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Panic Attacks

  • 17-11-2009 12:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7


    Oh lordy, it is so difficult to describe a panic attack. Its like everything becomes warped and in slow motion, you start sweating and it's like you are gripped with the most powerful and unbelievable terror you have ever felt in your life. At that moment, you would rather just fall down dead on the ground than be going through it. You can be going about your daily business and it can just strike you unexpectedly in the most mundane surroundings, and the next thing you know you are clinging to a supermarket shelf with a box of crispy pancakes in your white knuckled fist.

    Surely i'm not alone here? Has anyone managed to overcome this problem?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Lugus


    Hi jennikybooky,( great name by the way). Yea i used to suffer constantly from Panic attacks and i have to agree with you it's the worst feeling i think you can go through. I suffered from them for about 10 years on and off and to deal with them i first went down the line of medication, but i found that this only masked the problem and i never really learned how to deal with/cure them. I recently started doing the linden method which has made me feel like a new person. If you google the linden method and look for some reviews you will see there are 100s of thousands of people out there with the same problem that have learnt to deal with these attacks. Hope this helps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭Meemars


    Jennikybooky, I know exactly what you are going through. I have experienced the same off and on from a pretty early age, and didn't know what they were until my mid 20's when I actually thought I was losing my sanity. Cognitive Behavioural therapy and a bout of medication helped me get through the resulting depression, and general insight and keeping an eye on myself has helped to (kind of) keep them at bay.
    Now that i know how to spot the early signs I can usually get myself around it without getting overwhelmed.
    I hope this doesn't sound too hippyish, but Chamomile tea, Kalms and above all Rescue Remedy have gotten me through some very hairy moments.
    Good luck, and remember to breathe deep!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Liz Kaye


    I used to get them all the time, and a good therapist suggested the 7/11 approach (breathing technique). Basically you inhale for 7 seconds and exhale slowly for 11 seconds. Simple but incredibly effective! Apparently the slow exhale is to whoosh around the hormone adrenalin thats built up by the attack and escort it from your circulatory system...works really well!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭DarkSeraphim


    I've had panic attacks since i was 16. I am now just going on 25. They are so bad and compliated that it is so hard to explain how you feel when having one. Its like you wish you could have all your friends and family experience it just once just so they can understand what it is like and what you are going through at time (obviously i wouldn't wish this on anybody)

    I used to get them all the time but not so much anymore.. i tend to get bouts of weirdness like anxiety. I would say i am down to about two panic attacks a year which is awesome. I have learned to control them with distraction.

    A good few years back when i got them all the time they were so bad i thought i would have to be hospitalised. I find that most peoples experience with panic attacks are different.
    Some people can't breath, they're heart starts pounding and they feel like they are having a hearth attack, some people start to sweat and even vomit.

    My panic attacks cause me to feel weird. Its a very unreal feeling. nothing makes sense and everything becomes very dark and scary... actually scary is not a good enough word.. more like Terrified, so bad that you'd rather be dead than feel like that. To be honest if it wasn't for the fact that they only lasted a few minutes i think i would be dead. There is no way on earth i could feel like that for an lenghty period of time.

    Even though i get panic attacks (happily not really anymore) i still don't have depression, i am a naturally happy person. 80% of the time i am feel normal (although many people think i'm quirky and far from normal lol) but normal to me and happy but when it comes to it other 20% when it is bad its bad.

    As bad as it sounds, its nice to hear other people are experiencing this too.. It was what helped me get over them when i was a kid, Knowing your not the only one and that you are not going crazy, when i was younger i constantly thought i was losing my mind, that i would snap. I used to have anxiety from one panic attack to the next. I would have panic attacks over the fear of having another one.

    I always wished there was a group thing where panic attack / Panic disorder suffers could meet up .. kinda like AA lol..

    Is there any?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭neil_18_


    I've only had one and it was a few months ago. I had chest pain, couldn't breathe at all my throat completely closed up (well it felt like it anyway), it was horrible i wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I havent had one since but i always fear another one (kind of ironic seeing as anxiety brings them on! :rolleyes:)

    Hope you overcome them soon! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    My panic attacks cause me to feel weird. Its a very unreal feeling. nothing makes sense and everything becomes very dark and scary... actually scary is not a good enough word.. more like Terrified, so bad that you'd rather be dead than feel like that.


    Ok quoted that part of your post as it's relevant to my mate.


    A friend of mine...well not really a friend just a lad I've met through college...confided in me that he has started having panic attacks. Just around New Years. He is completely freaked out by it all.

    He's been to the doctors and they don't have him on medication.
    Instead they have told him to stop smoking and drinking and eat healthy.
    In fairness he does drink alot and smokes (both regular and illegal substances).

    I've always noticed him to be a very twitchy person, he can't sit still or relax at all. So this all may have been a lead up to these attacks.
    I don't think the doctor has given him much information on it. He's afraid of in his words going "mental".
    The college has exams coming up now and not sure how he will cope during them. He doesn't have a problem with stressing over exams or anything like that...it's just these seem to come along all the time now.

    Just wondering...what do I do if he has a panic attack when I am there?
    How do I help him out of it???
    I quoted another poster here as it's similar to what my friend has said.
    He feels really weird and spaced out in a horrible way. That's the part he keeps going on about. I don't know if he has the sweating/increased heart rate issue as well.

    He isn't quiet, has no trouble if people speak to him, no trouble going up to random strangers and asking for a light or chatting dolls up.
    I'm sure there are other under lying issues from the past or God knows what.
    Will give him the bits of info I got from this and some links anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Jennikybooky


    Lugus - I did some research on the linden method and the website put me right off. It really gives the hard sell - telling you that is has cured thousands of people and not really saying anything about what the method involves etc.

    Recently anyway things have gotten a bit out of hand - I often have panic attacks but it has escalated to the point where I avoid certain situations like the plague because I am TERRIFIED of having a panic attack eg in a restaurant, at someone's house for dinner etc. It's like my brain has started to associate certain situations with a panic attack.

    And do you know what the worst part is? The way you have to keep it like a dirty shameful secret because people will only think you are a mentaller! So I have started making excuses to avoide the aforementioned situations ie it is actively ruining my life! Jaysus - me nerves!

    Meemars - I've done a bit or research and have come to the conclusion that cognitive behavioral therapy is the way forward!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Liz Kaye


    ToniTuddle wrote: »
    Ok quoted that part of your post as it's relevant to my mate.


