Twilight new moon

Orlaith_

im a big fan of Stephanie Meyer's Twilight, New Moon, Eclipse and Breaking Dawn! i like the first film too! im only reading d books at the moment, im new to the whole thing and loving it all!! il love to be an extra in one of d movies! a girl can dream! but how cool wud that be. . .

Winters

Maybe next time you read a book you could take note of capital letters and spelling?

There are separate book and film forums, these may be more suited to your post. Or even msn.

Toto Wolfcastle

Moved from FAP to Films.

Sorry

Winters

Orlaith_ wrote: »

oh i do apologise, its not cool to like both the film n book! if you want to be an english teacher be my guest cos ur rubbish attitude doesn't bother me. .very sad actually i feel sorry for you

At no point did I make any claims against your 'coolness' based upon you showing your appreciation for both the film and the novel upon which it was based. Your immediate assumption that I am attacking your 'cool' or popularity level is unfounded and quite frankly immature. I would in no way have the expertise to become a full-time English teacher. I do however acknowledge the importance of full words and basic grammar.

As re. the books. Bella comes across as a very interesting character and someone as to which girls could look up to, however in subsequent books my opinion of her has drastically changed. The second film is currently in filming so in waht direction it takes in relation to the book shall be an interesting development.

roberta c

Looking forward to New Moon coming out, Hope they can make it into an engaging film thought it was perhaps the least active of the books, nothing happens till the very end really!

Valmont

*bleugh*

Mink

Oooooooh, really looking forward to New Moon. Was fairly disappointed with Twilight movie but then they'd a measly budget for what they wanted to get done. Some of the shots were just thrown together in the last 2 days with 10mins per shot cost they ran out of time and money. Explains a lot.

It's a slightly slower book at the beginning but I think the movie will exploit any possible action sequences, especially with the wolves, so as to hopefully pull in some testosterone-ish punters.

I really think it will turn out good, but at same time I'm trying not to get my hopes up.
Anyone been following the making of it on the various websites? Michael Sheen & Dakota Fanning are doing the Volturi interior scenes today!! Woo hoo

Driver 8

Oh, it was the budget's fault!

So the increase is going to pay for Pattinson's acting classes is it?

Mink

Driver 8 wrote: »

Oh, it was the budget's fault!

So the increase is going to pay for Pattinson's acting classes is it?

Not a fan then?
Yes I'll admit there were some seriously ropey moments but still looking forward to New Moon either way.

How anyone can call it a saga about vampires is beyond me. Vampires do not go out in the sun, they do not glisten like diamonds and above all they should be ferocious killing machines.

A real vampire sunlight scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoIgj_qK3oY

Pulling the Piss:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyYZdzo2yOY

Anyone looking for a real vampire story should check out the upcoming Guillermo Del Toro penned The Strain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-jVSGbQRIE

Galvasean

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Vampires do not go out in the sun,

In the novel Dracula can come out during the day, but is far less powerful.

Galvasean

Galvasean wrote: »

In the novel Dracula can come out during the day, but is far less powerful.

I know that but there's coming out during the day and then there's glistening like a teenage tranny.

Richard Dower

Mink wrote: »

Oooooooh, really looking forward to New Moon. Was fairly disappointed with Twilight movie but then they'd a measly budget for what they wanted to get done. Some of the shots were just thrown together in the last 2 days with 10mins per shot cost they ran out of time and money. Explains a lot.

It's a slightly slower book at the beginning but I think the movie will exploit any possible action sequences, especially with the wolves, so as to hopefully pull in some testosterone-ish punters.

I really think it will turn out good, but at same time I'm trying not to get my hopes up.
Anyone been following the making of it on the various websites? Michael Sheen & Dakota Fanning are doing the Volturi interior scenes today!! Woo hoo

WHAT??????? :eek: they had 30 million!!....that's a hell of alot of money, Cloverfield had that....look at what they accomplished!

Twilight is vastly overrated....i found the charcters boring and the story unoriginal.

