Pat Kenny verbally attacked on the Frontline

daviddob

did anyone just see the lunatic attack pat kenny on kenny's "Frontline" show?

he said he had been waiting 20 years or something to confront pat! some people need to chill

meesa

He was dead right in what he was saying and was obviously furious and frustrated as a lot of people are right now in light of current economic climate.
The extraordinary salary of Pat Kenny, Gerry Ryan, Marian Finucane and so on is mindbogglingly perverse.

ChristyCent

I switched it on during that but couldnt really hear him. Was he not shouting at the minister?

Beaucoupfish

ha ha ha! that was a bit of craic, better than The Apprentice

amdublin

He didnt seem to be the full shilling tbh

aonoco

right message but wrong way to put forward an argument however you had to love his last few lines when leaving

" i am off to sue a granny over a field to get another million"

rkeane

I could name the guy but I won't...not sure of the rules on that sort of thing. He was relatively stable minded tonight....that's all I'll say.

tommyobrien84

RTE should know from now on not to transmit Pat Kenny shows live anymore...!!! :D

Atlantic1

rkeane wrote: »

I could name the guy but I won't...not sure of the rules on that sort of thing. He was relatively stable minded tonight....that's all I'll say.

I don't think you have to say anymore...... Poor guy. I felt very sorry for him. He seemed very frustrated but he obviously believed in what he was talking about. I'm glad he wasn't man handled etc. on camera.

BingoMingo

daviddob wrote: »

did anyone just see the lunatic attack pat kenny on kenny's "Frontline" show?

he said he had been waiting 20 years or something to confront pat! some people need to chill

His point was that various grossly overpaid so called journalists on RTE are very good at sympathising with the poor and needy and attacking politicians etc on their behalf whilst at the same time pulling down massive salaries paid for by our licence fees.

He was spot on here. There is a little bit too much rightious indignation coming out form these wealthy celebrities.

run_Forrest_run

"I’m now off to sue an old woman about a field…" class:D

dario28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxucWmoQfN0

I love the way the woman beside him doesnt know where to look.....Quality stuff...:D

Skyuser

This fella does be ranting crazy talk all day on a soapbox in Dublin

lockie83

Ah it was brilliant and as crazy as he may had come across he did make a good point, Pat Kenny is earning €600,000 for RTE a year, its crazy when you think about the size of our nation and the face he earns more than the American President. It is an item that should be addressed, this country is far too top heavy.

DanSolo

€600,000 a year? Was €900,000 last year! He must be the highest paid PUBLIC SERVANT in the country and he gets it for crappy TV shows.
Go on ya good thing, give him one for me.

blackbetty69

ah dont tell me i missed that!! dam it!!!

noelg

blackbetty69 wrote: »

ah dont tell me i missed that!! dam it!!!

Oh the wonders of youtube Betty!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxucWmoQfN0

Fink Goddie

LOL just watched it there, what a legend!
The face on wooden Pat, he didnt know what to do! brilliant!

That_Guy

Heard a clip of this on the radio this morning. I think he would've come across a lot better had he not started getting really angry and shouting.

He is dead right though.

Pangea

Ha ha hilarous stuff, Pat is getting a roasting these days.
Only in rte could a man be allowed to shout on live tv for 3 mins without being stopped.
Where was security?

gtg60

Pangea wrote: »

Ha ha hilarous stuff, Pat is getting a roasting these days.
Only in rte could a man be allowed to shout on live tv for 3 mins without being stopped.
Where was security?

C'mon, they (RTE producer/ directors) of the show were lovin' it, I mean HOW hard is it the tell the sound man to stop following the guy around or simply cut the studio mike.

Ratings bonanza for them...

Con_Con

I'm surprised no one applauded him. He had some very valid points.

juuge

Strange how RTE don't mention the incident at all on their web site today. Perhaps they are in denial. Anyway the guy was 'spot-on' and about time too that this was publicly said to Pat's face.

extra-ordinary_

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055735167

JoeFitz89

Con_Con wrote: »

I'm surprised no one applauded him. He had some very valid points.

I agree he really did have some valid points.
He should of got a round of applause.

I feel sorry for the woman sitting beside him she looked very uncomfortable.
unfortunately for her that clip is going to replayed countless number of times.

