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Anyone here who's school doesn't do PE?

  • 29-11-2009 4:29pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36


    In 6th year and PE has been taken off us this year.
    It was taken off us because some people weren't doing it, but that is just an excuse and a really crap one at that.
    Everyone goes up at lunch to the shops and eat fast food and sweets, and I thought the schools were battling with the obesity problem... seems not.
    I thought it was illegal to do this?

    Does your school allow you to do PE (Physical Education)? 61 votes

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭Doyler92


    Well in our school , in sixth year you choose whether to do it or not. In all other years it's compulsory.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    It's more likely it's been taken off you due to staffing cutbacks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭DancingQueen:)


    In 6th year now and we get a choice whether to do PE or have a study class. I think it works pretty well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 jesus!tony


    I understand that some of you have the choice, but surely it wrong not to at least have the choice to do it. We are forced not to do it... PE that is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭BDR


    We have to, I'd love the choice though.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Schools are supposed to provide PE for all students, 2 hours per week. PE is considered a second tier subject in most schools as it is not an exam subject, and because of that, principals are happy to cut in it order to give more time to academic subjects. 88% of school principals surveyed recently said they are in favour of compulsary PE classes, where as the number drops to 53% for senior cycle.

    Its disgraceful that students are not being provided PE for all, I presonally think it should be compulsary if it is an interesting class being provided by the PE teacher - not just them throwing in a football and whoever plays plays and whoever doesn't want to doesn't. Any school promoting a holistic education should be providing it for all years.

    Out of curiosity, for those of you that have a choice between PE and study
    1. Whats the breakdownm, roughly how many do what?
    2. Whats the PE class like? Is it structured?

    Thread over on teaching and lecturing about this -> http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055671743


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Johnny Giles


    The kids should have a choice. Throw in a football there. Let them have a kick-about. Most skills are learned on the street though. The fat kids should be forced to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭DancingQueen:)


    Out of curiosity, for those of you that have a choice between PE and study
    1. Whats the breakdownm, roughly how many do what?
    2. Whats the PE class like? Is it structured?


    I'd say about 10/15 people do PE and about 40 picked study instead then the other half of the year don't get a choice because they do LCVP.
    I wouldn't know about the PE course, i chose study :o not much of an athletic person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 jesus!tony


    Out of curiosity, for those of you that have a choice between PE and study
    1. Whats the breakdownm, roughly how many do what?
    2. Whats the PE class like? Is it structured?
    When we had PE
    1. Nobody studied they either played or else smoked. Everyone in frist year played but then more start smoking and by 3rd year about 10-15% smoke instead of play during PE.
    2. I loved it (although I do love my sport) the way it was just playing.
    Over the years we played soccer, indoor soccer, hurling, football, rugby, basketball, dodgeball and we also did some sprints, streches and things like that. Dodgeball was probably the best but its not something you would do everyweek.
    Back OT isn't 'your health your wealth?'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Johnny Giles


    In this country Wealth is Health


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭IHeartChemistry


    It's complsory for us, but I got a note and gave it up so I can get a study class a week. I'm on my own but sure :p means early lunch for me:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 jesus!tony


    It's complsory for us, but I got a note and gave it up so I can get a study class a week.
    Why the hell would you want to study instead of being with friends. You can do that at home.
    I'm on my own but sure :p means early lunch for me:p
    Yeah more time being a loner:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Johnny Giles


    Being with friends - PE.

    Better ways to do things I'd think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever


    I used to have to do it in sixth year. Up until I went into sixth year,there was the choice between PE and study classes for sixth years,but then it became compulsory.

    This year I'm a female repeat in an all boys school,so I'm not allowed to do it :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭DancingQueen:)


    There's other times to be with friends imo like breaks and lunches and in between classes. In a study class you can do homework or study for tests or whatever. I'd get excercise outside of school anyway so i prefer the study class but everyones different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭laura93


    Every year has to do it in my school
    I'd much rather have a choice though, but I can see why we don't
    I don't really mind PE, but I hate doing the same thing for 2 months like football and badminton because by the end of it, I just make excuses not to do PE, especially if I don't like what we're doing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭Seloth


    Moved to anew school for 5ht and 6th and it dosent do it here grrr


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    laura93 wrote: »
    Every year has to do it in my school
    I'd much rather have a choice though, but I can see why we don't
    I don't really mind PE, but I hate doing the same thing for 2 months like football and badminton because by the end of it, I just make excuses not to do PE, especially if I don't like what we're doing


    I'm doing PE teaching in college - junior cycle, yeah you do have to stick to the curriculum, but there is so much variation in it, its up to the individual teacher to be creative.