*shadow*

Deleted User wrote: »

Vampires do not go out in the sun, they do not glisten like diamonds

Know a lot of vampires do you? Who says they dont glisten in the sun:pac:

Richard Dower wrote: »

Twilight is vastly overrated....i found the charcters boring and the story unoriginal.

The film was way overrated but the books were not, Every female to read those books has become addicted....they were amazing:rolleyes:

mach1982

Us guys can learn a a lot from the twilight books.

I agree that the first book is good, the second one was a slow burner, this was much the same for the third and the fourth was good but a bit WTF . I say the New moon movie will be good. I liked the movie( twilight) more than the book, too much filler in book.

Mink

Cloverfield had approx $7m less than Twilight, but an awful lot of it was CGI, green screen & created sets (some of them not great as I remember). Twilight had no green screen, minimal CGI & lots of outdoor shootings.
Having said all that, I don't know how Twilight cost $37m, maybe Catherine Hardwicke is just sh1te at budgeting?

Nevertheless... still seriously looking forward to New Moon

Orlaith_

yes i do agree, i am looking forward to new moon also cant wait,

*shadow*

*shadow* wrote: »

Know a lot of vampires do you? Who says they dont glisten in the sun:pac:

I've read more books on vampires than I care to remember. Looking at my DVD collection and I have over 100 films about vampires. I have no problem with someone wanting to expand on the vampire mythos but the Twilight saga is just so poorly written. I enjoyed the film and decided to buy the book only to get half way through it and put it to one side. It was badly written, lacking any original ideas and if the upcoming lawsuit is to be believed completely plagiarised.

mach1982 wrote: »

Us guys can learn a a lot from the twilight books.

I agree that the first book is good, the second one was a slow burner, this was much the same for the third and the fourth was good but a bit WTF . I say the New moon movie will be good. I liked the movie( twilight) more than the book, too much filler in book.

The books are terribel. Poorly written fluff aimed at 12 year old girls who have never read an actual proper novel in their life. Reading for pleasure is one of the most enjoyable experiences one can have but ploughing through the first Twilight book was a chore.

Mink

Darko you are the only person I've come across with the combination - liked the movie, hated the books. Most are the other way around.

I agree the books could have been far better written but jaysus they're not bad for a person's first novel & having been written in a few months, at nighttime having looked after 3 small kids all day. Despite the mistakes & lack of literary showmanship, I still absolutely loved them (& not in a gooey eyed 12-17yr old female sort of a way).

I would refer to them as brain candy, entertaining & a great yarn but ultimately unchallenging and won't make you "think".

The rumoured lawsuit on plagiarism was debunked several weeks ago.

laurashambles

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if the upcoming lawsuit is to be believed completely plagiarised.

That actually turned out to be a hoax: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Twilight+plagiarism+lawsuit+declared+Internet+hoax/1519649/story.html

Deleted User wrote: »

Poorly written fluff aimed at 12 year old girls who have never read an actual proper novel in their life.

This is true, I read the first three books when I was 17, after several years of reading almost nothing and I loved them in a guilty pleasure kind of way. I knew they weren't great literature, but I came across other fans online who were convinced it was pure poetry and Stephenie Meyer was the second coming of Shakespeare. Sadly, some of them were much older than 12. (That said, I also came across some awesome 12 year olds who were about 100 times cooler than I was at that age and got how ridiculous the whole thing was. )

I hated Edward though. I thought (and still think) he was about as creepy as they came. He watched Bella sleeping without her consent for months. He decided who she could and couldn't be friends with. He took the engine out of her car. He had his sister kidnap her in return for a Ferrari. It would have been fine if all this stuff had been portrayed as being the actions of a disturbed person, but Meyer made it out to be, like totally romantic. I'm kind of worried about the 7 year olds who read these books and grow up thinking it's okay for men to act like that. =/

I'm probably thinking about this too much.

