Double Ranger Dudes

Dacian

Anyone else want to put your hand into the game and slap these guys?Running around like RunRunner and jumping around like hares!! Think they are young teenages with too much sugar in their system.

Seriously.....am finding them very hard and annoying to deal with.

Edit:only seem 2x 18s twice.



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armour87

Double Model 18s are 10 times worse.

citizen_p

yeah 1887 re way worse.....what was the point of even putting them in. what military uses model 1887s.....and why the feck would you spin them around your finger to reload

load of ****e

papajimsmooth

Because it makes you feel like the terminator. I havent unlocked them yet but there ridiculously overpowered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BxbTSaxduA

ironictoaster

It just looks cool.

jtsuited

rangers aren't too bad compared to the abomination that is the 1887s. serious flaw in the game. and it's only gonna get worse as people level up.

Oafley Jones

1887's are severly unbalanced. I don't want to see them removed but their range should at least be cut in half, or else the player's speed and movement restricted. The 1887's outgun anything out to medium range, making smgs totally redundant. As someone pointed out on IW's forum "how did guns reach their peak 120 years ago and fall off so much since then?"

Kev23

Is it just me, or does anyone else tend to search for one of these guys during a match who got you with a really cheap shot and get payback as much as you can in hilarious and explosive ways??

Or am I just too preoccupied with revenge?:D

Sealclubber

I only use a tactical knife, so these double shotgun lads cause all sorts of problems for me. I've learned to stay away.

Oafley Jones

Sealclubber wrote: »

I only use a tactical knife, so these double shotgun lads cause all sorts of problems for me. I've learned to stay away.

In the same way that MW and WAW had me instinctively running away from my kills (in case of martyrdom) I've modified my behaviour in MW2 to a style of play that keeps my engagements (where possible) as far out as possible. At this stage I just assume everyone is using akimbo 1887s.

DOC09UNAM

I hate people that snipe me.

Sealclubber

Oafley Jones wrote: »

In the same way that MW and WAW had me instinctively running away from my kills (in case of martyrdom) I've modified my behaviour in MW2 to a style of play that keeps my engagements (where possible) as far out as possible. At this stage I just assume everyone is using akimbo 1887s.

Exactly. It's mental that people complain so much, I've seen plenty of double shotgun lads who get riddled for an entire game. People are getting frustrated by the instantaneous fashion with which a shotgun can kill you if close enough, but if you keep your wits about about you there's ways of dealing with every weapon setup. Double shotguns seem to be the new Juggernaut.

Oafley Jones

Sealclubber wrote: »

Exactly. It's mental that people complain so much, I've seen plenty of double shotgun lads who get riddled for an entire game. People are getting frustrated by the instantaneous fashion with which a shotgun can kill you if close enough, but if you keep your wits about about you there's ways of dealing with every weapon setup. Double shotguns seem to be the new Juggernaut.

The complaints are justified. Juggernaut was offset by stopping power but there's nothing to counter these. Maps like Favela where you're nearly always close to medium engagements means that the 1887s have a massive advantage. And that's what seems to piss most people off, accuracy and power upto medium range destroys every other gun.

Burning Eclipse

I play on Hardcore TD exclusively, at lv 54 now and I've seen 2, maybe 3 guys using this set-up. It's just not as popular. You can drop a guy from halfway across the map with an ACR; why would you want run about like a lunatic when one bullet will kill you? Assault Rifles are by far the most popular, followed by sniper rifles, depending on the map. Very few people using 'The Witch' either.

Guys, if you want a break from the gimmicks, try Hardcore.

Sealclubber

Oafley Jones wrote: »

The complaints are justified. Juggernaut was offset by stopping power but there's nothing to counter these. Maps like Favela where you're nearly always close to medium engagements means that the 1887s have a massive advantage. And that's what seems to piss most people off, accuracy and power upto medium range destroys every other gun.

