Root Canal

PapaYankeeGirl

georgieporgy wrote: »

PapaYankee, I think you said on another recent tread that you had a root canal and a couple fillings done for approx £90. Would this be the root canal that was included in that price? I estimate the fee allotted to the root canal would therefore have been about £30. That's cheap even for 'the North'.
My guess is you didn't actually have a root canal done.

Oh beleive me I had it done!!!!

Fillings are only about £13 with my dentist

ballsymchugh

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

Oh beleive me I had it done!!!!

Fillings are only about £13 with my dentist

norn iron and scotland are still fee per item on the NHS. that price sounds about right for that.

georgieporgy

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

Wow sounds very dear. I had a root canal done about 2 months back plus 3 fillings and It was £95.

allow me to correct my last post. you said it on this thread. The figures are slightly different than I quoted. unless you meant you paid £95 for the root canal? I am not familiar with NHS fees and it's possible that 95 is the patient's portion of a root canal on the NHS ??:)

georgieporgy

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

Oh beleive me I had it done!!!!

Fillings are only about £13 with my dentist

Ah I see now!

PapaYankeeGirl

My dentist is an NHS dentist, though I do still have to pay.

I definately had the RCT done. It plus its 'big filling' and 2 or 3 other fillings was £95 pounds.

She gave me a BOGOF deal one day. 2 fillings for the price of one!! Lucky me!!

PapaYankeeGirl

Ps- had to go private for an extraction- £100!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

ballsymchugh

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

Ps- had to go private for an extraction- £100!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

My dentist is an NHS dentist, though I do still have to pay.

I definately had the RCT done. It plus its 'big filling' and 2 or 3 other fillings was £95 pounds.

She gave me a BOGOF deal one day. 2 fillings for the price of one!! Lucky me!!

i'd love to see how that's explained! NHS can be pretty sticky about mixing private and NHS work, although it's pretty much the norm when it comes to labwork, but extractions?? how much was the BOGOF deal?? given that the most expensive filling on the NHS was 16squid before the new contract came in...
as for the root canal, a friend of mine who's just finished specialising in endo was telling me about the quality of the root fillings that came his way from NHS practices. the main point of NHS endo is to remove pain and prolong the lifetime of the tooth by a few years, i've been to a few talks where this was discussed as being the norm. it's simple economics when you look at it. if you go to a specialist, you're pretty much guaranteed to have it for life.

PapaYankeeGirl

ballsymchugh wrote: »

i'd love to see how that's explained! NHS can be pretty sticky about mixing private and NHS work, although it's pretty much the norm when it comes to labwork, but extractions?? how much was the BOGOF deal?? given that the most expensive filling on the NHS was 16squid before the new contract came in...
as for the root canal, a friend of mine who's just finished specialising in endo was telling me about the quality of the root fillings that came his way from NHS practices. the main point of NHS endo is to remove pain and prolong the lifetime of the tooth by a few years, i've been to a few talks where this was discussed as being the norm. it's simple economics when you look at it. if you go to a specialist, you're pretty much guaranteed to have it for life.

I sorta lost you on the last bit there. Not sure what you are saying.

The BOGOF, she only used a wee bit of filling for a second tooth after doing another, so she just didnt charge for it. It was like £14 or round that.

PapaYankeeGirl

ballsymchugh wrote: »

i'd love to see how that's explained! NHS can be pretty sticky about mixing private and NHS work, although it's pretty much the norm when it comes to labwork, but extractions?? how much was the BOGOF deal?? given that the most expensive filling on the NHS was 16squid before the new contract came in...
as for the root canal, a friend of mine who's just finished specialising in endo was telling me about the quality of the root fillings that came his way from NHS practices. the main point of NHS endo is to remove pain and prolong the lifetime of the tooth by a few years, i've been to a few talks where this was discussed as being the norm. it's simple economics when you look at it. if you go to a specialist, you're pretty much guaranteed to have it for life.

I wanted sedation, so had to go private.

ballsymchugh

sedation can be done on the NHS too. what i meant in the last post was that when it comes to the NHS, sometimes it's better to go independent/private. this includes root fillings and anything involving labwork. routine fillings and extractions should be grand though. the end result is usually the same.

georgieporgy

ballsymc, I suppose it's only us dentists who know that NHS work is generally a load of crap. It's true that the odd simple small filling will be ok, and an extraction , like suicide, does have a definite measurable quality.

This is not to pass judgement on the honourable NHS dentist. I was one once. It's just that there is no free lunch. A person may be lucky and happen on a real zealous dentist who is doing charity work for a brief period in his/her life whilst trying to find hiself.

