Alan Wake

PogMoThoin

Looks good, pity the pc versions being delayed (if ever)

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/alan-wake/1608

L31mr0d

It's amazing how quickly this game has gone from looking ground breaking to looking on par with current gen stuff. I remember hearing about this before Crysis.

I have high hopes for this though. I really love the Survival Horror genre but it's rarely supported and when it is it isn't done well. Dead Space was good but there was far too many weapons and armour upgrades that made you feel safer. A good survival horror should make you feel less and less safe as the game progresses.

PogMoThoin

So was I, I remember the promo trailer they showed with the physX tornado looked utterly fantastic. Seems technology has caught up with it.

Not liking this tho:

A Remedy spokesperson has since confirmed to Digital Spy that the firm is "currently working exclusively" on Alan Wake for the console and that any decision on a potential PC version now rests solely with publisher Microsoft Games.

5uspect

I really like the look of this game and I hope it lives up to at least some of the hype.
I'm a bit Twin Peaks fan and this game appears to have some of it's influences.

Read today that it may be out in may.

corcaigh07

the atmosphere is really special looking in this game, should merit a purchase, shame the developers are not getting a move on with it though, joke that it hasnt been released by now.

dreamers75

Why is there a lit area around the player? looks gay tbh its like they feel a Silent hill clone should have a magic light illuminating the player.

L31mr0d

dreamers75 wrote: »

Why is there a lit area around the player? looks gay tbh its like they feel a Silent hill clone should have a magic light illuminating the player.

What? in what clip? I watched the police chase one and there was never a glow around Alan Wake. The lighting is the main thing that looks like they have done a great job on, as well as the sounds.

Burgo

How long has it been in development? I remember hearing about this years ago.

leninbenjamin

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Not liking this tho:

amazing how they make it seem an issue of technology and nothing to do whatever with the growing aversion towards the PC platform with the mainstream publishers.

If it works on the Xbox, it works on the PC, all they need to optimise are small things like the render targets and that to utilize PC hardware fully.

L31mr0d

Burgo wrote: »

How long has it been in development? I remember hearing about this years ago.

I remember hearing about this game and seeing teaser screens as earlier as 2004, just after I completed HL2 for the first time. There was a tech demo at E3 05 afair.

I really thought this game was going to be released long before Crysis would. But here we are, 2 years after Crysis hit the shelves and still no sign of this game, and graphically, it may never live up the hype if it gets released solely on consoles which are running PC hardware from at least 2 generations ago.

dreamers75

L31mr0d wrote: »

What? in what clip? I watched the police chase one and there was never a glow around Alan Wake. The lighting is the main thing that looks like they have done a great job on, as well as the sounds.

Its dark out and you can see him, theres a magic light around him.

Kiith

It still looks good, but it has definitely lost its 'Wow' factor that it had when it was originally shown back in 04/05. I've lost some interest in it though, due to the 360 exclusive that seems to be happening. Would be a shame for Remedy to not release it on the Pc.

5uspect

leninbenjamin wrote: »

amazing how they make it seem an issue of technology and nothing to do whatever with the growing aversion towards the PC platform with the mainstream publishers.

If it works on the Xbox, it works on the PC, all they need to optimise are small things like the render targets and that to utilize PC hardware fully.

I think the first time I saw this game was when the first quad core CPUs were being released. They said that this would be one of the first games to really make use of 4 CPUs. Evidently things have changed and they only need three cores...

Myrddin

I dont think it has lost its wow factor at all, just forget these videos and go look at the supposed in game shots we were familiar with years ago, they still look absoloutley stunning.

The reason the videos look bog standard is because its running on console test hardware I would imagine. It has to stick to certain limitations, certain rules...which there would be far less of when it was being showcased on high end developer pc's first.

Unfortunately this is the way the game will look, restricted, standard. If it ever got a pc release, its only then we would see the true potential of this game.

PogMoThoin

EnterNow wrote: »

I dont think it has lost its wow factor at all, just forget these videos and go look at the supposed in game shots we were familiar with years ago, they still look absoloutley stunning.

The reason the videos look bog standard is because its running on console test hardware I would imagine. It has to stick to certain limitations, certain rules...which there would be far less of when it was being showcased on high end developer pc's first.

Unfortunately this is the way the game will look, restricted, standard. If it ever got a pc release, its only then we would see the true potential of this game.

The reason it doesn't look as good is that its got consilitis like every other multi platform title, dumbed down. Compare it to this vid which still looks amazing, even 2 years later. I want them to make the game they first intended

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV2AYoKc1u8

Mr E

I just watched the 2 police chase videos.... as a piece of narrative, it was terrific. Very exciting and cinematic. As a game? Not sure..... just looks like alot of running. When does the actual game kick in?