    A friend of mine...well not really a friend just a lad I've met through college...confided in me that he has started having panic attacks. Just around New Years. He is completely freaked out by it all.

    He's been to the doctors and they don't have him on medication.
    Instead they have told him to stop smoking and drinking and eat healthy.
    In fairness he does drink alot and smokes (both regular and illegal substances).

    I've always noticed him to be a very twitchy person, he can't sit still or relax at all. So this all may have been a lead up to these attacks.
    I don't think the doctor has given him much information on it. He's afraid of in his words going "mental".
    The college has exams coming up now and not sure how he will cope during them. He doesn't have a problem with stressing over exams or anything like that...it's just these seem to come along all the time now.

    Just wondering...what do I do if he has a panic attack when I am there?
    How do I help him out of it???
    I quoted another poster here as it's similar to what my friend has said.
    He feels really weird and spaced out in a horrible way. That's the part he keeps going on about. I don't know if he has the sweating/increased heart rate issue as well.

    He isn't quiet, has no trouble if people speak to him, no trouble going up to random strangers and asking for a light or chatting dolls up.
    I'm sure there are other under lying issues from the past or God knows what.
    Will give him the bits of info I got from this and some links anyway.

    The handiest thing your friend can have in his pocket is a paper bag. If he's having a panic attack he is hyperventilating, just another word for breathing too fast and shallow. This type of hyper-ventilating can not do any harm at all to anyone. Its a throwback to our ancestors in the caves when fight or flight happened (dinasaurs etc!) and just involves too much of the hormone adrenalin, which stays in the body for only a short time. Breathing into the paper bag means that the rapid breathing (the fright/flight) slows back down to normal again. I do think the doctor is right to not prescribe any meds for him at the moment. I had panic attacks and the thrapist said that ONE glass of wine could trigger them. I didnt really believe it at the time, but gave it a go, ate well, didnt drink and got exercise and a few early nights and they really did stop...maybe natures way? Definitely worth a try anyway...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    Liz Kaye wrote: »
    I had panic attacks and the thrapist said that ONE glass of wine could trigger them. I didnt really believe it at the time, but gave it a go, ate well, didnt drink and got exercise and a few early nights and they really did stop...maybe natures way? Definitely worth a try anyway...


    That's about right!
    He is suppose to give up all junk food as well.
    He ate some Pringles and ended up having another episode.

    Diet does play a HUGE part in our minds health.
    Think all this has scared him enough to give up booze/smokes and such.
    Well for now anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Doge


    When i was suffering from them, a friend of mine made me a copy of an expensive program called "The Linden Method."

    Its basically 6 audio cds, a dvd and a book, that helps you conquer the fear of having them, and panic attacks are a result of the fear of fear itself.

    I found it extremely helpful, and havent had one since.

    Its expensive to buy, but its available on torrent and online if you feel you dont have the money to pay for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Doge


    And let me add also that this was during a time i was spending too much time in front of the computer, (at college and at home), i wasnt exercising properly,
    and because of that i wasnt sleeping properly either, because i wasnt tiring due to sitting down in front of the computer at night.

    Eating healthy, Getting Excercise and Sleeping are almost as essential as the Oxygen that we breath, and if we abuse those necessities, then of course its going to have negative consequences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Doge


    Lugus - I did some research on the linden method and the website put me right off. It really gives the hard sell - telling you that is has cured thousands of people and not really saying anything about what the method involves etc.

    LOL! One pm and 2 posts later, i just spotted that the Linden Method was already mentioned in the thread! Sorry about that.
    I automatically posted it without reading first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Pantisniffer


    My original attacks were trigged when I would be standing in line at a post office/bank or on esculators, even walking in the street / shopping mall.
    They have now progressed to when I am in the car (driving), when stopped at red lights or on a narrow street/road with opposite traffic also stopped.

    The symptoms are dry mouth, tunnel vision, sweaty palms, heart palpitation, dizziness to the point of wanting to faint.
    As a result, I have to plan my routes carefully and pace my approach to intersections so as not to be sitting at a red light for long.

    I have the air vents set to cold with fan on, window open and radio/cd with fast tempo music playing. My fingers have indentations from deliberate pinching with long sharp thumb nails to distract myself. I went to my GP last December and he gave me a prescription,.....to get a library book called When Panic Attacks. I wiped my arse with his prescription note and suffer on. Having trawled the web ( like we all do searching for answers ), I discovered that my condition is best discribed as agoraphobia.

    At least now I know how f**ked I am and there are many 'brothers & sisters' out there suffering the same **** :(
    The weird thing I noticed recently is that the symptoms are least if at all in the late evening (after 9pm) when its dark and little traffic out?

    Anywho,....big hugs out to everyone and if you see a male car driver stuck at traffic lights with Kings of Leon songs blasting, air vents on full blast blowing his hair wildly & screaming at the lights to change,....it might well be me !! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Used to get them for years - they were terrible. Used to be awfully shook by them. Used to smoke way too much weed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Pantisniffer


    Recently anyway things have gotten a bit out of hand - I often have panic attacks but it has escalated to the point where I avoid certain situations like the plague because I am TERRIFIED of having a panic attack eg in a restaurant, at someone's house for dinner etc. It's like my brain has started to associate certain situations with a panic attack.

    And do you know what the worst part is? The way you have to keep it like a dirty shameful secret because people will only think you are a mentaller! So I have started making excuses to avoide the aforementioned situations ie it is actively ruining my life! Jaysus - me nerves!

    Meemars - I've done a bit or research and have come to the conclusion that cognitive behavioral therapy is the way forward!

    Jenni,....

    That's exactly what the attacks do,....they use reference points from memory to trigger another attack when in similar enviroments.
    If you need a CB therapist based in Dublin city centre, PM me and I will forward details to you of a highly respected doctor based off Capel Street.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Pantisniffer


    dlofnep wrote: »
    ....Used to be awfully shook by them. Used to smoke way too much weed!

    There's your culprit dude !,....heavy useage of blow causes anxiety attacks plus other side effects.

