Battery Hassle

fish slapped

Hi lads,

I plugged in my Deben battery to charge yesterday evening for a lamping session tonite, but when I tried it today the lamp is as dim as a candle, the charge light was out so I presumed it was fully charged.

Is my battery buggered???

What & where would I get to replace it??

FS

300winmag

fish slapped wrote: »

Hi lads,

I plugged in my Deben battery to charge yesterday evening for a lamping session tonite, but when I tried it today the lamp is as dim as a candle, the charge light was out so I presumed it was fully charged.

Is my battery buggered???

What & where would I get to replace it??

FS

few things,
cheque the fuse in wiring loom
how long since it was last charged
and did it charge fully or has life being getting shorter over time
you will have to identify if its battrie pack or charger
new charger 25.00 euros (deben)

G17

If the charger is producing the right juice (use a multi meter if you have/can get one) and it's a ni-cad battery there's possibly a way to rejuvenate them by zapping with a higher voltage device (like a car battery), this can be dangerous so proceed at your own risk.
Works a treat in my experience (on cheap drill batteries).

google rejuvenate ni-cad

foxshooter243

fish slapped wrote: »

Hi lads,

I plugged in my Deben battery to charge yesterday evening for a lamping session tonite, but when I tried it today the lamp is as dim as a candle, the charge light was out so I presumed it was fully charged.

Is my battery buggered???

What & where would I get to replace it??

FS

Its buggered id say!..seen another one buggered the same way, not charging it directly after using it does it.

johnner1

fish slapped wrote: »

Hi lads,

I plugged in my Deben battery to charge yesterday evening for a lamping session tonite, but when I tried it today the lamp is as dim as a candle, the charge light was out so I presumed it was fully charged.

Is my battery buggered???

What & where would I get to replace it??

FS

you can get 7ah dry cell alarm batterys from an electrical supplies shop for small money , or you could drop in to maplin if your around Dublin;)

clivej

FS is it a 6 or 12 volt battery. but anyway try using a car charger to top it up. I use one from Aldi as its electronic and switches over to a trickle charge when the battery is fully charged.

If its like the one I had (but a Cluson) with a head phone socket on the end of the charger then they can short out when you plug it into the battery box. Thats why they say to only turn on the charger when its all pluged together.

fish slapped

it's a 12 volt Clive and unfortunately I think it Buggered:(

looks like I'm off to Maplin

clivej

fish slapped wrote: »

it's a 12 volt Clive and unfortunately I think it Buggered:(

looks like I'm off to Maplin

Try the electrical whole salers first for an emergency lighting 12v battery. You'll get a 7amp hour for €17

fish slapped

Thanks C man thats a whole lot cheaper than the €120 I was quoted for another Deben battery:eek:

clivej

fish slapped wrote: »

Thanks C man thats a whole lot cheaper than the €120 I was quoted for another Deben battery:eek:

I'm only here to help.:D

How'd the rugby go, didya get good seats.:rolleyes:

fish slapped

Best seats in the staidium - cheap ones, with the bucket seats on the hill their the very same as the lower stand seats except €40 cheaper;)

CJhaughey

Anyone tried those Battery packs from Lidl? They are 12v 7Ah and have lots of other handy jacks as well as the cigar lighter.
You could always tell the Missus it is handy for the car;)

fish slapped

CJhaughey wrote: »

Anyone tried those Battery packs from Lidl? They are 12v 7Ah and have lots of other handy jacks as well as the cigar lighter.
You could always tell the Missus it is handy for the car;)

I got one of those and am hoping to try it this week, if I can get time off work:mad:

Jonty

try www.radionics.ie for batteries

ivanthehunter

if those batt's are any thing like the wiring then thats the prob:D

clivej

fish slapped wrote: »

FS you've been laying down with the dogs far to long.:D

fish slapped

clivej wrote: »

FS you've been laying down with the dogs far to long.:D

Clive, it's the voices, OOOH! save me from the voices - He, He, the voices...

westwicklow

As a last resort before shelling out for a new one, try the old battery with a new type conditioner charger. I don't know the technical in and outs of how it works but it has done the trick for me on various batteries even up to and over 1000 A/h brutes.

ivanthehunter

westwicklow wrote: »

As a last resort before shelling out for a new one, try the old battery with a new type conditioner charger. I don't know the technical in and outs of how it works but it has done the trick for me on various batteries even up to and over 1000 A/h brutes.

Are you talking about conditioning car batteries or deep cycle camper van style batteries?

westwicklow

That's a fair question ivanthehunter.

