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Mis-Casting Major Roles

  • 20-11-2009 02:07AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭


    I'm starting a thread here for your opinions on big roles in cinema history that were miscast.

    My own vote goes to Dustin Hoffman in 'The Graduate'. This film was a huge success and is well regarded but I believe Hoffman was a terrible choice for the lead. He was however nominated for an Oscar.
    Plot Synopsis: A disillusioned college graduate is seduced by a friend of his parents (Ann Bancroft - superb casting). He subsequently falls in love with this woman's daughter (Katharine Ross - great casting again). True love triumphs - iconic final scene as the bride runs from the altar into Hoffman's arms and they run off together
    Apparently Robert Redford tested for the role and in my opinion would have done a better job as I believe the role called for a good looking All-American type. Hoffman just isn't believable as a guy who a married woman would try to seduce and a beautiful girl would give up all for.
    Opinions please


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,845 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Good idea for a thread OP:

    Jake Gyllenhaal in Prince of Persia already looks like a major misfire.
    Julia Roberts in Michael Collins was all-demographic-conquering nonsense.
    Will Smith should not have been a black cowboy in a PG13 Wild Wild West.
    Tarantino as himself in Pulp Fiction is always a moment that takes you completely out of the film. Everybody gives incredible performances and then... then he shows up talking about his coffee
    Keanu Reeves in Dracula. And nearly everything else to be fair
    Mos Def in 16 Blocks. The most incredibly irritating accent in film history - that actually isn't hyperbole, go on YouTube
    Scwarzenegger in Batman and Robin. As bad as that film is, Uma Thurman comes out unscathed with a pretty good villain performance, not so for Arnie

    A lot of people will probably mention Tom Cruise in Valkyrie but I thought he did a good job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭MikeC101


    DiCaprio in The Aviator - not a reflection on his acting skills, just he looks too young for the role. Which is something he's cursed with really. Even in the trailers for the upcoming Shutter Island he looks like a kid dressed up in his dads suit. (I've also heard he was going to play Bateman in American Psycho, which might have been a contender for this thread).

    John Wayne in The Conqueror. John Wayne playing John Wayne, but meant to be Genghis Khan. Say no more.

    Sofia Coppola in the Godfather Part 3. Fairly obvious reasons, not much of an actress, and only in it because of who her dad was. I'm not sure this counts as a "major" role though, but I think it's a common choice when discussing miscast roles.

    Orlando Bloom in Kingdom of Heaven. I like the film, and what Scott tried to do with it (shame it was promoted as a Gladiator style action movie) but Bloom as Balian was a horrible choice. He just wasn't credible as a tough blacksmith, or a hardened crusader.

    Every single major role in Alexander. Which is more a reflection on the director, and my hatred of the film I suppose.

    Keanu Reeves in *throws dart*....Dracula. Or maybe Constantine. Then again the whole decision to make Constantine an American gun toting ass kicker was woeful, so it's likely I'd be listing anyone who played that role.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Laurence Olivier - Mohammad Ahmed in Khartoum
    Chuck Heston as Michelangelo (though aparantly he did a decent job)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭thorbarry


    George Clooney - Batman Forever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I always felt Hoffman was a little out of place in the Graduate, but it did let me believe that if it could happen to him, it could happen to me! :D I heard Hoffman was also going to play Rambo, so that could of been interesting especially if they kept him for the sequels.

    rambo2.jpg

    I didn't think Keanu Reeves was too bad in Constantine, to be honest. Since it was converted to an American action film, he kind of fit the role. And I kind of liked Mos Def in 16 Blocks. His accent was annoying, but other than that he was pretty good in the role.

    Hayden Christensen as Anakin Skywalker was just a terrible choice. And this will probably be an unpopular choice but I didn't like Anthony Hopkins as Hannible Lector. I much prefered Brian Cox who was a much more menacing character, where as Hopkins version was a cartoon supervillain type which I felt made the character a whole lot less believable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    James Cromwell as tough Irish cop Dudley Smith in L.A. Confidential. Too old, too weedy, not tough enough. Brendan Gleeson would have been perfect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    humanji wrote: »
    Hayden Christensen as Anakin Skywalker was just a terrible choice.

    Ding ding ding Jackpot!

    Also Tom Hanks in the Dan Brown movie adaptations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,480 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane in Superman Returns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Decuc500 wrote: »
    James Cromwell as tough Irish cop Dudley Smith in L.A. Confidential. Too old, too weedy, not tough enough. Brendan Gleeson would have been perfect.

    TBH when I was watching it, I didn't think there was anything wrong with Cromwell, but when you mention Gleeson, I can now see where it could have been at least improved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Decuc500 wrote: »
    James Cromwell as tough Irish cop Dudley Smith in L.A. Confidential. Too old, too weedy, not tough enough. Brendan Gleeson would have been perfect.

    Hmm, it was because he was old and weedy that
    You are so shocked when he shoots Spacey's character Jack Vincenze. If it was Brendan Gleeson then the shock wouldn't have the same impact


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    Otacon wrote: »
    TBH when I was watching it, I didn't think there was anything wrong with Cromwell, but when you mention Gleeson, I can now see where it could have been at least improved.

    I was just too big a fan of James Ellroys books and had a different picture of the character in my head. Always a problem with movie adaptations of books you like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane in Superman Returns

    Absof*ckinglutely! What were they thinking? It made so little sense I always wondered if it was a studio decision? Felt the same about Brandon Routh but he won me over.

    I think DiCaprio also suffers for looking too young in everything he is in.