    I find watching Prime Time's Miriam O'Callagahan with tv volume down low very, very relaxing! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Liz Kaye


    I tried to post a reply but timed out! Yes, panic attacks are awful but... (bullet points this time)
    Sleep well
    Get to the root of stress
    exercise and dont DRINK even one glass of wine the night before you drive
    Keep a paper bag in car
    Play predictable music (any old tune thats not highly alerting..I like Bagatelle...and sing along to the music. You cant have a panic attack while youre singing, you're breathing is regulated by the rhythm of the music
    Look up Claire Weekes relaxation CDs to play while driving
    Good Luck! It does get easier and does go away!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Pantisniffer


    Liz Kaye wrote: »
    You cant have a panic attack while youre singing, you're breathing is regulated by the rhythm of the music
    Look up Claire Weekes relaxation CDs to play while driving
    Good Luck! It does get easier and does go away!!

    Nice one Liz. I will try that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭20goto10


    hi guys,

    I really need to get my anxiety under control, it is destroying my life. I have downloaded the Linden Method package and after a couple of days I have to say I find it quite frustrating. He spends a lot of time talking about how this technique is going to stop anxiety completely, almost hyping it up and then when he finally does get round to actually talking about the technique it seems like a big anti-climax.

    For example, join a drama class. Eh no thanks. Or the one about confronting your panic attack, let it take over and do it's worst. Am I to do that in work as I'm standing up to give a presentation or taking centre stage on a conference call with clients? I just get the impression he has a different kind of anxiety problem to me.

    Could people who have used it successfully comment on the points which really helped them?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,175 ✭✭✭Doge


    20goto10 wrote: »
    hi guys,

    I really need to get my anxiety under control, it is destroying my life. I have downloaded the Linden Method package and after a couple of days I have to say I find it quite frustrating. He spends a lot of time talking about how this technique is going to stop anxiety completely, almost hyping it up and then when he finally does get round to actually talking about the technique it seems like a big anti-climax.

    For example, join a drama class. Eh no thanks. Or the one about confronting your panic attack, let it take over and do it's worst. Am I to do that in work as I'm standing up to give a presentation or taking centre stage on a conference call with clients? I just get the impression he has a different kind of anxiety problem to me.

    Could people who have used it successfully comment on the points which really helped them?

    In fairness, i didnt really bother with the book, or the 9 pillars,
    i just listened to the Audio CD's really.

    Was the part about joining a drama class mentioned in the book or something?

    I found the visualization techniques extremely relaxing and helpful,
    especially where he counts how long you should exhale,
    that really calmed me.

    I was pretty obedient, and followed his instructions exactly,
    i.e going into a private room, closing my eyes, getting my posture right on the chair etc...
    I also listened to them on headphones, which helps you focus more on the audio.

    When i felt more calm and positive, i decided to challenge my fears,
    by going about my business, into crowded public areas, and havent looked back since.

    Getting good exercise, sleep, and eating healthy is extremely important also,
    i cannot stress that enough,
    going for a walk alone conquers your fear of going outside,
    or even just negative thoughts of going out or whatever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Shelarusky


    hey i suffer from panic attacks any time i get stressed. My biggest problem is going on holiday. Once out of my environment I tend to freak out. No problem in this country but even the thoughts of going on a foreign holiday brings on a panic attack. My partner loves travelling and it is causing huge problems in our relationship. All i wanna do is go away on a foreign holiday but feel a knot in my stomach the thoughts of it, this then leads to a panic attack. How will i overcome this? Does anyone have the holiday problem? I always loved holidays as a child but after a bad experience 3 years ago I havent left the country. I really want to be able to go away especially to make my partner happy but how do i overcome this? Dont wanna grow any older and not tackle this. Im 29 now and dont want to live like this, feel its taking over my life. I have tried councelling and hypnosis but it didnt work, feel im clutching at straws now and need to seriously get rid of this problem, help!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭20goto10


    waveform wrote: »
    In fairness, i didnt really bother with the book, or the 9 pillars,
    i just listened to the Audio CD's really.

    Was the part about joining a drama class mentioned in the book or something?

    I found the visualization techniques extremely relaxing and helpful,
    especially where he counts how long you should exhale,
    that really calmed me.

    I was pretty obedient, and followed his instructions exactly,
    i.e going into a private room, closing my eyes, getting my posture right on the chair etc...
    I also listened to them on headphones, which helps you focus more on the audio.

    When i felt more calm and positive, i decided to challenge my fears,
    by going about my business, into crowded public areas, and havent looked back since.

    Getting good exercise, sleep, and eating healthy is extremely important also,
    i cannot stress that enough,
    going for a walk alone conquers your fear of going outside,
    or even just negative thoughts of going out or whatever.
    to be honest the bit about joining a drama class was only mentioned as a suggestion in the "Distraction" audio. I've read the nine pillars and the first 7 are irrelavant unless you are taking medical advice and tablets. I'm now on to reading his life story, with baby pictures and all. Ridiculous! I'm glad I didn't pay for it. His advice is helpful and I will try it out but there isn't enough to fill a book. It's basically find a distraction to feed your intellect and don't organize your life around your anxiety. By doing this you train your brain to think differently, to think in a normal healthy way. It's good advice I will certainly give it a go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 439 ✭✭minister poxbottle


    My original attacks were trigged when I would be standing in line at a post office/bank or on esculators, even walking in the street / shopping mall.
    They have now progressed to when I am in the car (driving), when stopped at red lights or on a narrow street/road with opposite traffic also stopped.

    The symptoms are dry mouth, tunnel vision, sweaty palms, heart palpitation, dizziness to the point of wanting to faint.
    As a result, I have to plan my routes carefully and pace my approach to intersections so as not to be sitting at a red light for long.

    I have the air vents set to cold with fan on, window open and radio/cd with fast tempo music playing. My fingers have indentations from deliberate pinching with long sharp thumb nails to distract myself. I went to my GP last December and he gave me a prescription,.....to get a library book called When Panic Attacks. I wiped my arse with his prescription note and suffer on. Having trawled the web ( like we all do searching for answers ), I discovered that my condition is best discribed as agoraphobia.

    At least now I know how f**ked I am and there are many 'brothers & sisters' out there suffering the same **** :(
    The weird thing I noticed recently is that the symptoms are least if at all in the late evening (after 9pm) when its dark and little traffic out?