Amazingly RTE havent cut it out from the programme thats up on their player site (he starts up around about 19minutes in)

lockie83

Actually in Pat Kenny's defence, well not really defence I still think he is an overpaid plank, Pat Kenny is PAID €600,000 by RTE, the money is actually paid to a Company Pat Kenny is a director of, its not his actual wage.

Pat actually pays for his own assistant and researchers, some expenses and what not, but that being said it is still way too much money for a nation our size.

domaxus

Let’s be clear...

Despite how people may perceive that Chap (as slightly unhinged), he has done the nation a great justice.

The reality is that everyone you speak to within your local community will and is of the opinion that the current crop of RTE presenters are significantly overpaid and in particular Mr. Pat Kenny.

We need more people like this chap to stand up and say - 'No' we will not accept this level of overpay for mere TV presenters. Pat Kenny is currently paid 3 times more than the annual earnings of a medical consultant, but whose life will he save this week?

Although this chap was very angry he was none the less very capable of making a realistic and sound argument on the whole injustice of it all...

Think about it - Pat Kenny challenging a government minister about the need to take €4.00 per week away from people barely surviving on welfare - whilst he in the meanwhile is earning approx. €1,400.00 per day!!!

Is Pat Kenny entitled to earn a high salary for his role on TV and radio? I think yes, but €500,000.00 per annum is obscene.

So congratulations to a single member of society that was brave enough to challenge him on behalf of all TV licence payers and society in general, and shame on the audience present for last nights debate for not clapping him as he left the studio, I’m sure that 90% of those present were in total agreement with the comments made – he ought to have been supported for being so courageous.

For sure – your time at €500,000.00 per year is well and truly ‘UP’ Mr. Kenny. Take an immediate 25% percent cut say (-€125,000.00) and pay the sum of money you referred to the minister taking from those on social welfare - €4.00 per week and give it to those who need it more than you.

Such a cut would pay approx. 35,000 people (for 1 calendar week) the €4.00 per week that the government are considering as part of their totally unjust cost measures. This is an example of the scale of pay that Mr. Kenny is currently unjustly receiving.

So was the studio member unhinged, perhaps more than slightly, but does he represent the majority of society who sees this level of ludicrous pay and yet decides in their cowardice not to act – he most certainly does.

Congratulations to those brave enough to stand and be heard and speak the truth.

I hope Mr. Kenny you occasionally take the time to read the comments posted online and realise that it is not only those in the lower classes that would contradict your grossly exaggerated level of pay but also a significant and educated portion of society who believe that the tide of consent is very much against you.

JP Liz

Mr. Alan O Brien for Taoiseach

emptykay1

Well said "Domaxus". The man on the frontline said exactly what I was thinking at the time. These RTE presenters pretend to be "Joe Public" when nothing could be further than the truth. Earning more that the President of the U.S. - its a disgrace.

Ian_K

The way Pat shrugs it off made me want to put my foot through the telly... i mean could he be any more patronising!! what a c***

super_metroid

that man is a hero

Neil3030

OMG, someone's earning loads of money?!

Since when did Ireland become such a bubbling pot of hypersocialist outrage?

Kenny earns EUR600,000 per year because somebody values his performance at EUR600,000 per year. And a lot of people listen to his radio show and watch his TV show because they feel he is very good at his job. If people didn't listen to his radio show or watch his TV shows, he wouldn't have a job, let alone the 600k per year. It's that simple; those are the "conditions" upon which he receives such "exaggerated pay."

Now the fact that tax-payer money might indirectly fund him in some part is a separate issue, and one which I would be strongly opposed to in fact. But I doubt very much that he is. He is a flagship presenter, and the listenership of his Radio shows and viewers of his TV shows are easily up there with the highest draws in RTE (possibly even the highest) and would be comfortably sufficient to generate the requisite advertising revenue to pay his wages.

I'd actually venture that the revenue generated by his programmes go a long way to help fund other news, sports, culture, current affairs and specialist interest programming on RTE. That loon and his rant essentially personifies the very reasons Ireland will be hit hardest by and take the longest to recover from the global recession, if we do at all - we have absolutely no idea where money comes from and instead of doing something productive, we sit around furiously slinging vitriol at those who have the unforgivable neck to earn it.

By the way, why is nobody slating Hanafin for her completely idiotic retort?

