Assault Rifles list

Static M.e.

Hi Guys,

Just started playing, couple of questions on Assault Rifles.

Are some better than others or has you go down the list do they improve every single time?

Are there some you would just stay clear of all together?

Assault Rifles

•- M4A1
•- FAMAS
•- SCAR-H
•- TAR-21
•- FN FAL
•- M16A4
•- ACR
•- FN 2000
•- AK-47

Kev_ps3

Only one I like is a the SCAR-H. The AK47 is supposed to be good aswell..

ScissorPaperRock

Yeah Scar for me too

mise

Have played mostly with the SCAR, but last night started using the FAMAS and I love it. Its definitely helping me increase my k:d ratio.

Blazer

Used the Scar but now switching to the Tar ...faster firing rate with same damage..

leek

scar and m4 are good for free for alls and spraying like mad,, but i think the m16 is by far best rifle basically like a more powerful FAMAS 3 bullet bursts, great in team deathmatch if your trying to get killstreaks only on level 47 tho so havent got any of the rifles after that

TheDoc

Assault Rifles

•- M4A1
I'm convinced this is not an M4A1, looks like a Brret m56 to me. Seems to chamber the 7.62 round, due to the recoil and bullet penetration. A really easy rifle to use, and its just idiotproof. You should drop your targets pretty quickly, dead on or through walls.

•- FAMAS
Burst controlled rifle. Similar to CoD4MW m16. Easy to control due to literally no recoil, although you cant keep up a high rate of fire. Fantastic for long range engagement maps, but can be tricky on close quarters where you run into numerous targets.

•- SCAR-H
Great rifle. Has fantastic bullet pen due to its 7.62 chambered round. Has some heavy recoil, and burns through ammo very fast. Similar to the M4 although seems to be a little bit more pwoerful.

•- TAR-21
Commonly known as the Tavor. The Bulpup design chambers the 5.56 so penetration isnt as good as the Scar, but the control of the rate of fire is amazing. You can easily put down accurate fire at a high rate of fire. My personall favourite and you will easily start racking up the kills. With an Eotech its the most potent rifle I've found ingame.

•- FN FAL
Semi automatic rifle, symbolic to what our irish army used to use, although possibly in a fully automatic capacity. The rate of fire is slow obviously, but tremendously accurate and a new favourite of mine for long range maps. Combined with an optic and you have a very potent rifle. Recoil is very much non existant.

•- M16A4
Havnt unlocked this yet personally. However I'd imagine being an A4 it has full rail assembly and fully automatic capabilities. Should be decent for long range engagements, but I cant see its advantages over the scar or Tavor.

•- ACR
Previously known as the Magpul masada until Bushmaster bought the rights and renamed it to the Advanced Combat Rifle. Has fantastic rate of fire along with tight groupings at distance. The real steel can easily swop the lower receiver to use 5.56 or 7.62, although I imagine the game just uses the 5.56 going on the Pmags used in game ( noticed by the waffles in the mags).

Great rifle, will probably become my choice when I unlock it.

•- FN 2000
Another bullpup rifle more common in close quarter combat. Noticing the barell length I'd imagine in the game its somewhere similar to the Tavor, although the Tavor should be more accurate long distance. The FN2000 chambers the 5.56 so bulelt pen similar to the Tavor, but the rate of fire should be slightly higher.

•- AK-477.62 round gives it high bullet penetration, but withthe power comes in the increased recoil making it hard to control over long bursts.




I cant help notice the games main assault rifles seem to be based around the 7.62, making recoil alot harder, where as the original game was mostly 5.56 and recoil wasnt really a problem.


I'd say youll probably find the Tavor being the best rifle in the game. Its great accuracy, recoil control and rate of fire make it a winner in close quarters and long range engagements.

The Scar for me is a close second but its bullish recoil after the first few rounds make it sometimes un-wieldy, and it seems to chug on ammo.

mle1324

I've grown to like the FN FAL online but its the ACR Masada for me.
The M16A4 is **** imo.

a1149

M16 is burst fire, same as MW1. It's a bit more powerful than the Famas, bout it though.
And the F2000 personally I've come to hate. It's fires rapid, but does naff all damage and the recoil sends it all over the place.

ACR/M4/TAR are the best so far, AK47's just on the horizon, woo!

