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Tips for MW2?

  • 30-11-2009 03:13PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering has anyone any tips they can give me for playing multiplayer on MW2? I'm rank 40 or something like that but my average score in team deathmatch is usually around 10 kills 17 deaths or something and ive only ranked up because I try loads of guns.

    I seen a video on youtube by a fella called hutch giving sniping tips and he seems to be able to pick of shots with ease.

    For sniping what sort of sensitivty should of have on the controls etc? Basically any advice? Im a bit crap.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Camping is a bit ghey i think, maybe others will disagree, but i find sniping to be quite boring sometimes.

    You should really try the combo of marathon pro, lightweight pro, ninja pro, using the P90 Silenced and the Thumper, C4 and Stun grenades.

    Works like a treat in Free for all, no matter the map.

    for TDM, i'd use marathon pro, L86 LW silenced (sp), thumper, and then i normally use cold blooded and ninja pro.


    Been getting me 25+ kills with 3-4 deaths on FFA and about 20-30 on TDM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭joe123


    This fella uses the sniper rifle but doesnt camp. Hes a bit good!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    This was the first COD game I've played, and the first time I've ever played a FPS online. I'm having a ball, but am far from expert in it yet. I've just got my kill:death ratio up to about .7 now, but that means I'm a little bit better than 1:1 at this stage, as I was getting horrific results to start with and before I learned the maps a bit.

    I have only gotten to about level 20 so far, as only really got playing online last week. Here's what I've found to be useful, and it might help a bit.

    1. I toyed with the sensitivity a bit changing from Medium up one level. I'm not sure if that brings you from 3 to 4 or from 2 to 3. Either way, I didn't like it and changed back after 1 day. By all means try it, but I found the scope jumping all over the place.

    2. Sniping isn't camping. So ignore comments criticising it. It might get a bit dull though if no one is coming past, and you will have to move around a bit as people will try to get revenge using the KillCam. I also don't think it works on any small or medium maps. The thought of trying to use a Barrett etc in Rust for example seems crazy. So my point is that if you do want to focus on sniping, you'll need to become decent at another weapon also to cope with certain maps. Or you just skip out of games on small maps. Which seems a shame.

    3. When you say you've only gotten to lvl 40 by using loads of guns, I'm not sure what you mean. Have you unlocked all the attachments to them? I'd suggest picking one or two weapons that you like the feel of and focus on them. See which ones you find easiest to use. For example the scope, the recoil, the damage level etc. Then try to stick with the gun as much as possible to really get the handle on it. Once I got to Level 8, I stuck with the Scar. I'm now around level 20 and I've unlocked attachments like Heart Beat sensor, silencer, ACOG sight, Thermal sight etc. With the Bling perk, I've set up custom classes for different scenarios. For example, on a small map for Domination, I've discovered that a grenade launcher is great. Add in a heart beat to that and you've got a nice advantage I've found.

    4. With regards to in game action, using the scar as primary I can fight up close or from distance. I tend to link it with a Shotgun. So on big maps I can pick people off with the ACOG sight. But on smaller maps, particularly ones with corridors, I move to the shotgun as I move around corners and enter rooms. Then I don't normally have to scope to kill people as the blast is wide enough to get them. I'm just using the AA-12 at the moment, which gives a short quick burst of bullets. I find the small maps like Rust fun, but very quick with lots of kills and deaths. You have to be very quick to get the kill first with any delay in aiming/shooting usually leaving me dead. Bigger maps like Estate and Wasteland are more forgiving I find, with also more long range shot options.

    5. I've also used Youtube a bit, watching videos of people playing. I concentrate more on their movement around the maps though to see how they play. Also what perks and equipment they link together.

    6. Lastly, I'm trying to concentrate on improving my Kill:Death ratio constantly as I figure it's the best sign of improvement. The better you get at that, the better you are getting at the game I think. Getting 25 kills but 28 deaths isn't as impressive as 16 kills and 8 deaths in my opinion.

    But then again, I'm a total noob when it comes to this, so maybe I'm way off. LoL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭yimrsg


    Well tbh with you 10 kills and 17 deaths isn't that great (constructive criticism :p) in team deathmatch as you'll never be able to call in any decent killstreaks. Try aiming for a positive kills to deaths ratio (kpd), eg. 17 kills to 10 deaths. Get familiar with levels and where enemies spawn, congregate at choke points where you did well in a level and where you kept getting killed.

    If you change some of your tactics during the game eg less aggressive when there is a room full of enemies and use stun grenades to give yourself an advantage in a shootout. Also choose perks to taylor specifically to a style of play that suits, eg heart beat detector if you're getting snuck up on by enemies constantly, scavenger if you have an itchy trigger finger, steady aim if you hip fire alot.

