Who is getting a pay rise this year

Sofiztikated

Oh, here we go, about to decend into another public vs private sector brewhaha.

Oh, and no, no pay rise for me. Already been told that, possibly even to expect another cut. Yay me.

Proxy

Pay rise from promotion and bonus. Comes after a year-long pay freeze. And yeah, i'm pretty grateful for it, since I worked my damn ass off.

Le King

Pay rise. But that's due to a promotion. So maybe it doesn't count.

alwaysadub

No pay rise-got a pay cut,then put on a 3day week. They've even cancelled the christmas party. Probably be unemployed come jan.

Rabies

I got a 15% pay rise about a month ago.

YEAH!!!

Was doing ok-ish, now just that little better

but the pay rise came from a promotion

K-9

40% pay cut but that was over a year ago. I'll be glad to have a job in 6 months time.

Nightwish

Got a 10% pay cut already this year, and because I'm a public sector worker, I reckon another pay cut is on the cards after the budget.

Catari Jaguar

I'm a primary teacher... 7.5% pension levy and a further 2% health levy and did we get an income levy too? More to come in budget. I don't even look at my payslip anymore, the outgoing looks like a shopping list.

Shabbah

Pay cut this year already - public sector and am not earning anything near those Public Servants Vincent Browne seemed to interview....I wish!!! (he didn't come to my picket line and ask what I was earning though, actually, he didn't ask any one of thousands of my peers/colleagues who earn MUCH less than 30K per year - strange that?!...) I have no bonuses or extra allowances and I have to take unpaid leave this Christmas to mind my child whose Childcare facility is closed over Christmas which means no wages for the Christmas weeks which means a very very frugal Christmas.

We get 20 days annual leave per year (statutory minimum I think? Although, correct me if I am wrong) and unfortunately, due to circumstances beyond my control, illness etc, I had to use up my paid annual leave earlier in the year (hence my having to take unpaid leave now over xmas) We don't get a Christmas bonus. We do get one paid day off at Christmas (the day after St. Stephens day usually - if that makes me spoiled & over-privileged I really don't know what the world is coming to)

Personally, I am in debt as it is and I rely on family members to house me and my child. (can't afford rent or mortgage at the moment with childcare costs and the local authorities wouldn't house me as they believe I'm in a great position having a "permanent and pensionable job" )

I genuinely cannot afford a pay cut and it doesn't just make me angry, it makes me sad, emotional, anxious and frightened to think they might take more money from me and my child. At the moment, I would actually be better off reducing my hours (or not working at all?) and topping up my income with Social Welfare...but I am also scared to do that as I wouldn't be too sure that I'd ever get back full-time in the future if I wanted to secure a Mortgage. I also enjoy my work and have worked less hours in the past and got far less job satifaction at that time so if I can at all, I'd rather work full time for now.

There are many Civil and/or Public Servants in positions similar to mine. We don't get much of a voice though sadly

To use Vincent Brownes favourite word, the "reality" of it is, that there are thousands of lower paid Civil and Public Servants working hard to put food on the table and keep a roof over their family's heads that will be affected in an hugely unfair and inequitable way (again!!!) by these pay-cuts directed solely at Public Servants. Taxation, in a fair way, is "realistically" the only way out of this mess!

Did I just rant a bit? Sorry :rolleyes:

oppenheimer1

Well in theory, even if your pay was cut by less than 6% you would be better off today. So those whos pay has stayed the same have had a de-facto pay rise. Thats the evils of deflation.

However all that will change come the budget.

K-9

Shabbah wrote: »

To use Vincent Brownes favourite word, the "reality" of it is, that there are thousands of lower paid Civil and Public Servants working hard to put food on the table and keep a roof over their family's heads that will be affected in an hugely unfair and inequitable way (again!!!) by these pay-cuts directed solely at Public Servants. Taxation, in a fair way, is "realistically" the only way out of this mess!

