Bid To Beat X Factor 'Karaoke Act' To No 1

Biggins

Thousands of music fans have joined a campaign to block this year's X Factor winner from clinching the Christmas number one.

More than 43,000 people have pledged to buy an anti-authority, expletive-ridden track from 1992 by Rage Against The Machine.
They are supporting a web campaign which aims to fight Simon Cowell's perceived stranglehold over the UK charts.
The Facebook group explains: "Fed up of Simon Cowell's latest karaoke act being Christmas number one?
"Me too... So who's up for a mass-purchase of the track Killing In The Name... as a protest to the X Factor b******s?"

More here: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/X-Factor-Could-Be-Beaten-To-Christmas-Number-One-By-Anti-Simon-Cowell-Facebook-Campaign/Article/200912115491121?lpos=Showbiz_News_Carousel_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15491121_X_Factor_Could_Be_Beaten_To_Christmas_Number_One_By_Anti-Simon_Cowell_Facebook_Campaign

Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2228594104&v=info

soccymonster

Biggins wrote: »

Thousands of music fans have joined a campaign to block this year's X Factor winner from clinching the Christmas number one.

More than 43,000 people have pledged to buy an anti-authority, expletive-ridden track from 1992 by Rage Against The Machine.
They are supporting a web campaign which aims to fight Simon Cowell's perceived stranglehold over the UK charts.
The Facebook group explains: "Fed up of Simon Cowell's latest karaoke act being Christmas number one?
"Me too... So who's up for a mass-purchase of the track Killing In The Name... as a protest to the X Factor b******s?"

More here: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/X-Factor-Could-Be-Beaten-To-Christmas-Number-One-By-Anti-Simon-Cowell-Facebook-Campaign/Article/200912115491121?lpos=Showbiz_News_Carousel_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15491121_X_Factor_Could_Be_Beaten_To_Christmas_Number_One_By_Anti-Simon_Cowell_Facebook_Campaign

Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2228594104&v=info

If anyone other then Joe wins, I might just join that facebook page :cool:.

Biggins

This year the Christmas No.1 will be announced on Sunday 20th December

Which means FOR ENGLAND (not sure about Ireland)...
ONLY buy the track from 7Digital / iTunes / Play.com between these dates:
SUNDAY 13/12 from 00:01am -to- SATURDAY 19/12 at 11:59pm

If people want to buy the X Factor winners single, they should. Simon Cowell might be making millions from it but if his act is good, there is no reason why people should be jealous and try to sabotage it for them. Some of this years finalists are great singers and don't sound like karaoke singers. I'm sure the huge majority of people don't think they do anyway, just jealous people.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

I think it's a fantastic idea. Doubt I'm bothered enough to buy the single, considering I already have it, but I agree with the sentiment.

RxQueen

unlike last year, when people tried to do this aswell, with a song simon also had the rights for, so in doing so lined his pockets even more!!

I watch the xfactor, love it, but have never purchased one cd belonging to anybody on it.. they just not my cup of tea, they all turn out to be manafactured pop crap... however in saying that love RATM.. and just think it would be awesome to see them at number one.. altho i very much doubt that they will.. but even a top ten, would be pretty funny!

That_Guy

Genius idea. They should've picked something more abstract though.

BIRD BIRD BIRD. BIRD IS THE WORD.

leggo

43,000 sales doesn't get you a Christmas number one though.

Now if it was The Chipmunks...I'd be all for this...

franklyshocked

Talk about censorship, this Facebook page has been shut down. Probably by cowell!

df1985

still works for me.313000 members now!

paulhannon

Biggins wrote: »

This year the Christmas No.1 will be announced on Sunday 20th December

Which means FOR ENGLAND (not sure about Ireland)...
ONLY buy the track from 7Digital / iTunes / Play.com between these dates:
SUNDAY 13/12 from 00:01am -to- SATURDAY 19/12 at 11:59pm

Irish dates are between the 18th and the 23rd. Although IRMA told me the count starts from the night of the 17th


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=231784611232

Biggins

Simon Cowell: No 1 campaign stupid

Simon Cowell has branded a campaign to prevent the X Factor winner from having the Christmas No 1 single as "stupid" and "cynical".

He also said he felt it was "dismissive" of the show's viewers and that he felt the campaign was aimed at him.
A group set up on Facebook is calling for people to make rock band Rage Against The Machine's 1992 single Killing In The Name this year's No 1.
It currently has 548,000 members.