    For senior cycle, there is no curriculum, so the teacher can be extremely creative, though most aren't. Instead of studying about the heart (for those that do biology), why not learn about pulse etc in a health related fitness module in sixth year, relate it to academia, or how about doing something about fitness for life? If teachers recognised the huge different between junior cycle and senior cycle, and went away from the curriculum, then you'd have an increased participation rate. How many of ye would participate fully in something that is away from the junior cycle stuff of games etc, doing health related stuff?

    My post http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62790134&postcount=13 describes how the New Zealand system works - where you gain confidence in a skill (striking) by doing a load of different sports, and you actually end up being more confident in a wide variety of sports rather than just one like badminton or soccer.

    Games make up too much of the curriculum, figures are in the post above - we need to get away from just the games, and introduce more "thinking outside the box". Thats my take on it, from what I've learnt so far. There are very few schools making the 2 hours per week per student time, especially for senior cycle, and IMO PE is becoming more and more important,because obesity is a growing problem in Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭Lawliet


    jesus!tony wrote: »
    Why the hell would you want to study instead of being with friends. You can do that at home.
    I don't know what kind of PE they have at your school, but in most places it isn't just a class to doss around with your friends. You actually have to play sport. And not all of us are athletically inclined. I'd much rather study than make a fool out of myself in front my class, thank you very much.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 jesus!tony


    Lawliet wrote: »
    I don't know what kind of PE they have at your school, but in most places it isn't just a class to doss around with your friends. You actually have to play sport. And not all of us are athletically inclined. I'd much rather study than make a fool out of myself in front my class, thank you very much.
    Where did I say it was a doss? It's having a bit of fun with friends.
    Lawliet wrote: »
    You actually have to play sport. And not all of us are athletically inclined. I'd much rather study than make a fool out of myself in front my class, thank you very much.
    You are way too self-concious imo, what are you going to do fall, miss the ball? Who cares? Laugh about it and get over it!
    Being with friends - PE.

    Better ways to do things I'd think.
    How? Explain your posts man. If you are gooing to do something do it right


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    jesus!tony wrote: »

    You are way too self-concious imo, what are you going to do fall, miss the ball? Who cares? Laugh about it and get over it!

    Your obviously sports minded - there area lot of people that are quite self conscious when it comes to sports and that kind of quote doesn't help. Not everyone is sporty, so you have to respect that. Insulting people does not help!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 jesus!tony


    Your obviously sports minded - there area lot of people that are quite self conscious when it comes to sports and that kind of quote doesn't help. Not everyone is sporty, so you have to respect that. Insulting people does not help!
    I wouldn't say I am sports minded I try to be open minded. I am self concious about many things and welcome due criticism. From my post this person might learn to improve themselves and therefore it my post does help actually


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    jesus!tony wrote: »
    I wouldn't say I am sports minded I try to be open minded. I am self concious about many things and welcome due criticism. From my post this person might learn to improve themselves and therefore it my post does help actually

    Fair enough that you are open minded, your post came across as a bit flippant thats all.

    Another quick questions for everyone, curiosity more than anything
    what are the activites that ye have done in PE most often, throughout all your years in school?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 jesus!tony


    indoor soccer mostly, followed by hurling then football.
    Basketball,basketball and more basketball for the girls


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    We have compulsory PE until 5th yr, when one has the choice between PE or extra Irish/ art/ Geology. In 6th yr you can use that period for study. We have 80 mins of compulsory games every week for every year though. However, I'm currently doing table tennis, so it's not really the most excercising sport! After Easter in 6th yr one can do study instead of games too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Geard


    The school took P.E off us this year(5th year) to either do a xtra double maths class or double study class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭Lawliet


    jesus!tony wrote: »
    You are way too self-concious imo, what are you going to do fall, miss the ball? Who cares? Laugh about it and get over it!
    Yeah...speaking as someone who got bullied quite badly for years -PE being the pinnacle of that- laughing it off is a lot easier said than done.
    For you PE is a laugh, and that's fantastic. But for some of us PE was a weekly torture secession. And that's not something that's easy to laugh off and get over.
    jesus!tony wrote:
    From my post this person might learn to improve themselves and therefore it my post does help actually
    Hate to break it to you, but I don't think your post was even mildly helpful. I thought it was very narrow minded actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Smartly Dressed


    For as long as I can remember my school only does PE up to transition year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭IHeartChemistry


    jesus!tony wrote: »
    Why the hell would you want to study instead of being with friends. You can do that at home.