"As politicians, as journalists, as participants we all have a voice, and a voice that is being heard and will be heard now over the next few weeks and it's a very difficult time for everybody and I think that's why we are all genuinely aiming, that we will be in this together, as a community, that we're in this together and we'll try and ensure that we can have a fair, just society, the type that we've always tried to have in Ireland."

Uh.... ok... any relation?

AidySevenfold

made for some quality viewing alright
his field comment was priceless!

baaaa

That guy should be backed up,we need more of his style.
It's nice to see genuine fury as opposed to what we usually do.
His points were good enough and his intentions are ours except he has a bit more balls.

MadMoss

I agree with the points the guy made but not the delivery.
Pat Kenny's and other RTE "celebrities" salaries are obscene. These salaries are so high that those people cannot justify their own attempts at empathising with the less well off in society. When they try and do so they do look like hypocrites.

Let’s say a new presenter was put in his place and paid €150,000 instead, e.g. Vincent Brown, Colette Fitzpatrick, or Ursula Halligan. Would the show be any different? Would different questions be asked of the Minister?

Pat’s approach to the person was to allow him to dig a hole for himself and then try and bury him by intimating - (I always believe) “everyone is entitled to their say” (no matter how unstable they are). While Pat’s approach is understandable it is not justified in the instance; I reckon the guy just wasn’t aware of Pat’s clever tactics. The guy was annoyed and fell in to Pat’s trap of allowing his anger to diminish his valid points.

Still, his points were all compelling I think, if you overlook his anger.
But then, perhaps getting annoyed sometimes is a good thing.

Later.

Sonnenblumen

This thread would be much more relevant if people knew what they were talking about. For example, Pat Kenny does not work for RTE, ie, he is NOT an RTE employee but rather an independent business contractor who is providing a specified service governed by defined (Contractural T&Cs).

Unlike many 'Public' employees doing a good or crap job, he can does not like many other private sector employees does not ridiculous terms like security of tenure.

Why does any unknown big mouth hijacking a TV show have all the wisdom or answers on what, why or when earns what and where?

More a case of someone rude talking through the ass? Ignorance personal attacks are simply cheap strokes and usually appeal to lower feeders.:eek:

stevedublin

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

Ignorance personal attacks are simply cheap strokes and usually appeal to lower feeders.:eek:

hehe, you have the same grammar and style of ranting as the heckler!

Tilt Gone

baaaa wrote: »

That guy should be backed up,we need more of his style.
It's nice to see genuine fury as opposed to what we usually do.
His points were good enough and his intentions are ours except he has a bit more balls.

I'm sorry but his "style" as you put it is totally irrational and is typical of what I've come to expect from the droves of irritated sheep living among our green pastures. It's exactly what "we usually do" as you put it only this one occurance has ended up on television.

Rows upon rows of irritable, angry people giving out about anyone who seems to be getting more than the rest. There was nothing about Mr Kenny's wages when things were running smoothly. But now with the Media eating their own young and printing piles upon piles of stinking sensationalist poo everyone now deems it acceptable to comment on anything and everything under the sun. Would anyone here like to post their job title and salary so the rest of us can decide whether your paid what we consider fair and just.

I think not!!

Give Kenny a break he's not just paid for what we see on the tv and hear on the radio, plus he has his own reasearchers he employs.

lockie83

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

This thread would be much more relevant if people knew what they were talking about. For example, Pat Kenny does not work for RTE, ie, he is NOT an RTE employee but rather an independent business contractor who is providing a specified service governed by defined (Contractural T&Cs).

Unlike many 'Public' employees doing a good or crap job, he can does not like many other private sector employees does not ridiculous terms like security of tenure.

Why does any unknown big mouth hijacking a TV show have all the wisdom or answers on what, why or when earns what and where?

More a case of someone rude talking through the ass? Ignorance personal attacks are simply cheap strokes and usually appeal to lower feeders.:eek:

I believe I made that point earlier

But I do agree with your post, it really was a cheap dig and even though he did make some valid points he went about it in the completely incorrect manner.

Towards the end his arguement was turning into a comedy routine by bringing up the old lady and the field and while being dragged away screaming, "JUSTICE!!!!" was a bit much.

rolion

I like the chap,straight up and valid points...I'm looking forward to receive notification to renew my TV licence...up my arse they will see my money this year ! ! !

stuartfanning

Funny isn't it that channels supported by the public via the TV Licence seem to have buckets of money to pay their 'stars' like Pat Kenny at RTE and Jonathan Ross at BBC. Commercial channels have a much harder time.