    Anywho,....big hugs out to everyone and if you see a male car driver stuck at traffic lights with Kings of Leon songs blasting, air vents on full blast blowing his hair wildly & screaming at the lights to change,....it might well be me !! :D
    stay off de roads then yer gonna kill someone get professional help :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12 direct


    Hi

    I’d like to give some solid advice to you about panic attacks, and to the others here too advocating all kinds of methods!! There are many dead ends you can go down tryin to deal with this problem. I have a history of them and now I have dealt with them.

    Learning how to stop panic attacks is a priority for the majority of those who have ever experienced them. This is because panic attacks are emotionally, mentally and physically draining. Some have gone so far as to describe panic attacks as emotional nightmares.

    There are now simple techniques you can learn to help you stop panic attacks quickly and easily and eventually cure panic attacks completely. These techniques have been tested and proven through research and actual application to stop panic attack quickly and effectively.

    Now, deep breathing technique is one of the quickest ways you can use to stop a panic attack from embarrassing you. It enables you to calm down your body and oxygen flows to your brain cells which in turn makes you feel light-headed. The deep breathing technique is also called diaphragmatic breathing and is a very important technique to learn if you what to quickly know of how to stop a panic attack. The challenge now is when you are experiencing anxiety, focusing on proper deep breathing can be very difficult task. The deep breathing technique requires you to breathe directly from your diaphragm and is the type of deep breathing you do during meditation. This technique is simple and anyone can practice it when you begin to feel the symptoms of panic attack.

    I’ve included a link if anybody wants to really get to know more about these techniques and how to stop the panic attacks completely and for good. Its at
    www.endofpanicnow.com
    I’ve been there so I wish all those on the search the best, and I offer lots of optimism because this affliction can be overcome.

    Good Luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    There's your culprit dude !,....heavy useage of blow causes anxiety attacks plus other side effects.

    I find watching Prime Time's Miriam O'Callagahan with tv volume down low very, very relaxing! :D

    Aye yeah - Haven't smoked in years. Haven't got them since. It's mind over matter!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 shelly1234


    Hi Guys... i was starting to think i was crazy!!! got my first panic attack about 4 years ago...was sitting in traffic extremely hungover and all of a sudden i had thr most bizarre overwhelming feeling that i just wanted to get out of the car, leave it there and run!!!! it scared the living daylights out of me!!!! they started happening more regularly then esspecially when i was hungover!!! its the strangest feeling its even hard to describe but i too get them in the cinema, at restaurants, dentist, hairdressers (when i have a full head of highlight packets in my hair! and planes (worst ever!) and anywhere it would be embarressing to get them!!! its a horrendous condition but i have definatly stopped drinking as the day after i cant even leave the house for fear it will happen and u can be sure it will! they seem to have lessened a great deal though, maybe thats to do with stopping drinking who knows and when they do occur now i just think to myself "look, your not gonna die and you will get over this and breathe deeply, i always bring a litre bottle of water with me also anywhere i go because i find if an attack comes on i just take deep breaths and drink water and they seem to not be as intense! hope you find a way to cure this as its a horrendous thing to happen!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Dellygirl


    Hi All,

    I had my first panic attack last Friday and was really scared. I felt really anxious or nervous for about a week before & had no idea what was wrong with me. Similar to previous comments, I thought I was starting to lose my mind, felt kind of depressed too.

    I left work saying I felt ill only to get an attack when driving home on part of dual carriage way where about six lanes merge. I thought I was going to pass out and my vision went funny so eventually got to the hard shoulder. I carried on after I calmed down and rang my boyfriend when i got in home, the attacks carried on for approx 1 and half hours. In meantime my boyfriend came home & rang an ambulance (as my hands had completely locked in spasm at that point). Ended up in the hospital for tests and all was ok. Went to my GP the next morning and am since waiting to get in touch with a counsellor that the GP recommended. Doctor offered meds in meantime, but I am very wary of taking them as there are a lot of addiction issues in my family.

    I feel much better now, but for a few days afterwards felt very down and out. One minute would feel 'normal' and next would feel fine again. Strange feeling really, which makes me nervous about anything current in my life...

    Anyway, just wanted to put my thougts out there since this is new to me (at 29 yrs old)!

    Does anyone question everything in their life when an episode like this happens, or is it all part of it to feel a bit like things are falling apart??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭theredletter


    I don't think you need to 'question' your life, but yes, most people with anxiety problems do have a tendency to over-analyse their life problems in order to find a trigger. Most people, including you, can deal with basically anything that happens to them in life - simple as that. Your mind is MUCH more powerful than you realise.

    Good for you going to counselling. I presume you're on Xanax. Take them when you need a break, if you're conscience of addiction you probably won't become addicted, if you know what I mean. Remember, be sure to get Cognitive Behavioural Therapy in counseling. It is a form of counseling that is 94% effective against anxiety/ panic attacks. The other 6% are those who are unwilling to give CBT a chance or do not put the work in.

    Good look with it, and just remember:
    a) You are NOT going mad
    b) there is NOTHING physically wrong with you
    c) Panic attacks are just avalanches of adrenline - how you react to that adreniline is YOUR cognitive decision
    d) Thoughts affect feelings (sensations, both psych and physical) and in turn effect behaviour (feeling you need to jump out of the car).
    e) Hundreds of thousands have this disorder - it's completely treatable and it will eventually go away.

    DON'T waste your time/ money with a pscyhotherapist who will talk about your childhood and your relationships. If you need that too, then go for it, but remember the key to getting over this is CBT.

