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Fashion And Appearance

  • 18-11-2009 3:14pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,640 ✭✭✭✭


    Whilst doing stuff in another forum I (again) had to point out that the F&A forum is NOT a womens only forum and that men ARE allowed to post there. There is a perciption that any interest in F&A is not 'manly' and might even be an indicator of being gay. Admittedly the majority of these posts are from youngsters trying to buy girly items for the G/F's birthdays etc., and they might not have the wherewithall or courage to ask over the counter for advice. However I still get vexed when I see posts starting "Lad here. I need you ladies advice, what should I wear...". Grrrrr.

    Are men inept when it comes to fashion and appearance?
    Do you rely on your partners to dress you?
    Do you ever talk about F&A with your mates?
    Am I the one who's out of step with the rest of the Gentlemen?

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    OldGoat wrote: »
    However I still get vexed when I see posts starting "Lad here. I need you ladies advice, what should I wear...". Grrrrr.
    If they're dressing for other people let them off.
    Are men inept when it comes to fashion and appearance?
    Unfortunately, a lot are.
    Do you rely on your partners to dress you?
    No. Nor my mammy.
    Do you ever talk about F&A with your mates?
    Yep
    Am I the one who's out of step with the rest of the Gentlemen?
    No, but quite possibly in the minority.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,529 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    OldGoat wrote: »
    Are men inept when it comes to fashion and appearance?
    I don't know about inept, personally I just don't care about it. Fashion just goes straight over my head.
    Do you rely on your partners to dress you?
    No, she's about as interested in fashion as I am.
    Do you ever talk about F&A with your mates?
    I don't discuss it with anyone, it's of no interest to me.
    Am I the one who's out of step with the rest of the Gentlemen?
    Quite possibly :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Warfi


    OldGoat wrote: »
    Whilst doing stuff in another forum I (again) had to point out that the F&A forum is NOT a womens only forum and that men ARE allowed to post there. There is a perciption that any interest in F&A is not 'manly' and might even be an indicator of being gay. Admittedly the majority of these posts are from youngsters trying to buy girly items for the G/F's birthdays etc., and they might not have the wherewithall or courage to ask over the counter for advice. However I still get vexed when I see posts starting "Lad here. I need you ladies advice, what should I wear...". Grrrrr.

    Are men inept when it comes to fashion and appearance?
    Do you rely on your partners to dress you?
    Do you ever talk about F&A with your mates?
    Am I the one who's out of step with the rest of the Gentlemen?


    Do men not slag each other if one of them starts talking about clothes, or wears something unusual?

    I went out with a guy from Cavan who worked in Dublin (bout seven/eight years ago). He bought a shirt (with stripes), wore it out in Dublin no worries. Went back to Cavan and was unmercifully slagged for wearing 'his pyjamas to the pub'. Ironically, stripey shirts are a staple in any country man's wardrobe nowadays :pac:

    Where am I going with this? Oh yeah, if you're male and live in Dublin you should avail of all that F&A can offer. If you're a culchie, keep out until you catch up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    Define "inept".

    There exists a lot of snobbery as to what looks good and doesn't. Anyone who would use the term "inept" to describe the way someone dressed would strike me as being insecure or snobbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    OldGoat wrote: »

    Are men inept when it comes to fashion and appearance?

    well i think that an exspansive question really well for me i guess.
    While most people dress in hoodies they useually have some sort of logo, personally i go for hoodies that have been designed bye the likes of
    this guy here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futura_2000 how i got into his clothing etc was through a band called Unkle.

    Other kinds of designers would be OG able an L,A graffiti arist, who colaberated with Osiris shoes.

    and few other.

    heres aplace i do at time buy clothing from tho some of its a not really me http://www.wellgosh.com/acatalog/Futura_Laboratories_Atomic_Tee_White_Black_Red.html

    tho I always try to find cloths that you wont see on the high street
    Do you rely on your partners to dress you?

    No girls can either like or lump my style its me its how i dress. I wont have them buy me cloths unless i truly no they no how i dress
    Do you ever talk about F&A with your mates?

    Yeah some of them one fo my mates had gone from the doge hair cut and the cheacked flannele shirts to long sleaves taylor made in a year think it was his gf but we talk about it at times.. tho i suspect when I have some money wel be going on a binge. In town.
    Am I the one who's out of step with the rest of the Gentlemen?

