Tuna Causes Alzheimers?

Cheeky_gal

I heard today that the mercury content in tuna is very high and that I'm eating far too much of it? I have two tins a day. I'm really nervous now and pretty disappointed cuz It's something which I thoroughly enjoy having

Is this true? Just googled it there and it said tinned tuna can cause cancer and alzheimers due to the mercury content

Mods please don't delete this, many body builders eat huge amounts of tinned tuna so I think this is the most appropriate forum to have it in

--SmItHy--

i believe anything can give you cancer these days:p i think the john west tuna has alow mercury count but i'm not 100 percent sure on that!.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Mercury I can handle.

But kryptonite would be the death of me!.



:P

Ingenuist

yep loads of merc in tinned tuna, just go to lidl n buy 20 fillets of pollack for 3euro:D

BraziliaNZ

i eat tinned tuna/mackerel all the time. Everything gives you cancer these days, you gotta go somehow.

d'Oracle

Cheeky_gal wrote: »

I heard today that the mercury content in tuna is very high and that I'm eating far too much of it? I have two tins a day. I'm really nervous now and pretty disappointed cuz It's something which I thoroughly enjoy having

Is this true? Just googled it there and it said tinned tuna can cause cancer and alzheimers due to the mercury content

Mods please don't delete this, many body builders eat huge amounts of tinned tuna so I think this is the most appropriate forum to have it in

I recently read a study which said that while the mercury content in tuna is quite high, its nowhere near high enough to risk heavy metal poisoning.

More importantly, there are three hypotheses on what causes Alzheimers.

None of these hypotheses make any reference to heavy metal poisoning.
That is to say, there is absolutley no scientific suggestion that alzheimers is in anyway related to Mercury consumption.

There is a reason the University of Google does not award Degrees.

aranrn

I read recently that Alzheimers is more likely caused by a mixture of alcoholism and depression and let's face it they are both real possibilities when you're old and your big muscles turn to flab.

d'Oracle

aranrn wrote: »

I read recently that Alzheimers is more likely caused by a mixture of alcoholism and depression and let's face it they are both real possibilities when you're old and your big muscles turn to flab.

Except a great deal of people who are not alcoholics or Depressed get Alzheimers.

Where did you read this?

jeawan

d'Oracle wrote: »

Except a great deal of people who are not alcoholics or Depressed get Alzheimers.

Where did you read this?

what you said , my granny had nether and still got it tbh no one know what causes Alzheimer's

someoneok

Yes tuna and other fish do contain mercury but ask yourselves why. Are we not polluting the planet? Most suburbanites don't realise these things because they are robots for a corporation and are not subjected to the reality of the planet we live in. One aquantance said something the other day which was funny but didn't surprise me at all. They thought that meat came from the shop and didn't realise they were eating an organic life form. Yes tuna has mercury but there are other ways these toxin get into our bodies and its all environmentally preventable. But environmentalist wont do anything about it. Most environmentalist groups are put in place by big corps to hide real enviromental problems such as this one and science helps it by putting out some talking heads to lie to the people about health issues and no links to alzheimers. There are many health care pro's out there trying to tell the truth but in the days where money rules the truth has to be found in places where you have to dig deep. Any talking heads or medical pro's put out there with big financial backing which if you are thinking logically about and it raises an air of doubt, I suggest you dig as the corporations love to bury this info as it dont go well on the sales end of things and that of course in this pathetic world we live in is the bottom line.

kumate_champ07

aranrn wrote: »

I read recently that Alzheimers is more likely caused by a mixture of alcoholism and depression and let's face it they are both real possibilities when you're old and your big muscles turn to flab.

sounds like what you read was bullsh1t

jaggiebunnet

someoneok wrote: »

