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ALTEZZA

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  • 07-11-2009 12:38pm
    #1
    R34-GTR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭


    hi all
    Heres my story
    I was looking for a 4door (sports) car for a about a month now,
    all the cars i went to see had bad history or over priced, anyways last weekend
    one of my mate's told me hes going to sale his Altezza to me for fair price,
    i drove the car a few time i love them, im oki with insurance, but i don't know anything about this cars, anybody has 1, any common problems?
    that would help,

    i hope i didn't bordered you with my story

    Thank you all


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    #2
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    The Altezza is not a sports car and never will be. Hell it doesn't even look like a sports car. There are many Jap cars with far, far better performance and looks. Fuel economy is crap for that kind of car too. Also, never, ever buy a car from a friend, no matter how good a friend he is.

    How much is he selling it for and what's your budget?


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    sleepysniper
    Registered Users Posts: 470 ✭✭sleepysniper


    Yep the Altezza is fairly heavy on juice for what it is, 2 litre N/A.
    Only thing going for it is it has RWD.


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    R34-GTR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭R34-GTR


    Confab wrote: »
    The Altezza is not a sports car and never will be. Hell it doesn't even look like a sports car. There are many Jap cars with far, far better performance and looks. Fuel economy is crap for that kind of car too. Also, never, ever buy a car from a friend, no matter how good a friend he is.

    How much is he selling it for and what's your budget?

    why wouldn't i buy a car from a friend?


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    #5
    Muckie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭Muckie


    Knew a fella who had one, he loved drifting in it around carparks.
    Hard on petrol and the wipers went wallop twice on it. Think its a
    fault on them. But if you like them go for it, take it from your name
    you like the jap cars, i'm a fan myself. S13 200sx's fine car also or
    even an old Skyline maybe.


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    R34-GTR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭R34-GTR


    Muckie wrote: »
    Knew a fella who had one, he loved drifting in it around carparks.
    Hard on petrol and the wipers went wallop twice on it. Think its a
    fault on them. But if you like them go for it, take it from your name
    you like the jap cars, i'm a fan myself. S13 200sx's fine car also or
    even an old Skyline maybe.

    yea you are right i'm a fan of jap car,
    the reason i love Altezza is its suit mylife style (family) better than other cars
    big car 4doors very comfortable and of course RWD.
    i'm not mechanic know nothing of these cars, the only issue i have with them is fuel,
    i want to know if theres a common problems that i need to be aware of?
    by th way i've never seen 1 in garage,


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    #7
    dylbert
    Registered Users Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭dylbert


    check out www.tezzaworld.com, Irish based Altezza forum, should find all you need to know.


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    #8
    Barr
    Registered Users Posts: 6,993 ✭✭✭Barr


    I like these cars alot as well . I think the steering pump is a very common problem with them.


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    Mick K
    Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭Mick K


    Had one,Anti-christ on petrol although mine had a supra fuel pump.
    Handle well with coilovers.Very comfortable.

    Faults.
    When they are imported best thing to do is replace the AFM straight off.
    Ball joints in the front go,Are expensive enough.
    Heater matrix.
    Dual mass ****ty flywheel

    Other than that man their a flyer of a car,Plenty of power up high in the revs that would keep with most 1.6 hot hatchs.

    Bulletproof engine.Plenty of nice mods available too but have deep pockets


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    #10
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,401 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    RX8's are getting cheap....


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,158 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Check out the Honda Accord Type R too:

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200938195259568


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    Sqaull20
    Registered Users Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    How much are you getting it for? They are usually well overpriced for what you get.If your getting cheap, why not! They are a fine yoke, even though they are popular with scumbags.

    Alternatives.

    Octavia VRS ( low milage, would get it for 5k imo) 180bhp standard, decent on fuel for a turbo and they have good tuning capabilites, remap of over 200bhp is easily done.

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200944195695668

    Mondeo ST.

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=200945195719865&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Ford%20Mondeo%2C%20Engine%20Min%3A%202.5L%2C%20Petrol%20Only.%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below.&CFID=10518728&CFTOKEN=71685694

    M3.

    3 door, but plenty of room in the back ;)

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200940195347152


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    #13
    R34-GTR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭R34-GTR


    Sqaull20 wrote: »
    How much are you getting it for? They are usually well overpriced for what you get.If your getting cheap, why not! They are a fine yoke, even though they are popular with scumbags.