Speaking at a press conference with the competition's finalists Stacey Solomon, Joe McElderry and Olly Murs, and its judges Dannii Minogue, Cheryl Cole and Louis Walsh, Simon said: "If there's a campaign, and I think the campaign's aimed directly at me, it's stupid. Me having a No 1 record at Christmas is not going to change my life particularly.
"It does however change these guys' lives and we put this opportunity there so that the winner of the X Factor gets the chance of having a big hit record.
"I think it's quite a cynical campaign geared at me which is actually going to spoil the party for these three.
"I also think it's incredibly dismissive of the people who watch and enjoy the show... to treat our audiences as if they're stupid and I don't like that."

Simon also played down the impact of the trend for the X Factor's winner to take the No 1 spot.
He said: "Everyone has this slightly distorted view of Christmas No 1s being incredible. There was that ghastly Cliff Richard song a few years ago, Bob The Builder. So we haven't exactly taken away anything special, it just so happens that our record, to coincide with the show, goes out at Christmas.

http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/10122009/19/simon-cowell-1-campaign-stupid.html

Another article here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1234858/Simon-Cowell-slams-Facebook-campaign-attempting-prevent-X-Factor-Christmas-number-one.html

rebel girl 15

597,735 members now, refreshed the page a couple of mins later, 597,890. they'll probably have 600,000 by the end of the day!

Takk

Main UK group has over 700,000 members and has crashed again.

(It has also raised over £16,700 for charity)

UK 'back-up' Group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=mf&gid=37655682127


As mentioned, the Irish Group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=ts&gid=231784611232

Don't buy until Dec 18th or it won't count towards Christmas #1 sales here.

(Phantom FM also supporting this and, for those who wish to, suggest donating to Focus Ireland)

Diabhal Beag

Snowballs chance in hell that Rage will be at number 1

suitcasepink

Joe will get the number 1, though if everyone who joins that page buys the cd...

Laois_Man

I think the people who oranize this are a little bit thick

Instead of choosing the song that without their campaign would probably be #2 to the X-Factor winner (or at least one that would surely be somewhere in the top 10 at least), they pick some obscure yoke that means they're working from a starting point of zero - giving them an enormous amount of 'extra' copies to sell to get the track to number 1. I would have thought they'd have learned from this same mistake last year....but hell no!

Laois_Man

Laois_Man wrote: »

I think the people who oranize this are a little bit thick

Instead of choosing the song that without their campaign would probably be #2 to the X-Factor winner (or at least one that would surely be somewhere in the top 10 at least), they pick some obscure yoke that means they're working from a starting point of zero - giving them an enormous amount of 'extra' copies to sell to get the track to number 1. I would have thought they'd have learned from this same mistake last year....but hell no!

Killing in the name is hardly obscure. Part of the "fun" is trying to get a 17 year old song to number one, and raise a bit of cash for charity in the process.

Laois_Man

Deleted User wrote: »

Killing in the name is hardly obscure. Part of the "fun" is trying to get a 17 year old song to number one, and raise a bit of cash for charity in the process.

OK...Obscure was a poor choice of a word by me.

The point is if their goal is to displace X-Factor from Christmas #1, they're not going the cleverest way about it.

But if the goal is to have fun with it, ah well why didn't they say so.

P.S. I didn't know it was anything to do with charity.

Catari Jaguar

Laois_Man wrote: »

OK...Obscure was a poor choice of a word by me.

The point is if their goal is to displace X-Factor from Christmas #1, they're not going the cleverest way about it.

But if the goal is to have fun with it, ah well why didn't they say so.

P.S. I didn't know it was anything to do with charity.

The top songs are Su Bo, JLS, Cheryl Cole, Lady Gaga, Black Eyed Peas, Rihanna, Alexandra and Leona.

5 of these are on Cowell's label, the other groups got publicity on X Factor and are on Sony too I think

paulhannon

Don't forget there is the Irish Rage for Xmas facebook group.

And DONT BUY THE SINGLE IN IRELAND UNTIL AFTER THE 18TH!!!!

please let people interested know this!!!


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=2228594104#/group.php?gid=231784611232&ref=ts

paulhannon

Laois_Man wrote: »

I think the people who oranize this are a little bit thick

Instead of choosing the song that without their campaign would probably be #2 to the X-Factor winner (or at least one that would surely be somewhere in the top 10 at least), they pick some obscure yoke that means they're working from a starting point of zero - giving them an enormous amount of 'extra' copies to sell to get the track to number 1. I would have thought they'd have learned from this same mistake last year....but hell no!

If you knew how the charts are counted then you would know that they are taken from the sales of the previous week to the publication of the chart and not added up week on week.

ie if i single sold 5000 copies one week, it doesn't meant that those 5000 are counted again the following week. Otherwise we'd still have Michael Jacksons Thriller at number one all these years later!