    R


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    I kinda put this in the wrong forum at first so i just copied it into this one alright?
    Yup, I get the old panic attacks alright, have done for years. I might be okay for a while and a panic attack will get me all of a sudden, always when I'm out, rarely happens at home, which I guess tells it's own story. I'll start to feel hot, my head especially, I'll feel my heart racing, my mouth will go dry and I'll have trouble swallowing, I'll start to feel dizzy and trembly, I think I can't breathe and I'll try and get a deep breath, which I can't and that of course just makes the palpitations worse, it's just a mess. All the while I'd be thinking 'Got to get the hell out of here! Gotta get home.'
    This kinda thing typically seems to happen to me when I'm shopping or something and waiting in a queue at the checkout, which just makes the panic worse coz you think everyone can see it and thinks you're a nutter. If I'm feeling a bit fragile (which happens when you're thinking 'I hope I don't get panicky like last time') when I walk into the local supermarket and see a long queue at the tills I'll walk straight back out again.
    What doesn't help, and I think it's because of all this, is that I've become agoraphobic. Also, I have had the odd epileptic fit. Now I gotta say that hasn't happened for what must be close to ten years now, but I'm afraid of it happening. Not the fit itself, I can feel it coming on before it happens and I know to be somewhere safe, what frightens me is that I don't remember anything for a good two to three hours afterwards. Total amnesia. I won't remember my name, where or when I am. The last time it happened, I was in Dublin, when I came to, someone asked me 'do you know where you are?' and I said ' the Hague'. (I'm from Holland originally) This is a scary thing for me, and it started off my agoraphobia, so now I simply hardly ever go anywhere on my own. I have days where I'm okay, and I think those are days where I'm feeling better about myself because I achieved something that day, or did something I've wanted/needed to do for a long time, or did something for someone that made them happy, or maybe I got praise or compliments from someone that made me feel good.
    This is why I think that it's all about my perception of myself.
    I know I'm a nice person, I know I'm a good friend who people can talk to and relate to, that I'm not bad looking and I'm capable and smart enough etc., but subconsciously, deep down, I guess I don't know all those things, I think coz I had a lot of bad **** happen to me in my childhood, which I won't go in to right now, but it was enough to rob me of my confidence and my trust in people.
    So there it is.
    The thing is, I can't really blame the people who hurt me or deserted me when I was a kid, partly because it serves no one, partly because they were messed up themselves, and also because I need to take charge of my own life.
    So for now, when I get panicky, I try to slow down my breathing (breathe into your belly, not into your chest, in 5 seconds, out 5 seconds), find a quiet spot, and I think: 'This will pass. It always does.'
    And it always does. Sometimes it takes a little longer, but it does pass. Hey if it happens to you, it's worth a try. And give yourself a little credit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Just something to add, when I do have a panic attack things start to feel weird, like I'm in a dream or something, a kind of slow motion where I feel I'm in a different world to the one going on around me, and this feeling is, for me at least, so similar to how I feel before an epileptic seizure that it makes it especially scary.. I have to remind myself of where I am and what I'm doing to kinda try and bring myself back down to earth, so to speak.
    The breathing exercises do help, but try to do them more regularly, not just when you're in a panic. Peace out ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 bubbles10


    Hi :)
    Up to a few years agom I was a very happy, healthy person. I drank regularly, smoked 20 cigarettes a day and generalyl loved life.
    A few years ago, following the birth of my first child at nearly 30, I developed Post Natal Depression,(please note, this did not include anxiety or panic attacks) To cut a very long story short, I decided to smoke hash as a way of giving me a "lift". Please note that all through my teens and twenties I had never tried any form of a drug and didnt agree with drugs in any forms at all, including hash.
    Anyway, I knew someone who smoked it dailly and I got some when I was at an all time low. I smoked it at weekends, (I was not a heavy user, only one joint). To be fair, I never had any problems whilst I smoked hash at all.
    But then my husband and I were introduced to someting called "smoke" from the head shop, which apparently had the same affect as hash. The "benefits" were that it was "herbal", "legal" and therefore presumably a better bet than the hash. How very, very wrong we were and I wish to this day I had NEVER, EVER touched it.:(
    The first couple of times I found that it was indeed a very similiar product to that of the hash. However, on this one night 2 years ago now, I found it had a very different side. In my head I could feel what what could only be described as "static" and "crackling" in my head and I was literally all over the place.
    Shortly after that, I started to experience a "wave" sensation going through my entire body, quickly followed by by excessive heart rate, tunnell vision, numbing to my face, severe burning to my chest, shoulders and even my head. It as so intense that I was completely convinced that I was having a heart attack and insisted in going to hospital. I was absolutely terrified, which was intensified by the fear of never seeing my child or husband again. Following extensive tests, it was confirmed that I was completely healthy and what I had experienced was in fact a "PANIC ATTACK"!! I didn'tt even know what these were and it certainly frightened the life out of me I can tell you. :eek:
    Following that night, I went into a terrible depression, having irrational and terrible thoughts, paranoia, stopped driving, cried the whole time and basically stopped having a life at all. I could not be left alone as I was petrified. I couldn't read any bad news in papers or watch any scary movies, (which at one toime used to be my favourite type of film). To top it off, our close friend died of cancer at just 35, which made everything worse.
    On the plus side, from that night, I gave up smoking, (of everything, including the cigarettes) and I even stopped drinking, despite the fact that I really used to enjoy having a few drinks. My life went completely on hold for weeks on end. I had continuous panic attacks and was full of anxiety every hour of every day. I also became a complete hypochondriac!
    I went to see countless doctors and I was eventually put on "lexapro" for a little while, to help me deal with things.
    A year folllwing that night, I finally gained control of my life, (or rather, I learned to deal with the panic attacks and stop them before they got out of hand!). I had another baby last year and things really began to look up.
    Out of the blue, a few weeks ago, the anxiety returned with a bang! Some of the symptons were siniliar to tat of the PND and having spoken to my doctor, I am back on Lexapro for a few months. I am only on them a week yet but last night, I had probably the worst case of anxiety / panic attack since my original experience. I woke up at 2am and it just came on and progressed to be worse and worse and worse! So bad, I yet again considered A&E! The burning in my chest and the numbness in body was unbearable. My husband was fantastic and I really don't know where I would have been without him.
    Right now I don't know what to do. It took SO long to overcome this before. Even today now I am all "jittery" and I have hot and cold sensations coursing through my body. I have my self convinced that I have caused my self some serious brain damage or similiar since smoking "smoke". I have not been the same since but for the sake of my husband, my 2 young children and of course myself, I need to try.
    Has anyone ever had any similiar experiences with "smoke"? I know not everyone is affected in the same way and our friends continue to smoke it without any problems. My husband didnt like the effect it had on him either but it never did that to him.
    (I know you'd never think it from the length of this post :D but I have cut out so much from my story)!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Heya Bubbles, your panic attack sounds different from my experiences, some of the symptoms are there alright but then I don't get the burning feeling or numbness. Having said that, everyone who suffers from panic attacks seems to, apart from some common symptoms, have a different experience.
    I used to smoke hash or weed fairly regularly years ago,( it's pretty much a national pastime where I'm from) but gave it up cause sometimes it made me feel a bit panicky, although I used to get the odd panic attack before I smoked, I just thought it didn't help, and giving it up didn't bother me.
    These so-called legal high's though, I'm not sure about them. The problem with them is that just because they're legal, that doesn't mean there isn't all sorts of crap in them, I've heard stories. I don't think though that your problem was caused by it, though it's possible that you had some sort of adverse reaction to what they call 'smoke', it's very unlikely that it would still be affecting you now.
    I think your problem is the extreme fright you had that first time, you're worried about it happening again, that makes you feel panicky and it just kinda becomes a vicious circle.
    Got a question for you, what do you think caused all this? I'm asking cause you can kind of lose your own instinctive feel of it listening to other peoples explanations you know?
    In the meantime, I think what helps is to do something that makes you feel in control of your own body, and feel healthier, something like yoga or pilates or something, yoga's good because the breathing exercises make you feel better and more in control, you can get a book from any bookshop or library, usually with an accompanying dvd so you can easily see how to do it right without having to go to lessons or something.
    Even just getting into a routine of just doing some exercises will help, it's really just about making you feel in control of yourself, because the big fear is about losing control. Maybe you know what I mean already. Lots of luck to ya anyway ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭MrSir


    I guess you could say I'm 'new' to panic attacks because I had my first panic attack earlier on in the year about 3 months ago I think. I've had about four/five in total. The first one only lasted a few minutes but it was so bizarre because I had no idea what was wrong with me and didn't know what was happening. Then I had a full blown one in front of my family I mean I was shaking really violently on the floor it was hands down the worst thing I have ever been through I just felt so ashamed.I guess after that though I was more ok with it and I'm not as weird about it but still there by far the worst experiences of my life. I don't really know a lot this so can someone please answer a few question for me. Thanks.

    Can anyone get panic attacks?
    Should I see a doctor or something about it?
    Does panic attacks have any links with depression or any other conditions of the sort?
    Is there anything I can do to help prevent or stop panic attacks from happening to me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    [QUOTE=

    Can anyone get panic attacks?
    Should I see a doctor or something about it?
    Does panic attacks have any links with depression or any other conditions of the sort?
    Is there anything I can do to help prevent or stop panic attacks from happening to me?[/QUOTE]
    Howya, in answer to the first question, yeah, absolutely anyone. Pretty much everybody will know someone who has or has had them. You'd be surprised how many of my mates said 'jeez yeah I used to get them too it was awful.
    About seeing a doctor: I don't know. Totally up to yourself. Your doc would most likely give you something tranquilizing and refer you to a counsellor.
    Panic can be linked to all sorts of things but lots of people just have the panic attacks, you wouldn't necessarily be suffering from depression or anything. You might be suppressing something though. Hence the counsellor.
    There are things you can do that will help, talk to other people about it, different things work for different people. Keep checking the forum I guess.
    Mostly try to relax, learning some breathing techniques helps because when you panic you start to breathe faster and that gets the adrenaline going and makes your heart beat faster and so on and that just makes you panic more. Don't go running from it, try to slow things down. Read some of the other posts. And don't feel like you're on your own. You're definitely not.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭scientific1982


    Oh lordy, it is so difficult to describe a panic attack. Its like everything becomes warped and in slow motion, you start sweating and it's like you are gripped with the most powerful and unbelievable terror you have ever felt in your life. At that moment, you would rather just fall down dead on the ground than be going through it. You can be going about your daily business and it can just strike you unexpectedly in the most mundane surroundings, and the next thing you know you are clinging to a supermarket shelf with a box of crispy pancakes in your white knuckled fist.

    Surely i'm not alone here? Has anyone managed to overcome this problem?
    Yeah ive had a few of them. Mostly due to college or work. Very unpleasant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭MrSir


    Johro wrote: »
    Howya, in answer to the first question, yeah, absolutely anyone. Pretty much everybody will know someone who has or has had them. You'd be surprised how many of my mates said 'jeez yeah I used to get them too it was awful.
    About seeing a doctor: I don't know. Totally up to yourself. Your doc would most likely give you something tranquilizing and refer you to a counsellor.
    Panic can be linked to all sorts of things but lots of people just have the panic attacks, you wouldn't necessarily be suffering from depression or anything. You might be suppressing something though. Hence the counsellor.
    There are things you can do that will help, talk to other people about it, different things work for different people. Keep checking the forum I guess.
    Mostly try to relax, learning some breathing techniques helps because when you panic you start to breathe faster and that gets the adrenaline going and makes your heart beat faster and so on and that just makes you panic more. Don't go running from it, try to slow things down. Read some of the other posts. And don't feel like you're on your own. You're definitely not.

    Thanks man I'm really just trying to get my head around it at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 bubbles10


    Johro wrote: »
    Heya Bubbles, your panic attack sounds different from my experiences, some of the symptoms are there alright but then I don't get the burning feeling or numbness. Having said that, everyone who suffers from panic attacks seems to, apart from some common symptoms, have a different experience.
    I used to smoke hash or weed fairly regularly years ago,( it's pretty much a national pastime where I'm from) but gave it up cause sometimes it made me feel a bit panicky, although I used to get the odd panic attack before I smoked, I just thought it didn't help, and giving it up didn't bother me.
    These so-called legal high's though, I'm not sure about them. The problem with them is that just because they're legal, that doesn't mean there isn't all sorts of crap in them, I've heard stories. I don't think though that your problem was caused by it, though it's possible that you had some sort of adverse reaction to what they call 'smoke', it's very unlikely that it would still be affecting you now.
    I think your problem is the extreme fright you had that first time, you're worried about it happening again, that makes you feel panicky and it just kinda becomes a vicious circle.
    Got a question for you, what do you think caused all this? I'm asking cause you can kind of lose your own instinctive feel of it listening to other peoples explanations you know?
    In the meantime, I think what helps is to do something that makes you feel in control of your own body, and feel healthier, something like yoga or pilates or something, yoga's good because the breathing exercises make you feel better and more in control, you can get a book from any bookshop or library, usually with an accompanying dvd so you can easily see how to do it right without having to go to lessons or something.
    Even just getting into a routine of just doing some exercises will help, it's really just about making you feel in control of yourself, because the big fear is about losing control. Maybe you know what I mean already. Lots of luck to ya anyway ;)