    I'm getting it for about 5k
    but its very clean car only 89km on the clock, 2years NCT as well,
    Alternatives.

    Octavia VRS ( low milage, would get it for 5k imo) 180bhp standard, decent on fuel for a turbo and they have good tuning capabilites, remap of over 200bhp is easily done.

    from what i heard these cars aren't that great when it comes to handling

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200944195695668

    Mondeo ST.

    i haven't thought about it Mondeo ST to honest, but i'll have look at them,

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=200945195719865&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Ford%20Mondeo%2C%20Engine%20Min%3A%202.5L%2C%20Petrol%20Only.%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below.&CFID=10518728&CFTOKEN=71685694

    M3.

    3 door, but plenty of room in the back ;)

    maybe if 3years time.

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200940195347152

    Thanks


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    daire54
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭daire54


    yall pick up a altezza for under 5k with trd kit,,ans she'l diff..sour on juice!
    :cool:


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    #15
    Barr
    Registered Users Posts: 6,993 ✭✭✭Barr


    Sqaull20 wrote: »
    How much are you getting it for? They are usually well overpriced for what you get.If your getting cheap, why not! They are a fine yoke, even though they are popular with scumbags.

    Alternatives.

    Octavia VRS ( low milage, would get it for 5k imo) 180bhp standard, decent on fuel for a turbo and they have good tuning capabilites, remap of over 200bhp is easily done.

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200944195695668

    Mondeo ST.

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=200945195719865&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Ford%20Mondeo%2C%20Engine%20Min%3A%202.5L%2C%20Petrol%20Only.%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below.&CFID=10518728&CFTOKEN=71685694

    M3.

    3 door, but plenty of room in the back ;)

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200940195347152

    To be fair the alezza is a far superior car to the skoda and mondeo. The M3 is a completely different car to an altezza for comparison purposes


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    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    Barr wrote: »
    To be fair the alezza is a far superior car to the skoda and mondeo. The M3 is a completely different car to an altezza for comparison purposes

    I'd take the Skoda or Ford over the Altezza all day long, there is no way an Altezza is a far superior car, it drinks petrol, isn't that fast, looks crap and isn't an overly nice car to drive.


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    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    RX8's are getting cheap....

    Hrmm, the low power ones are anemic tho..


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    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,401 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Indeed, but that's what the 231 is for.


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    #19
    R34-GTR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭R34-GTR


    i see not alot of altezza fans here,
    Thanks for the comments anyways
    but i still dont have the answer im looking for,
    anyone has ever experience any kinda of probelm with these cars?

    Thank you


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    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    R34-GTR wrote: »
    i see not alot of altezza fans here,
    Thanks for the comments anyways
    but i still dont have the answer im looking for,
    anyone has ever experience any kinda of probelm with these cars?

    Thank you

    Cousin had one for about 6 months.

    In that time the power steering pump packed in, steering column had some sort of problem, central locking never worked and he killed the car by hitting a pothole, the suspension setup just collapsed and the car was left sitting on the road with no suspension


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    Mick K
    Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭Mick K


    Mick K wrote: »
    Had one,Anti-christ on petrol although mine had a supra fuel pump.
    Handle well with coilovers.Very comfortable.

    Faults.
    When they are imported best thing to do is replace the AFM straight off.
    Ball joints in the front go,Are expensive enough.
    Heater matrix.
    Dual mass ****ty flywheel

    Other than that man their a flyer of a car,Plenty of power up high in the revs that would keep with most 1.6 hot hatchs.

    Bulletproof engine.Plenty of nice mods available too but have deep pockets
    R34-GTR wrote: »
    i see not alot of altezza fans here,
    Thanks for the comments anyways
    but i still dont have the answer im looking for,
    anyone has ever experience any kinda of probelm with these cars?

    Thank you


    Ahem...:rolleyes::cool:


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    2 Espressi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭2 Espressi


    there's a very similar conversation going on over at octae at the moment:

    http://octane.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=31647


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    #23
    Erebus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭Erebus


    In standard form they can be a bit under powered hence the higher fuel consumption.