Yes tuna and other fish do contain mercury but ask yourselves why. Are we not polluting the planet? Most suburbanites don't realise these things because they are robots for a corporation and are not subjected to the reality of the planet we live in. One aquantance said something the other day which was funny but didn't surprise me at all. They thought that meat came from the shop and didn't realise they were eating an organic life form. Yes tuna has mercury but there are other ways these toxin get into our bodies and its all environmentally preventable. But environmentalist wont do anything about it. Most environmentalist groups are put in place by big corps to hide real enviromental problems such as this one and science helps it by putting out some talking heads to lie to the people about health issues and no links to alzheimers. There are many health care pro's out there trying to tell the truth but in the days where money rules the truth has to be found in places where you have to dig deep. Any talking heads or medical pro's put out there with big financial backing which if you are thinking logically about and it raises an air of doubt, I suggest you dig as the corporations love to bury this info as it dont go well on the sales end of things and that of course in this pathetic world we live in is the bottom line.

bitter much?

An Citeog

someoneok wrote: »

Yes tuna and other fish do contain mercury but ask yourselves why. Are we not polluting the planet? Most suburbanites don't realise these things because they are robots for a corporation and are not subjected to the reality of the planet we live in. One aquantance said something the other day which was funny but didn't surprise me at all. They thought that meat came from the shop and didn't realise they were eating an organic life form. Yes tuna has mercury but there are other ways these toxin get into our bodies and its all environmentally preventable. But environmentalist wont do anything about it. Most environmentalist groups are put in place by big corps to hide real enviromental problems such as this one and science helps it by putting out some talking heads to lie to the people about health issues and no links to alzheimers. There are many health care pro's out there trying to tell the truth but in the days where money rules the truth has to be found in places where you have to dig deep. Any talking heads or medical pro's put out there with big financial backing which if you are thinking logically about and it raises an air of doubt, I suggest you dig as the corporations love to bury this info as it dont go well on the sales end of things and that of course in this pathetic world we live in is the bottom line.

You'll definitely fit in here!

Canis Lupus

I'm more worried about us eating the tasty things into extinction rather than the effects of the mercury in them. I love fish but the flesh eating carnivore that I am is starting to have guilty feelings about the way humans are hoovering fish out of the sea with seeming little regard for the future.

/OT

BraziliaNZ

yeah it does suck. I've kind of given up tuna because of this. Cycling mackerel now for a while!

Cheeky_gal

someoneok wrote: »

Yes tuna and other fish do contain mercury but ask yourselves why. Are we not polluting the planet? Most suburbanites don't realise these things because they are robots for a corporation and are not subjected to the reality of the planet we live in. One aquantance said something the other day which was funny but didn't surprise me at all. They thought that meat came from the shop and didn't realise they were eating an organic life form. Yes tuna has mercury but there are other ways these toxin get into our bodies and its all environmentally preventable. But environmentalist wont do anything about it. Most environmentalist groups are put in place by big corps to hide real enviromental problems such as this one and science helps it by putting out some talking heads to lie to the people about health issues and no links to alzheimers. There are many health care pro's out there trying to tell the truth but in the days where money rules the truth has to be found in places where you have to dig deep. Any talking heads or medical pro's put out there with big financial backing which if you are thinking logically about and it raises an air of doubt, I suggest you dig as the corporations love to bury this info as it dont go well on the sales end of things and that of course in this pathetic world we live in is the bottom line.

Honest to God I have read this twice and still have no idea what on earth you are even talking about

All I want to know is, is eating tuna every day very bad for me and will it more than likely give me alzheimers in the future cuz if so I am going to clear all tins of tuna from my house, would dread the thought of having alzheimers

Hanley

So far in the last 2 days I've been told diet coke causes cancer and protein shakes are bad for me.

Zippitydoo

Squats give you cancer too

papajimsmooth

Tuna wont cause Alzheimer's as it is a genetic disease. The exact cause of Alzheimer's is unknown, but of the possible explanations going none involve mercury poisoning. Tuna should be limited if your pregnant as you can harm the fetus's brain development. There is a few articles about tuna and mercury online here is a short one.Linky

amacachi

g'em or anyone else with access to Science Journals, please dig up something showing that tuna reduces the chances of developing Alzheimers, there has to be one out there somewhere. :pac:

papajimsmooth

amacachi wrote: »

g'em or anyone else with access to Science Journals, please dig up something showing that tuna reduces the chances of developing Alzheimers, there has to be one out there somewhere. :pac:

Here's one http://archneur.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/60/7/940

amacachi

Now we just need another one showing that it does indeed raise the risk. :P

Cheeky_gal

That's great guys cheers

More tuna the merrier so

arybvtcw0eolkf

I had tuna for lunch and dinner today.