Dcully

I find the recoil like all COD games is non existant.
Yes the gun hops up and down but it hops back down to exactly where you were aiming for origionally, artificial recoil i like to call it
Play DOD source or DOD for proper recoil ie no dropping of your crosshair back to its origional starting target.

Gone Drinking

TAR-21 for me too, only problem being the long range accuracy isn't as good as the SCAR-H

cian1500ww

M4A1 for me, up close it's always a winner and for long range it's pretty accurate.

Kev_ps3

Unlocked the ACR today, great gun, not as powerful as the SCAR but has a bigger clip..

gino85

going through all the assault rifles atm to get the unlocks, on the 4th gun so far with noob tube and rds

SexyBuilder1888

m4a1 all the way for me

scar is quite good too

still havent got 3 of the assualt rifles tho

TheDoc

Dcully wrote: »

Play DOD source or DOD for proper recoil ie no dropping of your crosshair back to its origional starting target.

O you mean when I shoot I just drag my mouse down, and I can fire of a thompson , every round in centre mass.

The most unrealistic recoil ever. CoD makes an attempt.

A thompson machinegun fired the .45ACP, one of the biggest and most powerful rounds of its time for a handheld weapon, theres no ****ing way youd not have that thing flying all over the shop.

cantgetright

How do you get a prone kill?

mle1324

Just start using the TAR-21 known as the Tavor and wow what a gun,not too good at long distances but medium range hell yea:D

Varik

got the ak there and it may be that i was very aggressive and lucky but kill a load in a groups, it lacks accuracy but in the mid to short it's great

Dcully

O you mean when I shoot I just drag my mouse down

Well atleast you have to have some input to reduce some form of recoil unlike COD.

CoD makes an attempt.

How so?
All i see is the crosshair popping up and and back down to EXACTLY where you origionally were aiming.
The only attempt it makes is to mimic recoil.
Im not saying DODS is the most realistic, ill leave that to Red Orchestra , it was merely a comparison off the top of my head, FYI i wasnt speaking about the thompson or mp40, they have the lowest recoil in the game.
Think along the lines of the STG 44,BAR,Garand in DODS or DOD and compare to the weapons in MW2 or even better compare them to COD2s versions which have no recoil at all.
Atleast in the origional COD there was some attempt from IW to replicate recoil, since then all their oferings have had this artificial recoil.
Doesnt make it a bad game,they are great games i love them but MW2 does not have recoil at all imo.
Its just crosshair or ironsight popping up and back to to its origional starting position.

opinion guy

Almost exclusively been using M4A1 so far as I'm trying to fully complete all the challenges with it. After that I think I'll work on scar which i have used a bit and find to be more powerful. The M16a$ would be great except you don't have fully automatic option. I haven't unlocked the last 3 yet - i have picked some up thou and for me fn2000 seems like the best

Nuri Sahin

M16 and ACR are the way to go. Though rest of them aren't bad. Wish G3 was there!

Liam O

M16, like in MW1 is waay overpowered. Now they introduce the Famas which is also very overpowered. It really should take 2 bursts for a kill and not one as with all the fully automatic weapons you seem to need a fair few hits for a kill

Static M.e.

Unlocked the FAL last night, very accurate...I just need to get pull the trigger a little faster

TheDoc

cantgetright wrote: »

How do you get a prone kill?

noticed no one anwsered.

Hold the crouch button and you go prone, basically lying on your belly, seriously reduced recoil, but your very vunrable

Vegeta

TheDoc wrote: »

noticed no one anwsered.

Hold the crouch button and you go prone, basically lying on your belly, seriously reduced recoil, but your very vunrable

Which is funny because between, standing, kneeling and prone. Prone is the worst for managing recoil.

Burning Eclipse

Vegeta wrote: »

Which is funny because between, standing, kneeling and prone. Prone is the worst for managing recoil.

/Notes forums moderated...

orly??

In any case, I use the Scar-H and do so exclusively!! I'm only lv 44, so not unlocked the ACR or anything above it yet. I've picked up a few M16s... I don't mind the 3 round burst, because at the moment I'm playing Hardcore exclusively, so I might give that a shot...

Vegeta

Burning Eclipse wrote: »

/Notes forums moderated...

orly??