    Yeah more time being a loner:p


    In my school PE isn't exactly a doss class. My teacher is an abusive s**t who puts every single girl in our school down. I'd rather study so I can get my points rather than be verbally abused by a teacher. No actually, not more time being a ''loner''. More time getting homework out of the way :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    I did my leaving cert last year, but our school had P.E. Up to 3rd year. After that it was just cut. So 5th and 6th year had me gaining a few pounds :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 jesus!tony


    Lawliet wrote: »
    Yeah...speaking as someone who got bullied quite badly for years -PE being the pinnacle of that- laughing it off is a lot easier said than done.
    For you PE is a laugh, and that's fantastic. But for some of us PE was a weekly torture secession. And that's not something that's easy to laugh off and get over.
    Everyone gets teased or 'bullied' for something in school. Not being able to 'laugh it off', 'give it as good as you take it' take whichever phrase you wish, makes the situation more serious and only makes you a target
    Lawliet wrote: »
    Hate to break it to you, but I don't think your post was even mildly helpful. I thought it was very narrow minded actually.
    It would seem helpful to an open minded person.
    In my school PE isn't exactly a doss class. My teacher is an abusive s**t who puts every single girl in our school down.
    I think you are over-exaggerating your teachers behavior as you are the only one who does study.
    I'd rather study so I can get my points rather than be verbally abused by a teacher. No actually, not more time being a ''loner''. More time getting homework out of the way :)
    More study doesn't mean more points.Quality over quantity. Taking breaks improves efficiency.

    But anyway I can't keep arguing with people with these points of view.
    No point in trying to open a locked door.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Its either PE or a double study class in my year, I did study obviously.

    Why bother wasting your time in P.E. when you can get your homework done / study for tests at school. Its not as if I'm missing much, I will tell you exactly what we did for 1st - 3rd year

    1st year was a mix of fitness tests, running, football/basketball drills and maybe uni-hoc every once in a while.
    2nd year was hell on earth at the start, each week was go in get changed and do 3(!) laps of about 0.65 miles or something . Followed by 100m sprints, relays and the damn bleep test and general fitness test which measured how many pull ups and sit ups you can do. Well I have to say that despite me absolutely despising it for the entire year, I was able to reduce my lap time from a shocking 6 mins (:eek:) to about 3 1/2 minutes which was slightly above the average time.
    3rd year was the best though, all we did was a short warm up and a choice of either indoor basketball or outdoor football. I wasn't too great playing football out on the gravel and I got some pretty nasty injuries from tackles but it was definitley my favourite year for P.E.

    Can't believe the stories that some people smoke during P.E., where the hell are the teachers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    jesus!tony wrote: »
    Everyone gets teased or 'bullied' for something in school. Not being able to 'laugh it off', 'give it as good as you take it' take whichever phrase you wish, makes the situation more serious and only makes you a target
    The reality of it though is that those who are terrible at sports and great at school get bullied more often then the athletic people who are absolutely terrible at their subjects.

    More study doesn't mean more points.Quality over quantity. Taking breaks improves efficiency.
    Not if these breaks include being ridiculed or bullied. That would only make it worse.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 jesus!tony


    Yeah i wouldn't miss that PE much either.
    Smoking? Two teachers supervising over 100 students. Usually one inside one out.
    Sure what are they going to do. If people are going to smoke they are going to. Can't treat them like babies forever although they do act like it most of the time.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    jesus!tony wrote: »
    1.Everyone gets teased or 'bullied' for something in school. Not being able to 'laugh it off', 'give it as good as you take it' take whichever phrase you wish, makes the situation more serious and only makes you a target

    It would seem helpful to an open minded person.

    2. I think you are over-exaggerating your teachers behavior as you are the only one who does study.

    3.More study doesn't mean more points.Quality over quantity. Taking breaks improves efficiency.

    But anyway I can't keep arguing with people with these points of view.
    No point in trying to open a locked door.