Right, but that's Favela. Wasteland, Afghan, Quarry, Scrapyard, Estate(assuming you don't just stay in the house) are among many maps where Shotgunners can be destroyed. Besides, everyone can have a shotgun as a secondary weapon, use it. The odds of coming across lads using double shotguns seems to be quite slim for me, and the times that there have been two on a team I could count on one hand. They're statistically still in a minority.

LukerC

Guys, if you want a break from the gimmicks, try Hardcore.

i've only ever seen one guy rockin the double shotguns in hardcore he got mauled he couldn't believe it in lobby after the game said we were all hacking.

Hardcore is a great skill leveller.

mle1324

Its most of the time snipers that carry the Ranger or 1887,really annoying:mad:.

But in the end I'll always get them back

Dacian

I had seen it a few times since I started playing (Bought it 3 days after launch) Though it was a novelty setup.

But in the last week have seen a jump in the number of players using this setup, and mostly they are guys wearing ghillie suits. I suppose it is a good setup in a more casual setting, ie. normal TDM, as here you 'should' find new and/or inexperienced players who are slower to respond to a charging shotgun maniac or who leave themselves more open to being snook up on....(ie. me!)

Played a game of High Rise Domination yesterday with 3-4 double shotgun dudes on the opposing team (it was at least 3,maybe 4) When 2-3 of them run around together its hard to survive against them. They did well in a few instances but overall my team had the map covered and were able to take them down at a distance.................. 3 converging streams of assault rifle fire will hit you even if you are a quick ninja fcuk!

opinion guy

LukerC wrote: »

i've only ever seen one guy rockin the double shotguns in hardcore he got mauled he couldn't believe it in lobby after the game said we were all hacking.

Hardcore is a great skill leveller.

Hmmm might have to try this.


I'm just happy the javelin glitch seems to have been fixed - game is playable again. I haven't seen so many stabby joe's lately either for whatever reason. I have seen more shotgun guys lately but i find an ACR launched grenade tends to sort that out fairly sharpish. That or a thermal scope WA2000 double tap from the other side of the map

Edit: what is the deal thou changing to secondary weapons when you ahve shotgun......it takes AGESSSSSS

poncho000

hardcore is really bad everybody camps

Useful.Idiot

hardcore is awesome. heartbeat sensor will sort out those campers, or root them out and counter-camp.

DOC09UNAM

poncho000 wrote: »

hardcore is really bad everybody camps

Couldn't agree more.

Jet Black

Useful.Idiot wrote: »

hardcore is awesome. heartbeat sensor will sort out those campers, or root them out and counter-camp.

Most of the time I play hardcore they have cold blooded and ninja so there invisible. I find moving around to the normal camping sorts them.
Why do people keep running back to the same spot they were camping in only to be killed again?

Jet Black

Useful.Idiot wrote: »

hardcore is awesome. heartbeat sensor will sort out those campers, or root them out and counter-camp.

Most of the time I play hardcore they have cold blooded and ninja so there invisible. I find moving around to the normal camping sorts them.
Why do people keep running back to the same spot they were camping in only to be killed again?

radio_protector

I use akimbo rangers. They're not as ridiculous as the model 1887s but they're still strong. There's no point complainin, it only proves that those guys are owning you online.

jeawan

Sealclubber wrote: »

Right, but that's Favela. Wasteland, Afghan, Quarry, Scrapyard, Estate(assuming you don't just stay in the house) are among many maps where Shotgunners can be destroyed. Besides, everyone can have a shotgun as a secondary weapon, use it. The odds of coming across lads using double shotguns seems to be quite slim for me, and the times that there have been two on a team I could count on one hand. They're statistically still in a minority.

Played a few games the other night were we have 3-4 guys with all 1887's and they were destroying people to the point one guy get a tactical nuke from his kills in the game all they were doing was running around bang and your dead .

These guns are way overpowered over at range they were killing people too easy compared to other guns.

DOC09UNAM

radio_protector wrote: »

I use akimbo rangers. They're not as ridiculous as the model 1887s but they're still strong. There's no point complainin, it only proves that those guys are owning you online.

they still involve some skill to play with, no silencer, just big red dots on the map...

then you get the case when you unload two rangers ammo into some douchebag with last stand that just owns you cause you're out of ammo.

