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cost of braces?

  • 12-11-2009 11:17am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭


    I was just wondering if anyone had recently gotten braces for upper and lower teeth? Just wondering roughly how much one should expect to pay.... thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭craichoe


    Robin132 wrote: »
    I was just wondering if anyone had recently gotten braces for upper and lower teeth? Just wondering roughly how much one should expect to pay.... thanks

    AFAIK around 2000 - 2500 euros depending on the duration of the treatment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Moved to Dental Issues

    dudara


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭mcballer


    Got braces a couple of months ago- 4250 (not including 150 for initial consult and xrays). They are metal bottom and ceramic top. All metal were 3750. But his guy is cheaper than most...looking at btw 4k-5k usually. Its a set price doesnt matter how long it takes really.Also can get '6month braces' in seapoint or Clane geneal hospital. But looking at same price but treatment is quicker, if u are a suitable candidate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 chickenlegs


    6month braces not great usually done by normal dentist not as good equipment training and they just take them off earlier ie not completing job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭Robin132


    so then ye would think that 3900 sounds like a reasonable figure?

    I cant think of there being anywhere that would charge 2000-2500 is there? i would have thought that would be well below the average cost.... i could be wrong though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭mcballer


    Not that it is on topic chicken-but thats not true about 6month braces. Yes, They are done by those so called 'cosmetic dentists' rather than an orthodontist. But my sister got them and they have done wonders for her teeth-have fixed her cross bite and everything. They're more suitable for less severe cases and they can be on for longer than 6months-can be 8/9months. So they dont just leave them on a set period of time and then take them off. They use different brackets, move things quicker and deal with less severe cases usually. I didnt get them as my teeth were a mess so decided on the traditional ortho route. But her results speak for themselves. And as with all braces-if she doesnt wear her retainer then they will relapse. But i will have to wear a retainer for life or mine will relapse too-even with traditional braces done by a qualified ortho!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭mcballer


    I did a good bit of research before getting mine. And i certainly didnt find any one near the 2k mark-but if anyone got a quote of such a price I could be wrong.

    Up north in Windsor hill in newry they charge £2500 but thats sterling and would incure travel costs too.
    E3900 would be a good price as far as the prices I got...most being well over 4k....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭Robin132


    mcballer wrote: »
    I did a good bit of research before getting mine. And i certainly didnt find any one near the 2k mark-but if anyone got a quote of such a price I could be wrong.

    Up north in Windsor hill in newry they charge £2500 but thats sterling and would incure travel costs too.
    E3900 would be a good price as far as the prices I got...most being well over 4k....
    Do you know by any chance if windsor hill open late evenings or saturdays? When i ring i just get told they're not taking bookings at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭kkth0360


    mcballer wrote: »
    ...They use different brackets, move things quicker...
    That's not true. The brackets and wires are exactly the same, and the teeth do not move any faster than with "traditional" braces. It's exactly the same process, and they're exactly the same braces. The only difference is that, with "6-month braces", the braces are removed as soon as the first stage of treatment (alignment) is complete, usually after 5-8 months.

    In certain types of milder cases, as mcballer said, this limited treatment can offer significant improvements in the appearance of the front teeth, and for some people this is a reasonable alternative to comprehensive orthodontics.

    However, for anyone considering this treatment, just bear in mind that these are simply standard braces, used for a relatively short period of time to achieve limited aims, and that the price should reflect this. Some "cosmetic" practices charge outrageous fees for this type of work, up to €4000 in some cases (or possibly even more).
    ...And as with all braces-if she doesnt wear her retainer then they will relapse. But i will have to wear a retainer for life or mine will relapse too-even with traditional braces done by a qualified ortho!!

    True, retainers are required in almost every case following orthodontic treatment. However, the tendency for relapse can be minimised by treating cases to the highest possible standard, aiming to produce an ideal occlusion (bite) and by adhering to certain principles of orthodontic treatment planning. In these cases, any relapse that occurs is likely to be much less extreme and to develop much more slowly than in cases treated to less ideal outcomes, such as those produced by limited, "6-month"-type treatment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭pinkfloyd34


    getting braces on the 24th November 2009, for €4,550 by a very reputable orthodontist in limerick city, just wondering about the retainer, do you wear it 24hrs a day for the rest of your life or just at night time or what?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭marbar


    fraction of the cost in poland and great quality apparently
    girlfriend got them there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 chickenlegs


    Hi
    Re retainers 6 month full time 6 month night time and then a few times a week at night I wear mine every night though got kinda used to them most up to date retainers are like vacuum pack see through you wouldn't notice them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 chickenlegs


    And would you fly to Poland every six weeks?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭Dirk Gently


    Robin132 wrote: »
    so then ye would think that 3900 sounds like a reasonable figure?