Mink

laurashambles wrote: »

I knew they weren't great literature, but I came across other fans online who were convinced it was pure poetry and Stephenie Meyer was the second coming of Shakespeare. Sadly, some of them were much older than 12.

That is very sad

Mink

laurashambles wrote: »

I hated Edward though. I thought (and still think) he was about as creepy as they came. He watched Bella sleeping without her consent for months. He decided who she could and couldn't be friends with. He took the engine out of her car. He had his sister kidnap her in return for a Ferrari. It would have been fine if all this stuff had been portrayed as being the actions of a disturbed person, but Meyer made it out to be, like totally romantic. I'm kind of worried about the 7 year olds who read these books and grow up thinking it's okay for men to act like that. =/

I'm probably thinking about this too much.

Actually that's a good point, he was a bit of a prick sometimes. I take it you haven't read Midnight Sun - it's from his viewpoint & it's made far more apparent that he's a bit of a nutter.

Mink

Mink wrote: »

Darko you are the only person I've come across with the combination - liked the movie, hated the books. Most are the other way around.

I agree the books could have been far better written but jaysus they're not bad for a person's first novel & having been written in a few months, at nighttime having looked after 3 small kids all day. Despite the mistakes & lack of literary showmanship, I still absolutely loved them (& not in a gooey eyed 12-17yr old female sort of a way).

Defending her writing by s aying it was an okay attempt for a first novel by a single mom is a bit of a joke. Her writing is terrible. I couldn't believe it when I read it and saw that no one had bothered to correct her writing. I've seen more coherant writing from a 6 year old.

As Stephen King said "Stephenie Meyer can't write worth a darn. She's not very good."

laurashambles wrote: »

This is true, I read the first three books when I was 17, after several years of reading almost nothing and I loved them in a guilty pleasure kind of way. I knew they weren't great literature, but I came across other fans online who were convinced it was pure poetry and Stephenie Meyer was the second coming of Shakespeare. Sadly, some of them were much older than 12. (That said, I also came across some awesome 12 year olds who were about 100 times cooler than I was at that age and got how ridiculous the whole thing was. )

I hated Edward though. I thought (and still think) he was about as creepy as they came. He watched Bella sleeping without her consent for months. He decided who she could and couldn't be friends with. He took the engine out of her car. He had his sister kidnap her in return for a Ferrari. It would have been fine if all this stuff had been portrayed as being the actions of a disturbed person, but Meyer made it out to be, like totally romantic. I'm kind of worried about the 7 year olds who read these books and grow up thinking it's okay for men to act like that. =/

I'm probably thinking about this too much.

Edward has to be the creepiest character around, even in the film it's obvious that he's not all there. I seriously believed that he was mentally retarded when I was watching the film.

That said when I saw it in the cinema there was about a hundred 12 year old girls swooning at his every appearence.

Mink

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Defending her writing by s aying it was an okay attempt for a first novel by a single mom is a bit of a joke. Her writing is terrible. I couldn't believe it when I read it and saw that no one had bothered to correct her writing. I've seen more coherant writing from a 6 year old.

I completely disagree, I guess we can agree to disagree & leave it at that. I think she did a good job & subsequently it's paid off big time.

*shadow*

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The books are terribel. Poorly written fluff aimed at 12 year old girls who have never read an actual proper novel in their life. Reading for pleasure is one of the most enjoyable experiences one can have but ploughing through the first Twilight book was a chore.

What proof have you they never read an actual novel in their life? And for those that maybe had not, then surely we should be happy that books such as Twilight are encouraging young people to read.

The book was not designed to be an academic read and never did it at any point depict that it intended to be.

Clearly you didn’t enjoy the book but millions of other people did and so you should respect that, we are all entitled to our own opinion.
Unless you know a vampire personally then you can’t really judge its portrayal of them:)

Mink

Mink wrote: »

I completely disagree, I guess we can agree to disagree & leave it at that. I think she did a good job & subsequently it's paid off big time.