Did I just rant a bit? Sorry :rolleyes:

Lower paid workers should look at the Bus and Rail Unions. They didn't strike because, why should they empathise with people on 60/70k up?

koura

kincsem wrote: »

I took early retirement three years ago on half pay. The company has since gone busto, and we now find that the pension fund was underfunded. When they sort it out at best I will get a 0% pay rise until I die, or possibly a 30% pension cut and 0% pay rises.

Perhaps I should march by myself around the city and see if anyone cares.

I'm not in the public service btw. :rolleyes:

I don't understand, when you take retirement the money is taken out of the pension fund and used to buy an annuity from an annuity provider.
This is what provides your pension.
The pay rises ususally match inflation up to max 5%.
Did you get pay rises in the last three years.

Shabbah

K-9 wrote: »

why should they empathise with people on 60/70k up?

If they decided not to strike merely because they didn't empathise with those on 60/70k and up, what about the likes of me, who earns less than 27K after over 5 years service, why would they show no solidarity with me and the many thousands like me who walked on picket lines today? Are the bus and rail workers also blinded by this media campaign into thinking all civil servants are overpaid, and all earn over 50K??? Is this how little our voice has become? You have to realise that those on 60/70K and up feel they too are being unfairly hit with these cuts as many (not all I admit) of their equals in the private sector continue to get bonuses and raises, their incomes are cut, in a hugely unjust manner.

I still believe, regardless of sector, regardless of income, the only fair way to save these billions is through taxation which should be proportionate according to income, regardless of what sector a person works in.

Cutting the pay of the lower paid civil and public sector workers is merely going to create more administration and other costs within the Departments of Social and Family Affairs (One Parent Family Payments, Family Income Supplement, etc), the HSE (Medical Cards, Community Welfare etc) and Local Authorities (Housing) so it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.....but what has this goverment ever done that has made sense? It's totally ridiculous.

oppenheimer1

Shabbah wrote: »

If they decided not to strike merely because they didn't empathise with those on 60/70k and up, what about the likes of me, who earns less than 27K after over 5 years service, why would they show no solidarity with me and the many thousands like me who walked on picket lines today? Are the bus and rail workers also blinded by this media campaign into thinking all civil servants are overpaid, and all earn over 50K??? Is this how little our voice has become? You have to realise that those on 60/70K and up feel they too are being unfairly hit with these cuts as many (not all I admit) of their equals in the private sector continue to get bonuses and raises, their incomes are cut, in a hugely unjust manner.

I still believe, regardless of sector, regardless of income, the only fair way to save these billions is through taxation which should be proportionate according to income, regardless of what sector a person works in.

Cutting the pay of the lower paid civil and public sector workers is merely going to create more administration and other costs within the Departments of Social and Family Affairs (One Parent Family Payments, Family Income Supplement, etc), the HSE (Medical Cards, Community Welfare etc) and Local Authorities (Housing) so it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.....but what has this goverment ever done that has made sense? It's totally ridiculous.

I'm sorry but are you for real? If your aspirations and lifestyle needs are greater than 27k after 5 years then you really need to look at changing careers, recession or no recession.

To say the pay cuts are unjust is simply not fair. The governments two largest expenses are pay and welfare. The deficit has to be addressed and the fairest way is to attack it from both sides, reduce spending and increase taxation. Compared to pay in other industrialised nations, ours is way off.

I'm all for sharing the burden, but some people must realise they are a greater burden than others.

Shabbah

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

I'm sorry but are you for real? If your aspirations and lifestyle needs are greater than 27k after 5 years then you really need to look at changing careers, recession or no recession.

My net weekly salary at the moment is €420 after "pension levies" etc (remember, our last "pay cut" was introduced as a levy which is taken from our gross income meaning our salaries LOOK far better than they are) are taken off so in reality that is about 23K a year I take home (not taking into account unpaid leave). Take the €6K childcare off that and it's down to 17K, just 4K per annum (or €75 per week) more than I would get on One Parent Family Payment + Fuel Allowance, for sitting on my arse at home (and I would also get a Medical Card and a house handed to me for 22eur per week, if I chose not to work, which would surely make up for the €75 less I would be "earning"?) There has to be something wrong there?

Before you suggest I stop working, I will continue to work full-time as long as it is possible, in order to teach my daughter a good work ethic, by way of example, and help her to grow up with an understanding that you get no reward out of life by being bone-idle.