Myrddin

PogMoThoin wrote: »

The reason it doesn't look as good is that its got consilitis like every other multi platform title, dumbed down. Compare it to this vid which still looks amazing, even 2 years later. I want them to make the game they first intended

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV2AYoKc1u8

My point exactly.

L31mr0d

EnterNow wrote: »

My point exactly.

It still does look very good, even now. But it just looks like the next iteration in graphics rather than how revolutionary it looked back when it was being contrasted with the original HL2 (remember it didn't even have HDR back then).

The way it looks now it might just be the next step up from Uncharted 2 which has really set the bar in regards to what consoles can do, with some excellent examples of large draw distances and the atmosphere that can be created with effective lighting (i.e. such as the blue torches in the ruins)

Mr E wrote: »

I just watched the 2 police chase videos.... as a piece of narrative, it was terrific. Very exciting and cinematic. As a game? Not sure..... just looks like alot of running. When does the actual game kick in?

It's a psychological thriller more than a TPS. The idea of this kind of game is to keep the player on edge. Unlike most shooters the idea is to make the player feel severely underpowered, rather than making them extremely overpowered with armour and rocket launchers. I'd be happy if all they give you to protect yourself with is a pistol and maybe melee weapons. It's more about creating an atmospheric experience that you immerse yourself in then having the player run and gun. I'd imagine in between set pieces there will be a lot of puzzles to solve also.

5uspect

L31mr0d wrote: »

It's a psychological thriller more than a TPS. The idea of this kind of game is to keep the player on edge. Unlike most shooters the idea is to make the player feel severely underpowered, rather than making them extremely overpowered with armour and rocket launchers. I'd be happy if all they give you to protect yourself with is a pistol and maybe melee weapons. It's more about creating an atmospheric experience that you immerse yourself in then having the player run and gun. I'd imagine in between set pieces there will be a lot of puzzles to solve also.

Isn't one of your main weapons light? Some of the gameplay videos I've seen show the mechanic where your flashlight is your weapon against the evil forces.
Other screen shots show him with a pistol but I would imagine that would be for other things.

It certainly would be interesting if physical weapons were useless against the nasty monsters and instead you have to manipulate physics objects to illuminate areas etc. Nothing new really, but a good mechanic all the same.

Fnz

Looks like a very directed playthrough of a section - camera is always being pointed exactly where it should for the most cinematic shot. Player slows down at particular moments for the same reason.

L31mr0d wrote: »

It's more about creating an atmospheric experience that you immerse yourself in then having the player run and gun.

Hopefully there won't be too many boneheaded characters, like agent Nightingale, pulling us out of the world.

Myrddin

L31mr0d wrote: »

It still does look very good, even now. But it just looks like the next iteration in graphics rather than how revolutionary it looked back when it was being contrasted with the original HL2 (remember it didn't even have HDR back then).

Thats very true, it doesnt look as revolutionary as when it did when those shots were released. But you'd have to ak yourself the question, is that just consolitus, or our well catered for expectations.

MiCr0

the first mention of it on eurogamer is 31/05/2005 ;-)

Pushtrak

Pre-release review goodness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6KimrJVuK4

CCCP^

I heard about this game a few years back, just forgot about it. It does look good but jesus how long has this been in development?

Myrddin

Looks great, I had to stop that review at 1:50 though, that reviewer is, in my opinion, an absoloute clown.

Pushtrak

EnterNow wrote: »

Looks great, I had to stop that review at 1:50 though, that reviewer is, in my opinion, an absoloute clown.

Wow. One of those, eh? Its a joke, a parody.

L31mr0d

Pushtrak wrote: »

Wow. One of those, eh? Its a joke, a parody.

It's pretty bad. The guy just keeps on going, he's just saying words. I muted it after he said the 15th name of some bible game and just watched the footage

Cuddlesworth

L31mr0d wrote: »

I really thought this game was going to be released long before Crysis would. But here we are, 2 years after Crysis hit the shelves and still no sign of this game, and graphically, it may never live up the hype if it gets released solely on consoles which are running PC hardware from at least 2 generations ago.

Sounds perfect for a overdeveloped pc game, just move onto a different platform but the same hardware.

Pushtrak

L31mr0d wrote: »

It's pretty bad. The guy just keeps on going, he's just saying words. I muted it after he said the 15th name of some bible game and just watched the footage

Try it from 1:30. He actually talks about the game.

Edit: Well, in a not really talking about it way as is the humour in the vids. Also the humour in other videos are youtube comments saying how what he says is inaccurate as if he'll say "Oh.. My bad, I didn't know that."

Myrddin

Pushtrak wrote: »

Wow. One of those, eh? Its a joke, a parody.