    I wouldnt say so i mean you have your style apprence is important its your distinktiveness. while others happpilly dress lkike every one else.

    I wont buy a shirt unless its got a nice cut to it, I wont wear a boring belt its gotta have some attractive style to it well for me.

    sneakers have to have some really cool graffics on it and i useually change the laces for a more fitting colour then just white which to be honest looks naff, I like to dress the way i do beacuse its how i dress.

    about two years ago i couldnt dress my self to save my life some people could argue i still can't but then again while those people maybe into lous viton and guccie (id love a gucci suit :)) and pretty respectable clothes I just dont have the life style where it requires such clothing so i dress to my life style which more then anything need to be hard wearing comfy....

    skater gear takes the abuse i throw a clothes and never brakes rips or fall apart. I think its important to have style girls notice everything from your sneakers to your belt teath and everything else you where.

    even my wellys have a labol :pac: but thats cause there comfy which is important...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Warfi wrote: »
    Where am I going with this? Oh yeah, if you're male and live in Dublin you should avail of all that F&A can offer. If you're a culchie, keep out until you catch up

    Or ignore them and enjoy :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,640 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    Right on the button with 'Snobbish'. Thats me. or at least I have pretentions to be a Snob. :)

    I used 'inept' as thats generally how the men & boys who post in F&A tend to portray themselves. Their questions seem to start with "I don't know about clothes..." and "I don't know what to wear...". They put themeselves down in the opening sentance, claiming to be unable to choose for themselves. It was this inability, this ineptatude that led me to use 'inept'. I understand that they are asking for advice and that is always a good thing.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭maherro


    I wouldn't talk too much about F&A with mates, partners etc. The most input I'd ask for is if Im about to head out and I ask my sisters whether I need to change - though thats more about another opinion then being law.

    As for buying clothes, I do so rarely, only once or twice a year but I would always try to make sure it looks good!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Warfi


    OldGoat wrote: »
    Their questions seem to start with "I don't know about clothes..." and "I don't know what to wear...". They put themeselves down in the opening sentance, claiming to be unable to choose for themselves.

    I'd say they talk like this because they're aware of the slagging they would get if their male friends ever found out they were looking for fashion advice


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    OldGoat wrote: »

    I used 'inept' as thats generally how the men & boys who post in F&A tend to portray themselves. Their questions seem to start with "I don't know about clothes..." and "I don't know what to wear...". They put themeselves down in the opening sentance, claiming to be unable to choose for themselves. It was this inability, this ineptatude that led me to use 'inept'. I understand that they are asking for advice and that is always a good thing.


    I think thats down to confidance to be honest ohhh Im a bit unsure what to wear I'm scarred im might come accross as ya no camp or something because how they dress or they just dont know how to dress?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭The Recliner


    OldGoat wrote: »
    Are men inept when it comes to fashion and appearance?

    Quite possibly if you look at the title of this thread :D

    Me I don't care too much for fashion as such and have never ventured into the Fashion and Appearance forum

    I do like buying tshirts with nice designs on them but that is about it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭Madame Razz


    From a female perspective the OH has zero interest in clothes/appearance, yet grumbles to me that I show him up because I'm dressed up etc.

    This however is his issue and I refuse to dress him. His body, his choice. Not my problem.

    I did however persuade him to stop dying his hair; as it looked ridiculous as it was and it looks a lot better grey.

    I don't think it's a question of style or lack thereof; I think a lot of men just aren't arsed tbh; a lot of women aren't all that arsed either but 'De Meadya' coverage almost pushes them into having to be. Hard to opt out of something that's in your face all the time tbh. Men don't really have that.

    Plus men don't have to deal with that nasty competitiveness that exists between women either, which is a big factor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    Personally, I've an interest in looking good, but not buying new clothes every week, changing my look all the time etc. I can't think of many things that would interest me less than keeping up with the latest fashion trends.

