MMA Lucan?

pablohoney87

Over the christmas ill be moving to lucan and have seen signs around superquinn advertising mma classes. The trainer is tony carrick. Has anyone trained with him or been to any of the classes?

Just lookin for a place to stop me from gettin rusty over the christmas break from college.

PADRAIC.M

haven't heard of him but we are just across the road- www.nextgenerationclondalkin.com

reggie10

I`m in Tonys mma class, the training is enjoyable and you can tell he knows his stuff. Your best bet is to give him a ring and talk to him directly.

PS at 10 euros a week for a two hour class its good value

cowzerp

MMA/UFC LUCAN FACEBOOK wrote:

Our Training Studio is Kitted Out For Maximum Safey & Comfort, Male & Female Changing Rooms, Fully Matted Floor, Our Programme will cover Fitness & Body tonning Training, Hand Pad workouts, Heavy Bag Workouts,Punching & Kicking Skills,Body Throwing & Takedowns Skills, Locking & Submission Skills, Street Self Defence, ETC,

COME WITHOUT FEAR AND TRAIN WITH US
Acting under the guidance of Tony Carrick has over 39 year experience in Martial Arts, for further information please contact me ,looking forward to hearing you all, all very welcome

Specialising in mixed martial arts, ufc fighting, & street self defence skills.

Robbed from there face book page, Never heard of Tony myself and dont know if he has any MMA experience but it says on the page MMA/UFC training thats usually a bit of a bad start!

Anybody know of his MMA experience?
would be interesting to know.

arybvtcw0eolkf

reggie10 wrote: »

I`m in Tonys mma class, the training is enjoyable and you can tell he knows his stuff. Your best bet is to give him a ring and talk to him directly.

PS at 10 euros a week for a two hour class its good value

How can you tell he know's his stuff?.

cowzerp

Aryan Lazy Cucumber wrote: »

How can you tell he know's his stuff?.

i was going to say that but did not want to come across as cheeky, no fear of you worrying about that..

Dyr

Tony Carrick taught ryoi shinto ryu jujutsu and genbukan ninjutsu/jujutsu as well that was a few years back though...

TeddyDude

I have trained with Tony for over 15 years, his knowledge of all styles of martial arts is second to none. The man knows his stuff, and has 39 years experience to back him up, the MMA is a new area for him but with all his previous experience I can garauntee he'll show you exactly what ya need to seriously get into MMA or UFC, whatever way ya wanna go. Im currently in his MMA classes at the moment and in the short space of time its already grown so much, and word is spreading fast. Not one person who has attended his class has left disappointed. If the man wasnt experienced then myself and his other students would have moved on a long time ago. but best thing to do would be give him a call, he has people down even observing classes until the make their minds up, its no problem. But like I said, nobody has left disappointed.

Raze_them_all

TeddyDude wrote: »

I have trained with Tony for over 15 years, his knowledge of all styles of martial arts is second to none. The man knows his stuff, and has 39 years experience to back him up, the MMA is a new area for him but with all his previous experience I can garauntee he'll show you exactly what ya need to seriously get into MMA or UFC, whatever way ya wanna go. Im currently in his MMA classes at the moment and in the short space of time its already grown so much, and word is spreading fast. Not one person who has attended his class has left disappointed. If the man wasnt experienced then myself and his other students would have moved on a long time ago. but best thing to do would be give him a call, he has people down even observing classes until the make their minds up, its no problem. But like I said, nobody has left disappointed.

MMA and ufc are the same thing. If you think otherwise his knowledge isn as good as you think.

TeddyDude

Actually, Irish MMA rules state that there are no head shots ie no punching, kicking, knees to the head. UFC this IS allowed, therefore they are different in Ireland, which is why he advertises both, because some students want to just learn the MMA, while some wanna go all out cage fighting

Raze_them_all

TeddyDude wrote: »

Actually, Irish MMA rules state that there are no head shots ie no punching, kicking, knees to the head. UFC this IS allowed, therefore they are different in Ireland, which is why he advertises both, because some students want to just learn the MMA, while some wanna go all out cage fighting

Really cos A good few of us here, Tim Murphy, Garry Morris, Paul Cowzer, Myslef, Mark leonard and so on have compete in fights with elbows and punches to the head grounded opponents never mind standing ones.