    Thank you SO much for your comments. :) The funny thing is I know everything you've said is right. I did get such a fright the first time and it really shook me up, (prior to that, you could have thrown anything at me that life produced and I'd just get on with it..........I was a VERY calm person) and yes, I am afraid of it happening again, (A family member seems to think that's part of my problem, the fact that I was so laid back in the past, this has REALLY hit me very hard). In fact, I find myself checking my pulse regularly, (stupid I know) and worrying now that any pain or ache is something far more serious, (agai, in the past I'd literally have to be on my deathbed before I'd consider seeing a doctor, now I have them plagued for nothing really I suppose :() Interestingly you've asked if I know what caused the first one? Well yes I do. My friend, (who I mentioned died from cancer) was in our house. He too smoked that stuff and he felt terrible after it, (he was a regular smoker of hash anyhow but decided to try this stuff with us). His cancer sometimes meant he suffered seizures and he felt as if he needed to go home and take his seizure medication after the smoke. Anyway, I got myself into an awful state thinking all sorts. Was he going to die in my living room? Would I be blamed as he smoked it in my house? Would I lose my child coz of it? Would I get into trouble. etc., etc., etc. This, I know, was the exact cause of the panic atack. As it turned out, my friend went home, slept it off and was grand the next day :D He was then worried about me as my husband was telling him about what had happened! He died later that month from terminal cancer, which shook me again. But apart from that, I kept reliving that first night and it freaks the **** out of me to put it bluntly. I still think about it and vividly remember it. I did however, learn to manage them and up until the other night, when I had a particularly bad panic attack, I have been ok. The anxiety seems to remain with me since that night and I keep thinking that something bad's going to happen to me and I'll never see my children again. It's very scary. As I'm speaking to you now, I still have that burning anxiety in my chest and left arm and, needless to say, I keep thinking it's heart problems. And as much as I try to put my fears aside, this keeps niggling in the background.
    Anyway, after my long winded reply to you, I would like to thank you again for your help and advice. I will look in to the Yoga and maybe take up a bit of walking or something as well.
    Have your panic attacks stoped now?? Or are you still battling them? Thanks again ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Liz Kaye


    Hi. I think you have experienced very "shocking" experiences to your system and its your body's way of coping. I would mention the smokes to your doc. Just as an aside, my friend had that contraceptive implant thing into her arm for 6 months. It triggered what i can only describe as an anxiety attack that shes just coming out of now, a year after its been removed. I think ingesting anything chemical can cause a toxic reaction. Take care of yourself, and DO talk to doc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    bubbles10 wrote: »
    Thank you SO much for your comments. :) The funny thing is I know everything you've said is right. I did get such a fright the first time and it really shook me up, (prior to that, you could have thrown anything at me that life produced and I'd just get on with it..........I was a VERY calm person) and yes, I am afraid of it happening again, (A family member seems to think that's part of my problem, the fact that I was so laid back in the past, this has REALLY hit me very hard). In fact, I find myself checking my pulse regularly, (stupid I know) and worrying now that any pain or ache is something far more serious, (agai, in the past I'd literally have to be on my deathbed before I'd consider seeing a doctor, now I have them plagued for nothing really I suppose :() Interestingly you've asked if I know what caused the first one? Well yes I do. My friend, (who I mentioned died from cancer) was in our house. He too smoked that stuff and he felt terrible after it, (he was a regular smoker of hash anyhow but decided to try this stuff with us). His cancer sometimes meant he suffered seizures and he felt as if he needed to go home and take his seizure medication after the smoke. Anyway, I got myself into an awful state thinking all sorts. Was he going to die in my living room? Would I be blamed as he smoked it in my house? Would I lose my child coz of it? Would I get into trouble. etc., etc., etc. This, I know, was the exact cause of the panic atack. As it turned out, my friend went home, slept it off and was grand the next day :D He was then worried about me as my husband was telling him about what had happened! He died later that month from terminal cancer, which shook me again. But apart from that, I kept reliving that first night and it freaks the **** out of me to put it bluntly. I still think about it and vividly remember it. I did however, learn to manage them and up until the other night, when I had a particularly bad panic attack, I have been ok. The anxiety seems to remain with me since that night and I keep thinking that something bad's going to happen to me and I'll never see my children again. It's very scary. As I'm speaking to you now, I still have that burning anxiety in my chest and left arm and, needless to say, I keep thinking it's heart problems. And as much as I try to put my fears aside, this keeps niggling in the background.
    Anyway, after my long winded reply to you, I would like to thank you again for your help and advice. I will look in to the Yoga and maybe take up a bit of walking or something as well.
    Have your panic attacks stoped now?? Or are you still battling them? Thanks again ;)
    :) Ha. I did go through a period where I kept checking my pulse too, doesn't help much does it? If it's slow you think it's too slow and if it's fast you think it's too fast. Also the worrying about simple stuff like headaches, I seemed to think 'brain tumour' quicker than I would tiredness or like, maybe, having spent all day in the sun, or watching telly for hours.;) Sounds ridiculous when you really think about it doesn't it? I do still panic a bit sometimes but not so much now, I seem to be better able to calm myself down through the breathing techniques, also, I think you got to be able to smile at yourself a bit, and reminding yourself of what you're doing, like, I'm out buying a loaf of bread and a carton of milk, not standing on the edge of a cliff.
    By the way, lots of people, when they think of yoga think they have to be contortionists, not like that at all. They all start out with very simple exercises that just get you to relax and breathe right, and that's the most important thing. Also it's just a bit of 'you' time, and that helps too. You don't have to spend hours at it either, ten minutes here or there or longer if you feel like it, easy really. Then before you know it, it becomes a routine thing like brushing your teeth and you'll be able to use that settling down routine when you feel panicky. The breathing exercises you can do while sitting on the sofa watching the box, what could be easier? Look into it, you got nothing to lose.;)
    Don't forget, it always passes. You always remember the panic don't you? Not when it left you. Think about that. Laters


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Lillian84


    Hi, the only time i tend to have panic attacks is when driving...especially on motorways. i feel like i have no control over the car, its a horrible feeling...does this happen to anyone else? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Liz Kaye