    I cant think of there being anywhere that would charge 2000-2500 is there? i would have thought that would be well below the average cost.... i could be wrong though

    I paid 3k for mine a year ago, but that was just top. 3,900 sounds good for top and bottom. I suppose everything is cheaper now than it was last year though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 chickenlegs


    3900 sounds great what part of country my advice would be just make sure it's an orthodontist


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭an langer


    I have a friend who got ceramic braces in the South at over 4,500 euro. I got the exact same treatment for wait for this, 2,500 'EURO' in the North! Even if you have to travel from kerry to the north you're not going to spend 2 grand on petrol! haha I see my orthodontist every 2 months!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 mark5inc


    I paid 2.5K for the only top. so I guess 3,900 is really pretty good for top and bottom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 chickenlegs


    by the way sorry for delay. Complete rubbish mc balller they don't use different brackets at all they just don't complete the treatment ie move the roots of the teeth into the correct position which would prevent relapse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭silverwatch


    marbar wrote: »
    fraction of the cost in poland and great quality apparently
    girlfriend got them there


    Marbar, I need braces and simply cannot justify paying Irish prices for them. How did your girlfriend find out about getting them done in Poland? I am finding it difficult to get info on getting them done abroad.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭mcballer


    Sorry to go off topic AGAIN....but just have to defend my comments as being 'rubbish' to chicken legs. Well i have traditional ceramic braces on my teeth-put on by an Orthodontist on the IOS...My sister has 6 month braces on at the moment. And the brackets she has on her teeth at the moment are very different from my brackets. They are bigger and bulkier, but white, my ceramic brackets are alot smaller and neater. So for when i say the brackets are different ....well they are, cause ive looked at both and they are completely different. So there..... my comments arent rubbish cause I have experience of lookin at both and they are different :-D

    Also the question asked earlier in thread about Windsor Hill in newry-no they dont open late or on saturdays. And when i was looking at getting braces was a 3 month wait for an appointment. As everyone from south goes there-so prob are just full up with patients now and not taking any appointments.
    So ended up staying south cause it was handier. With travel costs and also the hassle (ie if anything goes array with the braces-wire pops out or break a bracket-my ortho is 5mins from my house, so no big round trip.....and as have to work dont have to take time off every 6 weeks to go to ortho.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭Robin132


    3900 sounds great what part of country my advice would be just make sure it's an orthodontist
    they are an ortho and friend of mine had hers done with him too a few years ago and he's out in dundrum....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭Robin132


    mcballer wrote: »
    Also the question asked earlier in thread about Windsor Hill in newry-no they dont open late or on saturdays. And when i was looking at getting braces was a 3 month wait for an appointment. As everyone from south goes there-so prob are just full up with patients now and not taking any appointments.
    So ended up staying south cause it was handier. With travel costs and also the hassle (ie if anything goes array with the braces-wire pops out or break a bracket-my ortho is 5mins from my house, so no big round trip.....and as have to work dont have to take time off every 6 weeks to go to ortho.
    thank you for that :) now i know i wont be going near them, i cant take time off every 6 weeks to get then tightened.... i think i'll stick with the guy i got the price off in dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Lots or threads bout ortho reciently? Wonder if its the time of year or what but lots of people thinking about getting braces?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭Lorrs33


    I only got my upper jaw done, and that cost €2,750 paid in full, otherwise it would've been €3,000 in installments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭mcballer


    Wow there is some really good prices on here for braces. Maybe i didnt research enough :-)....though i did price up about 15 places in dublin/kildare/meath area and all near to 4 or 5k mark....Maybe further from Dublin are better priced.
    But speaking from experience so far....unless ur gonna make a really good saving best to go to some one either near to where you live or else to work-cause going every 6 weeks and sometimes more frequently than that could become very annoying, especially as treatment times are usually at 1 1/2 to 2 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭Robin132


    Lots or threads bout ortho reciently? Wonder if its the time of year or what but lots of people thinking about getting braces?
    well i recently got engaged and want to get my teeth straightened before the wedding if possible... thats what has sparked my interest in it anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 chickenlegs


    So mc baller I said not as good equipment which I think is proved by the six months being bigger brackets I personally can't think of any technology which gets bigger as it advances anyway certainly in the case of brackets they have gotten smaller neater and more effective as they have advanced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Kila


    Just as a personal note - I'm currently attending the windsor hill orthodontic clinic and I couldn't recommend them enough. Very good price, very good service, and I'm delighted with my teeth so far (and due to be finished soon).

    I know there's a wait on their appointment list, but if braces are something you're considering long term, I'd put my name down for them, as I've nothing but good to say about them.

    I've had clear on top and metal on bottom braces for about 19-20 months now, and should hopefully be having them removed in January. I am paying 3100 total, which includes all my visits, my retainers afterwards, etc. The clear brackets are gorgeous, even nicer than ceramic as they blend into my teeth really well. Recently had family photos taken, and even in the close up face shots, you can barely see them. I'm so thrilled!

    I see Sean in the windsor hill clinic and have always found him very amenable and friendly, and willing to discuss my treatment and tell me exactly what he's doing and why, which is something I really appreciate.

    If anyone has any brace related questions, feel free to get in touch, and I'll give you whatever info I can.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Presbo


    About to get both my upper and lower braces.
    Got quoted 3,900 for both by the rathfarnham orthodontic practice so I am happy enough to see they haven't been screwing me. they did the x rays there so its pretty good.
    Who else does both for 3,900, maybe they're a chain?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭Robin132


    Presbo wrote: »
    About to get both my upper and lower braces.
    Got quoted 3,900 for both by the rathfarnham orthodontic practice so I am happy enough to see they haven't been screwing me. they did the x rays there so its pretty good.
    Who else does both for 3,900, maybe they're a chain?
    I got a quote of 3900 from Michael Ryan in dundrum, dont think he has another surgery anywhere or is affiliated with any....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Ropo


    Sorry to bump into this post... just reading chickenlegs comments, you seem very sure that 6 month braces don't work judging by the number of threads you written on about them.

    I have six month braces and am nearly finished with them. I used a dentist that himself had 6 month braces and is just qualified ortho. I had an issue with my arch and a bad cross bite that was causing part of my gum to recede.
    The results are brill and couldn't be happier. My arch has widened and cross bite is corrected . I doubt I would have got a better results if I had gone the traditional method.....

    I just want people to know that there are options if the traditional method doesn't suit you or your life style.... I know some ortho are feeling threatened about losing business to this newer way of doing things and think its unfair for anyone to be negative about something that they themselves have no first hand experience of.

    Sorry again for bumpin in just felt I needed to voice my opinion !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 chickenlegs


    I didn't say they don't work I said they are the same thing as normal ortho just taken off earlier therefore why would you go to a general dentist to get something done which a qualified orthodontist could do better obviously, and there isn't generally a price difference! therefore no price difference but big results difference illogical in my mind to go to the lesser qualified person


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭Pipsie Pie


    an langer wrote: »
    I have a friend who got ceramic braces in the South at over 4,500 euro. I got the exact same treatment for wait for this, 2,500 'EURO' in the North! Even if you have to travel from kerry to the north you're not going to spend 2 grand on petrol! haha I see my orthodontist every 2 months!

    Hi Langer,

    Would you please pm me the details of the practice you used and the experience you had using them? i have tried getting an appointment in the place in Newry, but they're booked out... :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭pinkfloyd34


    im paying 4,500 in limerick but get back 910 from tax relief, so 3,600, are the prices here taking the tax relief into count, also if i have to visit the newry dentist i will probably have to take time off work so if i go up 10 times and im on 100eu a day thats 1,000 so it could end up the same and that doesnt even take the petrol money into account


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Zaynar1234


    Im currently being charged 3,500 for both sets of Damon Braces...