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    #24
    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    2 Espressi wrote: »
    there's a very similar conversation going on over at octae at the moment:

    http://octane.ie/forum/showthread.php?t=31647
    Erebus wrote: »
    In standard form they can be a bit under powered hence the higher fuel consumption.

    From that thread even with a turbo and extras fitted the OP luckyfrank is still only getting 248bhp, In standard form they struggle to get anywhere near the factory spec of 207bhp with most in the 180 - 190 bhp so in terms of power output there is much much better options out there.

    However the OP seems more concerned with having a nice 4 door saloon with a bit of power, which the Altezza seems to suit but I'd be looking at better value options personally


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    Erebus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭Erebus


    draffodx wrote: »
    From that thread even with a turbo and extras fitted the OP luckyfrank is still only getting 248bhp, In standard form they struggle to get anywhere near the factory spec of 207bhp with most in the 180 - 190 bhp so in terms of power output there is much much better options out there.

    However the OP seems more concerned with having a nice 4 door saloon with a bit of power, which the Altezza seems to suit but I'd be looking at better value options personally

    In standard form about the same as a Integra Type R then.
    http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Summary.aspx?model=311


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    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    Erebus wrote: »
    In standard form about the same as a Integra Type R then.
    http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Summary.aspx?model=311

    Yep power wise it is but that's the same power as a lightweight, performance orientated car in a heavy family saloon car.


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    Erebus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭Erebus


    draffodx wrote: »
    Yep power wise it is but that's the same power as a lightweight, performance orientated car in a heavy family saloon car.

    there's only 100kg in it.

    teg Curb weight 1,199 kg
    tezza Curb weight     1340 kg

    sure that's a back seat.


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    Sqaull20
    Registered Users Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    draffodx wrote: »
    I'd take the Skoda or Ford over the Altezza all day long, there is no way an Altezza is a far superior car, it drinks petrol, isn't that fast, looks crap and isn't an overly nice car to drive.

    Exactly! You have to forget the talk/image for a second and you will see that in a straight line the Altezza is simply not a fast car:rolleyes:

    They say it can do 0-60 in 6.6secs or something like that, but in real time its closer to 8 seconds if not above it and if you dont hard launch it, it stretches out even further.2 guys at work have them, with a few little performance mods ( they are probably 180bhp on our fuel ) and they cant take my diesel fabia until above jail speeds.A remapped Mondeo 2.2tdci diesel would take one in imo:P That says it all lol.

    I remember reading that at 50mph in fourth gear you have something like 85bhp available to you.

    This with a simple remap would freighten the life out of an Altezza and its good on fuel, drives well, looks good and so on.

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200946195824971

    Altezza would have been a good choice in 98, but there’re now just so many cars that do so much more.


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    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    Erebus wrote: »
    there's only 100kg in it.

    teg Curb weight 1,199 kg
    tezza Curb weight     1340 kg

    sure that's a back seat.

    That Teg figure is wrong, I've had mine weighted and its 1090kg, and mine is the all inclusive model, the one without A/C etc will be even less. Japanese models weight even less again
    Sqaull20 wrote: »
    They say it can do 0-60 in 6.6secs or something like that

    The official figure from Toyota is 7.2 seconds, thats at the 210ps rating, at the more realistic power figure of around 190ps it will more.

    Dont get me wrong the Altezza is a good car its just not as powerful or as fast as people think or like to make out, as someone already pointed out on this thread its only really able to keep up with 1.6 hot hatches.

    But as a 4 door saloon thats more powerful than the usual family cars out there its a good choice


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    luckyfrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭luckyfrank


    Yes i guys i own the tezza turbo and ive had the car dyno'd in two different places and both guys they told me an average altezza puts out between 150 and 170 bhp on a dyno 'and they have seen countless' a mapped standerd one can get to 200 bhp but they have never seeing a N/A tezza reach it's manufacturing spec speed


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    FearDark
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    draffodx wrote: »
    I'd take the Skoda or Ford over the Altezza all day long, there is no way an Altezza is a far superior car, it drinks petrol, isn't that fast, looks crap and isn't an overly nice car to drive.

    +1 to that, I was shocked the first time I drove one, and seemingly the one I drove had extra "mods" under the bonnet, still slow as treakle.

    "Oh when that VVTI kicks in she's some beast" :rolleyes:


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