    1 not everybody gets teased or bullied, some people do. A lot of teenagers have image issues, and it doesn't necessarily make them targets. Some people would rather not do something that they think they will be bad at, rather than trying it and making a fool of themselves. The bullying has obviously affected that poster quite badly, and by not doing it, they are avoiding the problem. Laughing it off does not solve the problem, the hurt of the bullying is still there.

    2. wouldn't believe that - I know what some teachers can be like, it that is the case, that poster is the only one taking themselves out of the situation, which can be very hard to do rather than bearing it, something which no student should have to do, has anything been said to the principal about him/her

    3. sport isn't the only break for people. Exercise is beneficial to people, but it does not have to be within the PE context. Some people are studiers and its their thing, and the more study they do, the more points they will get. Probably weird thing, but some people actually enjoy studying and learning new things! Maybe Iheartchem is trying to get homework out of the way to persue activities outside of school, without being under huge pressure??

    BTW, I'm of the view that students should be doing the compulsary 2 hours per week, or a double class, most def if the teacher is actually doing something good, that is relatable to the outside world.

    party, your PE teacher seemed hell bent of health related fitness, and some games - so many teachers stick to only what they know. There is a huge curriculum!!! Choice of sports, something that I've heard about and seen in action and does work!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 jesus!tony


    The reality of it though is that those who are terrible at sports and great at school get bullied more often then the athletic people who are absolutely terrible at their subjects.
    From the surface that might seem so but once you dig deeper you will see a sickening snobbery that exists.
    'great at school'- Covers two types of people in my opinion. The people who study for hours on end trying to get that ohh so important A or pat on the back. I'm not 'dissin' them atm. And the second, the people who just have ability- the people who can do HL maths at their ease. The first type might get teased the second give what they take. The first type aren't street smart usually. But its way too late for me to make any statement worth noting at the minute.Bed calls.Disregard anything i've said in this post. Don't try qoute me on it either. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭IHeartChemistry



    I think you are over-exaggerating your teachers behavior as you are the only one who does study.


    I'm the only one with an offical doctors note to get out, which is the only way we can get out of PE in my school. So basically you need to be ill and have a doctor to prove it! Not everyone can actually do that! A majority of them sit down in their uniforms and study in the gym and refuse to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭Lawliet


    jesus!tony wrote: »
    Everyone gets teased or 'bullied' for something in school. Not being able to 'laugh it off', 'give it as good as you take it' take whichever phrase you wish, makes the situation more serious and only makes you a target
    Oh the love the quotation marks on bullied there, an obvious attempt to down play a very horrible situation and make people's suffering sound trivial. I also enjoyed that slice of victim blaming at the end. So very open minded of you.
    Being bullied is in a very different league to being teased. It's having people gang up on you in an attempt to hurt and humiliate you. It's hard to laugh off a large group of your peers continuously chipping away at your self confidence. It's hard to laugh off someone stealing or vandalising your things.It's hard to laugh off someone injuring you. And it's very hard to laugh off someone sexually harassing you.

    This is off-topic so I'll just conclude by strongly suggesting that you keep your opinions about bullying to your, since you obviously don't know much about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 jesus!tony


    1 not everybody gets teased or bullied, some people do. A lot of teenagers have image issues, and it doesn't necessarily make them targets. Some people would rather not do something that they think they will be bad at, rather than trying it and making a fool of themselves. The bullying has obviously affected that poster quite badly, and by not doing it, they are avoiding the problem. Laughing it off does not solve the problem, the hurt of the bullying is still there.
    Everyone gets teased at school everyday.It may not be serious but this is how bullying develops alot of the time.
    2. wouldn't believe that - I know what some teachers can be like, it that is the case, that poster is the only one taking themselves out of the situation, which can be very hard to do rather than bearing it, something which no student should have to do, has anything been said to the principal about him/her
    She is the only one who studies. If a person can't bear something that everyone else can I think that person has to get over themselves. There are a thousand things alot more difficult that I have already done.
    3. sport isn't the only break for people. Exercise is beneficial to people, but it does not have to be within the PE context. Some people are studiers and its their thing, and the more study they do, the more points they will get. Probably weird thing, but some people actually enjoy studying and learning new things! Maybe Iheartchem is trying to get homework out of the way to persue activities outside of school, without being under huge pressure??
    I'm saying that it would be a refreshing rest from the usual class to class routine.Just studying-studying-studying isn't the proper way to do things.

