Cap 2 Repeat Results

sonofgod

The exams are all about exam technique ! Thats why there is such a good pass rate at FAE !! Students understand the exam technique a lot better in final year once they get past CAP 1 or CAP 2 obstacles! I'm sickened to hear that negative attitude from MA Long. It does not matter how you get there. You will still have the same letters at the end of the day! Prinz just hang in there!

Speedy2009

wheres the link for the results?

hooch-85

Fol84 wrote: »

I passed 2 but I had plan to appeal one of the ones I failed so I think I only have one to do next year. I'm a bit annoyed about it but I knew leaving the financial reporting exam that I'd messed it up. I just didn't get enough of it finished.

As for the few comments written to Prinz today. I'm actually disgusted at those people particularly Ma Long. I don't think its fair and I think you need to get over yourselves. Some people just aren't good at exams, myself included does that mean we shouldn't be aloud into the superior world of the CAI???? I have much more respect for people who accept that the exams are hard but they keep pushing themselves and keep trying. I also don't think the exams are always a true indication to how good an accountant is at there jobs. I've seen this with alot of accountants that didn't pass first time but are still excellent at there jobs.

Well said, i feel gutted for those who didnt pass, this whole system is a farce, id love to see how many qualified people would pass if they went back through the new system.. glad to have passed the two i had to repeat but im not looking forward to the nightmare that will be FAE.

Jamesw2

The Want: Appeal if you are borderline. Otherwise i reckon its a waste of cash.

To those who passed.. I salute you. Well Done.

One to go next year and I am determined to blast them out of it. BRING IT ON.

My bosses this morning were very commendable. They congratulated me and gave me the hope that Ill pass FR next summer. I am so lucky. Love where I work. Love the people. Love accounts.

ma.long25

Hang on there, i do not have a negative attidudrew

I was under the impression that this was prinz fourth attemp!!

I was wrong, if this is only your second attempt i would recommend you give it another shot and work on your exam techniuq.

If u fail in summer i would give it another go in autumnm, however if you fail again, iw ould really consider my alternative.

Your only fooling yourself, the amount f work required for these exams is immense and you still even havent finshed the FAE.

If you keep going on and fail in oth summer and autumn next year and attempts next summer. and pass.

The chance of u pasing FAE first time is very slim indeed.... jsut imagine the amount of work you will have to put in.... to obtain a ACA qualificaiton that has been significantly devalued.

Youll be kicking yourself after studinyg so hard and no being able to find a job!!

Im not been negtive at all i am a realist and will always tell it as it is no matter how unpleaent it maybe to here this news at the moment!!

There others jobs out there that pay well, that dont reuqire so much effort to do these exams....

So what is the point of doing them!! If you think tis the world to riches , u are wrong!!

PB1982

ma.long25 wrote: »

Hang on there, i do not have a negative attidudrew

I was under the impression that this was prinz fourth attemp!!

I was wrong, if this is only your second attempt i would recommend you give it another shot and work on your exam techniuq.

If u fail in summer i would give it another go in autumnm, however if you fail again, iw ould really consider my alternative.

Your only fooling yourself, the amount f work required for these exams is immense and you still even havent finshed the FAE.

If you keep going on and fail in oth summer and autumn next year and attempts next summer. and pass.

The chance of u pasing FAE first time is very slim indeed.... jsut imagine the amount of work you will have to put in.... to obtain a ACA qualificaiton that has been significantly devalued.

Youll be kicking yourself after studinyg so hard and no being able to find a job!!

Im not been negtive at all i am a realist and will always tell it as it is no matter how unpleaent it maybe to here this news at the moment!!

There others jobs out there that pay well, that dont reuqire so much effort to do these exams....

So what is the point of doing them!! If you think tis the world to riches , u are wrong!!

Ma long,

I really can't stand your posts. A) They are quite patronising They are difficult to read as your grammar is appalling.

There is a lot more to being a good CA than exam results. Professional communication plays a big part and I can't imagine a manager signing off on any letter or email drafted by you. You seem to have the exams sussed but by the looks of it you're far from the finished article and have no right to give such awful advice especially to Prinz, his determination is to be admired.

ma.long25

PB1982 wrote: »

Ma long,

I really can't stand your posts. A) They are quite patronising They are difficult to read as your grammar is appalling.

There is a lot more to being a good CA than exam results. Professional communication plays a big part and I can't imagine a manager signing off on any letter or email drafted by you. You seem to have the exams sussed but by the looks of it you're far from the finished article and have no right to give such awful advice especially to Prinz, his determination is to be admired.

I think we have a few guys who have their heads in the clouds, sure my english is poor its becasue im not spending lots of time correcting it.

So you would spend the next few years doing those exams even if u kept failing??

What about FAE's how amny times is he gonno fail them before he passes?? 2, 3 ???

prinz

ma.long25 wrote: »

I was under the impression that this was prinz fourth attemp!!
I was wrong, if this is only your second attempt i would recommend you give it another shot and work on your exam techniuq.