What do you mean exactly by lifestyle needs? Are you trying to suggest I live beyond my means??? I invite you to visit my life for one day and then you can try and suggest anything of the sort!

When I rented my own place 3 years ago, (a small 2 bedroom flat for me and my child) I had €20 left per week of my net income after paying just childcare and rent alone each week. That €20 wouldn't even pay for nappies and baby formula nevermind help towards food or bills. So how could I possibly have "lifestyle" needs above and beyond what I should have?!?! I have 8 years experience within the Public Sector and frankly, I earned more money working in a supermarket when I was 17 than I do now (at 28) Yes, the conditions (hours, job security etc) may not have been as good as what I have now, a decade later....but the wages were definitely better and the work far less demanding.

Lastly, show me a government anywhere in the western world that don't have two large expenditures in "pay" and "welfare"!!! That's life. That's economics. It does not make it any fairer to target one specific group of people (when it suits them) to help get them out of a mess which was created by others!!

Shabbah

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Compared to pay in other industrialised nations, ours is way off.

What about comparing the cost of living in those same nations as you can bet your bottom dollar this country is more expensive to live in, and while your at it, you could also compare average pay in private sectors in those nations aswell because I think you'll see they are less also!

dumbyearbook

suitseir wrote: »

Just listening to Vincent Browne on TV interviewing Public Sector Workers on the picket line. He asked one young lady how much she is earning (nurse). She said about €2,700(take home) a month. As far as I could gather, she is single! Good on her. What is she on strike for!

Earlier on today i heard a fire service worker being interviewed (on radio). He told the reporter he is on €60k a year and cannot afford to take a pay cut! Dear God! What are these people like? My job was cut down to 2 days a week......I now get €80 a day and UB for the other three days! They should try live on that!:eek:

And guess what, I WON'T be getting a pay rise this year! In fact, my job is probably going after Christmas!

And what do you do for a living? Saved any lives lately , nurses are underpaid and there are'nt enough of them - most hospitals run nurses and junior doctors ragged and there are none being hired this class of civil servant along with teachers and the Gardai should be left alone, theres thousands wasting resources in pencil pushing roles take your grief out on them and leave the professionals that look after sick kids and old people aside.

gurramok

dumbyearbook wrote: »

And what do you do for a living? Saved any lives lately , nurses are underpaid and there are'nt enough of them - most hospitals run nurses and junior doctors ragged and there are none being hired this class of civil servant along with teachers and the Gardai should be left alone, theres thousands wasting resources in pencil pushing roles take your grief out on them and leave the professionals that look after sick kids and old people aside.

2,700 pm is NOT underpaid. Try 800 quid a mth to see what its like on the other side.

waffleman

private sector here. christmas bonus and salary increase in feb next year - neither will be what i usually get.

I know boo hoo for me eh? still when my pay is crap to begin with it's no great shakes... factor in a 30% pay cut last year due to the exchange rate and i'd nearly be better off on the dole - paid in sterling and all bills are in euros

saw vincent browne last night too - a nurse gets 2700 take home 2 years after qualifiying! holy sh!t I shoulda been a nurse!

Bandit12

Payrise in March this year and again in March 2010 Love it

GavRedKing

Pay rise in January, was meant to have a bonus for christmas but thats under review so I doubt that will be given out. But a rise is better then what some people are getting.

hooradiation

25% pay rise this year and (probable) Christmas bonus.

It's good to be me.

NothingMan

Pay freeze last year, probably again this year. But I am basically doing 3 peoples jobs now and I have basically saved the company 2 salaries by being so flexible so I would like to think i'd be rewarded for that but I doubt I will.

Only reason we're having a Xmas party is because our social club is paying for 90% of it this year.

But still not doing too badly, 26K a year is plenty to live on and have a comfortable lifestyle. Renting and driving and plenty of socialising. And that's 4 years in a job with a degree and another professional qualification. I find it hard to sympathise with someone on 27K, especially if they have no qualifications, who think they're being under paid.