Or at least I think I did

Zippitydoo

I think just to be careful, I wouldn't go crazy on the stuff. There definitely is mercury in tuna which is not good for us if it builds up to too high a level, whatever the effects are. I try to keep it to 1 tin a day personally.

kumate_champ07

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I'm more worried about us eating the tasty things into extinction rather than the effects of the mercury in them. I love fish but the flesh eating carnivore that I am is starting to have guilty feelings about the way humans are hoovering fish out of the sea with seeming little regard for the future.

/OT

Bluefin Tuna is almost extinct and its prob too late to save them. The japanese government has reduced the yearly quota but unless they ban* it all together for stocks to rise again theyll be gone in the next few years. the price is just too tempting to stop them being illegaly caught anyway, you can make a few thousand dollars on 1 fish!

They recently started giving children free whale meat for school dinners, everyday

d'Oracle

Cheeky_gal wrote: »

That's great guys cheers

More tuna the merrier so

OR, or, you could get our protein from a range of sources, white fish Mackerel, sardines, kippers (AWESOME) etc.

Or other meat, if you are not one of those vegetarians who think fish have no feelings.

g'em

amacachi wrote: »

g'em or anyone else with access to Science Journals, please dig up something showing that tuna reduces the chances of developing Alzheimers, there has to be one out there somewhere. :pac:

Ah jeez. This thread gives me a sad

Higher mercury concentrations have been found in brain regions and blood of some patients with Alzheimer's disease. However, it has not been proved that the presence of Mercury is a risk factor for Alzheimer's. As mentioned in that article there are many other co-factors which may play a part: other metals, inflammations, dietetic factors, vitamin deficiency, oxidative distress, and metabolic impairments.

To date, that I can see, there has been no study that links the mercury found in tuna with any neurological conditions. The benefits from eating oily fish greatly outweigh the potential benefits. (See the link provided by papajimsmooth)

Canis Lupus

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

Bluefin Tuna is almost extinct and its prob too late to save them. The japanese government has reduced the yearly quota but unless they bad it all together for stocks to rise again theyll be gone in the next few years. the price is just too tempting to stop them being illegaly caught anyway, you can make a few thousand dollars on 1 fish!

They recently started giving children free whale meat for school dinners, everyday

Twas on a program the other day showing a restaurant offering a bluefin tuna dish with an asterix which at the bottom stated the bluefin was an endangered species and please consider trying another dish??!!. Nevermind the horrendously wasteful and damaging way we fish our waters. On a slightly even more off topic note it makes me chuckle when I come accross vegetarians who don't eat meat on moral grounds but have no problems eating fish into extinction...

I really REALLY like tuna and cod etc but I've stopped eating them. With apparently some scientists quoting 2050ish (in my lifetime) as a time when our seas will be dead I don't want to be a part of that just for the sake of a bit of protein that I can get from loads of other sources.

fatal

Im studying Alzheimers in college right now and,because so little is known about the disease(as with all neuroligical disorders),so many probable risk/susceptibility factors have been "identified".Current research points towards various inherited mutations in the APP,beta- and gamma- secretase protease encoding genes (which consequently increasing the levels of amyloid beta 42 relative to other forms of the same protein) as being the underlying cause of the majority of Alzheimers cases.
What that means is that Tuna (or any of the other identified "risks") alone won't cause Alzheimers,but that in combination with the gene defects associated with the disease may increase the risk of developing the disease

g'em

Right now in the room next to me there's a board room packed with some of the countries' best researchers on aging and its associated neurological disorders. I'm soooo tempted to go in there and say "So, alzhemier's and tuna, what's the craic lads??"