    Sniping works well in certain maps but you're often reliant on your teammates being competant and not bullet magnets. Often you'll get great scores one round then get your @ss handed to you after the team gets auto-balanced in the next. I also use the default sensitivity on the 360. I enjoy sniping as you can create a no-go zone for enemies and deny an enemy an objective.

    Finally, kill streaks are pretty important too, having them set at too high and they're useless you're better off sticking with lower kills streaks till you get a +ive kpd. UAV's and counter UAV's can be deadly when used together.
    Happy hunting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭Single Malt


    joe123 wrote: »
    Just wondering has anyone any tips they can give me for playing multiplayer on COD2? Im rank 40 or something like that but my average score in team deathmatch is usually around 10 kills 17 deaths or something and ive only ranked up because I try loads of guns.

    I seen a video on youtube by a fella called hutch giving sniping tips and he seems to be able to pick of shots with ease.

    For sniping what sort of sensitivty should of have on the controls etc? Basically any advice? Im a bit crap.
    I'll let you away with it, but don't confuse the best CoD game with Modern Warfare 2;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    Have a wander around maps offline on your own, learn as much as you can


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭holdithoncho


    joe123 wrote: »
    Just wondering has anyone any tips they can give me for playing multiplayer on MW2? I'm rank 40 or something like that but my average score in team deathmatch is usually around 10 kills 17 deaths or something and ive only ranked up because I try loads of guns.

    I seen a video on youtube by a fella called hutch giving sniping tips and he seems to be able to pick of shots with ease.

    For sniping what sort of sensitivty should of have on the controls etc? Basically any advice? Im a bit crap.

    probably the most important thing u need when sniping is a GOOD CONNECTION its next to impossible otherwise and plenty of practise the players u c on youtube only got good through practice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,756 ✭✭✭weisses


    It has nothing to do with skills imo ... just sit back with a medium to long range weapon .. hope for a 4 kill streak get your crate and pray for an attack chopper ... I'm a rush player sins MoH allied assault .. It gets you nowhere running around in MW2 ... to much whining anyway ...noobtube martyrf*g last stand kiddie ... everyone is moaning about the hb sensor and so on and so on ...

    So my only tip is stay back and make sure you get your killstreak awards :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭micks


    weisses wrote: »
    It has nothing to do with skills imo ... just sit back with a medium to long range weapon .. hope for a 4 kill streak get your crate and pray for an attack chopper ... I'm a rush player sins MoH allied assault .. It gets you nowhere running around in MW2 ... to much whining anyway ...noobtube martyrf*g last stand kiddie ... everyone is moaning about the hb sensor and so on and so on ...

    So my only tip is stay back and make sure you get your killstreak awards :cool:
    Simple as that
    Also play HQ - gets you very familar with maps quickly
    HQ and Domination are better that TD IMO as their is a focus/direction that you know the opposition can come from as opposed to TD
    I'm average enough player up at 59 or so if i relax and wait for them to come to me I do well if i go running and gunning its a lottery ! some good some bad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    shawpower wrote: »

    2. Sniping isn't camping. So ignore comments criticising it.


    6. Lastly, I'm trying to concentrate on improving my Kill:Death ratio constantly as I figure it's the best sign of improvement. The better you get at that, the better you are getting at the game I think. Getting 25 kills but 28 deaths isn't as impressive as 16 kills and 8 deaths in my opinion.

    Sniping is camping - - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camping_(video_gaming)


    and you're ranked on your kills, not on you kdr, so 32 kills and 30 deaths is better than 15 kills and 3 deaths.

    That said, I'm averaging about 25ish to 3-6 deaths on FFA by running around with my P90 marathon pro and lightweight pro, and for alot of levels, Ninja pro is awesome.

    Not a pro by any means, Jus' dropping my €0.02


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭Burning Eclipse


    shawpower wrote: »
    6. Lastly, I'm trying to concentrate on improving my Kill:Death ratio constantly as I figure it's the best sign of improvement. The better you get at that, the better you are getting at the game I think. Getting 25 kills but 28 deaths isn't as impressive as 16 kills and 8 deaths in my opinion.
    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    and you're ranked on your kills, not on you kdr, so 32 kills and 30 deaths is better than 15 kills and 3 deaths.

    You're missing his (valid) point. Both of your examples have a positive kill to death spread, there's no argument there. In the original post it's negative (25:28) as compared to positive (16:8). In team deathmatch for example, the second player is more valuable, simple as, because it is a zero sum game (discounting suicides ;))! Your example is different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    You're missing his (valid) point. Both of your examples have a positive kill to death spread, there's no argument there. In the original post it's negative (25:28) as compared to positive (16:8). In team deathmatch for example, the second players is more valuable, simple as, because it is a zero sum game (discounting suicides ;))! Your example is different.