    Mixing up quotes there tony. Putting words in people's mouths!
    I did not mix up any quotes. If I did point out where.
    I'm the only one with an offical doctors note to get out, which is the only way we can get out of PE in my school. So basically you need to be ill and have a doctor to prove it! Not everyone can actually do that! A majority of them sit down in their uniforms and study in the gym and refuse to do it.
    So most of the students ignore a teacher that shouts the head off them... Yeah you just showed you exaggerated how bad the teacher is
    Lawliet wrote: »
    Oh the love the quotation marks on bullied there, an obvious attempt to down play a very horrible situation and make people's suffering sound trivial. I also enjoyed that slice of victim blaming at the end. So very open minded of you.
    That 'slice' at the end wasn't victim blaming actually:rolleyes:. It was a piece of information/advice.
    Lawliet wrote: »
    Being bullied is in a very different league to being teased. It's having people gang up on you in an attempt to hurt and humiliate you. It's hard to laugh off a large group of your peers continuously chipping away at your self confidence. It's hard to laugh off someone stealing or vandalising your things.It's hard to laugh off someone injuring you. And it's very hard to laugh off someone sexually harassing you.
    Oh I never saw where she said about: a large group, stealing, vandalising, injuring or sexually harassing. Could you point out where these are for me Lawliet in this topic thread? Or are they all assumptions so you could make your points look better?
    Lawliet wrote: »
    This is off-topic so I'll just conclude by strongly suggesting that you keep your opinions about bullying to your, since you obviously don't know much about it.
    Yeah I didn't get my degree in it yet. Where did you get your information? I love your 'waffle'.
    Just because I am showing little sympathy doesn't mean I know little about it.
    Two entirely different things.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Johnny Giles


    jesus!tony wrote: »
    .

    Everyone gets teased at school everyday.It may not be serious but this is how bullying develops alot of the time.
    It develops because people get teased everyday? What exactly do you mean? Explain it a bit better please.

    She is the only one who studies. If a person can't bear something that everyone else can I think that person has to get over themselves. There are a thousand things alot more difficult that I have already done.
    What about suicide? Should people with suicidal tendancies get over themselves?

    I'm saying that it would be a refreshing rest from the usual class to class routine.Just studying-studying-studying isn't the proper way to do things.
    Some PE classes are not great. It may be handy to get homework out of the way in order to "rest" at home instead of resting at school


    I did not mix up any quotes. If I did point out where.
    Post #38

    So most of the students ignore a teacher that shouts the head off them... Yeah you just showed you exaggerated how bad the teacher is


    That 'slice' at the end wasn't victim blaming actually:rolleyes:. It was a piece of information/advice.

    Oh I never saw where she said about: a large group, stealing, vandalising, injuring or sexually harassing. Could you point out where these are for me Lawliet in this topic thread? Or are they all assumptions so you could make your points look better?

    Yeah I didn't get my degree in it yet. Where did you get your information? I love your 'waffle'.
    Just because I am showing little sympathy doesn't mean I know little about it.
    Two entirely different things.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Johnny Giles


    TONY.


    You show little sympathy in relation to Bullying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 jesus!tony


    1. Bullying develops out of teasing
    2. Everyone in school gets teased they should get over it.
    Not everyone has suicidal tendacies so therefore this is not relevant.
    3. In post #38 I am quoting post #35. The #35 post is my post with his words in bold added in. #35 he quotes with his additions in bold in #35.
    4.No I have sympathy for bullying but not much in this persons case due to reasons I wont comment to on a public forum.
    Done


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Everyone gets teased at school everyday.It may not be serious but this is how bullying develops alot of the time.

    No, everybody doesn't, some people do


    She is the only one who studies. If a person can't bear something that everyone else can I think that person has to get over themselves. There are a thousand things alot more difficult that I have already done.

    The others are sitting out in the gym in their uniforms, not participating either. She is doing something constructive out of it. I don't care about the difficult things you have done, it is obvious that this teacher is conducting themselves professionally.


    I'm saying that it would be a refreshing rest from the usual class to class routine.Just studying-studying-studying isn't the proper way to do things.

    Once again, you are assuming that the person in question does not do any outside activities. I for one, didn't do PE in sixth year when I could opt out of it, so I could go and do homework, in order to have time to go training in the evening. Some people like routine and going to school to learn, and much prefer to do their own exercise outside of school.



    So most of the students ignore a teacher that shouts the head off them... Yeah you just showed you exaggerated how bad the teacher is

    I don't believe so - not if there are that many students also sitting out of the class



    That 'slice' at the end wasn't victim blaming actually:rolleyes:. It was a piece of information/advice.

