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Clonmel back in the day.

  • 15-11-2009 12:03pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭


    I was thinking about the shops and buildings around Clonmel back in the day.I was thinking of current shops/buildings,trying to remember what was there before.Delvins/Binchys..now its Easons.There was a hardware shop across the road called Boyds.[ if I am right ].How many here would know where to go if I said I will meet you at Sheila's corner,or below at the Black Rock?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    DT100 wrote: »
    I was thinking about the shops and buildings around Clonmel back in the day.I was thinking of current shops/buildings,trying to remember what was there before.Delvins/Binchys..now its Easons.There was a hardware shop across the road called Boyds.[ if I am right ].How many here would know where to go if I said I will meet you at Sheila's corner,or below at the Black Rock?
    My mother used to bring me to the Black Rock to see Santa.:)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    DT100 wrote: »
    I was thinking about the shops and buildings around Clonmel back in the day.I was thinking of current shops/buildings,trying to remember what was there before.Delvins/Binchys..now its Easons.There was a hardware shop across the road called Boyds.[ if I am right ].How many here would know where to go if I said I will meet you at Sheila's corner,or below at the Black Rock?


    Sheila's I remember well but don't know where the Black Rock is.

    I remember when Quinnsworth used to have a restuarant attached to it with the enterence just off Gladstone street.

    I remember when my dad had a music shop (MacEgan Music) beside Sutton (seeds?), a general hardware store.The shop closed and Suttons became the Allegro which in turn became McDonalds.

    lots of memories :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 I Love Tea


    Hearing all those names brings back some great memories.I would remember all the places mentioned so far except the "Black Rock"

    A lot of great places have gone likes the Clonmel Arms,Dick's Deli,Billy Gibb's pub,Mattasa's chipper,Burkes Bacon,The Market Tavern to name but a few


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Ahhh, Mattasa's chips...wonderful :)

    I used to see Santa at the side of Dunnes Stores hardware store at Oakville.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    The Black Rock used to be in the narrow st where game stop is now I think,I had some good nights in Billy Gibbs pub and the Market Tavern.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    tippspur wrote: »
    The Black Rock used to be in the narrow st where game stop is now I think,I had some good nights in Billy Gibbs pub and the Market Tavern.

    GameStop is on the corner right? I think that that used to be the Knocknagow bookshop (on Mitchel street).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭Reginald P. DuM


    Ah yea, Suttons on Gladstone Street!! Blast from the past. I wasn't aware of the Black Rock either. Sheila's corner is well known. Some things change, others never. Exhibit A: Floods!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,640 ✭✭✭cml387


    I've said to people,and they don't believe me,that there was a previous incarnation of KFC in the building that was the ESB offices and is now Menari's. This would be back in the late 80's. Does anyone remeber.

    And Wrixon's pub,now a card shop I think.That was a nice spot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭DT100


    I remember KFC being there...and Wrixons was a great spot.The Market a Tavern reminded me of Macs Tavern o' Connell street which became Barry's bar / nightclub.Ah..Bill Gibbs...it used to be the Gladstone Arms.I remember a pub called the savoury club....I think it may have been before the Gladstone Arms.The Horseman was where Paddy Power's betting shop is now...Morans of Parnell street used to be Paddy O' Gormans...the pool,jukebox and the fire.Where the office is now used to be Gerard's at one stage...Kate Ryans was the Jetset once I think....I cant recall what it was before that.The Clonmel Arms was a great spot in the 80's....the Gate music bar..and Gidea park nightclub.Think it was the Mike Barry video disco before that.Who remembers McGowans on the davis road...where the Greyhound is now.It is manys the fine pint I had in Phelans..where Sean Tierneys is now....after that pub crawl I need a drink..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    DT100 wrote: »
    I remember KFC being there...and Wrixons was a great spot.The Market a Tavern reminded me of Macs Tavern o' Connell street which became Barry's bar / nightclub.Ah..Bill Gibbs...it used to be the Gladstone Arms.I remember a pub called the savoury club....I think it may have been before the Gladstone Arms.The Horseman was where Paddy Power's betting shop is now...Morans of Parnell street used to be Paddy O' Gormans...the pool,jukebox and the fire.Where the office is now used to be Gerard's at one stage...Kate Ryans was the Jetset once I think....I cant recall what it was before that.The Clonmel Arms was a great spot in the 80's....the Gate music bar..and Gidea park nightclub.Think it was the Mike Barry video disco before that.Who remembers McGowans on the davis road...where the Greyhound is now.It is manys the fine pint I had in Phelans..where Sean Tierneys is now....after that pub crawl I need a drink..
    the Mike Barry video disco,fcuk me:)I remember my father used to drink in Phelans while the Mother was out shopping on Saturdays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    Ponster wrote: »
    Sheila's I remember well but don't know where the Black Rock is.