Yup Im one of those...wow indeed. Wow that anybody actually listens to this fool, and wow that this tripe can be classified as a joke/parody. Wow. And from 1:30...he doesnt talk about the game, have another listen (not you L31mr0d, if you thought up to 1:30 was bad, its gets worse believe it or not).

On topic though, from wikipedia -

On August 17, 2009, Matias Myllyrinne, managing director at Remedy, claimed that Alan Wake is 'done', and is undergoing final polishing

- so hopefully we will see it soon. Why would they have shelved the windows version? Would it that progress on it was slowing down the whole titles release? Or would it be piracy concerns?

Mitch Connor

the torch effects look terrible.

PogMoThoin

Mitch Connor wrote: »

the torch effects look terrible.

Of Course, its the consolised fcuk up of what could have been a great game if they made what they intended at first

hooradiation

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Of Course, its the consolised fcuk up of what could have been a great game if they made what they intended at first

Oh great, this shit again.

It looks grand, and if "the torch looks crap" is the biggest concern the whining PC fanboys can level at it then i think this game will be just fine.

PogMoThoin

hooradiation wrote: »

Oh great, this shit again.

It looks grand, and if "the torch looks crap" is the biggest concern the whining PC fanboys can level at it then i think this game will be just fine.

Its not just the graphics, its all effects and physics
I refer You to my post in the first page of this thread, let them built the game they first intended, not this dumbed down POS
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=63004578&postcount=15

I was very excited once, but not anymore, meh tbh

Pushtrak

EnterNow wrote: »

Yup Im one of those...wow indeed. Wow that anybody actually listens to this fool, and wow that this tripe can be classified as a joke/parody. Wow. And from 1:30...he doesnt talk about the game, have another listen (not you L31mr0d, if you thought up to 1:30 was bad, its gets worse believe it or not).

Missed the edit, did you?

L31mr0d

Mitch Connor wrote: »

the torch effects look terrible.

The torch effects do look pretty bad all right. It looks like a laser beam or something. They really have no excuse as well being on the console. Uncharted 2 showed just how capable the PS3 is at lighting effects.

But what Pog says is right. Compared to what the PC version would of had, this game will have shorter draw distances, lower AA, probably zero HDR, lower res textures and will overall be graphically weaker in nearly every way.

I still keep Crysis installed on my PC that can run it at max settings and show console gamers when they come over how, even with a two year old game, the PC is still capable of trumping anything that consoles have come out with since in terms of graphics. Capcoms recent releases such as RE5 and SFIV look superior on the PC.

Even if it's a good while after the console release (such as GeoWI) I still hope they'll decide to release the PC version of Alan Wake in it's true form.

Retr0gamer

L31mr0d wrote: »

The torch effects do look pretty bad all right. It looks like a laser beam or something. They really have no excuse as well being on the console. Uncharted 2 showed just how capable the PS3 is at lighting effects.

Well the PS3 is a little better than the 360 at lighting effects in exclusives and this is a 360 exclusive.

People shouldn't be complaining that the game took so long to come out. The last game remedy made was Max Payne and that took over 5 years to come out (they made max payne 2 pretty fast but they already had the engine for that game). I do think it's a pity it won't be on PC though.

Myrddin

Pushtrak wrote: »

Missed the edit, did you?

Most people edit their mistakes out & rewrite what they want. Wow, one of those eh? Drop it Pushtrak - I apologise if you took offence at my comments about the reviewer. I meant nothing personally to you, thank you for posting the video, as I got to see new footage of the game. My gripe was with the "reviewer" in the video - not with you man.

Back on topic again - if they develpoed Alan Wake the way it was actually intended (leaps & bounds ahead of anything else), could it be a case than the current generation consoles wouldnt have the power to run it that way? Any thats why we have the now seemingly less impacting shots of the game - its pushing consoles to their current limit. Maybe they thought the console market was too big to skip?

PogMoThoin

Microsoft are the ones funding this game, they're the ones calling the shots as they've way more cash out of focusing on consoles and get next to nothing from a pc version. As strange as it sounds, Microsoft are the ones fcuking up pc gaming

hooradiation

I'd wager the rampant piracy by PC owners themselves have far more to do with it.

The concept that "<Insert boogyman here> are fcuking up pc gaming" as if they have nothing better to do than pick on PC owners for no real reason is childish nonsense.

If there was sufficient money to be made then they would supply that market, there isn't so they are not.

PogMoThoin

hooradiation wrote: »

I'd wager the rampant piracy by PC owners themselves have far more to do with it.

The concept that "<Insert boogyman here> are fcuking up pc gaming" as if they have nothing better to do than pick on PC owners for no real reason is childish nonsense.