    Got them on Friday, already one of the wires is loose on one of the brakcets. Not v impressed. Am going to ring dentist tomorow and give out. Considering I have not eaten since I got them on Friday its obviously his fault


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭Orthoman


    Hi ChickenLegs,
    I think you just have to surrender and let them pay the exhorbitant fees for the 6 month brace technique, you won't get through. I gave up after a few posts.......they are sucked in by the marketing. The technique is obviously very advanced, high tech, involves extremely expensive training and material costs, clinically requires very competent cosmetic dentists to provide such treatment , who are pioneers in their field. They provide a service that qualified orthodontists don't due to a conspiracy and an oath the specialists must have undertaken during their training which says they must charge the same fee for 2 years of treatment instead of the same fee for 6 months that the 6 month brace experts do, just for the fun of it.

    AND YES McBALLER, functionally the brackets are the same, the appearance may be different due to different manufacturers. The brackets will have slot sizes of either .018inches or .022 inches, and have various tip and torque angles depending on the preference of the operator. And no the archwires are not new, NiTi ...nickel titanium wires are around since the seventies.:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Orthoman wrote: »
    Hi ChickenLegs,
    I think you just have to surrender and let them pay the exhorbitant fees for the 6 month brace technique, you won't get through. I gave up after a few posts.......

    Dont surrender orthoman, your posts are good and eventually people will get the message. For some reason the orthodontics, espically the 6 months braces threads and other marketed systems, is very popular on boards at the moment. I don't think this is an accident. I suspect a lot of spamming and false/ advertising threads started, for that reason alone your input is required. Also I know next to nothing about ortho so its a learning thing for me. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 NotaDinosaur


    Fitzgeme and Orthoman,

    I am worried about your inability to see that you are simply pushing your own agenda here. Spam indeed.

    There are lots of sources showing the benefits of modern "Cosmetic Orthodontics", including "Six Month Braces".

    Start with visiting www.dentaltown.com and listen to the American dentists on the matter.

    As a moderator, you should have higher standards and allow a reasoned debate.

    As for the topic, there is a wide range of people who provide braces in Ireland and all offer different services.

    Shop around and don't believe that cheaper prices give similar results.

    It's an exciting thing for people to do and has incredible effects on people's lives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 cailin00


    Hey, does anyone know anywhere that has dropped the price of braces? I've heard the prices have been dropped but don't know where. Was thinking of doing the whole budapest thing but if I can avoid it that'd be great


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Prices will vary depending on the complexity of the case and the skills of the dentist/orthodontist that is doing the treatment. I would advise that low price should not be your chief priority. Braces need to be adjusted regularly (once a month) flying to another country will work out way too expensive in money and opportunity cost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭#15


    Prices will vary depending on the complexity of the case and the skills of the dentist/orthodontist that is doing the treatment. I would advise that low price should not be your chief priority. Braces need to be adjusted regularly (once a month) flying to another country will work out way too expensive in money and opportunity cost.

    Hi Fitzgeme, sorry if this is off topic in this thread. But I am wondering about retainers as an alternative to braces. I made an orthodontist appointment and the receptionist told me that retainers may be a possibility instead of braces, in cases where minor work is needed.
    Does she mean retainers that are just placed in the mouth every night?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 chickenlegs


    Had a look at that dental town mag funny you can do Orthodontics in two days whats next medicine in an hour we truly are evolving!!
    Retainers don't move teeth. There are many different options with their own pros and cons I'm sure your Orthodontist will explain everything at your consultation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Chickenlegs, is that the treatment where the teeth are surgically repositioned and the ligament severed? Crazy...whats the big rush.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 cailin00


    Yeah was thinkin the travel might be too much alright, Got an appointment with ***snip*** in Rathfarnham, was thinkin of gettin damon braces. Good or bad idea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭vishal


    no.fifteen wrote: »
    Hi Fitzgeme, sorry if this is off topic in this thread. But I am wondering about retainers as an alternative to braces. I made an orthodontist appointment and the receptionist told me that retainers may be a possibility instead of braces, in cases where minor work is needed.
    Does she mean retainers that are just placed in the mouth every night?

    spring retainers move teeth. they are suitable for very minor alignment.
    the inman aligner is also a form of a spring retainer although it has a greater range of activation because nickel titanium coil springs (special metal springs)


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