Laois_Man

Lil Kitten wrote: »

The top songs are Su Bo, JLS, Cheryl Cole, Lady Gaga, Black Eyed Peas, Rihanna, Alexandra and Leona.

5 of these are on Cowell's label, the other groups got publicity on X Factor and are on Sony too I think

Black Eye'd Peas are on Universal...That'd do!

Hell, even Terry Wogan's new song would do....at least they'd be picking a song that's already in the charts anyway and wouldn't have as far to climb!

Takk

Laois_Man wrote: »

at least they'd be picking a song that's already in the charts anyway and wouldn't have as far to climb!

What you're saying doesn't make any sense.

Every song is starting from the same point (zero) at the start of every week.

As Paul said:

paulhannon wrote: »

if i single sold 5000 copies one week, it doesn't meant that those 5000 are counted again the following week. Otherwise we'd still have Michael Jacksons Thriller at number one all these years later!

Laois_Man

Takk wrote: »

What you're saying doesn't make any sense.

Every song is starting from the same point (zero) at the start of every week.

As Paul said:

Of course it makes sense....you're just not understanding.

If they chose a song like the new Back Eyed Peas single, they have loads of help from people who have nothing to do with this campaign or who perhaps don't even know about it but who are buying the single anyway....of which there will be thousands due to the fact that it will be in the top 10 regardless ....thereby, giving themselves a good start. Easy!

Biggins

Looks like the X-factor song is on track to be beaten...

...news has just reached Snap, Crackle and Pop that Rage Against The Machine are on course to defeat Joe McElderry and thwart Simon Cowell in his bid to claim a fifth straight festive chart-topper.

According to midweek figures, Rage's "Killing In The Name" leads the "X-Factor" winner's showpiece effort, "The Climb", by around 5,000 units. The news has been confirmed by the Official Charts Company, with a spokesman gushing: "This is shaping up to be a very exciting battle between two different records which have captured the nation's imagination. But, although Rage Against The Machine have started off in front, according to our initial sales estimates, there is no doubt that this tussle is far from over."

http://new.uk.music.yahoo.com/blogs/snapcrackleandpop/33227/rage-winning-chart-battle/

Takk

Laois_Man wrote: »

Of course it makes sense....you're just not understanding.

If they chose a song like the new Back Eyed Peas single, they have loads of help from people who have nothing to do with this campaign or who perhaps don't even know about it but who are buying the single anyway....of which there will be thousands due to the fact that it will be in the top 10 regardless ....thereby, giving themselves a good start. Easy!

What you said first didn't make any sense. This post makes clearer what you were trying to say.

Biggins

Biggins wrote: »

Looks like the X-factor song is on track to be beaten...



http://new.uk.music.yahoo.com/blogs/snapcrackleandpop/33227/rage-winning-chart-battle/

Need to remember physical sales are going to bridge that gap quite quickly. Its only 5000 units ahead.

billy the squid

perpersonally I would have gone for the terry wogan one. it will sell as such a well known figure singing when it is not what they are best known foris bound to draw in additional sales, plus it is for charity.

remember how well kate winslet and nicole kidman singles did.

That_Guy

Surely Rage have to be number 1. That X-Factor single is dire.

EKRIUQ

Is there any place where I can download this song in Ireland where it will contribute towards the UK charts, I've tried Amazon but no go.

(I original bought this album in 1992, but have lost the tape, and tape player)

Takk

EKRIUQ wrote: »

Is there any place where I can download this song in Ireland where it will contribute towards the UK charts, I've tried Amazon but no go.

I'd imagine you'd need to have/fake a UK IP address for it to count towards the UK chart.

http://www.tunetribe.com/search/all/?searchtext=Killing+In+The+Name&submit=Search

Apparently that works for all of y'all in Ireland.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Joe McElderry is a little music snob... I didn't have a problem with him up until an hour ago until I read his thoughts on "Killing In The Name", claiming that it wasn't music, it was just noise and that he'd never listen to it and doesn't think anyone should.
I was always gonna be on the Rage Against The Machine side of the war, but actually felt sorry for Joe for awhile. Not anymore. Cheryl Cole has been almost as bad as him, but I forgive her because she's hot. Joe's just a d**khead.

soccymonster

CaptainNegative wrote: »

Joe McElderry is a little music snob... I didn't have a problem with him up until an hour ago until I read his thoughts on "Killing In The Name", claiming that it wasn't music, it was just noise and that he'd never listen to it and doesn't think anyone should.
I was always gonna be on the Rage Against The Machine side of the war, but actually felt sorry for Joe for awhile. Not anymore. Cheryl Cole has been almost as bad as him, but I forgive her because she's hot. Joe's just a d**khead.