    Yes, used to happen to me too. And I did the obvious thing and cut down driving. In hindsight I think this was wrong. For example, I noticed when I HAD to drive, (work, collecting kids from school etc) I was ok (ish) but I preferred it if anyone else would drive. After several months I got the offer of a better job, but it involved driving on motorway, and I nearly turned it down. But, I set off, stayed in the slow lane, put on the radio and, took my time. Its taken me maybe two years in all to beat it, but I still follow the old pattern (earlier thread) of not drinking the night before, trying (!) not to be frazzled, and not being late. I bring those glucose sweets with me (chemists, about €1) and TAKE MY TIME. I think the reason I panicked in the very first instance was that I was in a hurry and got all frazzled, hence started a vicious circle. Good luck and take your time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭cgarrad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Goldenlady


    I got my first panic attack over 12 years ago, I was on my way to visit my Mom in hospital and just felt like I was stuck to the ground and couldn't breath, un real experience. Kept it to myself for ages as like all of ye I thought I was going mad - I have a friend who is a psychiatric nurse so it was great to have her to confide in and reassure me I was not going mad! I never really had a full attack again,but it turned into having general anxiety - always afraid it would happen again. Doctor put me on anti depressants for one year (I dont even take paracetomal so hated being on them) I struggled on. I too like others in this forum went through phases of it being really bad, couldnt have anyone in the car with me for years if I was driving, as it always prompted an anxiuous feeling, but never had an issue being in someone elses car with a load of people. It did tend to be a lot worse if hung over, to the point the only thing that could cure it would be another drink (Changed from pints to bottles and this is now sorted, unless is an unreal session!)
    There was a previous post about someone and their fear of holidays, this happened me for 4 years, had a kinda panic attack or else just a real anxious moment on a flight and that was the end of my flying days for 4 years. Even the sight of a plane in the sky or on telly freaked me out! I was afraid I would get a panic attack in another country and for some reason thought if I did I wouldnt be able to handle it over there! I broke up with my BF for a little while and developed anxiety with driving through tunnels or over bridges. To me it felt all about control, if I thought something could go wrong I would over analyse everything and drive myself mad.
    So basically, last year I turned 30 and decided I wasnt putting up with it any more! :) I booked a holiday with my BF to Turkey for 2 weeks, flew to Dublin for a concert with the girls, flew to Amsterdam with my BF for a long week end and have just come back from Portugal this year. I will bring as many people i need to in my car, and drive over bridges and through tunnels. I didnt take any medication or read any books, I just changed my outlook and decided that I'm not letting things freak me out any longer.
    Thankfully, I have only felt really anxious once in almost a year and a half and that was from a hangover following a wedding.
    Most of my friends knew I feared flying but didnt know about the general anxiety I suffered from, they all laugh now at the fact I just started flying again, having had nitemares for years about it.
    Sorry for the long post and its probably not even helpful to anyone, but I just wanted to share my story and how I overcame my anxiety. I do feel that Im very positive in general and I do exercise regularly and do a lot of running which really helps with the breathing.
    Good luck to everyone
    O.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Lillian84


    Thanks guys for sharing your experiences - i am so glad i am not the only one out there with this prob!! i really hope i can overcome it soon! when driving on a major road i just get so shaky and my body turns to jelly and i get to the point where i have to pull in on the side of the road, it is actually embarassing sometimes:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Lillian84 wrote: »
    Hi, the only time i tend to have panic attacks is when driving...especially on motorways. i feel like i have no control over the car, its a horrible feeling...does this happen to anyone else? :confused:
    Heya, happened to me a few times too, just wanted to say that when it happens, try slowing down and don't feel like you gotta hurry to get away from it coz that only makes it worse, it's kinda like running away and that's no good. Slow down and try to relax a bit and pull over for a bit if you have to. Does listening to the radio help? If a bit of distraction helps, get yourself a relaxation CD or something and listen to that, maybe that'll work for you. Other than that I guess just look at what other people said on here, different things work for different people. I wonder why it only happens when you're driving on a motorway? Kinda weird.. Must be a reason. Good luck to ya anyway, and be safe;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭SparrowTown


    Lillian84 wrote: »
    Thanks guys for sharing your experiences - i am so glad i am not the only one out there with this prob!! i really hope i can overcome it soon! when driving on a major road i just get so shaky and my body turns to jelly and i get to the point where i have to pull in on the side of the road, it is actually embarassing sometimes:mad:
    should you be driving in the interests of road safety?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    should you be driving in the interests of road safety?
    Should you be commenting in the interest of sympathy?
    I mean, jeez, she said she pulls over when she feels like that.
    Ya see plenty of people staggering out of pubs and into their cars, annoy them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭SparrowTown


    Johro wrote: »
    Should you be commenting in the interest of sympathy?
    I mean, jeez, she said she pulls over when she feels like that.
    Ya see plenty of people staggering out of pubs and into their cars, annoy them.
    it is illegal to drive if one is not well enough to do so. making a comparision with drunks is nonsense. suppose an attack hits her and she does not get time to pull over. sympathy for op won't be much good if she kills herself or others . she has an obligation to be fit to drive in the interest of road safety for all road users
    just get so shaky and my body turns to jelly and i get to the point where i have to pull in on the side
    suppose she causes an accident before the point of having to pull in. someone who is stressed to the point their body turns to jelly is not concentrating on driving.
    I have sympathy for the op but she should not be driving if it is that bad, even people with panic attack have to be responsible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭theredletter


    it is illegal to drive if one is not well enough to do so. making a comparision with drunks is nonsense. suppose an attack hits her and she does not get time to pull over. sympathy for op won't be much good if she kills herself or others . she has an obligation to be fit to drive in the interest of road safety for all road users
    suppose she causes an accident before the point of having to pull in. someone who is stressed to the point their body turns to jelly is not concentrating on driving.
    I have sympathy for the op but she should not be driving if it is that bad, even people with panic attack have to be responsible

    Are you a therapist? A doctor? Your argument is completely illogical and its feeding her problem not helping it. Panic attacks are simply misinterpretations of danger. The body/ mind goes into a fight or flight mode. The aim of this natural reaction is to keep the body SAFE not to destroy it. The person in question *thinks* she can't drive or is danger when she does. This is actually incorrect and it's something she needs to address. Her pulling over is a safety behaviour and it's actually supporting the belief that there is danger when there is not.

    Have you had panic attacks? If you have you'll realise you can and do actually maintain control. People with panic attacks don't kill other people, harm other people or themselves. This is scientific fact. Read up on your opinions before you harm the recovery of others. Complete and utter 'silliness'.


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