Funny yet frustrating when it happens, but heh, my fault for using rangers, lol.

paul150

This clip sums them up tbh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVj-shaAhSc Overpowered much?

Onearmedbandit

Yeah sure they are overpowered but there are ways to get around it. Guys with 1887's normally do a route around the map so just stay put until you can ambush them. Stop coming on boards and moaning about it, adapt, improve and eventually you will have them too.

paul150

Good news for people who hate model 1887's, they have been taken down in power/range in the new patch

Rb

Lol @ saying Hardcore is more skilled. Full of camper fags with UAV and heartbeat jammers waiting behind stuff for other players to hopefully run past. I've played a ton of it and so many games never reach near the max kill count.

It's genuinely horrendous.

Soby

Ive just unlocked them now..And while they annoyed the hell outta me i admit im using them.May aswell rack up the kills until the patch comes out

Hoki

I enjoy having these guys coming run at me , if your any way good at all these guys are the perfect ammunition for your killstreaks.
Just use a heartbeat sensor as they rarely use ninja so when u see they are close just kill them before they can get within distance.

I tend to battle back against them by using my Striker(its just as if not more efficient than the 1887s as you have 12 cartridges which you can pop off very fast.) Currently have over 700 striker kills!

opinion guy

Drat. Just after I've unlocked them.

To be honest thou I've been Akimbo P90\s latelty and I'm finding them as good if not better for short to medium range as the shotguns.

zero19

Akimbo P90s+Steady aim = pwnage

Useful.Idiot

Was pllaying with these 1887's today, while overpowered they are very fun to play.
Although you cant just whip them out in the middle of a pressured situation, you have to know you're about to come into close quarters. Akimbo magnum;s win in that regard.

opinion guy

That's why with my akimbo p90's i use akimbo magnum's as second weapon. u just whip em out at end of p90 clip (and that's a big clip). I find it an effective combo

tallus

I find that a well placed round from the grenade launcher sorts these shotgun guys out.
Also the thermal scope is great from almost any distance on the maps.

DOC09UNAM

tallus wrote: »

I find that a well placed round from the grenade launcher sorts these shotgun guys out.
Also the thermal scope is great from almost any distance on the maps.

I hate the people that use those stupid grenade launchers, it takes very little skill and there is nothing more annoying.

tallus

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I hate the people that use those stupid grenade launchers, it takes very little skill and there is nothing more annoying.

Sounds like you got owned a bit there

There is skill in using them, but you're welcome to your opinion.

marko91

i hated these c**ts at start but the last week i tried it out and its actualy kinda fun lol id only use it on favela and even then id only se it when i wana mess around so i hardly use it like...definely the akimbo optio should be gone its a joke like 1 shotgun is allready powerful enough at close range:mad:

also...**** YOU GRENADE LAUNCHING PRICKS haha

craze7

Ah stop, akimbo shotguns are bad but atleast you have to be in there line of sight, nothing worse than being on a 10 kill streak just about to get the chopper gunner and get hit by a loose noob tube from across the map!!!!

DOC09UNAM

tallus wrote: »

Sounds like you got owned a bit there

There is skill in using them, but you're welcome to your opinion.

Not really, you shoot them into an area where you know people will be, and with danger close being on, you're bound to hit something, that's not exactly skill.

opinion guy

I thouhgt danger close was only for explosive rounds ?

DOC09UNAM

opinion guy wrote: »

I thouhgt danger close was only for explosive rounds ?

What does a grenade do?

DOC09UNAM

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

What does a grenade do?

Ummm.....Ummm....Explode?
I hate noob tubers too, And people who use Thermal scopes religously.
Another pet hate of mine is at the start of a S&D match when a noob tube flies towards your group of team mates and the little bar comes up saying Last alive...Just my weekly rant.

Gelio

I actually use akimbo Rangers AS A SIDEARM. I don't run around the map looking to get guys with them. I pull them out if I need to. I will never use the models they still have way to much range and its just unfair