Although I completely sympathise that it is a LOT tougher with a child and I hate to see anyone working their asses off and still struggling, but 27K is not underpaid unless you're in a job with a qualification or specific training.

shqipshume

Whats a pay rise

CrazyRabbit

Well...let me see.

• I've just brought in $125,000 worth of new business this month.
• I've reviewed and simplified many internal processes saving about $70,000 over the year (on paper anyway).
• The company I work for makes over 3 billion dollars per quarter.

Nope...not a chance in hell I'm getting a pay raise.

Captain Havoc

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Well...let me see.

• I've just brought in $125,000 worth of new business this month.
• I've reviewed and simplified many internal processes saving about $70,000 over the year (on paper anyway).
• The company I work for makes over 3 billion dollars per quarter.

Nope...not a chance in hell I'm getting a pay raise.

Went off the dole so yeah a bit of rise. My salary is still down by €9,000 p.a. though

Worked for one of those big business' before (Accor) and they always went on about how they were so profitable etc.... But any time you ask for a pay rise, business was down

Flex

Im in the private sector, no pay rise coming up, just happy to have a job and hope that Ill have one in the New Year as 6 people are being made redundant in my office at the end of next week.

And I suppose its relevant to the OP to mention my dad was put on week on-week off about 6 or 7 months ago reducing his income by nearly half and my brother (who's a qualified fitter engineer) lost his job at the place he was working for 6 years about 6 months ago but thankfully is getting a Christmas job as a night-packer for €9.50 an hour come this Monday.... Life is sweet in the private sector

granturismo

gurramok wrote: »

2,700 pm is NOT underpaid. Try 800 quid a mth to see what its like on the other side.

She said that overtime accounted for €1000 pm. Including overtime her total take home was €2700.

I think nurses have a 35 hour week, then thats €12 per hour after tax. Nurses at this level are not overpaid.

logic

Private sector, 40% pay cut, no bonus this year. No pension / vhi. Probably no job in January too.

oppenheimer1

Shabbah wrote: »

My net weekly salary at the moment is €420 after "pension levies" etc (remember, our last "pay cut" was introduced as a levy which is taken from our gross income meaning our salaries LOOK far better than they are) are taken off so in reality that is about 23K a year I take home (not taking into account unpaid leave). Take the €6K childcare off that and it's down to 17K, just 4K per annum (or €75 per week) more than I would get on One Parent Family Payment + Fuel Allowance, for sitting on my arse at home (and I would also get a Medical Card and a house handed to me for 22eur per week, if I chose not to work, which would surely make up for the €75 less I would be "earning"?) There has to be something wrong there?

Before you suggest I stop working, I will continue to work full-time as long as it is possible, in order to teach my daughter a good work ethic, by way of example, and help her to grow up with an understanding that you get no reward out of life by being bone-idle.

What do you mean exactly by lifestyle needs? Are you trying to suggest I live beyond my means??? I invite you to visit my life for one day and then you can try and suggest anything of the sort!

When I rented my own place 3 years ago, (a small 2 bedroom flat for me and my child) I had €20 left per week of my net income after paying just childcare and rent alone each week. That €20 wouldn't even pay for nappies and baby formula nevermind help towards food or bills. So how could I possibly have "lifestyle" needs above and beyond what I should have?!?! I have 8 years experience within the Public Sector and frankly, I earned more money working in a supermarket when I was 17 than I do now (at 28) Yes, the conditions (hours, job security etc) may not have been as good as what I have now, a decade later....but the wages were definitely better and the work far less demanding.

Lastly, show me a government anywhere in the western world that don't have two large expenditures in "pay" and "welfare"!!! That's life. That's economics. It does not make it any fairer to target one specific group of people (when it suits them) to help get them out of a mess which was created by others!!

Well if you're spending more than you are earning then you are living beyond your means. Is it our/the governments fault you didn't stress test your income?

I'm all in agreement about going after those that can pay to increase their contribution to the country, However taxing a relatively small number of people a large amount will NOT have the same return as taxing/cutting pay of a large number of less well off people. Rich people are more mobile in general, tax them excessively and they will leave.