You were wrong.

ma.long25 wrote: »

If you keep going on and fail in oth summer and autumn next year and attempts next summer. and pass..

Have no idea what you're trying to say here

ma.long25 wrote: »

Youll be kicking yourself after studinyg so hard and no being able to find a job!!..

Oh I'll find a job alright, it won't be in accounting though.

ma.long25 wrote: »

So what is the point of doing them!! If you think tis the world to riches , u are wrong!!

I don't think that.

ma.long25

prinz wrote: »

You were wrong.



Have no idea what you're trying to say here



Oh I'll find a job alright, it won't be in accounting though.



I don't think that.

Why are u doing accounting exams if ur not going to do accounting!!

I think you are mad!! Ur better of doing the QFA's a nice general qualification and there very easy!!

Id say ull pass them first time so ull be ok!!!

Anyone else think prinz is a bit mad, doing accountancy exams and not wanting to go into accountancy??

prinz

ma.long25 wrote: »

What about FAE's how amny times is he gonno fail them before he passes?? 2, 3 ???

As many times as it takes

ma.long25 wrote: »

Why are u doing accounting exams if ur not going to do accounting!!

So I can get that slip of paper and devalue it a little bit more

PB1982

As long as he has the motivation he should keep going. I'm guessing he's in his mid 20's so still has 40 years of working ahead of him. Plenty of time to succeed. The CAI give you six attempts for a reason, in my opinion repeating an exam will make you even stronger in that particular subject compared to most first time passes considering they are mainly around the 50 mark.

In response to your head in the clouds comment, everybody is at different stages in their lives and have different goals and can make up their own minds. If you're not going to be positive just say nothing.

I stand by my comments in relation to your posts. I would be embarrassed to have them representing me on any forum.

Pisco Sour

sonofgod wrote: »

The exams are all about exam technique ! Thats why there is such a good pass rate at FAE !! Students understand the exam technique a lot better in final year once they get past CAP 1 or CAP 2 obstacles! I'm sickened to hear that negative attitude from MA Long. It does not matter how you get there. You will still have the same letters at the end of the day! Prinz just hang in there!

You are only baseing the high FAE pass rate on the old course. Just wait till next year and you will see how the ICAI are going to once again screw us all over!

ma.long25

04072511 wrote: »

You are only baseing the high FAE pass rate on the old course. Just wait till next year and you will see how the ICAI are going to once again screw us all over!

My point exactly, the ICAI main goal now is to stop the numebr of people qualifying becasue its devaluing the ACA qualification and one way to do this si to make exam very very hard, so that people give up and do something else.. thats the only reason

About 10 yrs ago my lecture told me the faes were known as the grudge only about 40% Ppass rate..

I think things are going back to the way they were which is a good thing.

There has been a dumbing down of leaving cert grades, colledge grades and ACA qualification.

Its about time this was stopped as it benefits nobody in society... as its is now very difficult to tell the differnce between average people and good people...

If pass rate for cap 2 and fae dropped to about 40% or less this would show that the people who pass first time are the smart ones and are more lieky to get a good job!!!

in my opinion the difficulty of the exams is a good mechanism for seperating the wheat from the chaff....

Fol84

I completely agree with PB1982.

TBH Ma Long I don't think your in a position to decided what is or isn't a waste of prinz's time.

Your comments don't come across as realist they reek of smugness and superiorite. There is not an ounce of sympathy or compassion.

I'm impressed that prinz took your comments on the chin and could see them for what they were.

As for the ACA qualification. It’s a highly recognised qualification that would be useful in a number careers, it shows commitment, professionalism, a good knowledge of accountancy, tax and the business environment. I actually can't see job where this qualification wouldn't come in useful.

ma.long25

I honestly am not smug,

I know personally that im going to get a very good job.

I have a very good academic record, went to UCD got 1st, In big four and passed my exams first time.

I think its called reality...... and confidence that out of 100 ACA im proberely in the top 20%..

I'm not rubbing it in people faces but people on this forum have to face the facts...

Only top 30% in my opinion are going to get the Financial Controller jobs.. as the market is saturated!!

the want

ma long 25, get off this forum, your a dick, up your own ass, cant spell and have a high opinion of yourself. i can tell you, well done on gettin your exams, but with an attitude like that, i can safely say that you are the chaff. you wont get too far in life like that, i can guarantee you that. you are a statistic man, you know your books, but you have no streetwise sense about you. ah, god bless you son. i wish you luck

Fol84

I'm honestly delighted for you in your academic success. But I do not think that gives you the right to look down on those that have not lived up to your expectations.

one thing I'd like to address is the role of Finacial Controller is a management role. Which involves many personal skill as well as academic. If you plan to be as harsh on people as you have been on this forum I think you could burn alot of bridges. It will effect your promotions up the career ladder.

MrMatisse

ma.long25 wrote: »

I honestly am not smug,

I know personally that im going to get a very good job.