I think you should go have a talk with a the man. What you are naming is amatuer mma rules.

Irish mma rules are pretty much the same as the ufc with the exception of barring heel hooks.

TeddyDude

Sorry I meant as amateur, theres no head shots. and since its beginners classes obviouslly there wont be any head shots. But hes more than willing to teach if students wanna learn. At the end of the day, how can ya doubt something u have never seen? Seeing is believing so if anyone has any doubts about the mans ability Id strongly recommend coming down to watch a class

Furious-Dave

TeddyDude wrote: »

and since its beginners classes obviouslly there wont be any head shots

Obviously nothing! Every gym has beginners, yet none of them seem to have any problems with letting them give head shots. Whats more, beginners have a natural fear of being hit in the head, so by not drilling head shots they are not being allowed to get over that fear.

TeddyDude

Not every student has the intention of taking it to the next level of actually competing, like I said, if a student wants to go that far then thats what he'll teach them

Furious-Dave

TeddyDude wrote: »

Not every student has the intention of taking it to the next level of actually competing, like I said, if a student wants to go that far then thats what he'll teach them

And your coach can teach what ever he wants. But you said

TeddyDude wrote: »

since its beginners classes obviouslly there wont be any head shots

How is it obvious that there won't be head shots in a beginners class?
Also I don't get why you distinguish between MMA and UFC. Why not just say that your students can train for amateur and pro MMA?

Raze_them_all

Just checked the facebook page. He has people striking mits and bags with bare fists?? Seriously? That already shows he shouldn't be teaching the class, it he trying to **** up peoples hands and wrists?

TeddyDude

Its advertised as beginners classes, therefore its amateur, you have to understand its a brand new class, the lads arent gonna be lookin to go pro just yet, so theyre looking to learn the very basics. Now when things get moving it'll all change again and the more experience people will be targeted.

TeddyDude

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Just checked the facebook page. He has people striking mits and bags with bare fists?? Seriously? That already shows he shouldn't be teaching the class, it he trying to **** up peoples hands and wrists?

Feel free to come down and offer some tips then if you know everything. Some people just take any chance to knock what others do. Like i said before, u cant judge till ya witness for yourself

Raze_them_all

TeddyDude wrote: »

Feel free to come down and offer some tips then if you know everything. Some people just take any chance to knock what others do. Like i said before, u cant judge till ya witness for yourself

I have witnessed it, He put it up on his website labelled training pics, clearly not looking after the members well being. You go to any mma club in the country, Everyone will have on wraps and gloves when hitting a bag and mitts. They are worn to protect your hand from damage.

TeddyDude

Raze_them_all wrote: »

I have witnessed it, He put it up on his website labelled training pics, clearly not looking after the members well being. You go to any mma club in the country, Everyone will have on wraps and gloves when hitting a bag and mitts. They are worn to protect your hand from damage.

And how long have you been teaching can I ask? this guys doing martial arts for 39 years, has schools here, the UK, Germany, Slovenia, Greece. Has taught in America, Japan, Canada, Ukraine, Belgium. Was in the Guinness book of records in 86 for coming 3rd in world championships. Now id like to see you find a more experienced trainer in the whole of Ireland. I think he has a clue of what hes doing regardless of your opinion.

Furious-Dave

TeddyDude wrote: »

And how long have you been teaching can I ask? this guys doing martial arts for 39 years, has schools here, the UK, Germany, Slovenia, Greece. Has taught in America, Japan, Canada, Ukraine, Belgium. Was in the Guinness book of records in 86 for coming 3rd in world championships. Now id like to see you find a more experienced trainer in the whole of Ireland. I think he has a clue of what hes doing regardless of your opinion.

How long has he been teaching MMA, or any combat sport for that matter?

Raze_them_all

TeddyDude wrote: »

And how long have you been teaching can I ask? this guys doing martial arts for 39 years, has schools here, the UK, Germany, Slovenia, Greece. Has taught in America, Japan, Canada, Ukraine, Belgium. Was in the Guinness book of records in 86 for coming 3rd in world championships. Now id like to see you find a more experienced trainer in the whole of Ireland. I think he has a clue of what hes doing regardless of your opinion.

We've the top pro mma gym running bout 2-2 and a half years now.
A better coach?? a decent mma gym has more than one.