Turner

Looks like this lunatic is at it again!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD2VpesAt2I

It is the same fella yeah??

Somebody should stop his welfare. He should be told instead of having hissy fits after free wine do's at the late late show and shouting at people in public he should put his time into looking for a job.

mickeyrooo

JoeFitz89 wrote: »

Amazingly RTE havent cut it out from the programme thats up on their player site (he starts up around about 19minutes in)[/I]

I saw it this morning on the rte website and the man was right even if he was a bit mad...

mickeyrooo

Neil3030 wrote: »

By the way, why is nobody slating Hanafin for her completely idiotic retort?

Ok.. she could have done better but I think it was very hard to give a satisfactory retort given what had just happened before. Its easy to say she should have done better...hindsight is always 20/20 ...in my humble opinion.

Neil3030

Chief--- wrote: »

Looks like this lunatic is at it again!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD2VpesAt2I

It is the same fella yeah??

Somebody should stop his welfare. He should be told instead of having hissy fits after free wine do's at the late late show and shouting at people in public he should put his time into looking for a job.

Have to say I agree with what he has to say in that video.

Plus, to whatever union hack shouted "GET OFF THE ROAD YOU" to him - what gives you any more right to be there?

Ok.. she could have done better but I think it was very hard to give a satisfactory retort given what had just happened before. Its easy to say she should have done better...hindsight is always 20/20 ...in my humble opinion.

She should have said nothing! Or at least waited to be asked a question rather than launch off on some limelight hunting word salad!

MadMoss

Neil3030 wrote: »

She should have said nothing! Or at least waited to be asked a question rather than launch off on some limelight hunting word salad!

I disagree. Elected leaders are supposed to lead, not sit and wait until someone else asks them a question. Her sentence ran away from her true, but the message of 'we are in this together' is not unreasonble based on what had just taken place.

Neil3030

MadMoss wrote: »

I disagree. Elected leaders are supposed to lead, not sit and wait until someone else asks them a question. Her sentence ran away from her true, but the message of 'we are in this together' is not unreasonble based on what had just taken place.

Well granted we have the benefit of hindsight and not having to think on the spot under the pressure of the lights, cameras etc, but her gibberish aside, I can't even see where "we're in this together" fits in with a guy going off on Kenny not being worthy of his salary. Just a meaningless platitude with no relevance to the topic at hand at all.

Maybe the two of us look for different things in leaders, but I'm a firm believer in "less is more" when it comes to discussion and argument and when someone is so manifestly scrambling for a soundbite or to nonsensically punctuate a dramatic moment in whatever diffused way they can, it smacks more of desperation than it does leadership.

Tilt Gone

MadMoss wrote: »

I disagree. Elected leaders are supposed to lead, not sit and wait until someone else asks them a question. Her sentence ran away from her true, but the message of 'we are in this together' is not unreasonble based on what had just taken place.

"We are in this together" is the bull**** this Government is trying to spoon feed you now, to fight the growing amount of anger geared towards them. By trying to create a "one for all, all for one" picture, this they belive, will someone manage to convince the public to vote these gangsters in again.

Unfortuantely this is not what happened even then, This was one idiots anger spilling out and the Minister then trying to sypmpatise with him. Doing totally what he was slating Kenny for in the first place.

The_Kew_Tour

AidySevenfold wrote: »

made for some quality viewing alright
his field comment was priceless!

Yes it was, his brain seems to go into a freeze when he is put under pressure its always funny with what he has to say when he is in a ropey situation like this one or time on late late when he started saying " Thank You Thank You" very funny

spongeman

To be honest I thought Pat dealt with in very well, he just brushed that guy aside with appropriate distain.

I think Kenny is very good, especially on the radio, sure if he is that good then pay him it ? Why do so many people tune into him then.

Theres no need to come on shouting and roaring at Pat Kenny, Do it to the Bankers or something.

sparkling sea

This was a major story, maybe even the main talking point in Ireland yesterday, yet RTE the state broadcastor didn't give it any coverage.

Free and open news coverage me arse.

Was the guy a member of Fianna Fail, cause he certainly took the heat of Mary Hanifan. Its a pity the guy lost his temper, because his point that RTE pay a talk show host 4 times as much as the American president is one that should be pointed out more often