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Protest against Pervy Priests and Bishops

  • 05-12-2009 9:43pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭


    How about a national boycott of Christams cards?
    Other ideas?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭Daemos


    Right, campaign against it by doing something that won't affect them whatsoever.

    Great idea :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭blogga


    DaPoolRulz wrote: »
    Right, campaign against it by doing something that won't affect them whatsoever.

    Great idea :rolleyes:

    A mass refusal to acknowledge one of the foundational events of the faith they presume to promote won't affect them? OK....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Aaa feck it - lets just cancel Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭Buceph


    blogga wrote: »
    A mass refusal to acknowledge one of the foundational events of the faith they presume to promote won't affect them? OK....

    That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

    ****it I'm not wearing a Christmas jumper this year, they'll never get over that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    Would boycotting the church not be a better way to protest?? it would hit them in their coughers too!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭Daemos


    blogga wrote: »
    A mass refusal to acknowledge one of the foundational events of the faith they presume to promote won't affect them? OK....
    There's a big difference between boycotting Christmas cards and boycotting Christmas entirely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Another Catholic-bashing thread!

    Although boycotting Christmas is a pretty absurd notion, as this is attacking Christianity not merely Catholicism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    blogga wrote: »
    A mass refusal to acknowledge one of the foundational events of the faith they presume to promote won't affect them? OK....

    I didn't realise that pices of cardboard with Santas or snowmen printed on them, represented one of the foundational events of the christian faith.

    You learn something new every day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Nichololas


    Population Ponders Priestly Predatory Predilections, Priesthood Perched Perilously, Protest?

    fixed the titel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Jakkass wrote: »
    this is attacking Christianity not merely Catholicism.

    Ah, sure they're all pervs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    Blogga wrote:
    How about a national boycott of Christams cards?
    Other ideas?
    DaPoolRulz wrote: »
    There's a big difference between boycotting Christmas cards and boycotting Christmas entirely.

    In fairness to the OP he said boycott christams cards, you are both talking about totally different things!

    I don't think they could cope if we didn't send each other christams cards, they make so much money from 'satmps' and 'envelepos' it would cripple them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    I wonder how much thinking people do before they type something.

    How is not buying christmas cards from a card printing company going to affect the RCC?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Rubbish thread

    On another note....
    If you want a mass card signed by the local Priest it's the done thing to slip a banknote in the card.
    You have to pay to get a signature. Ok, don't take up the Priests time but paying to sign a mass card?
    I'd like to know how that tradition started


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    Enlil_Nick wrote: »
    Population Ponders Priestly Predatory Predilections, Priesthood Perched Perilously, Protest?

    fixed the titel title

    Fixed your post ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Ah, sure they're all pervs.
    .......

    Generalising much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    mikemac wrote: »
    You have to pay to get a signature. Ok, don't take up the Priests time but paying to sign a mass card?
    I'd like to know how that tradition started

    Better they take your cash than your innocence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Nichololas


    cloneslad wrote: »
    Fixed your post ;)

    Yeah I probably should have noticed that. :/

    .......

    Generalising much?

    I think that may have been tongue-in-cheek.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Enlil_Nick wrote: »
    Yeah I probably should have noticed that. :/




    I think that may have been tongue-in-cheek.


    No - they're all pervs. It's a proven fact. ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    * sigh *

    I'm hungry!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    Enlil_Nick wrote: »


    I think that may have been tongue-in-cheek.


    you have to put your tongue between their cheeks now? it's all changed from the mid 90's


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Nichololas


    No - they're all pervs. It's a proven fact. ;)

    Priests, Christians or Hallmark?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    Biggins wrote: »
    * sigh *

    I'm hungry!

    Kinda peckish myself, just got offered a feed from the indian but I turned it dow, bit late in the night for those calories. moment on the lips etc etc etc :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Enlil_Nick wrote: »
    Priests, Christians or Hallmark?

    I've never heard of a kid being buggered by a greeting card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Nichololas


    I've never heard of a kid being buggered by a greeting card.

    Why are we boycotting christmas cards then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭VinnyTGM


    mikemac wrote: »
    Rubbish thread

    On another note....
    If you want a mass card signed by the local Priest it's the done thing to slip a banknote in the card.
    You have to pay to get a signature. Ok, don't take up the Priests time but paying to sign a mass card?
    I'd like to know how that tradition started

    It's because Priest's were so popular back in the day. They were like celebritie's don't you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Enlil_Nick wrote: »
    Why are we protesting against christmas cards then?

    Because they are evil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    I've never heard of a kid being buggered by a greeting card.
    I've never heard of a christian doing that either.

    Maybe a criminal trying to disguise themselves as one but never a real christian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    VinnyTGM wrote: »
    It's because Priest's were so popular back in the day. They were like celebritie's don't you know.?


    Careful, there are a lot of grammar nazis about ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    blogga wrote: »
    How about a national boycott of Christams cards?
    Other ideas?

    Did you mean to say mass cards? :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I've never heard of a christian doing that either.

    Maybe a criminal trying to disguise themselves as one but never a real christian.

    Is that coz real christians are perfect?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    No. The reason we are not perfect is precisely why we are Christians.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Jakkass wrote: »
    No. The reason we are not perfect is precisely why we are Christians.