Sbg, Kokoro.Rush, Point Blank all have more than one.

Like you said we've a difference of opinion. I personally wouldn't train there and will say the same to any of my friends in Lucan.

TeddyDude

Everything he has taught since hes done martial arts has been contact. MMA is a mixture of styes, hence the name mixed martial arts. the guy teaches shotokan, ryu shinto ryu ju jutsu, karate, judo, kempo, taekwondo, ryushin ju jutsu, brazilian ju jutsu, and many more. his other instructors have boxing, and kick boxing backgrounds. So basically hes teaching all these styles, which are a mix of martial arts. So hes doing martial arts 39 years, teaching at least 25 years, if not more.

TeddyDude

Like you said we've a difference of opinion. I personally wouldn't train there and will say the same to any of my friends in Lucan.[/QUOTE]

Well im sure we'll have lads competing against your lads soon enough

TeddyDude

At the end of the day the guy who started this was looking for a place in Lucan to train, theres only the one, so im just recommending he checks it out and makes his own mind up. Pointless us argueing over difference of our own opinions

Pride Fighter

Tony Carrick sounds like an experienced coach. But wether or not he is an experienced MMA coach is another matter. Clondalkin is not too far from Lucan, the second poster put something up. I heard of a small but excellent club in Maynooth. That would be more than likely the closest to Lucan.

dunkamania

TeddyDude wrote: »

Everything he has taught since hes done martial arts has been contact. MMA is a mixture of styes, hence the name mixed martial arts. the guy teaches shotokan, ryu shinto ryu ju jutsu, karate, judo, kempo, taekwondo, ryushin ju jutsu, brazilian ju jutsu, and many more. his other instructors have boxing, and kick boxing backgrounds. So basically hes teaching all these styles, which are a mix of martial arts. So hes doing martial arts 39 years, teaching at least 25 years, if not more.

Not wanting to jump in on the hate fest, but if hes teaching BJJ, than he has presumably been training for a number of years, and presumably has graded to at least a blue belt level?

cletus

just as a pedantic side note, UFC is not a style, ruleset or type of fighting, it is simply an organisation. ITs like saying he can teach you boxing or WBA.


Oh, an mma is not just a mix of different martial arts, it has developed into its own distinct ruleset, with certain ma's that are effective in the 3 fighting areas making up the bulk of the training

cowzerp

TeddyDude wrote: »

I have trained with Tony for over 15 years, his knowledge of all styles of martial arts is second to none. The man knows his stuff, and has 39 years experience to back him up, the MMA is a new area for him but with all his previous experience I can garauntee he'll show you exactly what ya need to seriously get into MMA or UFC, whatever way ya wanna go. Im currently in his MMA classes at the moment and in the short space of time its already grown so much, and word is spreading fast.

So your training 15 years with Tony so its fair to say your very experienced at MMA too, so id assume you'll be fighting soon on 1 of the upcoming shows that are held.

im pretty sure its the UFC thats popular and people think there doing UFC with the class and thats why its growing, as seen as this lad never competed in MMA i have to ask what was his motivation to set up an MMA class.

this might seem antagonistic but there is so many cowboys setting up MMA clubs that never trained or fought in it that the MMA community likes to know who is potentially going to ruin the good name that MMA in Ireland is building and the people on here care for the sport and the future of the sport.

In the early days this type of club was needed as there was no MMA coaches or clubs but they helped build MMA and now there is no need for martial arts coaches who seem to be jumping on the bandwagon as there is already numerous clubs with experienced MMA fighters and coaches.

reggie10 wrote: »

PS at 10 euros a week for a two hour class its good value

Why would you say 10 euro a week instead of 10 a class when thats all there is? this is'nt a jackie skellys operation is it

pablohoney87

I was lookin at the page myself a couple days ago. Thought it was a lil fishy to see a club with a beginner class thats only been goin on a few weeks and looks like its teachin leg locks already. Might give it a chance and check it out this week. If its not up to scratch will see if my most understanding girlfriend will trek me out to neilstown as dont drive. Thanks all.

cletus

@teddydude: seeing as you are the (perhaps unofficial) voice of the club on boards here, could you find out from Mr. Carrick what his credentials are with regard to the teaching of brazilian jiu jitsu. Ranking in this art is one of the most policed of all ma's, so verification of rank etc. would be very easy