I agree that it's each to their own but her books are pretty dire. The last novel in the Twilight saga feautred on a number of worst of lists from last year and was freeted with generally negative reveiws.

*shadow* wrote: »

What proof have you they never read an actual novel in their life? And for those that maybe had not, then surely we should be happy that books such as Twilight are encouraging young people to read.

They are encouraging young people to read but if it's trash like Twiglight then perhaps that's not a good thing. The same thing was said about J. K. Rowling's books but at least they were somewhat competantly wrote.

*shadow* wrote: »

The book was not designed to be an academic read and never did it at any point depict that it intended to be.

That does'nt excuse her poor attempts at grammer and general atrocious writing.

*shadow* wrote: »

Clearly you didn’t enjoy the book but millions of other people did and so you should respect that, we are all entitled to our own opinion.

Millions of people supported Hitler, does that justify his actions?

*shadow* wrote: »

Unless you know a vampire personally then you can’t really judge its portrayal of them:)

I don't personally know any fictional creatures but I have been reading about vampires since I was 9 when I first read Dracula. In the 14 years since then I has read everything about vampires that I could get my hands on. In all the other depictions of them there is no mention of vampires glistening in the sun.

*shadow*

Deleted User wrote: »

They are encouraging young people to read but if it's trash like Twiglight then perhaps that's not a good thing. The same thing was said about J. K. Rowling's books but at least they were somewhat competantly wrote.

Its a young Teenage GIRLS ROMANTIC novel so most of the male population will just never get it. I personally dont think it is a bad thing that young people are reading it. Or maybe you think trashy tv programmes and underage drinking would be a ore suitable hobby!!

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't personally know any fictional creatures but I have been reading about vampires since I was 9 when I first read Dracula. In the 14 years since then I has read everything about vampires that I could get my hands on. In all the other depictions of them there is no mention of vampires glistening in the sun.

:pac:lol....you have a thing for vampire novels then! However you should remember that these are books aimed at the female teenage population, the last thing they want to read about before bed is some crazy Vampire going on a killing spree..unless of course there is romance involved.

As you mentioned they are fictional characters so there is nothing to say that they shouldnt glisten in the sun then....personally I quite like the glistening vampire thing :pac:

Mink

Deleted User wrote: »

Millions of people supported Hitler, does that justify his actions?

Ooh dramatic :rolleyes: We're talking about a book here, not a psychopathic dictator

Mink

Ok, can I have some feedback from people that actually like the whole saga?
What do you think about how New Moon is going to turn out? Also what do you reckon re David Slade directing Eclipse, particularly after he slated Twilight on his Twitter acct?

*shadow*

Mink wrote: »

Ok, can I have some feedback from people that actually like the whole saga?
What do you think about how New Moon is going to turn out?

Great I hope....they've made more money from the last film so they might be able to expand on the budget.

Mink wrote: »

Also what do you reckon re David Slade directing Eclipse, particularly after he slated Twilight on his Twitter acct?

That would be slightly worrying and I would hope that his personal opinions towards Twilight would not effect his judgement and directing skills in the making of Eclipse....time will tell

*shadow*

*shadow* wrote: »

Its a young Teenage GIRLS ROMANTIC novel so most of the male population will just never get it. I personally dont think it is a bad thing that young people are reading it. Or maybe you think trashy tv programmes and underage drinking would be a ore suitable hobby!!

I never said I had any problem with chtheildren reading just that they should be encouraged to read literature which isn't so hackyned. Even forgetting the poor attempt at english the motivations of some of the characters es[ecially Edward are highly suspicious and give many children a negative image of what romance is. FFS he stands over her bed watchign her sleep for months and it's okay because he loves her.

*shadow* wrote: »

:pac:lol....you have a thing for vampire novels then! However you should remember that these are books aimed at the female teenage population, the last thing they want to read about before bed is some crazy Vampire going on a killing spree..unless of course there is romance involved.

Why does it have to be about a vampire going on a killing spree. Lately I've been quite enjoying the 2am showing of Moonlight. It takes the age old vampire mythos and puts a nice spin on it.