    Sorry, meant to have it to the other way around, 30 kills 32 deaths.

    that is still a better haul IMO than 15 kills and 3 deaths, rankwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭Burning Eclipse


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Sorry, meant to have it to the other way around, 30 kills 32 deaths.

    that is still a better haul IMO than 15 kills and 3 deaths, rankwise.

    But only if you're playing FFA. In TDM you are either an asset or a liability to your team, you are + or - to the balance! Hence, 15:3 would be much better, because you're contributing 1500 points to your team, but only 300 to the opposing team.

    On top of all of that Kills to Deaths means SFA in objective based games!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    But only if you're playing FFA. In TDM you are either an asset or a liability to your team, you are + or - to the balance! Hence, 15:3 would be much better, because you're contributing 1500 points to your team, but only 300 to the opposing team.

    On top of all of that Kills to Deaths means SFA in objective based games!

    Yeah, I'm talking about FFA and the likes of domination and such, TDM isn't what i play most, hate when i get stuck with a sh!t team that just run in circles and stand in doorways, i mean they always run into each other at the start when they take off, this one dude even ran in front of me as i was jumping to a different ledge and killed me by suicide as i fell to the ground.

    Horrible stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭minotour


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Sniping is camping - - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camping_(video_gaming)

    Wikipedia says so therefore its true?

    in reality Sniping requires skill, as does counter sniping. Especially in MW2, there are very few decent snipe spots by design, the best being the crane and the top of the building in Highrise. Regardless, a good player can recognise a Barret by sound and pinpoint by combination of radar and direction.............conversly a good sniper will have a decent setup to avoid detection, silencer, ninja, cold blood etc.

    IMO sniping is technically camping but not in a negative sense like some geebag with an RPD sitting watching the bomb/flag in sabotage/CTF for example.

    .........and thats my €0.02



    Now i cant wait to get home, honestly this game has destroyed my productivity at work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    minotour wrote: »
    Wikipedia says so therefore its true?

    in reality Sniping requires skill, as does counter sniping. Especially in MW2, there are very few decent snipe spots by design, the best being the crane and the top of the building in Highrise. Regardless, a good player can recognise a Barret by sound and pinpoint by combination of radar and direction.............conversly a good sniper will have a decent setup to avoid detection, silencer, ninja, cold blood etc.

    IMO sniping is technically camping but not in a negative sense like some geebag with an RPD sitting watching the bomb/flag in sabotage/CTF for example.

    .........and thats my €0.02



    Now i cant wait to get home, honestly this game has destroyed my productivity at work.


    I never said it was a detrimental way to play the game, or that it didn't require skill, all i said was i found it boring.

    And actually, there's a much better spot than that on highrise, it's just waaaaaaaay harder to get to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    It is and it isn't. I snipe using an MG4 and a thermal scope. Usually don't stay in the same position for too long, as people will find find you due to Kill-Cam. If I'm playing demolition, I may be camping in the same spot, watching the bomb, for quite some time. May only get one kill, but meh, sometimes that's enough to win.
    minotour wrote: »
    IMO sniping is technically camping but not in a negative sense like some geebag with an RPD sitting watching the bomb/flag in sabotage/CTF for example.
    You know when you've pissed off someone when they storm the place trying to kill you. That, or they call you a "geebag" on the internet :P I defend, and to defend, I kill. In the time it takes for a bolt action sniper to slot in the next shell, I'll be dead. Or, rather, they'll be dead, as this geebag will be shooting with full auto :D
    joe123 wrote: »
    This fella uses the sniper rifle but doesnt camp. Hes a bit good!
    He brought up a few things I never thought about. Cool. Will try some of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 special_ed


    But only if you're playing FFA. In TDM you are either an asset or a liability to your team, you are + or - to the balance! Hence, 15:3 would be much better, because you're contributing 1500 points to your team, but only 300 to the opposing team.

    On top of all of that Kills to Deaths means SFA in objective based games!
    It is possible to finish -ve and still be an asset to your team - stealing care packages from the opposition, getting a UAV enabling your team to get more kills, shooting down helicopters etc (you can shoot down 3 or 4 attack copters and harriers in a game and it won't be reflected in your K/D) and stopping enemies short of a big killstreak. Of course if you're constantly finishing 3 and 14 you're not really helping out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    I think a couple of the folks here have backed up my points, but thought I'd reply anyway.

    In most games, finishing with a negative k:d ratio means you are not doing great. So trying to improve this and get it to over 1:1 means in general you are improving. Hence my point about 16:8 being better than the 25:28.