I have a very good academic record, went to UCD got 1st, In big four and passed my exams first time.

I think its called reality...... and confidence that out of 100 ACA im proberely in the top 20%..

I'm not rubbing it in people faces but people on this forum have to face the facts...

Only top 30% in my opinion are going to get the Financial Controller jobs.. as the market is saturated!!

I doubt someone who is semi literate will get a job as a financial controller.

its proberly not going to happen.

Pisco Sour

Really-Stressed wrote: »

I doubt someone who is semi literate will get a job as a financial controller.

its proberly not going to happen.

How on earth can somebody who cant spell get a first in UCD?!

MrMatisse

04072511 wrote: »

How on earth can somebody who cant spell get a first in UCD?!

Its called the quinn school of business:D

sonofgod

ma.long25 wrote: »

Hang on there, i do not have a negative attidudrew

I was under the impression that this was prinz fourth attemp!!

I was wrong, if this is only your second attempt i would recommend you give it another shot and work on your exam techniuq.

If u fail in summer i would give it another go in autumnm, however if you fail again, iw ould really consider my alternative.

Your only fooling yourself, the amount f work required for these exams is immense and you still even havent finshed the FAE.

If you keep going on and fail in oth summer and autumn next year and attempts next summer. and pass.

The chance of u pasing FAE first time is very slim indeed.... jsut imagine the amount of work you will have to put in.... to obtain a ACA qualificaiton that has been significantly devalued.

Youll be kicking yourself after studinyg so hard and no being able to find a job!!

Im not been negtive at all i am a realist and will always tell it as it is no matter how unpleaent it maybe to here this news at the moment!!

There others jobs out there that pay well, that dont reuqire so much effort to do these exams....

So what is the point of doing them!! If you think tis the world to riches , u are wrong!!

I'm sorry it I offended you Ma Long. But you are very discouraging / 'no can do attitude' which is needed for this profession to people that have the ability to be a ACA accountant. I do not know their personal circumstances / other interests. Some of us have a life outside of work and study. I play sport which makes it all the more difficult to get balance in my work / study / social life / sport.

sonofgod

04072511 wrote: »

You are only baseing the high FAE pass rate on the old course. Just wait till next year and you will see how the ICAI are going to once again screw us all over!

I'm not sure, but I have to pass one next summer. I'm fairly happy that a change in exam technique helped me pass 3 as to failing 4 in the summer. If I can repeat the process, I can pass. I found it quite tough to pass the other 3 since I was borderline pass. I'm just hoping at present, when I pass the Financial reporting in the summer. That all this hard work will stand to me in the FAEs and can pass it in one attempt since the repeat 'do it again' is 12 months away. And I understand the exam technique alot better to pass exams in one busy week. I might even try to maximise my scores!!

Jamesw2

Any advice from those who passed? How did you do it? What ques did you do first etc...

Gonna start studying again after Christmas. This is such a long P.I.T.A. paper.

maddogcollins

Jamesw2 wrote: »

Any advice from those who passed? How did you do it? What ques did you do first etc...

Gonna start studying again after Christmas. This is such a long P.I.T.A. paper.

Cant really give much advice but i managed to get 50% on the button! I did section B first. That way i could do them in my own time and not be under pressure at the end. I think this got me the few percent i needed. I did the opposite way in the first attempt.

Section A is long and very easy confuse yourself. Then you are stressed going into section B. You may also be short time. Normally easier to pick up the "easy" marks first without stressing out.

Hope that helps!

PB1982

I also scraped through with 50%, I think leaving the case study until last is the way to go.

If you can spare the cash I'd recommend the Chartered Grind School.

I cannot see next summer's paper being as bad as this Autumn.

Jamesw2

Thanks

prinz

Yep thanks for that. That's going to be my focus now.

prinz

Has anyone who failed a CAP2 repeat exam heard anything from the institute? I thought there'd be something in with the results but there's nothing, have sent an email away too but no reply. Don't have a clue about lectures / costs / enrolling back into CAP2.

ITs_rule

hi guys,

I will be sitting the papers next june and I wanted to ask you a favour.

What two pieces of advice would give to me, given the fact you've being through it.

J

rover84

Jamesw2 wrote: »

Any advice from those who passed? How did you do it? What ques did you do first etc...

Gonna start studying again after Christmas. This is such a long P.I.T.A. paper.

Id strongly recommend going through some of the CPA and ACCA papers, particularly the consolidation and cashflow questions. I found this to be a good idea because when I was going through the CAP2 past papers again for the repeat, I could remember the solutions from studying the papers in the summer so wasnt really testing my knowledge properly by doing that.

CPA and ACCA Papers are also good for testing your knowledge of the standards when making notes to the FS in the consol question.

Id recommend doing the Case Study first as I think it is the question you should have prepared for most coming into the exam and also if done first, you will therefore know that you have at least attempted to get most of the marks available when youre stuck for time near the end.