*shadow* wrote: »

As you mentioned they are fictional characters so there is nothing to say that they shouldnt glisten in the sun then....personally I quite like the glistening vampire thing :pac:

There are somethings which you just don't do and turning elegent creatures such as vampires into cheap party tricks is one of those. While I'm not a fan of the Lestat novels due to the way they try and romanticise the mythos I do at least respect them for having vampire who engage in the age old ritchual of drinking human blood.

Mink wrote: »

Ooh dramatic :rolleyes: We're talking about a book here, not a psychopathic dictator

I'm assuming that your'e returning the sarcasm so evident in my statemnet.

Mink wrote: »

What do you think about how New Moon is going to turn out? Also what do you reckon re David Slade directing Eclipse, particularly after he slated Twilight on his Twitter acct?

Tbh if I was holding out for a decent film then Slade would be my choice. Say what you want about his justified trashing of Twilight but his 30 Days of Night is easily the best vampire film in years.

One of my housemates had the newest book in the saga left in the sitting room so last night i sat down and said I'd give it a chance. I got 245 pages into it before putting it down. There is so much filler that it's beyond a joke. It's as if the publisher got a first draft and just rushed it to publication. From the 245 pages I read you could get rid of at least 150 and lose nothing.

Somehow I get the feeling that all Meyers has is the Twilight saga and once it's finished I can see her disappearing from the world of literature.

Galvasean

*shadow* wrote: »

Unless you know a vampire personally then you can’t really judge its portrayal of them:)

Bad news

http://io9.com/5241252/physicists-prove-that-vampires-could-not-exist

Mink wrote: »

Ooh dramatic :rolleyes: We're talking about a book here, not a psychopathic dictator

I dunno, the two can be intertwined...

Darko's point should still stand despite the dramatic example. Just because a large number of people agree with/like something does not automatically make it right/good.

Mink

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Tbh if I was holding out for a decent film then Slade would be my choice. Say what you want about his justified trashing of Twilight but his 30 Days of Night is easily the best vampire film in years.

One of my housemates had the newest book in the saga left in the sitting room so last night i sat down and said I'd give it a chance. I got 245 pages into it before putting it down. There is so much filler that it's beyond a joke. It's as if the publisher got a first draft and just rushed it to publication. From the 245 pages I read you could get rid of at least 150 and lose nothing.

Somehow I get the feeling that all Meyers has is the Twilight saga and once it's finished I can see her disappearing from the world of literature.

Hmm, been meaning to check out 30 Days of Night for a while...

You should have finished Breaking Dawn, there's a whole section which is from Jacob's perspective and it's pretty good. And...iff you hate the books so much... why do you keep reading them?

I think she'll be around for a while a) The Host has been doing good, b) after all the shellacking she's been getting as an author, I'd say she'll up her game either way. We all gotta start somewhere

Mink

Mink wrote: »

Hmm, been meaning to check out 30 Days of Night for a while...

It's a proper vampire film, so much better than twilight.

Mink wrote: »

You should have finished Breaking Dawn, there's a whole section which is from Jacob's perspective and it's pretty good. And...iff you hate the books so much... why do you keep reading them?

I don't keep reading them, I tried reading the first one but gave up because it was so bad. I looked at the new one simply because people on here were harking on about them. It really was a piece of trash the new one. That her publisher let it be published unedited is a disgrace

Mink wrote: »

I think she'll be around for a while a) The Host has been doing good, b) after all the shellacking she's been getting as an author, I'd say she'll up her game either way. We all gotta start somewhere

From what I've read her writing did'nt improve between the original and the latest one so I seriously doubt she'll improve very much between now and her next novel.

Mink

Fairy snuff Darko

I'll be interested to see what you think of what Slade does with Eclipse. That's 1 1/2yrs away but I'd say someone, if not me, will have a thread going on it by then.

laurashambles

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That her publisher let it be published unedited is a disgrace

She actually does have an editor, but I think it's obvious they aren't doing their job. In Breaking Dawn she says Brazil is in the west of South America and it got into the finished book.