Khannie

g'em wrote: »

Right now in the room next to me there's a board room packed with some of the countries' best researchers on aging and its associated neurological disorders. I'm soooo tempted to go in there and say "So, alzhemier's and tuna, what's the craic lads??"

I lol'd

Danye

Khannie wrote: »

I lol'd

Me too!

d'Oracle

fatal wrote: »

What that means is that Tuna (or any of the other identified "risks") alone won't cause Alzheimers,but that in combination with the gene defects associated with the disease may increase the risk of developing the disease

This is my problem with medical research.
May is the same as may not in these cases.
The result being that when you say may you are leaving it out there as a source for concern. We see this time and time again in advertisement. The result being that people think Eggs will give them heart disease.

I read a long article recently about the vaccination nonsense going on in the states. You have clueless morons like Jenny McCarthy using non-science (not pseudo-science, literally air picking) to claim that Autism is caused by vaccination. (Incidentally, no less that 12 studies have ruled this out.) These people plant the seeds of fear and nonsense using half arsed quotations from reports which say something different and people listen. I mean if Jim Carey and Jenny McCarthy say it on Oprah, it has to be true, right? The hell with scientists.

The bottom line IMO is that using soft logic like may is killing scientific credibility. If there is no proven link, there is no link, untill proven otherwise. If an unconcealed study is working on a link, there is still no link. After all, If I had the sponds, I could commission a study into relating Water consumption to CJD.

No offence or anything Fatal, just had to get that off my chest.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Danye wrote: »

Me too!

And me, then I forgot what I was laughing about

fatal

d'Oracle wrote: »

This is my problem with medical research.
May is the same as may not in these cases.
The result being that when you say may you are leaving it out there as a source for concern. We see this time and time again in advertisement. The result being that people think Eggs will give them heart disease.

I read a long article recently about the vaccination nonsense going on in the states. You have clueless morons like Jenny McCarthy using non-science (not pseudo-science, literally air picking) to claim that Autism is caused by vaccination. (Incidentally, no less that 12 studies have ruled this out.) These people plant the seeds of fear and nonsense using half arsed quotations from reports which say something different and people listen. I mean if Jim Carey and Jenny McCarthy say it on Oprah, it has to be true, right? The hell with scientists.

The bottom line IMO is that using soft logic like may is killing scientific credibility. If there is no proven link, there is no link, untill proven otherwise. If an unconcealed study is working on a link, there is still no link. After all, If I had the sponds, I could commission a study into relating Water consumption to CJD.

No offence or anything Fatal, just had to get that off my chest.

I think the term is the very suitable for something like Alzheimers. When you look at alot of neurodegenerative diseases, quite frankly very little is known about them, and therefore it is very hard to accept/dismiss any theory, no matter how stupid it may sound, until the exact progression of the disease is known, which brings us back to how little is known about such diseases.How can we outright refuse/accept any link to a disease whose mechanism is very poorly understood. For example, there is "evidence" out there showing increased levels of mercury in Alzheimers patients and,coversely,there is further "evidence" showing no mercury level increase in patients.

In your example of an egg giving people heart disease, I think that is just an example of being selective about what information is relayed to the public.An egg has potential to give someone who is already mobidly obese a heart attack,but not necessarily to your average Joe.In that case,yes, an egg may(or may not) have the potential to give you a heart attack,depending on how you interpret the advertisement of course

d'Oracle

I guess I guess my point is that most people don't think scientifically about stuff, so May means Does to many people.

I don't think the mercury thing should be in the public domain, because untill some proper link or model of the progression of the disease is made, its only reductive Logic.

i.e. there is mercury in this alzheimers brain, there for mercury has effected it. But its just as possible that this is entirely coincidental.

MrPain

Well the other day my biochemistry lecturer, who does research on protein folding errors such as Alzheimers, said noone knows its cause and if they claim they do they are BSing.
So I'm going to continue to eat my tuna.