amongst legal purists. For example, as a result of it, Congress passed a retroactive law and the Constitution specifically says that Congress shall not pass a law ex post facto. (Itself subject to interpretation, case-law currently says that this ban is on criminal matters only)

    NTM


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Overheal wrote: »
    I believe its a Constitutional precedent that the Commander in Chief must be a native born citizen.

    Aye, I just didn't see the relevance of him bringing the Governator into the conversation. Now and again I forget some people take this 'Birther' business seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Nodin wrote: »
    Aye, I just didn't see the relevance of him bringing the Governator into the conversation. Now and again I forget some people take this 'Birther' business seriously.

    Ahhhh... who is the "him" you are referring to? If you were referring to me, I was responding to Overheal’s point posed at me regarding Arnie... see below. (I hate it when people can't be bothered to read beyond one page, I really do. ;))
    Overheal wrote: »
    Of course I guess by your logic you would never wish to see Schwarzenegger as a president in any Future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Nodin wrote: »
    Aye, I just didn't see the relevance of him bringing the Governator into the conversation. Now and again I forget some people take this 'Birther' business seriously.
    What does Gay Marriage have to do with this thread? I brought up Schwarzenegger with regards to citizenship and presidency.
    I hate it when people can't be bothered to read beyond one page, I really do
    there is only one page if youre doing it right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Jaysus...it only gets 'bipartisan' when yez are ganging up on me.....don't mark the face...I'm delicate....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Nodin wrote: »
    Jaysus...it only gets 'bipartisan' when yez are ganging up on me.....don't mark the face...I'm delicate....

    Oh grow a pair! It could be worse… you could spend the night with Lorena Bobbitt, Tonya Harding, and Nancy Pelosi. You’d wake up in the morning with your tallywacker gone, your knees broken, and no health care insurance. ;)


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Palin... I still think she's tainted goods, though, I can't see her getting into the White House (I don't think I'd vote for her either).
    ***Blue reaches for the oxygen, and takes a few deep breaths!***
    OK tall like "John Wayne," what's the real message here? (Are you trying to get me to buy you the first drink when you get back to California from Afghanistan?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    I see Sarah Palin has gone up against Arnold Schwarzenegger's dismissal of her views on global warming in a Facebook statement.
    Why is Governor Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and unemployment? Perhaps he will recall that I live in our nation’s only Arctic state and that I was among the first governors to create a sub-cabinet to deal specifically with climate change. While I and all Alaskans witness the impacts of changes in weather patterns firsthand, I have repeatedly said that we can’t primarily blame man’s activities for those changes. And while I did look for practical responses to those changes, what I didn’t do was hamstring Alaska’s job creators with burdensome regulations so that I could act “greener than thou” when talking to reporters.
    Notice that the Terminators always seem to be taken out by someone named Sarah. :cool:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Palin's "drill-baby-drill" vision for California coastline sunsets. California tourism industry revenues will obviously expand by domestic and international visitors wishing to admire the natural beauty as depicted in the below picture, as will the coastline property real estate values that share this view:

    offshore_rig_sunset1.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Don’t know about the rest of you, but it would be hard to enjoy a particular scenery when you realize it has cost you your job, is responsible for huge tax increases, is responsible for increased product and energy costs, and has a direct impact on reduced government services.

    Oh yeah... I understand the scenery in Alaska is quite spectacular. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    1. Why won’t Obama allow the public to see his doctor-generated, hospital-released birth certificate?
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    This Palin character appears to be completely braindead.

    Even my American standards, she's a cretin.
    And that's saying something.


    Every review of her book that I have read, has been abysmal.
    Christopher Hitchens - a well known rightwinger - said the book was the worst fiction/non fiction book that he ever had
    the misfortune to read!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    PDS
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Jump to: navigation, search

    PDS can refer to:

    Computing

    * Panzer Dragoon Saga, a role-playing video game
    * Partitioned data set, a dataset of IBM systems
    * Processor Direct Slot, a slot found in some Macintosh computers
    * Protocol Data Services, a British information technology services company
    * Protected distribution system, a safeguarded telecommunication system
    * Premises distribution system

    Medical

    * Paroxysmal depolarizing shift, a pre-seizure interictal neuronal EEG spike in epilepsy.
    * Parkinson's Disease Society of the UK, a British medical research charity dedicated to the curing of Parkinson's disease
    * Polydioxanone, a biodegradable polymer that is used for biomedical applications
    * Pigment dispersion syndrome, an affliction of the eye

    Political parties

    * Party of Democratic Socialism (Germany)
    * Party of Democratic Socialism (India)
    * Progressive Democrats, a defunct political party of Ireland
    * Democratic Party of the Left (Partito Democratico della Sinistra), a defunct political party of Italy
    * Senegalese Democratic Party (Parti Démocratique Sénégalais), a political party of Senegal
    * Sudanese Democratic Party (Parti Démocratique Soudanais), a defunct political party of Sudan
    * Democratic Social Party (Partido Democrático Social), a defunct political party of Brazil
    * Prosperous Peace Party (Partai Damai Sejahtera), a political party of Indonesia
    * Parti de la Democratie Socialiste, a defunct provincial political party of Quebec, Canada

    Schools

    * Princeton Day School, a private school in Princeton, New Jersey
    * Peabody Demonstration School, a now-closed private school in Nashville, Tennessee
    * Providence Day School, a private school in Charlotte, North Carolina

    Scientific

    * Photothermal deflection spectroscopy, spectroscopy measuring the change in refractive index due to laser heating of a surface
    * Planetary Data System, a system NASA uses for robotic mission data

    Other

    * Particularly dangerous situation, a high-end watch occasionally issued by the Storm Prediction Center
    * Pound sterling, the currency of the United Kingdom
    * Precision Drill Squad, a skilled military performance of Singapore
    * Prinzhorn Dance School, a British alt/punk band
    * Product design specification, a term used in product design
    * Public Distribution System, a retail type system run by government to supply essential items to vulnerable sections of the society at reasonable (subsidized) prices


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Overheal... why are you having such search problems as of late? Have you switched to that new Liberal search engine... Bong?

    Here you go.
    http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/09/10/palin-derangement-syndrome/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    hinault wrote: »
    This Palin character appears to be completely braindead.

    Even my American standards, she's a cretin.
    And that's saying something.

    Yup.

    In an anarchist kind of way I think it would be interesting to see what she'd do if she was president. SHe'd probably quit.


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