    Stuart Townsend as Aragon in Lord of the Rings. Luckly he felt the same and quit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane in Superman Returns

    Yeah. The main problem there was that she was way too young. She would have had to have been about 18 years old when she had the kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Yeah. The main problem there was that she was way too young. She would have had to have been about 18 years old when she had the kid.
    And since you'd assume she and Clark dated for a few years before, you kind of understand why he had to leave town!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Halle Berry in X-Men, cast purely because they probably couldnt think of another black actress for the role, the worst thing in all 3 movies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Josey Wales


    humanji wrote: »
    I didn't like Anthony Hopkins as Hannible Lector. I much prefered Brian Cox who was a much more menacing character, where as Hopkins version was a cartoon supervillain type which I felt made the character a whole lot less believable.

    I think your right about Hopkins performance but only in relation to his appearances in the sequels Hannibal and Red Dragon. I thought in Silence of the Lambs he was very effective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭cashback


    Kevin Spacey in The Shipping News. I only saw half of the film and didn't read the book, but he just did not seem to fit the role at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    krudler wrote: »
    Halle Berry in X-Men, cast purely because they probably couldnt think of another black actress for the role, the worst thing in all 3 movies

    Worse then Vinnie Jones?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭jasonbourme.cs


    Christian Bale in terminator salvation , thought he spent the whole movie using his " batman voice " :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Worse then Vinnie Jones?

    Yup:) I hate Halle Berry, one of the most untalented actresses to ever win an oscar, thankfully Catwoman pretty much killed her career, and good riddance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭homerun_homer


    Not that this would have saved the movie but Matthew Goode as Veidt/Ozymandias in Watchmen was a terrible choice. The comic book had a big buff character who oozed intelligence and then the film brings in this weedy, school boy looking actor. He didn't look right at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Damn, there's some great examples in here!

    Jack Black in King Kong. Wow.

    I personally hate Shia leBouf. I can't help thinking someone else could've done a much better job in Transformers. The guys 'get' Megan Fox but the girls 'get' Shia lePuff. Something about his face makes me want to punch him! Especially in Indiana Jones 4. Maybe that's the character though...rat-faced Greaser with a sword :pac::pac::pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    Not that this would have saved the movie but Matthew Goode as Veidt/Ozymandias in Watchmen was a terrible choice. The comic book had a big buff character who oozed intelligence and then the film brings in this weedy, school boy looking actor. He didn't look right at all.

    I thought he fit the role well. He wasn't all that buff, more athletic and clean cut which is what his character was. All super heroes look buff in comics, it's just default.

    I might as well say I thought Keanu Reeves was great in Constantine but I hadn't read the comics before I saw it.

    I'll add Orlando Bloom in the Pirates films, as well as Kiera Knightly. To say nothing of the later films the first one was brilliant. They were the only bad things about it. I also agree with Kingdom of Heaven, which I liked in spite of the lead which says something. I've been meaning to watch the directors cut which is meant to be a great improvement on the theatrical release.

    I'll also add that Christopher Lee and Iain McKellen should have had each others roles in LotR.

    Katie Holmes in Batman. She was like a child play acting. Her scenes would have sat a little bit more comfy with me if she had been wearing clothes ten times too big for her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,480 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah. The main problem there was that she was way too young. She would have had to have been about 18 years old when she had the kid.

    Younger. I think the kid was 5, which means you're talking nearly 6 years from conception. She was 22 when she was in Superman Returns. No wonder Superman is all emo in that film, he's been hanging round with teen girls.
    Shryke wrote:
    I'll also add that Christopher Lee and Iain McKellen should have had each others roles in LotR.

    Really? I dunno, while I think Ian McKellen could have played Saruman brilliantly, I think Christopher Lee was more suited to that role, and far less suited to Gandalf. He just looks old and sinister.

    I agree with you on Holmes, Bloom and Knightly though. Especially Holmes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 irishwarrior


    Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane in Superman Returns
    Huge superman fan,she just wasn't up to the part...big big let down:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 495 ✭✭Clare_Guy


    Will Smith in ''Legend of Bagger Vance'' I actually liked the movie, it was shot beautifully and had a good cast. Ok it was a bit twee but what really ruined it for me was the casting of a twenty-something Will Smith in a role that was made for Morgan Freeman...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭cabrwab


    My problem with halle berry in xmen is she's just not clever enough.
    In my eyes the perfect person to play that role was always angela bassett, i think her tougher more mature storm would have being perfect.

    Vinne jones as juggernaut was the first thing that popped into my head about a bad casting decision.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    Christian Bale in terminator salvation , thought he spent the whole movie using his " batman voice " :rolleyes:

    Definitely. Lets leave aside how sh*t the film was for a second. If you switched CB with the fella playing the man-terminator then it would have vastly improved the film. FFS Christian Bale did a better job of robotic acting than all the feckin robots put together!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,183 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I keep hearing about how bad Sofia Coppola was in The Godfather Part III, and while I agree she was no professional actress, I thought she was an awkward teenager playing an awkward teenager, and not miscasting at all. It was a bit of last-minute casting after Winona Ryder dropped out.

    Here's a classic example, from Paint Your Wagon (1969):

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭MikeC101


    bnt wrote: »
    I keep hearing about how bad Sofia Coppola was in The Godfather Part III, and while I agree she was no professional actress, I thought she was an awkward teenager playing an awkward teenager, and not miscasting at all. It was a bit of last-minute casting after Winona Ryder dropped out.

    She's poor in it, that's hard to deny, but then again I always thought it must have been tough for someone with little experience to be in so many scenes with Pacino, and be judged against that.

    To be fair to her it's not really her fault, it's Francis Ford Coppola whose to blame really. I know Ryder dropped out at short notice, but it's hard to believe they couldn't have gotten a more experienced, proven actress.

    That's why I think she's perfect for a thread like this, she was miscast more than anything.


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