    So by that logic, a paedo can also be a christian.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    So by that logic, a paedo can also be a christian.

    Yes, I think so. They would need to recognise that what they have done is morally wrong however, and they would have to be willing to change.

    I believe a paedophile who repents genuinely and becomes a Christian is more humble and more worthy of God's grace than someone who does what is wrong little by little all of their life and is too proud to realise it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Yes, I think so. They would need to recognise that what they have done is morally wrong however, and they would have to be willing to change.

    I believe a paedophile who repents genuinely and becomes a Christian is more humble and more worthy of God's grace than someone who does what is wrong little by little all of their life and is too proud to realise it.

    What an odd points system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Is that coz real christians are perfect?
    No its "cuz real christians actually follow the moral rules of their religion".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Genuine repentance. Nobody in this world is more guilty than this paedophile that you speak of. We have all sinned and fallen short of God's glory. Therefore we are all due to be punished unless we are willing to say that we messed up and accept God's offer of grace. No matter what anyone has done, one can receive grace and become a new person. This includes the most heinous of crimes in our world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Jakkass wrote: »
    We have all sinned and fallen short of God's glory. Therefore we are all due to be punished unless we are willing to say that we messed up and accept God's offer of grace.

    You're presuming that everyone believes in God


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    No its "cuz real christians actually follow the moral rules of their religion".

    Not according to other posts - also I don't think you have to follow any religion to be a christian.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Irrespective of whether we believe in God or not, we have all done things which are wrong.

    Then again, deciding not to believe in God doesn't make anyone less accountable for what they have done.

    Although, if God exists, not believing in Him at the Judgement will have about as much effect as deciding not to believe the judge exists in the courtroom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Not according to other posts - also I don't think you have to follow any religion to be a christian.
    Fine, follow the moral rules of christianity/bible.

    What do you mean by "not according to other posts"?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Irrespective of whether we believe in God or not, we have all done things which are wrong.

    I have done things that I've regretted, I've done things that aren't legal, but I've never done anything "wrong" & I will be the judge of that.
    Jakkass wrote: »
    Then again, deciding not to believe in God doesn't make anyone less accountable for what they have done.

    I never decided not to believe in God, I never at any stage believed that a God existed.
    Jakkass wrote: »
    Although, if God exists, not believing in Him at the Judgement will have about as much effect as deciding not to believe the judge exists in the courtroom.

    I'll take my chances.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Fine, follow the moral rules of christianity/bible.

    What do you mean by "not according to other posts"?

    The other posts in the thread regarding this point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    I have done things that I've regretted, I've done things that aren't legal, but I've never done anything "wrong" & I will be the judge of that.

    This is something that I don't get. If you have done things that you regret that sense of regret must be telling you something about the rightness or the wrongness of an action surely?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Genuine repentance. Nobody in this world is more guilty than this paedophile that you speak of. We have all sinned and fallen short of God's glory. Therefore we are all due to be punished unless we are willing to say that we messed up and accept God's offer of grace. No matter what anyone has done, one can receive grace and become a new person. This includes the most heinous of crimes in our world.

    Does this mean I can live a life a sin and then repent on my deathbed? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Another Catholic-bashing thread!

    Although boycotting Christmas is a pretty absurd notion, as this is attacking Christianity not merely Catholicism.
    I disagree, Christmas as we know it on December 25 was invented by the Roman Catholic Church during the time of Emperor Constantine. There is Biblical evidence to support that Christ was not born in mid winter.

    The 25th December was originally an ancient Roman pagan feast day. Unfortunately other Christian denominations have inherited this poison along with other festivities such as Easter tide from Catholicism.

    If you want to hit the Catholic Church where it hurts most start attending Protestant Churches. Word would soon get into the press that people are moving over. It has already happening in Brazil and other Latin American countries where the Church of Rome is losing its foothold. .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Repentance has to be genuine. Sinning in the knowledge that you'll be able to repent is ingenuine. It'll be effectively saying to God, let me off the hook rather than saying you are genuinely sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    I disagree, Christmas as we know it on December 25 was invented by the Roman Catholic Church. There is Biblical evidence that Christ was not born in mid winter.

    The 25th December was originally an ancient Roman pagan feast day. Unfortunately other Christian denominations have inherited this poison along with other festivities from Catholicism.

    If you want to hit the Catholic Church where it hurts most start attending Protestant Churches. Word would soon get into the press that people are moving over. It has already happening in Brazil and other Latin American countries where the Church of Rome is losing its foothold. .
    No one said Boycott the 25th of December (How the hell would you boycott a day anyway?). Someone said Boycott christmas (In general).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Jakkass wrote: »
    This is something that I don't get. If you have done things that you regret that sense of regret must be telling you something about the rightness or the wrongness of an action surely?

    I have done things that I have regretted - I don't regret them now as they have made me the person I am now. Whether I felt that they were the right or wrong things do do at the time is irrelevant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    No one said Boycott the 25th of December (How the hell would you boycott a day anyway?). Someone said Boycott christmas (In general).

    There are quite a few denomination that don't accept the Christmas period for what it is, IE a commercial gimmick for the multinationals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    We simply can't boycott Christmas - someone has to eat all those turkeys.


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