If there was sufficient money to be made then they would supply that market, there isn't so they are not.

We've had this argument before, piracy is not killing the pc, greed is. Piracy is just as rampant on consoles, in fact the 360 releases usually get released to the torrent sites a week or 2 before release, long before their pc counterparts. In case You forget, that was only those that were connected when the update was released, there are loads more not updated. Some people don't update or use XBL.

This is for another thread though, topic here is Alan Wake, which could have been great and looks worse and worse with every update

hooradiation

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Piracy is just as rampant on consoles

No, it really isn't, not by any stretch of the imagination.
But if you're going to cling to that fallacy then I'm not going bother with you, you are free to believe that nonsense if you want.

Then again reality has a well known bias towards consoles.

PogMoThoin wrote: »

This is for another thread though, topic here is Alan Wake, which could have been great and looks worse and worse with every update

I disagree and i think your entire problem with this game can simply be distilled into "it's not on the PC". It's like watching a PS3 fanboy dump on a 360 only release simply because it's a 360 only release.

PogMoThoin

hooradiation wrote: »

I disagree and i think your entire problem with this game can simply be distilled into "it's not on the PC". It's like watching a PS3 fanboy dump on a 360 only release simply because it's a 360 only release.

Hold on, I have a 360 and thats not my point at all. I would have prefered to have played this on pc. Methinks You're trolling now

L31mr0d

hooradiation wrote: »

I disagree and i think your entire problem with this game can simply be distilled into "it's not on the PC".

Hold on. Before you continue down this ridiculous line of accusations, answer this question, if Alan Wake was developed to utilize, fully, current PC graphical technology and also Console Graphical technology which would be visually superior?

The argument is really rather simple and moot tbh. It's like saying which would drive faster, a Ferrari or a Ford Focus.

Naikon

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Microsoft are the ones funding this game, they're the ones calling the shots as they've way more cash out of focusing on consoles and get next to nothing from a pc version. As strange as it sounds, Microsoft are the ones fcuking up pc gaming

Simple solution: Boycott Microsoft products or pirate
the s4it out of Windows and other microsoft products.

Microsoft are not historically known for playing fair.
Gamers need to make a collective stand agaisnt MS.
The future of pc gaming depends on it.

The only metric that this company understands is cash.
Deprive them of their cash no matter how small == win.

SeantheMan

Tooooo much hype surrounding the game !

When it comes out, and I'll put money on it, It will recieve average reviews, will score between 65-84 %s

I find all the hype is due to the fact the game was announced so long ago, been in production for long, everyone always wondered when it would be released, and now that its finally here....it will be a let down.

The same thing if Duke Nukem had of been released, 10 years in the making, only never to see the light of day

Pushtrak

SeantheMan wrote: »

Tooooo much hype surrounding the game !

Probably so.

When it comes out, and I'll put money on it, It will recieve average reviews, will score between 65-84 %s

Above 80 is only average to you? Are you one of these only happy with above 90 games? I've played many games that got in the 6/10 territory that were a lot of fun. Course, I wouldn't rush out to buy one after seeing such a score.

SeantheMan

Above 80 is fine for me.

But what I tend to find in magazines etc and reviews, is that the reviewers care less when a game recieves lower than 90% (5 Stars, Gold Award etc)

Once its below 90%, it seems like whether they give it 72%, 78% or 85% is of no consequence, it just didn't get the Gold, and that we should not give it such attention as the rest.

I own and love plenty of games in the sub 90% category.

In saying that, out of the 17 steam games I have which are rated by Metacritic, only 2 are below 85% (DOD:S and UT3)

Ciaran500

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/alan-wake-x10-trailer-2 - New trailer
http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=4591&article_id=964921 - New screenshots

May 21st release, this year!

PogMoThoin

Pc gamers get fcuked over once again

Some games are more suited for the intimacy of the PC, and others are best played from the couch in front of a larger TV screen. We ultimately realised that the most compelling way to experience "Alan Wake" was on the Xbox 360 platform, so we focused on making it an Xbox 360 exclusive. Both Microsoft and Remedy have long histories in PC game development. This decision was about matching this specific game to the right platform.

Lame excuse, isn't the horror genre supposed to be played alone, not have your whole family breathing down your neck while You game in your living room?

Agricola

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Pc gamers get fcuked over once again



Lame excuse, isn't the horror genre supposed to be played alone, not have your whole family breathing down your neck while You game in your living room?

Lame? Horseshít excuse more like. In the game and film industry, decisions are only made for one reason, maximising profit. Yet another developer drops the pc version in order to focus all efforts on the console version cause thats where the moolah is. FFS. :mad:

I have a feeling it would have been like the first Stalker anyway. Noticeably dated straight out of the box.