    It's not something I'd ask for advice on much, because, as with other areas of my life, I like to be independent and I don't rely on the opinions of others much. I have to go clothes shopping on my own, for example. And no, I wouldn't let my partner dress me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    I dress myself and I dress well. The only people I really talk to about my clothes are my brother and my sister, who both think similarly on the subject. My brother is my height and not far off my build, which is awesome cos it doubles both our wardrobes, meaning I don't have to buy clothes half as often as I would. :) Nothing 'unmanly' about dressing nice tbh. I'd rather be seen as 'unmanly' and well presented than 'manly' in a nirvana hoodie and baggy jeans. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,488 ✭✭✭pikachucheeks


    I The only people I really talk to about my clothes are my brother and my sister, who both think similarly on the subject.

    You talk to me about clothes as well! :p

    Personally, I think it's nice when a man has an interest in his clothing and appearance. It's perfectly fine to want to look good and to want to look your best. Putting a bit of effort into these things can be quite impressive to women.

    A man who puts effort into his style is generally much more attractive than a man who doesn't, or relies on the same old clothes year in, year out, in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,183 ✭✭✭✭Will


    I take an interest in clothing, however rarely make the effort. I have done so in the past though and worked out well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    You talk to me about clothes as well! :p

    Ruinin' my cool, Andie.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    The bf loves clothes, and most days he looks fantastic.

    He will actually listen to me if I say that skinny jeans look like **** on him, and bootcut look better.

    He puts thought into his clothes and how he looks, and enjoys dressing well so that he looks good.

    We tend to shop together and chat about clothes and what's good and what's not.

    Last week we were in TKMaxx and he found one nice suit he liked. An hour later instead he bought a Katherine Hamnet suit which is just gorgeous on him, fits incredibly well, suits his build, and is a real investment.

    Both of us would tend as much as possible to invest in good clothes and supplement with cheaper accessories/tops/whatever.

    I actually enjoy it, it's an activity we both enjoy and it's fun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Whilst I dress myself, I have no passing interest in fashion trends.
    I do, however, refuse to wear a tracksuit or item of sport clothing unless I am actually playing sport. I see far too many people my age (29) wearing sporty clothes.
    I seem to have settled in to a definitive mode of dressing myself.
    It involves variations of the following look which pretty much is me on a daily basis.

    96505.JPG

    Thanks to Mr Butler for the modelling, but it basically boils down to
    - a casual (machine washable) suit jacket (grey/navy)
    - a nice well fitted pair of denims
    - an ironed shirt or a shirt with a plain jumper
    - polished black shoes
    - a nice watch


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 653 ✭✭✭CSC


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    Whilst I dress myself, I have no passing interest in fashion trends.
    I do, however, refuse to wear a tracksuit or item of sport clothing unless I am actually playing sport. I see far too many people my age (29) wearing sporty clothes.
    I seem to have settled in to a definitive mode of dressing myself.
    It involves variations of the following look which pretty much is me on a daily basis.

    96505.JPG

    Thanks to Mr Butler for the modelling, but it basically boils down to
    - a casual (machine washable) suit jacket (grey/navy)
    - a nice well fitted pair of denims
    - an ironed shirt or a shirt with a plain jumper
    - polished black shoes
    - a nice watch

    That's a very good look. Similar to what I have been wearing lately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,183 ✭✭✭✭Will


    Found this on reddit, some good wisdom in there
    50 STYLE THOUGHTS
    BY: KARL G. FASHION STYLE AFICIONADO


    1.The fit of clothing is the most important thing about your wardrobe; you can buy the most expensive attire but if it isn"t the right size or doesn"t fit your body proportions correctly it"s just going to look sloppy;

    2. Buy the best that you can afford within your budget; quality will not only look better but will last longer;

    3. Black shoes black belt; brown shoes brown belt;

    4. A gentleman never feels compelled to disclose his income nor does he feel any desire to ask what anyone else earns either;

    5. A gentleman will bring not only enough cash to buy drinks for himself, but enough to cover for everyone else just in case they don"t;

    6. Clothing hangs better off a fit body so staying in shape and lifting weights not only ensures you live longer, but will make your clothes drape that much better on your body; therefore, make a commitment to a healthy lifestyle and understand that cardio may be a necessary evil;

    7. Style is often nothing more than attitude;

    8. No socks with sandals;

    9. If the suit doesn"t fit in the shoulders, don"t buy it; shoulders really cannot be altered;

    10. The sleeve of a dress shirt should show from beneath the sleeve of your suit coat, anywhere from 1/4 to 1/ 2 inch;

    11. Invest in good well-made leather dress shoes - and take care of them; use shoe trees and clean, wax and polish them regularly and they"ll easily last you a lifetime;