    I remember when Quinnsworth used to have a restuarant attached to it with the enterence just off Gladstone street.

    I remember when my dad had a music shop (MacEgan Music) beside Sutton (seeds?), a general hardware store.The shop closed and Suttons became the Allegro which in turn became McDonalds.

    lots of memories :)

    I'm only 19 but I remember Binchy's before Easons, was in there a few times!

    Also wasn't 'Burgerland' in between Allegro and McDonalds?
    I Love Tea wrote: »
    Hearing all those names brings back some great memories.I would remember all the places mentioned so far except the "Black Rock"

    A lot of great places have gone likes the Clonmel Arms,Dick's Deli,Billy Gibb's pub,Mattasa's chipper,Burkes Bacon,The Market Tavern to name but a few

    Dick's Deli's, felt like it was around for years!
    cml387 wrote: »

    And Wrixon's pub,now a card shop I think.That was a nice spot.

    Now Hallmark isn't it?

    Great idea for a thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 lockie83


    Ah Dick's Deli, the NICEST colesaw and Potato Salad this town has EVER seen and Dick was a gent aswell, It is sadly missed in town :(


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    I never know that it had closed until this thread....

    When I worked in town I'd get a ham salad roll almost daily. I loved the way that if you didn't get a fork you had no way possible of eating it.

    And the potato salad.....simply wonderful.

    I guess Irish towns are well on their way to becoming shells mush like many in the UK with the loss of small commerces such as Dicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    Ponster wrote: »
    I never know that it had closed until this thread....

    It's been closed for a number of years now.

    The whole mall is a shell of its former self imo.

    I've heard that it's supposed to be closing down, only rumours though.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Oh well..... we could always bring Woolworths back :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 lockie83


    It's been closed for a number of years now.

    The whole mall is a shell of its former self imo.

    I've heard that it's supposed to be closing down, only rumours though.


    No you are correct, now that Golden Discs have moved out there are no internal stores opened in there so its now closed with only Connollys and the Newsagent operating from the front units. You can't even use it as a shortcut to walk around any more :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    Years ago, I worked in Clonmel.

    Clonmel Arms Hotel every thursday night was a date.
    Got to know a woman who worked in Allied Irish Bank in the Arms.
    Married she was - great times though.

    Phil Carrolls pub, Gerry Chawkes, Mulcahys were the drinking pubs back in the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭Reginald P. DuM


    hinault wrote: »
    Years ago, I worked in Clonmel.

    Clonmel Arms Hotel every thursday night was a date.
    Got to know a woman who worked in Allied Irish Bank in the Arms.
    Married she was - great times though.

    Phil Carrolls pub, Gerry Chawkes, Mulcahys were the drinking pubs back in the day.

    D'arms is closed now, as as we speak it's probably under 4 foot of dirty river water. Phil's, Chawkes and Mul's still going strong however. Though he was getting no business in Danno's, the club above Mul's so now it's pretty much closed. Opens the very odd night I think. Some waste of a good venue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    D'arms is closed now, as as we speak it's probably under 4 foot of dirty river water. Phil's, Chawkes and Mul's still going strong however. Though he was getting no business in Danno's, the club above Mul's so now it's pretty much closed. Opens the very odd night I think. Some waste of a good venue.

    nice one.
    good to hear that those places are still busy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,640 ✭✭✭cml387


    Remember the murals in Quinsworth,featuring photographs of shoppers and a self portrait of Bobby Ballagh (looking a lot like Gerry Adams, i always thought).
    This was a reference to Ballagh's paintings which hung in the hotel that was originally on the site of Quinnsworth.
    The paintings can still be seen in the town museum.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Had forgottern all about them actually and never imagined that they could be seen again !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭DT100


    hinault wrote: »
    Years ago, I worked in Clonmel.



    Clonmel Arms Hotel every thursday night was a date.

    Got to know a woman who worked in Allied Irish Bank in the Arms.

    Married she was - great times though.



    Phil Carrolls pub, Gerry Chawkes, Mulcahys were the drinking pubs back in the day.