I was referring from truck down to tractor and on down to jeep and car and even down to my Deben battery pack.

The battery conditioner really does "what it says on the tin"!

ivanthehunter

westwicklow wrote: »

That's a fair question ivanthehunter.

I was referring from truck down to tractor and on down to jeep and car and even down to my Deben battery pack.

The battery conditioner really does "what it says on the tin"!

Where did you come across one!
Sound like it might pay its way as far as saving old batteries especially at 70euro a pop for car batteries.

I have a few cars at my folks home and she has several down around the farm that have all suffered from battery over drain at some point.

Might buy one as long as it don't come with light force wiring;)

s-cogan

ebay has em.



http://cgi.ebay.ie/OXFORD-MAXIMISER-360T-12V-CAR-BIKE-BATTERY-CONDITIONER_W0QQitemZ220508627065QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item335756a079

westwicklow

ha ha ha lightforce wiring!!

Some of the conditioner chargers can run up to €400+ so it's well worth shopping around.

fish slapped

would 2x 12volt 7Ah batteries last the same length of time as 1 x 14ah??

thanks again to everyone,

FS

clivej

fish slapped wrote: »

would 2x 12volt 7Ah batteries last the same length of time as 1 x 14ah??

thanks again to everyone,

FS

YES ish

fish slapped

"ish" ?? connect one battery to the other and then to the lamp! Yes / no
"ish"???

clivej

fish slapped wrote: »

"ish" ?? connect one battery to the other and then to the lamp! Yes / no
"ish"???

In parallel + to + and - to - will give you 12v 14ah But make sure they are both fully charged up or one will discharge into the other.




In series + to - will give you 24v 7ah

johngalway

Clive,

I like it @ ish, read that and laughed

fish slapped

YEP think I'll take it as "ish"

clivej

You can leave the batteries connected as shown in parallel and charge them both up as usual @12 volts.

Remember a 12v battery is only 6 x 2volt cells connected up in series in a unit we know as a car battery. Look at the top where you used to be able fill them with distilled water there are 6 units.

Ah I'm so good at this electric stuff

johngalway

Could you possible be so good as to do up a diagram on how to connect three and four of those sized batteries Clive?

Paid out for an 18 amp battery today and I have to admit it's still stuck in my craw tonight.

Going to get onto the alarm and wholesaler companies in Galway this weekend.

puheen

clivej ,
I had a look at the battery packs in Lidl that CJHaughy posted about , what do you think of them and what sort of lamp could you connect to them for lamping rabbits ?
Your knowledge in electric stuff would be appreciated by some still in the darkages !

fish slapped

http://www.batterycity.ie/sealed_lead_acid_12v-c-239_213_446.html?osCsid=31b59d8d9ffe7ac0026996244452d820

Try here;)

Clive you should be with 50 years as a lecy:D;) Cheers man.

FS

clivej

johngalway wrote: »

Could you possible be so good as to do up a diagram on how to connect three and four of those sized batteries Clive?

Paid out for an 18 amp battery today and I have to admit it's still stuck in my craw tonight.

Going to get onto the alarm and wholesaler companies in Galway this weekend.

This is best I can do for now. Just keep connecting the batteries in Parallel like the railway tracks. You still keep the same 12 volts but increase on the amp hours each time. And again charge them up as ONE UNIT with a car battery charger.


As i said before a standard 12v battery is only 6 x 2volt cells connected up in series in a unit we know as a car battery. Look at the top where you are able fill them with distilled water there are 6 units.

murph226

anyone tried the lithium batteries yet lads?

fish slapped

I simply got 2 of these :

http://radionics.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduct&R=5375488

at €42 for the 2 including delivery their a direct replacement for the deben one in spec and size except much cheaper. delivery took about 10 days. The deben charger works perfectly with them.

johnner1

fish slapped wrote: »

I simply got 2 of these :

http://radionics.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduct&R=5375488

at €42 for the 2 including delivery their a direct replacement for the deben one in spec and size except much cheaper. delivery took about 10 days. The deben charger works perfectly with them.

glad i mentioned them to you originally;)

bunny shooter

murph226 wrote: »

anyone tried the lithium batteries yet lads?

Have heard good things and seen one the other day talk about light, defo on my shopping list soon !

johngalway

LI batteries certainly don't suit me as yet. They're only 10amp, they're ridiculously expensive, they can short out if get wet, and have heard of at least one, reliable, report about starting a fire whilst charging.

Double the amps, reduce the price to a sensible level and sort out those two problems, then I'd be interested, not before though.