    12. Establish relationships and understand that if you can call one person your friend, your confidant and your equal, you have accomplished one of the hardest things in life;

    13. If you wear any kind of sandal, clean your feet, cut your toenails and just make things look presentable, feet are ugly enough as it is;

    14. Try to never buy anything at full price; everything eventually will go on sale;

    15. Trim your eyebrows, pluck ear hairs and clip nose hairs, nobody wants to be whispering sweet nothings to you only to see ear hairs blowing in the wind;

    16. Don"t dump half a bottle of cologne on, your scent should only be detectable up close and personal;

    17. Beware of zippers when going commando and always tap twice at the urinal;

    18. Wear clothing that is appropriate not only for the occasion but appropriate for your age;

    19. True athletic shoes should be worn while doing something athletic;

    20. A gentleman will not only recognize when he is wrong but will readily admit it;

    21. Socks should match the pants;

    22. Black actually does go with everything, as does grey;

    23. Every guy should own at least one suit for occasions such as weddings, funerals, job interviews; a navy blue or charcoal grey two-button single-breasted one will serve you well;

    24. Find a good barber or hair stylist and get a good decent haircut that not only suits your facial features but which does not take more than a few minutes to fix in the morning; and once you get that great haircut, keep it trimmed and neat;

    25. With clothing care, hang everything that needs ironing or pressing or wrinkles easily and fold everything else;

    26. When undoing a tie, don"t pull on the knot to pull it apart, untie it going in the reverse order of how you tied it;

    27. Casual Fridays at work does not mean you are allowed to look like you just got up and out of bed;

    28. No button-down collared shirts with a suit and tie, they look much smarter when worn with a sports coat;

    29. Short-sleeved dress shirts do not exist, repeat twice;

    30. Brown leather dress shoes do indeed go with navy blue and grey suits and dress pants;

    31. Go bald gracefully, cut your hair short and don"t worry about it;

    32. No one item in a guy’s wardrobe can be as versatile as a crisp white cotton dress shirt; its simplicity makes it timeless, luxurious, utilitarian yet sophisticated;

    33. You only need to dry clean a suit when necessary or once a season; in the interim, air it out, brush it, steam out wrinkles and have it pressed in between cleanings to keep your investment looking sharp;

    34. Get a simple slim leather wallet and only carry the minimum of credit cards and identification;

    35. Get one pair of hip-sitting butt-hugging pair of jeans in dark indigo non-distressed denim; and, be suspect of black colored jeans, unless worn by Hedi Slimane;

    36. Linen wrinkles, there"s nothing you can do about it;

    37. There should come a point in your life when underwear should not be showing out from under your pants or your pants hanging off your rear, and that age is when you graduate off diapers;

    38. Essential products that every guy should have in his medicine cabinet and use on a regular basis to keep that manly mug looking that much more handsome over time: a facial wash, a facial scrub, a good shave product appropriate to the thickness of one"s beard, a moisturizer with an SPF, and a deodorant;

    39. Shaving is an art, take a few extra minutes to wet your face with warm water, let the shave product work away at your beard growth for a minute or two, use a sharp razor and shave in the direction of your hair growth and you"ll never get nicks or cuts again;

    40. Have one regret; life isn’t complete without mistakes;

    41. Less is more;

    42. Loafers are not appropriate shoes to wear with a suit: depending on the suit, lace-ups, monk straps, high vamp slip-ons and Chelsea boots are all options that can work;

    43. Learn that your reputation is the most important asset you own;

    44. Pocket squares should compliment the outfit and not match identically to your shirt or tie or anything else;

    45. A light colored suit is not appropriate for evening functions; it may be wise to invest in a tuxedo;

    46. Graduate to a drink you can call your own;

    47. There are times and places when clothing should be functional first and fashionable second, as when working out in the gym; this is not to say that there are not stylish functional pieces of clothing;

    48. When finished packing a suitcase, stop and take out 1/3 of that which you just packed; you"ll still have more clothes than you need;