    You basically pointed out why people get bullied?

    Oh I never saw where she said about: a large group, stealing, vandalising, injuring or sexually harassing. Could you point out where these are for me Lawliet in this topic thread? Or are they all assumptions so you could make your points look better?

    Thats where teasing etc and constant knawing of self esteem can lead. I don't like the quotation marks around bullying either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 jesus!tony


    No, everybody doesn't, some people do
    Yes everyone does. Whether its to people who smoke or those who play PE,etc everyone gets mocked/ teased.


    The others are sitting out in the gym in their uniforms, not participating either. She is doing something constructive out of it. I don't care about the difficult things you have done, it is obvious that this teacher is conducting themselves professionally.
    Most of the students would not ignore up the 'devil'.(devil=metaphor for a really strict person)

    Once again, you are assuming that the person in question does not do any outside activities. I for one, didn't do PE in sixth year when I could opt out of it, so I could go and do homework, in order to have time to go training in the evening. Some people like routine and going to school to learn, and much prefer to do their own exercise outside of school.
    And you are assuming they are.

    I don't believe so - not if there are that many students also sitting out of the class
    It is obvious that most students would not ignore a strict teacher
    Which you are saying the opposite

    You basically pointed out why people get bullied?
    Yes I did.Something wrong?

    Thats where teasing etc and constant knawing of self esteem can lead. I don't like the quotation marks around bullying either
    Yeah and walking on the road can lead to death. Their point is totally off the wall and useless.
    Also there were no quotation marks around bullying that I can see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Ok, everyone take a chill pill.

    There are points on both sides of the argument, but neither side is listening to the other at this stage ... everyone is just flailing around wildly and engaging in oneup(wo)manship. Enough!

    If that continues, I will lock the thread. If you wish to discuss the issues in a mature and courteous fashion, by all means do so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Johnny Giles


    jesus!tony wrote: »
    No, everybody doesn't, some people do
    Yes everyone does. Whether its to people who smoke or those who play PE,etc everyone gets mocked/ teased.

    The others are sitting out in the gym in their uniforms, not participating either. She is doing something constructive out of it. I don't care about the difficult things you have done, it is obvious that this teacher is conducting themselves professionally.
    Most of the students would not ignore up the 'devil'.(devil=metaphor for a really strict person)

    Once again, you are assuming that the person in question does not do any outside activities. I for one, didn't do PE in sixth year when I could opt out of it, so I could go and do homework, in order to have time to go training in the evening. Some people like routine and going to school to learn, and much prefer to do their own exercise outside of school.
    And you are assuming they are.

    I don't believe so - not if there are that many students also sitting out of the class
    It is obvious that most students would not ignore a strict teacher
    Which you are saying the opposite

    You basically pointed out why people get bullied?
    Yes I did.Something wrong?

    Thats where teasing etc and constant knawing of self esteem can lead. I don't like the quotation marks around bullying either
    Yeah and walking on the road can lead to death. Their point is totally off the wall and useless.
    Also there were no quotation marks around bullying that I can see.

    Why would you tease someone who smoke? They made a bad choice but why would someone bully them? Obviously your school is quite different to everyone elses!

    Tony take a chill pill would ya. Stop stirring the pot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭Lawliet


    jesus!tony wrote: »
    Oh I never saw where she said about: a large group, stealing, vandalising, injuring or sexually harassing. Could you point out where these are for me Lawliet in this topic thread? Or are they all assumptions so you could make your points look better?
    Why do you assume I'm talking about someone else? I experienced those things during PE. And I'm not the only one.
    For a lot of people PE is just a lesson in bullying and discrimination, and if someone doesn't want to take part in that then they should be allowed to make that decision without someone trying to belittle them for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭IHeartChemistry


    Look we all have different opinions, I get that but some of the comments on others peoples stuff is really just pushing the boundaries of verbal attacking like! PE can be fun if you enjoy sport, but if you don't then you should be allowed to say why you don't like PE without being attacked! Look man, I get where your coming from, but we all have our own different views and tbh I think this is all getting sorta silly now. I mean were all mature Leaving Cert students, we should really learn to act that way :D

    End of :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,007 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    there is 30 mins P.E a week in our place...it is ridiculous though...not enough time to change clothes, you can hardly play football in your uniform like


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