Deleted User wrote: »

From what I've read her writing did'nt improve between the original and the latest one so I seriously doubt she'll improve very much between now and her next novel.

To be fair, her other novel The Host was slightly better. The protagonist wasn't a self insert to the same degree and it was less indulgent. Still not great, but an improvement.

Mink

laurashambles wrote: »

In Breaking Dawn she says Brazil is in the west of South America and it got into the finished book.

That's really quite bad :eek:
Didn't twig that myself...hmm :rolleyes:
I reckon that one got absolutely shoved through as it was close to the movie release and they wanted to capitalize.

Richard Dower

Guys...you're pissing against the wind fighting points with hardcore girl fanboys...you know you can't win an argument with a girl!

Otis Driftwood

Twilight is a Vampire lite story for emo's.

James Howlett

To an extent I have to agree with the poster above.
I've seen many vampire movies over the years and was intrigued by trailers for "Twilight." Eventually I rented it out.

Was it fantastic?
No.

However was I entertained for 2 hours?
Absolutely.

Am I looking forward to the sequel?
Sure. Might even see it in the cinema.

As long as Twilight doesn't claim to be the greatest thing since sliced bread I think it should be left alone.

"30 Days of Night" however... that is some very good bread.

smileysurfer

Have read all 4 Twilight books now, and loved everyone of them, there so addictive!! Film wasnt as good as i expected but still love that too

MikeC101

Deleted User wrote: »

I know that but there's coming out during the day and then there's glistening like a teenage tranny.

I have vague memories of reading, perhaps in Dracula, something about vampires glowing/shining/looking odd in moonlight. I may be confusing this with their ability to turn into "moon dust" or something similar.

Or I may be losing what's left of my mind.

Have to say I despise the angst ridden romantic vampire types.

Regardless, it's time for a re-read of Dracula.

Omnomnom

There's actually an irish twilight forum for big fans of the series. http://twilightireland.forumotion.net/

Loved the books but some parts of the twilight movie were so bad they made me cringe. I can't wait to see some shirtless Taylor Lautner for New Moon though :rolleyes:

Omnomnom

laurashambles wrote: »

To be fair, her other novel The Host was slightly better. The protagonist wasn't a self insert to the same degree and it was less indulgent. Still not great, but an improvement.

The Host was so much better then Twilight! It wasn't as light to read as the Twilight series and the plot was fantastic!

Otis Driftwood

This made me LM F'n AO.Seriously,what is wrong with these people.

nedtheshed

nedtheshed wrote: »

This made me LM F'n AO.Seriously,what is wrong with these people.

I posted that and her fcuk Stephen King video awhile back,#. It's scary viewing when you realise that she is completely serious. She seems to have an orgasm while discussing Twilight nad lets be honest it's the only way she'll ever get one.

Otis Driftwood

This was made for people like her.

mudokon

Deleted User wrote: »

I know that but there's coming out during the day and then there's glistening like a teenage tranny.

I like the idea of a visible change in a vampires appearance if they go into the sun, but the glistening would not have been my choice. Guess it works for Twilights target audience though & the tone of the books.

Deleted User wrote: »

I've read more books on vampires than I care to remember. Looking at my DVD collection and I have over 100 films about vampires.

Are there any of the books/films that you have read that you would recommend? I have an idea for my own book & am looking for material for research purposes.

You could pm me to keep the thread on topic.

Dublindude69

I'm a big fan of everything Twilight. These books are like the bible to me. So much swooning.

Anna88

Dublindude69 wrote: »

I'm a big fan of everything Twilight. These books are like the bible to me. So much swooning.

Amen to that!!! A fellow Dubliner.....great minds think alike :P

Dublindude69

Dublindude69 wrote: »

I'm a big fan of everything Twilight. These books are like the bible to me. So much swooning.

That explains so, so much.