Speed cameras approved for Ireland - implementation by approx May 2010

youareyou

"If it saves one life ......." yawn

Tipsy Mac

Works out that they will cost €6,800 each per week, is John O'Donoghue going to be personally taking the photos.

Owen

Will they be the genuine "We'd like to save lives" version, signposted, and covered in yellow reflective material so everyone can see them, or the usual hidden behind a sign on the Motorway to catch someone dangerously driving 8km over the 120kph limit?

BlackWizard

In the middle of a recession with a budget deficit of 22bn euro and we just spent 16million euro on mobile speed cameras.

robtri

BlackWizard wrote: »

In the middle of a recession with a budget deficit of 22bn euro and we just spent 16million euro on mobile speed cameras.

ahhhhhhhh sure... you have to spend money to make money.......

De Hipster

Let the burning begin...shortly after installation! *












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smash

16, I thought it was 60?

Savman

BlackWizard wrote: »

In the middle of a recession with a budget deficit of 22bn euro and we just spent 16million euro on mobile speed cameras.

Yeah but good investment tho innit? Think of the spondooligs they'll earn from us. This was inevitable tbh, easy pickings.

youareyou

BlackWizard wrote: »

In the middle of a recession with a budget deficit of 22bn euro and we just spent 16million euro on mobile speed cameras.

I cant get my head around the fact that these bull**** cameras print money and we are still going to have to pay for their upkeep. Its a complete farce. There must have been several very large brown envelopes given for this one.

trad

De Hipster wrote: »

Let the burning begin...shortly after installation!










*Disclaimser: De Hips already been one attackter would never knowingly provoke or envoke violent or illegal behaviour in individuals particularly in respect of state property.

These are mobile units. There has already been an arson attack on a Garda unit with a Garda in it.

cashel girl

i think this is a great idea, anything that can help stop so much carnage on our roads is worth it and at the end of the day it is the speeders that will be paying for these units.

Heroditas

cashel girl wrote: »

i think this is a great idea, anything that can help stop so much carnage on our roads is worth it and at the end of the day it is the speeders that will be paying for these units.

Indeed, particularly all the carnage on the motorways :rolleyes:

cashel girl

Heroditas wrote: »

Indeed, particularly all the carnage on the motorways :rolleyes:

people who speed, speed on all roads:rolleyes: maybe if it costs them enough they will think and slow down!!

antomorro-sei

Seems like a huge amount of money :eek:

How many cameras are we getting? Fixed or Mobile?

no1beemerfan

cashel girl wrote: »

i think this is a great idea, anything that can help stop so much carnage on our roads is worth it and at the end of the day it is the speeders that will be paying for these units.

Hmmmm wonder where these speeders will be though? Me thinks Motorways, and big straights on very good main roads. And when has there been a fatality on these?

Its the back roads the "£$%^& need to be on but sure thats too much work :mad:

trad

Heroditas wrote: »

Indeed, particularly all the carnage on the motorways :rolleyes:

They won't be able to operate on motorways, they are mobile units and it's an offence to park a vehicle on a motorway (they won't be owned by the Gardai). They are supposed to be operating on the speeding blackspots on the Garda website.

Owen

cashel girl wrote: »

maybe if it costs them enough they will think and slow down!!

Speed is a factor is less that 5% of road fatalities.

Heroditas

cashel girl wrote: »

people who speed, speed on all roads:rolleyes: maybe if it costs them enough they will think and slow down!!

How many people die on motorways?
How many people die during the daytime?
What other factors are involved in the crashes?

Why do we keep adopting what they do in the UK?

cashel girl

no1beemerfan wrote: »

Hmmmm wonder where these speeders will be though? Me thinks Motorways, and big straights on very good main roads. And when has there been a fatality on these?

Its the back roads the "£$%^& need to be on but sure thats too much work :mad:

how do people get on and off motorways?? if they speed on a motorway where the limit is 120 then i cant see them slowing down for a limit of 50/80. didnt know they had to be caught in an exact place they could get killed!!

smash

cashel girl wrote: »

how do people get on and off motorways?? if they speed on a motorway where the limit is 120 then i cant see them slowing down for a limit of 50/80. didnt know they had to be caught in an exact place they could get killed!!

I totally disagree, and do you not think the money would be better spent sorting out accident blackspots? Like the area in Galway where the 4 girls were killed on Tuesday night... where's there's been around 10 other accidents there in the last 2 weeks or so!

cashel girl

steve06 wrote: »

I totally disagree, and do you not think the money would be better spent sorting out accident blackspots? Like the area in Galway where the 4 girls were killed on Tuesday night... where's there's been around 10 other accidents there in the last 2 weeks or so!

yes i think the blackspots need to be sorted, but look at that crash, the damage to the car and van, it took speed on at least one side to cause that amount of damage!

tomcollins97

cashel girl wrote: »

people who speed, speed on all roads:rolleyes: maybe if it costs them enough they will think and slow down!!