    Thursday was a great night to go out....I often went to Larkins hotel,which is now Fennessy's hotel.Ken and Dom used to play there.AH...the Arms...I can still smell the smoke from the fire,it always seemed to fill the room.Then there was beatty's on Gladstone street,which became Looneys and than Powers.I can even remember the uniform the ladies wore in Woolworths...and some of them wore them wellStill on O'Connell street,there was a record store called Deck 1...after that it became a wool shop.Moving up the street to where Lifestyle sports are now was Winstons,which later became Bradys electrical store...a little further up,to where the chinese takeaway is..across from Hackett's bookies...there was a chippie called the Caraway...a radio station in the west gate.Other shops that come to mind are the punnet,which was across from where easons is now,and Lowerys...a hardware shop...I am not sure where that was.Watching MTV USA in Muls on a sunday afternoon was always good.I must go now...I have to meet a lass from woolworths..we are going to the pictures at the Ritz....maybe get a cone at Redmonds on the way home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    It's been closed for a number of years now.

    The whole mall is a shell of its former self imo.

    I've heard that it's supposed to be closing down, only rumours though.

    Didn't dick get cancer or something horrible like that.

    Dont know how they made money as the sambo's were huge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Didn't dick get cancer or something horrible like that.

    Dont know how they made money as the sambo's were huge.
    I saw Dick lately and and he was looking grand,he is enjoying his retirement and lives just up the road from me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭rororoyourboat


    Great thread! My mam used work in Dick's Deli - The free rolls at lunchtime! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,640 ✭✭✭cml387


    Beside Phil Caroll's, there was a short lived pub whose name escapes me (could have had "legal" theme).
    It was short lived because of it's notoriety.
    It's been derelict since then (early nineties).Anyone ever drink there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 I Love Tea


    cml387 wrote: »
    Beside Phil Caroll's, there was a short lived pub whose name escapes me (could have had "legal" theme).
    It was short lived because of it's notoriety.
    It's been derelict since then (early nineties).Anyone ever drink there?

    Yea the bar was called "Harry's Court" it closed around 93 I think and has been derelict since although John Ryan used it for a while to sell his antiques from.I've a feeling we'll see that bar open again in the near future.I remember doing a gig there during the fleadh cheoil in 92. It was one mad place ran by a mad owner :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Harry's Court was a dangerous place from what I've heard.there used to be another pup in Parnell st a long time ago called ''the Cider and Bun'' I think it was a bakery and pub combined.great name though :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭quoteunquote


    I remember the under 18s Cidona discos in the Clonmel Arms. They were lethal! - people taking drugs, having sex, fighting...the lot! I remember them saying there'd be a foam disco on and there was great excitement over it. According to a friend who went to it, they had meant styrofoam. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    Anyone remember Barry's pub and night club ? The club was a bit rough !
    And how about the Minella hotel ?

    I remember also you could drive up mitchel st and park on one side ! ( Narrow st ), its barely wide enough to walk up.

    Nicky's Mayfair cafe and the Harp bar were also on it.

    Binchy's was by far the best toy shop in town.

    Showing my age now I think.

    Pity to say this but Clonmel down has been ruined by back hand taking planners and their landowner mates - there is nothing left to go into the centre for now - you've got Dunnes and M&S on one side of town, a Dunnes and Tesco on another, then a big retail park on the other end, while the town centre is a litany of empty retails stores - Tesco leaving killed the O'Connell Mall etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,640 ✭✭✭cml387


    Among the shops in Oakville there was a deli/foodstore that sold a concoction called "Devil's breath" mustard.

    Also "Read and Write" magazine shop,although Mrs. CML remembers it as "Read & Rob" due to the ease of lightfingering goods from the shelves. I hasten to add said Mrs. CML never did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    DT100 wrote: »
    I often went to Larkins hotel,which is now Fennessy's hotel.Ken and Dom used to play there.Then there was beatty's on Gladstone street,which became Looneys and than Powers.
    I Love Tea wrote: »
    A lot of great places have gone likes the Clonmel Arms,Dick's Deli,Billy Gibb's pub,Mattasa's chipper,Burkes Bacon,The Market Tavern to name but a few
    cml387 wrote: »
    And Wrixon's pub,now a card shop I think.That was a nice spot.

    My 'ol man worked in all of these pubs. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭DT100


    Any one remember Saint Marys disco in irish town..Fr. Doherty???..Tommy Mahers shop anyone???? The Oisin cinema?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭Reginald P. DuM


    Tommy Mahers shop!!!! I'm surprised you don't recall that now, judging by your other memories. The Oisinn cinema is completely new to me. Tommy's is still open, just under different ownership. McDermotts on the corner.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭DT100


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    Anyone remember Barry's pub and night club ? The club was a bit rough !
    And how about the Minella hotel ?