Don't get me wrong now, prone is the most accurate because it provides such a stable platform but while prone your body has very little movement options to react to and absorb the recoil.

In any case, I use the Scar-H and do so exclusively!! I'm only lv 44, so not unlocked the ACR or anything above it yet. I've picked up a few M16s... I don't mind the 3 round burst, because at the moment I'm playing Hardcore exclusively, so I might give that a shot...

I like the SCAR and the M16. In Hardcore the M16 is handy because you know the 3 round burst will definitely put anything down. I think it just suits my style of play better though. You are more of a runner and I think fully auto will always win out for you. I think I am biased anyway because I like it in CoD4 too

Love the FAL in Hardcore too, must take that for a run again soon

It also is another usable assault rifle to get the unlocks and XP for

TheDoc

In this game, and most fps games, prone position allows the best management of recoil.

I'm fully aware this does not transcend into real life, but this is a game

FutureGuy

I'm pretty new to COD despite briefly flirting with MW1.

I'm currently L. 27 and am using the FAMAS with either the (insert cool name) scope or thermal scope. Pew pew!!

Should I upgrade the Scar or should I wait to unlock an even better weapon before taking the time?

bugler

I'll bump this a bit as I want to talk about ARs

I'm pretty new to COD despite briefly flirting with MW1.

I'm currently L. 27 and am using the FAMAS with either the (insert cool name) scope or thermal scope. Pew pew!!

Should I upgrade the Scar or should I wait to unlock an even better weapon before taking the time?

I'm no expert but I think the SCAR-H is an excellent weapon and seems to be used by players of all levels and abilities, so I'd get working on it, it is a rifle I come back to again and again. Seems to eat ammo though!

I have seen a couple of people comment on the graph bars that list a weapons abilities and refer to them as inaccurate, is this so? I love the TAR but thought in my experience it was noticeable it didn't have the accuracy of the SCAR-H, and it let me down a couple of times in that respect.

minotour

Scar H is excellent when you get comfortable with it, learn to use a double tap and you can manage the ammo better, stick a silencer on it and enable Stopping power you are silent killing machine.

Blazer

minotour wrote: »

Scar H is excellent when you get comfortable with it, learn to use a double tap and you can manage the ammo better, stick a silencer on it and enable Stopping power you are silent killing machine.

better yet pick Scar-H with extended mags and scavenger...you can shoot all night if you want...spray and paint em

minotour

Berkut wrote: »

better yet pick Scar-H with extended mags and scavenger...you can shoot all night if you want...spray and paint em

With all the witches and dog rap1sts around these days extended mags is unnecessary.........unfortunatly. a DR got me last night from the bottom level of quarry while i was hangin out the top window of the high building. Ridiculous.

sinabhfuil

I love the SCAR. I only need about 35 more headshots with it and then i'll finally have completed all challenges on that gun. Then it'll be on to the ACR and the M4A1 to finish those.

Robby91

I'm fond of the ACR and F2000 - ACR for any levels with a bit of distance involved, and the F2000 for urban stuff. The recoil from the F2000 does get annoying, but a lot of headshots do come out of it

The fire rate more than makes up for the lack of damage per shot IMO - once you get close enough to get a good shot, that is

Praetor

Robby91 wrote: »

I'm fond of the ACR and F2000 - ACR for any levels with a bit of distance involved, and the F2000 for urban stuff. The recoil from the F2000 does get annoying, but a lot of headshots do come out of it

The fire rate more than makes up for the lack of damage per shot IMO - once you get close enough to get a good shot, that is

ACR is my favorite, I like the SCAR-H too, tried the F2000 but is not good for large maps. Trying to get used to the AK47, recoil is a bit annoying sometimes or maybe is just me.

Dcully

ACR and SCAR-H for full auto assault rifles but i prefer the Famas and M16.
Once you get good with them and be clever where you position yourself you will dominate the game.

shawpower

Dcully wrote: »

ACR and SCAR-H for full auto assault rifles but i prefer the Famas and M16.
Once you get good with them and be clever where you position yourself you will dominate the game.