The best value for money I ever got was my first dentist's bill (not nhs). I was so impressed that I decided to become a dentist. 40 years later I have all his original fillings in my mouth plus 2 more new ones. I have all my teeth, never had a toothache. He is dead but I remember him often with fondness.

ballsymchugh

georgie i totally agree. i was an NHS dentist up until 6 months ago. officially i still am!!
i remember reading dentistry magazine once when they were doing a few things on endo, and how things had changed in the past few years. i thought the best part was where a seemingly young lad had written a letter wondering why the series was aimed at NHS dentists when clearly following a private/specialist regimen. his killer line was something like 'by the time the author has got the rubber dam fitted, he's made as much as the NHS would pay one of us for completing the endo, filling and crown.'

res ipsa

NHS dentists are well paid, I earned more as an NHS dentist in 2002 than as a referral endodontist in the republic in 2009.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/5972474/Nearly-400-NHS-dentists-earn-more-than-300000.html

ballsymchugh

res ipsa wrote: »

NHS dentists are well paid, I earned more as an NHS dentist in 2002 than as a referral endodontist in the republic in 2009.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/5972474/Nearly-400-NHS-dentists-earn-more-than-300000.html

maybe true, but when dealing strictly with endo, you would wonder what's the point in doing a root filling for £70 as it was about 2002 when an endodontist is (deservedly) charging about £500. i've had a buddy of mine on the phone dying for referrals so i don't envy your position a bit. i'd be extremely annoyed if i spent the last 4 years working my ass off only to find the market is drying up after it all.
the article from the telegraph is misleading though, i'm pretty sure it didn't take into account that it's just gross payments, which haven't had practice costs taken out, and under the new contract, the payments are usually paid to the practice before being sorted with associates. not to mention if the dentists own more than one practice. south eastern dental is a chain owned be a guy a bit younger than me, but he's got at least 25 practices to his name. and given that he's still a largely-not-working-too-much) nhs dentist, he still is one.

PapaYankeeGirl

Im not going to dis my dentist, as she is a Doctor of the profession.

ballsymchugh

nobody's expecting you to, this just developed into a conversation between myself and georgie about how root fillings were done on the NHS. like i said earlier, there were people who gave talks about the rules and regulations that we needed to comply with and what they explained a good NHS root filling was far from that of the standard that would be expected of a specialist like res would do. i'm sure the statistics are there, comparing the 5 year success rate of specialist to private dentist to NHS dentist.
if anyone wants to dis someone, have a go at our receptionist who didn't call me yesterday to say that no one was in til 9.30, making me miss out on another hour of sleep. grrrrrrrrr.

PapaYankeeGirl

ballsymchugh wrote: »

nobody's expecting you to, this just developed into a conversation between myself and georgie about how root fillings were done on the NHS. like i said earlier, there were people who gave talks about the rules and regulations that we needed to comply with and what they explained a good NHS root filling was far from that of the standard that would be expected of a specialist like res would do. i'm sure the statistics are there, comparing the 5 year success rate of specialist to private dentist to NHS dentist.
if anyone wants to dis someone, have a go at our receptionist who didn't call me yesterday to say that no one was in til 9.30, making me miss out on another hour of sleep. grrrrrrrrr.

You just cant get the staff. :rolleyes:

Sure it gave you time to get caught up on running behind schedule!!!;):p:D

ballsymchugh

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

You just cant get the staff. :rolleyes:

Sure it gave you time to get caught up on running behind schedule!!!;):p:D

are you mad?? dental chairs can make perfect beds. any dentist who hasn't slept in the chair is telling lies.

PapaYankeeGirl

ballsymchugh wrote: »

are you mad?? dental chairs can make perfect beds. any dentist who hasn't slept in the chair is telling lies.

Have you ever seen My Family?? ( I know its a BBC programme)

Whippersnapper

I have to get a root canal treatment on a lower molar. My other option is to get an extraction. The root canal treatment will cost over €2,000.

What are the drawbacks to just getting a simple extraction and having a gap?

day dreamer

Hi there

2000 seems a lot for the root canal treatment. I think you are being quoted for the root canal treatment and a post and crown afterwards.

The average cost of this would be around 1600 to 2000. If possible you should retain your teeth, yes it could be extracted but hold on to your teeth if you can

Doop

So i've been procrastinating about going to the dentist for the last 8 months or so. I started a thread here almost a year ago about intense pain while flying! ... well i had a root canal on the supposed suspect. So off i go onto a plane (back over to Oz) bam theres the pain again... :mad:

It would appear my dentist at home did the wrong tooth. So im biteing the bullet and going again to the dentist, to try get a root canal on the next tooth forward .. still a molar 2 from the back up top. I do get sensitivity from cold drinks up here, and sometimes get a bit of pain in the tooth when i cough im pretty confident this is the problem tooth.

I'm like a little girl when it comes to the dentist... (actually thats prob not fair on little girls!!).
But I really want to get a proper job done on it. Should i go looking for an Endodontist or a regular dentist? I've been eyeing up a fancy place in the city which have Endodontists, or else a smaller local place in the area I live, who say they have a dentist who focus's on root canal therapy without using the word Endodontist.

I cant believe as per previous post that a root canal cost's as much as 2K.
The one I got done at home costme 500 euro from the dentist ive gone to all my life. I'm just so fed up im still dealing with this problem for a year or so, plus it took alot for me to get that first root canal.. (which in fairness was 100% painless... maybe cos it was healthy tooth !?)

Sorry this has turned into some kinda of rant / ramblings! grrr mumble muble teeth mumble!!

I guess I might ring the fancy place and see if they could give me an idea of price over phone... would a dentist do this ?

Lux23

I have this ringing in my gums and I had been to the dentist and he said I just have sensitivity and that I don't need a root canal but its constantly annoying me at the moment. Its not sore when I drink anything hot or cold but I am nervous about it, a friend of mine just lost a couple of teeth so maybe I am just been silly.