    49. A man of style will treat others in the same manner that he"d like to be treated in return;

    50. With any rule, there is at least one exception, except for #1, #3 and #8 above.

    http://www.baxterofcalifornia.com/article.php?id=55&mytag=article


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    I simply don't care about clothes or appearance. I just don't see why I should spend more than 20 seconds getting ready to do anything. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,183 ✭✭✭✭Will


    Davidius wrote: »
    I simply don't care about clothes or appearance. I just don't see why I should spend more than 20 seconds getting ready to do anything. :pac:

    Pride in yourself, and how you present yourself to the world?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    I want a guci suit :D.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    Will wrote: »
    Pride in yourself, and how you present yourself to the world?
    I'm not following you, can you expand on that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    What Will is trying to say is, spending time (and money) on how you look reflects how you feel about yourself. Being able to show you're proud and confident in what you wear will have a direct effect on what you do.

    Spending a bit more than 20 seconds getting yourself, or getting clothes that will compliment what you're doing will pay off in the long run. Being well presented isn't really that hard, contrary to popular belief.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    Sorry guys to drag up and old thread but with Christmas coming it go me thinking about the Christmas day outfit!

    I for one always make a big effort to look my best, perhaps a little bit more than I do usually during the year. What do other GC men do? Suit? :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'd know way more about women's fashion and fit than I would about my own or mens TBH. Decent shoes, good watch(s:o), jeans and shirt would be the extent of my wardrobe. Jackets are all pretty much functional. Oilskins and the like. I possess neither a suit, tie nor a suit jacket. Even though my build tends to work well enough with them. I abhor ties I must say. I dunno, after my school uniform I figured nope :D Though I still fit it which is very weird. My dad was a stylish dresser as were my grandfathers and they did regard me askance, so I dunno where I get it from. Style clearly skips generations.

    For weddings and the like I'll either hire something, or nick one of my dads old suit jackets. Something like christmas wouldnt register with me TBH. Though I do admire men who are well dressed and can spot it. I can at least thank my dad for that. Old Goat is a good example of a stylishly dressed man actually.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    OldGoat wrote: »
    Are men inept when it comes to fashion and appearance?

    Have you seen the "fashion" on display for men? For many years now the popular design seems to be for people without any frame, for blokes without any shoulders, for guys afraid to eat basically. I'm very laid back in my appearance, I like funny t-shirts and baggy jeans, which,depending on your scene, is the height of fashion. lol
    Do you rely on your partners to dress you?

    Nope, if i did, i am pretty sure she would have no interest in me.
    Do you ever talk about F&A with your mates?

    Not usually. Normally never past the point of cool t-shirts.

    Am I the one who's out of step with the rest of the Gentlemen?

    There is no drummer boy beating a marching song, the epitome of manliness is representing yourself how you choose to, and being largely unapologetic about it.

    I own suits, shirts, ties, shiney shoes....I even have some rather nice hats. I've walked into a room of "well dressed people" and been told i'm the best dressed in the room. It's all about the situation, a bit of pride in your appearance never hurts and some situations require a Gent to look his best.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Dragan wrote: »
    Have you seen the "fashion" on display for men? For many years now the popular design seems to be for people without any frame, for blokes without any shoulders, for guys afraid to eat basically.
    I would agree. Kinda like some part of the female fashion vibe has translated over to mens. So you've either got skinny, sporty/baggy or the double breasted louis copeland vibe for the chunkier in the tum guy. Well built muscular guys tend to be left out of the mix a fair bit. Suits tend to hang better on a slimmer frame I would say though. With a bigger guy the look of door security can spring to mind if not careful with the cut. Though like everuything else that's just perception too.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭The Recliner


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I would agree. Kinda like some part of the female fashion vibe has translated over to mens. So you've either got skinny, sporty/baggy or the double breasted louis copeland vibe for the chunkier in the tum guy. Well built muscular guys tend to be left out of the mix a fair bit. Suits tend to hang better on a slimmer frame I would say though. With a bigger guy the look of door security can spring to mind if not careful with the cut. Though like everuything else that's just perception too.

    I find this a lot

    I have a growing belly but also broad shoulders

    I generally look like a midget bouncer in a suit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭GLUEY


    OldGoat wrote: »
    Are men inept when it comes to fashion and appearance?

    In general yes, most probably are.
    OldGoat wrote: »
    Do you rely on your partners to dress you?