    I remember also you could drive up mitchel st and park on one side ! ( Narrow st ), its barely wide enough to walk up.

    Nicky's Mayfair cafe and the Harp bar were also on it.

    Binchy's was by far the best toy shop in town.

    Showing my age now I think.

    Pity to say this but Clonmel down has been ruined by back hand taking planners and their landowner mates - there is nothing left to go into the centre for now - you've got Dunnes and M&S on one side of town, a Dunnes and Tesco on another, then a big retail park on the other end, while the town centre is a litany of empty retails stores - Tesco leaving killed the O'Connell Mall etc.

    I remember the bus that used to drop people out to the Minella,and the bar b q's in the mid 80's...and the hung over Monday mornings...Ah good days,when the lack of a nights sleep didn't cost a thought.I mentioned the Ritz cinema in an earlier post which used to be where the credit union is now.There was a cinema where Heatons is..The Oisín????.Passing down the western road today,I passed where Doc Callagan used to be,and remembered the times I was waiting in his waiting room,and looking at all the trophies on display....As I went down toward town, I was trying to remember where Tommy Mahers shop was?????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭DT100


    Tommy Mahers shop!!!! I'm surprised you don't recall that now, judging by your other memories. The Oisinn cinema is completely new to me. Tommy's is still open, just under different ownership. McDermotts on the corner.

    I was thinking that it was there alright...but for some reason I was looking at the corner where the Local is...and wondering ????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭Reginald P. DuM


    Ya know where Melview is I take it!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭DT100


    LOL...I do..and could tell you some stories of that area...but I wont to protect the innocent....and me....:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Raggaroo


    Cooneys at the Main Gaurd !! Ma Brittons by the west Gate !!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭DT100


    Condons shop..where the town barbers shop is now,across from the tech school.Further down towards the davis road,theres a vet clinic there now afaik...That used to be Bill Purcills bicycle shop..which later became store 7/11...Around the corner there was a little grocery shop called Gleesons,run by Tommy and his wife.I remember you could buy single cigarettes for about 2pence..which were smoked in Bill Purcills yard:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Raggaroo


    Nelly Drohans shop near the high school sold single cigarettes and she would give you a light


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    .Around the corner there was a little grocery shop called Gleesons,run by Tommy and his wife.I remember you could buy single cigarettes for about 2pence..which were smoked in Bill Purcills yard..Done that would you believe.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭DT100


    tippspur wrote: »
    .Around the corner there was a little grocery shop called Gleesons,run by Tommy and his wife.I remember you could buy single cigarettes for about 2pence..which were smoked in Bill Purcills yard..Done that would you believe.:D

    :)..Yeah...about 4 guys smoking the one cig in Bill Purcills yard..What about the upper and lower Gavin's shop.The upper Gavins was near the main guard,the lower Gavins on Parnell street where Bergins shop is now.Going into Gavin's..seeing al those dinky cars...getting a roll of caps for the toy pistol,or a jet ball.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Viktor


    haha I miss Matassa's and Hickeys chippers. I hardlky ever go into the town center anymore, there just arent many of the old places left


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭DT100


    Hey ViKtor,did you ever have the belly buster in Hickey's..That was a fine feast.....:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Raggaroo


    Sparrow & Simpsons (Clonmel's own version of Fortnum & Masons) on Gladstone St where Boots Chemist is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭DT100


    tippspur wrote: »
    .Around the corner there was a little grocery shop called Gleesons,run by Tommy and his wife.

    Hey tippspur....did you ever buy a peggy's leg in Tommy Gleesons?...There was a shop just below the army barracks....I think it was called Mrs. Dohertys.What about Imelda's chipper on King street...many's the onion ring I had from there,after a few pints in what was Bremdan Dunne's....It is now the sows ear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Sure did get the peggy's leg in Tommys,I know that small shop your talking about just down from the Army barracks,often when I'm stopped at the traffic lights there I look across at that shop and think back.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    tippspur wrote: »
    ...,I know that small shop your talking about just down from the Army barracks,often when I'm stopped at the traffic lights there I look across at that shop and think back.


    I do the same thing myself. We always went to 12:30 mass at St. Peters and Paul's and 'cos my dad was an MP in the army, he'd stop at the south gate on the Davis Road for a chat while I went into the shop for sweets !


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