Remind me again - is it excess speed or excess drink that causes accidents?? Each time the government try to roll out some new safety drive that tackles a particular offence that becomes the 'killer of the month'.

Would the govt. ever make up their mind - does drink kill? If so, reducing drink drive limit will save lives. Plus, fines will raise revenue.

Does speed kill - if so, bring in speed camera. Plus, fines will raise revenue.

how about stupidity? Could we test drivers more often? Answer: No, this will cost money

How about age? Could we check the eyesight of over 50 drives regularly? Answer: No, this will cost money

How about poor road condition? Will we repair the roads? Answer: No, this will cost money

The truth of the matter is that all 'accidents' have a number of contributary factors. The government will only tackle those which generate money. If we eradicate drink-driving and speeding we will still have some stupid person driving with poor eyesight that will miss a pothole and send their car out of control. No amount of speed-cameras and low alchohol limits will save the stupid blind person from hiting a pot hole

Cionád

cashel girl wrote: »

how do people get on and off motorways?? if they speed on a motorway where the limit is 120 then i cant see them slowing down for a limit of 50/80. didnt know they had to be caught in an exact place they could get killed!!

Well you are completely wrong, I would do a good 10-20% above the limit on an empty motorway in good conditions, I wouldn't dream of exceeding the limit in housing estates, built-up areas, outside schools, on dangerous country roads etc.

The people most at fault are those who travel at a constant speed, you know the people that go 70 on a 100 road, 70 on an 80 road, 70 on a 50 road, they are too incompetant to drive at appropriate limits, and they get away with it because speed camera's are rarely located on dangerous stretches, instead nabbing people on the M1.

De Hipster

trad wrote: »

These are mobile units. There has already been an arson attack on a Garda unit with a Garda in it.

Seems this was included for you:


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TestTransmission

tomcollins97 wrote: »

Remind me again - is it excess speed or excess drink that causes accidents??

Have you forgotten already?

He drives,she dies sure.

cabrwab

cashel girl wrote: »

but look at that crash, the damage to the car and van, it took speed on at least one side to cause that amount of damage!

I don't know the exact cause of that crash, but conditions were terrible, aqua planing maybe, starts happening at approx 50ish depending on tires.

If the speed of both vehicles was 100Kmh impact speed 200kmh so within speed limits. Then you have the 2 different types of vehicles involved, small car vs small truck.
The impact point on the car from the truck head on would've being devastating.

Look up 5th gear on you tube i know they did a crash test on a jeep and a civic to show the effects of the different heights of vehicles in crash.

But this is just an exercise in collecting money.
Clamp down on motorway speed, yeah accident black spots!
Its just nuts. But if there extremely visible it'll be ok, if its green transit van against trees its a little underhanded.

drunkmonkey

cashel girl wrote: »

it took speed on at least one side to cause that amount of damage!

It took a mistake by one driver nothing more nothing less, Speed is a term give to what is commonly known as motion, it's required to get from one point to another. It's not always at fault but always involved.

I.S.T.

Tipsy Mac wrote: »

Works out that they will cost €6,800 each per week, is John O'Donoghue going to be personally taking the photos.

I think you are a little off the mark there. It will cost €16 million per year :eek: running costs. That works out at €307,692 per week!! Are they having a laugh or what. They will need to issue 3,846 speeding fines per week to pay for this.

I.S.T.

De Hipster wrote: »

Let the burning begin...shortly after installation! *

They are only the mobile cameras. The original plan is to have 300 mobile and 300 fixed cameras. This €16 million per year is only paying for 45 mobile speed cameras (http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1120/roads.html)

cashel girl wrote: »

i think this is a great idea, anything that can help stop so much carnage on our roads is worth it and at the end of the day it is the speeders that will be paying for these units.

I think the €16 million per year could save more lives if it was used to stop cutbacks in the health service.

trad wrote: »

They won't be able to operate on motorways, they are mobile units and it's an offence to park a vehicle on a motorway (they won't be owned by the Gardai). They are supposed to be operating on the speeding blackspots on the Garda website.

THey will probably be given a special exemption to park on motorways.

darragh o meara

jackncoke wrote: »

Have you forgotten already?

He drives,she dies sure.

You mean:


She drives we all f uc king die

Shires

cashel girl wrote: »

people who speed, speed on all roads:rolleyes:

That would be a bit thick, because it's quite often very obvious which ones are likely to have checkpoints.

cashel girl wrote: »

maybe if it costs them enough they will think and slow down!!

See above, it won't help if the person speeding has a bit of common sense and doesn't get caught.