    I do not, I'm a big boy now, dress myself. :)
    OldGoat wrote: »
    Do you ever talk about F&A with your mates?

    Ya with some of them, others no.
    OldGoat wrote: »
    Am I the one who's out of step with the rest of the Gentlemen?

    You are certainly in the minority but not alone. Sure it just gives us fashion conscience men the advantage. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,640 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    GLUEY wrote: »
    Sure it just gives us fashion conscience men the advantage. ;)
    Shushhhhhhh
    <-<
    >->
    'tis a sekret!

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I'd love for mens fashion to revert back to the 40's style of suits and hats/overcoats, was watching Public Enemies earlier and how cool would it be to look dapper all the time, i hate most of the clothes in River Island/Next etc these days, they seem to assume all men are either stick thin, love dayglo pink (sorry, salmon) shirts and have ridiculously skinny legs, my style hasnt changed much over the past few years, flareish/bootcut jeans, not too baggy, runners, long sleeve sweaters/funky tshirts, i do love wearing suits on a night out though, always get loads of attention when every other guy looks like they stepped out of a River Island catalogue (fauxhawk, pink polo shirt, drainpipe jeans, crappy runners, eugh)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    krudler wrote: »
    and have ridiculously skinny legs

    Getting pretty sick of this. I'm pretty thin but I have leg muscles because I cycle a lot, so buying jeans is a pain in the ass. Literally.

    They seem to assume your thighs should be the same width as your calves, which should be the same as a slender womans.

    I buy jeans a waist size too big because of this crap.

    The second you life something or move, as opposed to starve, you're pretty much not considered for 'fashionable' mens clothes.

    I wouldn't mind so much if it was possible to buy anything else, but to look half decent and have clothes that fit has started to become very difficult.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Getting pretty sick of this. I'm pretty thin but I have leg muscles because I cycle a lot, so buying jeans is a pain in the ass. Literally.

    They seem to assume your thighs should be the same width as your calves, which should be the same as a slender womans.

    I buy jeans a waist size too big because of this crap.

    The second you life something or move, as opposed to starve, you're pretty much not considered for 'fashionable' mens clothes.

    I wouldn't mind so much if it was possible to buy anything else, but to look half decent and have clothes that fit has started to become very difficult.

    508's were my jeans of choice for a good while. Most of the bigger guys i knew actually used to buy them, because the leg room was very decent. Nice cut too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,640 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    Jeans, Chinos, Slacks: The 3 ages of man. Wearing the wrong trouser at the wrong age is wrong.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    OldGoat wrote: »
    Whilst doing stuff in another forum I (again) had to point out that the F&A forum is NOT a womens only forum and that men ARE allowed to post there. There is a perciption that any interest in F&A is not 'manly' and might even be an indicator of being gay. Admittedly the majority of these posts are from youngsters trying to buy girly items for the G/F's birthdays etc., and they might not have the wherewithall or courage to ask over the counter for advice. However I still get vexed when I see posts starting "Lad here. I need you ladies advice, what should I wear...". Grrrrr.

    I don't give much thought to clothes. They are fairly functional for me-I don't wear any peacock clothes to make me stand out, or unique as I have no need to. Don't have a suit nor do I iron clothes...they are in a pile in the wardrobe and on the floor in my room as I type (must wash them!)

    I don't particularly need to be well dressed, as work doesn't require it, so why bother.

    Are men inept when it comes to fashion and appearance?

    Some such as myself. Though I am neat.

    Do you rely on your partners to dress you?

    Don't have a partner-I dress myself.

    Do you ever talk about F&A with your mates?

    No, I don't talk to people about fashion/appearance. It's like soccor....something that I don't follow.

    Am I the one who's out of step with the rest of the Gentlemen?

    Well, you define yourself as a Gentleman so maybe you are a typical Gentleman as regard fashion/appearance.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭QOTSA90


    OldGoat wrote: »
    Jeans, Chinos, Slacks: The 3 ages of man. Wearing the wrong trouser at the wrong age is wrong.
    Enlighten me.
    Im 19, I picked up 2 pairs of black jeans today, allowed?
    I wouldn't mind owning a few pairs of Chinos.
    Are 19 year olds allowed to wear Chinos?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I would suspect the three ages of man would kinda go like 19 you can wear any of the above, but as you age and or change shape, the choice becomes less. A portly 60 year old in jeans just looks wrong and slacks(though I hate the term. Slack. Says it all :D) will just fit better. A portly 19 year old can get away with it because of his age.