Ya know, he does have a point.
I looked it up on youtube because I never heard of them and turned it off after about a minute.
They could have picked a decent song at least!
I hope Joe gets No.1 because that RATM is.. well.. blaaahh!

**Timbuk2**

What people would actually get their credit cards out to buy a terrible song just so they can see X Factor not being number 1?

What a load of balls!

Also Starring LeVar Burton

soccymonster wrote: »

Ya know, he does have a point.
I looked it up on youtube because I never heard of them and turned it off after about a minute.
They could have picked a decent song at least!
I hope Joe gets No.1 because that RATM is.. well.. blaaahh!

That's your opinion though. Personally I think The Climb is a terrible track. Killing In The Name was chosen because it's completely different from anything currently in the charts and it's symbolic. And there are plenty of RATM ans out there, including myself.

Useful.Idiot

terrible song? what are you people on about?

Tis a great song, definitely better than joe's **** drivel.

soccymonster

Useful.Idiot wrote: »

terrible song? what are you people on about?

Tis a great song, definitely better than joe's **** drivel.

Guess it's just my opinion.
All I hear is a big buncha noise..

overexcitedaj

soccymonster wrote: »

Guess it's just my opinion.
All I hear is a big buncha noise..

.... and that bunch of noise kicks ass

Namlub

Deleted User wrote: »

If people want to buy the X Factor winners single, they should. Simon Cowell might be making millions from it but if his act is good, there is no reason why people should be jealous and try to sabotage it for them. Some of this years finalists are great singers and don't sound like karaoke singers. I'm sure the huge majority of people don't think they do anyway, just jealous people.

Is anyone stopping them? And saying people only want to see this song defeated because they're jealous is such a lazy argument. Yeah, who doesn't want to be Joe McElderry?

Mind you, I may leave the RATM facebook group, I'm getting about 5 messages a day from them at this stage telling me I should buy the song at least three times because the lead has slipped. Um, I'm not THAT bothered...

**Timbuk2**

As a matter of interest, what time tomorrow will the charts be released?

And it's released first on BBC Radio 1, right?

suitcasepink

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

As a matter of interest, what time tomorrow will the charts be released?

And it's released first on BBC Radio 1, right?

I recomend anytime from half 6-7ish to google bbc charts, thats what I always do. Saves me listening to the radio for 3 hours.

Namlub

Namlub wrote: »

Is anyone stopping them? And saying people only want to see this song defeated because they're jealous is such a lazy argument. Yeah, who doesn't want to be Joe McElderry?

Mind you, I may leave the RATM facebook group, I'm getting about 5 messages a day from them at this stage telling me I should buy the song at least three times because the lead has slipped. Um, I'm not THAT bothered...

No one is stopping them but the RATM campaign is asking them not to support Joe! They shouldn't let a campaign dictate what they want to buy. I meant jealous that he's got a good shot at getting the no.1 spot. and it's obviously a factor in the campaign. No X Factor winner has the automatic right to a No. 1 single but because their single is released just before Christmas they usually end up getting it! I don't see the problem is here, they are in competition with loads of other artists and are obviously good enough. I'd rather see Joe get it than the likes of Cheryl Cole, Lady Gaga, or Black Eyed Peas!

Personally, I think Joe's and RATM's songs are the height of rubbish!

Biggins

I see Simons company has dumped the price of Joe's crap song down to 29p JUST to beat RATM. Talk about dirty tactics and any trick in the book.
See: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1237259/Pressure-gets-X-Factor-winner-Joe-McElderry-race-Christmas-No-1-slashes-single-price-just-29p.html

RATM have said the profits from the sales of their song is going entirely to charity.
I wonder would scrooge Simon do the same!

Biggins

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

What people would actually get their credit cards out to buy a terrible song just so they can see X Factor not being number 1?

What a load of balls!

I would - and now, did.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

I'd love to audition for X-Factor next year and go in singing Killing In The Name... I bet that'll be 4 no's right off the mark, just for song choice alone.

masteroftherealm

I did

Killin the name is the song of a generation, and proceeds to charity yes please

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Catari Jaguar

Hey. Joe is currently number 1 in Irish chart.

RATM is number 3 with 2 other versions being 10 and 11... :rolleyes:

You can buy it for 99c to get into the Irish charts here:

7 digital

You have to sign up, but can pay with paypal, laser or CC.