That sounds suspiciously like camping... :eek::eek::eek:

citizen_p

m4a1 for my rush atack class....

with aa 12 as secondary

scar h somtimes but im starting to use the fal more..... aa 12 again as secondary....


and im bring in the acr after i unlock extended mgs on the m4.....damm fmj kills are hard

mise

Played mainly with the FAMAS till I unlocked the M16 with red dot.. definitely my favourite AR. Not as easy to use as some of the other rifles, but I it you do hit someone, they generally drop

shawpower

Berkut wrote: »

better yet pick Scar-H with extended mags and scavenger...you can shoot all night if you want...spray and paint em

You mention extended mags here. My understanding of penetration kills is that you have to basically shoot through walls/windows. If you are behind a window and kill someone by shooting through it, does it count towards your FMJ challenge, or does it have to be the victim who is behind the barrier? I'd assume that the first one is correct. I only thought of that, so I might focus on that technique to get the Extended mags. It's the only attachment I'm short of to finish the set I think...

BigDuffman

Have been playing with M16 for last few days on mid to long levels, majority of the time it owns after one burst if you line it up right! Great ol' riddler!

At slight disadvantage up close though compared to SCAR.

One thing that has been annoying me though is how imprecise the characterisitcs of the wpns. are.....a percentage system would make a lot more sense. As you really have to get in and squint "oh hang on the UMP is after the "M" in the "Damage" characteristic...I think"

bumpydog

TAR21 and ACR. Tried all the others but revert to those two, even for my Ninja class. Have over 1,000 kills with both of them. AK47 has too much recoil for my liking.

opinion guy

shawpower wrote: »

You mention extended mags here. My understanding of penetration kills is that you have to basically shoot through walls/windows. If you are behind a window and kill someone by shooting through it, does it count towards your FMJ challenge, or does it have to be the victim who is behind the barrier? I'd assume that the first one is correct. I only thought of that, so I might focus on that technique to get the Extended mags. It's the only attachment I'm short of to finish the set I think...

Both would count. So long as the bullets go throu a barrier then its a penetration kill regardless of where the barrier is. Its much easier to hit the other guy when he is behind the barrier thou. some maps are much better for penetration kills thou - Scrapyard in particular. Also easier if you have hearbeat sensor enabled as you can basically see thru walls then

Now trying to get 40 penetration kills with the sniper rifle.....thats hard!! (I want extended mags on M21 EBr cos then its as good as an assualt rifle for me )

Dcully

shawpower wrote: »

That sounds suspiciously like camping... :eek::eek::eek:

No it means dont get caught in close quarter fights where the akimbo shotguns can dominate.
Define camping by the way.
If im protecting a flag or bombsite am i deemed to be camping to you?
Camping is a term branded about by people that havent a clue what it actually means.

citizen_p

omfg wtf

since when could you hold your breath with assault rifles ??????? was it in 4

can it be done with mgs/submachine guns.... and is it only woith thermal....or what????

i only found out like 2 minutes ago...and i didnt want to sit through another 20 mins of sabotage to find out the above....because i would of forgot about posting this.

Useful.Idiot

Currently trying to get the last M16 expert achievement (for fall camo)
Absolutely brilliant gun, with stopping power it stops most people dead in their tracks with one burst, it may not be as good at close range as the SCAR or M4 but if you play strategically you'll find you won't have as much close range encounters.

also I think camping is when a person hides in the same spot for the majority of the round, somewhere out of the way (such as behind the metal detectors in Terminal) waiting for anyone to run by, they are annoying but usually dont get that many kills. Defending a certain spot isn't camping, but you still have to be moving around to avoid getting shot/stabbed in the back.

Donnelly117

ScissorPaperRoc wrote: »

Yeah Scar for me too

the small clip on the scar annoys me tho. i go for the tar or the acr usually

shawpower

Dcully wrote: »

No it means dont get caught in close quarter fights where the akimbo shotguns can dominate.
Define camping by the way.
If im protecting a flag or bombsite am i deemed to be camping to you?
Camping is a term branded about by people that havent a clue what it actually means.

Mate, it was meant to be ironic. Hence the smilie shock faces followed by a wink.

opinion guy

Mousey- wrote: »

omfg wtf

since when could you hold your breath with assault rifles ??????? was it in 4

can it be done with mgs/submachine guns.... and is it only woith thermal....or what????

i only found out like 2 minutes ago...and i didnt want to sit through another 20 mins of sabotage to find out the above....because i would of forgot about posting this.

Didn't know you can do this. I rarely use thermal on anything but sniper and thats also rare