    One look that I cant abide is the long shorts, sandals look on the majority of men over 30. OK if you're in shape and have not got longodystumpylegitis. Otherwise. No. Just no.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 653 ✭✭✭CSC


    QOTSA90 wrote: »
    Enlighten me.
    Im 19, I picked up 2 pairs of black jeans today, allowed?
    I wouldn't mind owning a few pairs of Chinos.
    Are 19 year olds allowed to wear Chinos?

    Obviously you are allowed to wear what ever you want but in my opinion (and it's only one person's opinion) I wouldn't advise you to buy chinos as I don't think they would look right on someone your age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,819 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    I'm actually pretty interested in fashion and have been for the last few years, tend to buy all my clothes online mainly and avoid the high street. I think I've a pretty good sense of style and prob above the average irish bloke and I take care of myself in terms of toiletries as well. Mainly this is because I wanted to improve my odds on the dating scene but I've now pretty much moulded my own style and try to give any advice I can in the Fashion & Appearence thread here. My OH (female!) is pretty much the opposite, she looks great but usually in an unintentional, understated way and would probably prefer if I joined her in the Penneys sales etc. But in general I'm very comfortable in my style and I dress for myself and nobody else, I think it's the perfect medium you should look for but it does take a while to stop wearing what everyone seated next to you has and explore what you like yourself

    Chino's are fine and have had a bit of a revival lately , as long as you're not dressing like a teacher. Good example below, they usually go really well with clean white plimsolls http://www.asos.com/Diesel/Diesel-Swaters-Stripe-Shirt/Prod/pgeproduct.aspx?iid=667789&cid=3602&sh=0&pge=0&pgesize=-1&sort=-1&clr=Black

    Also the whole "can't buy jeans because all they sell is skinny jeans" is a bit mad, most of the jeans I own are straight leg jeans - not too baggy, not too short and they don't hang over your runners and get destroyed after a couple of weeks. Again, an example http://www.asos.com/G-Star/G-Star-Radar-Straight-Jeans/Prod/pgeproduct.aspx?iid=707432&cid=4208&Rf-100=Jeans&Rf19=511,161&sh=0&pge=0&pgesize=200&sort=-1&clr=MidBlue Carrot jeans are good too


  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sometimes, I get accused of dressing too metro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,819 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Sometimes, I get accused of dressing too metro.

    I think metro is more a term of someone who is unsure of themselves and simply chasing the next trend and making a fool of themselves. Pink t-shirts, stonewashed jeans, skinny jeans, dyed hair, earrings, pastel colours, scarf with a t-shirt, oversized beanie, silly haircut - pretty much everything I try to be understated but a bit classy and well-informed. I don't mix too many colours (I really like the plain hoodies and t-shirts from American Apparel) and try make sure something fits well without hugging me too much. I think of this way - if I'm embarrassed of photos of myself in a few years then I've failed myself :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Are men fasion inept ?

    No pretty much just lazy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Magic Eight Ball


    As stated, men are not overly fasion inept, just very, very lazy!

    I know one guy who will buy 3 -5 pairs of the same shirt / jeans simply to save himself the hassle of clothes shopping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    As stated, men are not overly fasion inept, just very, very lazy!

    I know one guy who will buy 3 -5 pairs of the same shirt / jeans simply to save himself the hassle of clothes shopping.

    i find myself sometimes doing that cos i like them rather than the hassle. in real life i could not wear some of the clothes i would like to as they would be OTT.


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,714 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    OldGoat wrote: »
    Jeans, Chinos, Slacks: The 3 ages of man. Wearing the wrong trouser at the wrong age is wrong.

    couldn't disagree more, they are the 3 occasions of man if anything. Wearing the wrong trouser to any occasion if wrong. Age doesn't come into it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭steve_oh


    irish boys definitley dress badly. I was back in my home town over the xmas and there were some bad haircuts and ridiculous outfits in the nite club. Some real humdingers man Im not kiddin.

    to answer your question...men CAN dress themselves. Course they feckin can. Go to italy or london or New york. Irish lads need to step it up though - theres too many hoodies and tracksuit bottoms


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