    When I said Sniping isn't camping, I meant it from the point of view of camping in the worst sense. As in sitting over spawn sites etc. Obviously as a sniper you have to "camp" to a certain extent. It's practically impossible to use the sniping gun in maps like favela running around on the ground level. Too tight, too much scope zoom. So obviously you have to play it differently. In the same way as in a real war, there are different tactics depending on what weapon you use. Staying high or on the periphery is a natural tactic for a sniper and isn't really camping in a negative sense. I certainly don't get annoyed by someone doing it. If anything someone knifing me annoys me more than someone taking me out with a barrett from miles away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dacian


    the_syco wrote: »
    He brought up a few things I never thought about. Cool. Will try some of that.
    I think his point that accuracy isn't the most important thing for a sniper in MW2 is true. In real life sniping and sharpshooting are similar yet different disciplines. With killcam its too hard to be a stationary sniper, so snipers need to be mobile and for that you need good reactions and knowledge of the maps.

    My reactions are **** so I'm an awful sniper. Too much booze over the years are to blame.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    I Don't snipe much, i do it a small bit, but i do it with marathon pro and a nice handgun/shotgun so i can get stuck in to the middle of it, and still take someone out from a good distance if i spot some movement.

    And going to what that other guy said about a high k:d ratio means you're playing better...

    That's not true, for a few modes, domination, capture the flag, etc etc, i played domination for the whole day yesterday while i was playing, and rarely did i come out with a k:d above 1:1 but was always the person who was top of the score list.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    While what hutch does makes sence, hes playing against lvl 20ish scrubs. And his aim isn't even that good.

    The main tips i would give are:

    Pick a primary weapon you like and stick with it, i took the m4 and have fully mastered it now. Im constantly chaning my secondary just to get different akimbo/fmj setups.

    I always go with flash and a claymore, just because they are awesome.

    Also, dont play alone if possible. I play with a few friends and we will always cover one part of the map or work as a team covering each other, using ts2 helps too.

    With the above tips me and a few friends who play are always the top on any game type we play, which is now mainly hardcore TDM with some S&D, Sabo and CTF thown in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    Only got the game recently but I have a lot of experience with these kinds of games albeit on the PC...

    Playing MW2 on the PS3 proved difficult for me as I was used to mouse keyboard setup - I dont have time to spend playing on the PC these days so I prefer being able to jump in to a quick game on the PS3...

    Anyway, sensitivity on the controls was too slow for me so I set it between medium and high, number 4 I think...

    Doing this has made a difference to my performance, not a massive difference but now I feel I'm improving as opposed to being absolutely raped in every game because I felt the controls were too sluggish...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,475 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Like what Anti said.

    Plus the easiest sniper rifle is the WA2000...rapid firing, low recoil and extremely accurate. Put a heartbeat monitor and silencer on this in hardcore and you're laughing especially on the snow maps with the camouflaged ghille...
    Have a P2000 with silencer and extended mags for backup.
    Perks: Bling/ Cold Blood/ Ninja (blocks out heartbear sensors) or iron lung.


    For other maps I use Scar-H with red dot and Heartbeat with dual G18s and extended mags (a lot of people don't realise with bling that you can also use 2 attachments on your secondary weapon) and up close nothing will beat dual g18s at full firerate..I'v gone up against 3 guys in a room and taken them all out
    Perks are bling/shot power and last stand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    I never said it was a detrimental way to play the game, or that it didn't require skill, all i said was i found it boring.

    And actually, there's a much better spot than that on highrise, it's just waaaaaaaay harder to get to.

    Better than on top of the building ?
    Where ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Better than on top of the building ?
    Where ?

    Actually depends which building he's talking about??

    There's two buildings that can be got to, one by running down the crane, and the other by jumping and climbing up the side of the hanging down lift.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    And going to what that other guy said about a high k:d ratio means you're playing better...

    That's not true, for a few modes, domination, capture the flag, etc etc, i played domination for the whole day yesterday while i was playing, and rarely did i come out with a k:d above 1:1 but was always the person who was top of the score list.

    Do you mean overall for the game, or the top of the score list on your team? Presume the first, but a bad k:d ratio could actually hand an advantage to your opposition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    Berkut wrote: »
    (a lot of people don't realise with bling that you can also use 2 attachments on your secondary weapon)

    That is Bling Pro isn't it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    shawpower wrote: »
    Do you mean overall for the game, or the top of the score list on your team? Presume the first, but a bad k:d ratio could actually hand an advantage to your opposition.

    For the game, and a bad k:d ratio gives very little advantage to the opposition.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    For the game, and a bad k:d ratio gives very little advantage to the opposition.

    Don't the opposition get points each time they kill you in Domination, towards the 200 point limit? I thought it was for taking a flag, and also for kills.


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