Halo: Reach screenshots leaked

0ubliette

Campaign:
Elites - Better than monkeys!
Privacy - potential drop in, drop out co-op multiplayer

Weapons:
New Needler-based Heavy Weapon - Looks like a Covenant version of the Spartan Laser!
BR - It's back with a new look!
AR - Same old, MLG favourite!
Needler - Now with more pink!
Laser - Red eye again!

:eek:

RAIN

I Heart Halo

markfla

hmmm...looks pretty much the same as the last 3 Halo games (Halo 2/Halo 2.5& Halo ODST).....over leveraged brand with nothing new.....more looking forward to Modern warfare 2, bioshock 2, mass effect 2, Alan Wake etc.

0ubliette

RAIN wrote: »

I Heart Halo

I Halo. I am literally gay for Halo.

markfla wrote: »

hmmm...looks pretty much the same as the last 3 Halo games (Halo 2/Halo 2.5& Halo ODST).....over leveraged brand with nothing new.....more looking forward to Modern warfare 2, bioshock 2, mass effect 2, Alan Wake etc.

You can tell all that from blurry screenshots of an unfinished game?! Your powers of deduction are amazing!
And anyway you can actually tell even from those shots the graphics look much improved. And if youre talking bout re-hashes you really shouldnt bring up MW2...

Fingleberries

If fairness to ODST (I was a bit disappointed with it too), but it was only designed to be an add-on / mission pack type spin off from Halo 3 and not a full price release. It was probably the powers that be at Microsoft who thought that it would be a good idea (cash cow) to release it as a full retail release.

Shame, because as DLC or a cheapy mission pack it would have been OK.

Can't say I see much new in these screens though, but they're early enough so there's plenty of time to add something really new to the game, to refresh / reboot it after Halo 3.

jesus_thats_gre

New game engine apparently:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378966

Even from the blurry shots, it looks like a noticeable improvement over the last engine.

kaimera

hmm, I didn't know 'Reach' was a FPS.

Retr0gamer

Looks like Halo. In other words another lesson in generic first person shooter 101.

Otacon

I am shocked, retr0. Wading into a Halo thread to voice your disapproval. Its not like you! :pac:

On-topic: Not really interested in this just yet. They are going to have to do more to make this a purchase for me.

kaimera

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Looks like Halo. In other words another lesson in generic first person shooter 101.

*yawn*

Took longer than expected Retro.

Vic Vinegar

It does look a fair bit better than 3/ODST there, even through those blurry images.

About time they got a new engine, lazy buggers!

markfla

0ubliette wrote: »

And if youre talking bout re-hashes you really shouldnt bring up MW2...

A rehash of a game that was far far better in my personal oppinion than any of the Halo games, Just an oppinion...I'll still probably still get it anyway.

padraig61091

who cares halo is amazingly cr*p i didnt even bother playing odst becaus halo 3 was an epic heap o sh*t

Vegeta

Does it really only take slight graphical updates to excite people these days.

I enjoy playing the campaigns co-op in a LAN but other than that I find them pretty mediocre and never really understood the hype.

About the best thing I can say for them is that they are rock solid, I cant ever remember encountering a bug in one.

Still if it has a decent campaign I'd get it for the LAN action on legendary.

RAIN

All the same negatives can be applied to Modern Warfare infact I would bet that next Tuesday we will have folks branding MW2 with meh grenades and Probably rightly so.

It can't be that bad a game, it is still no1 on Xbox Live nearly 3 years after release.
This looks deadly, I am in a very physical relationship with the spartan lazer as it is, so the new look is doing it for me on all sorts of wrong levels.

DirkVoodoo

Oh no, please let's not get into some Modern Warfare versus Halo (which will inevitably breakdown into a PS3 versus Xbox rant).

Yes, Halo's formula is getting a bit long in the tooth. I thought ODST was a solid but overly familiar campaign, saved by one or two memorable battles (a not so memorable scarab encounter) and some great voice acting. Other than that, firefight could have been released as a stand alone add-on to Halo 3 for a tenner.

I think the Halo/Bungee philosophy is "if you build it, they will come".

mayordenis

0ubliette wrote: »

I Halo. I am literally gay for Halo.

Surely Gaylo is the word your looking for?

Riesen_Meal

mayordenis wrote: »

Surely Gaylo is the word your looking for?

As gay(-lo) as the story and campaign are, Halo 3 is my favorite multiplayer game in history....

I like COD 4 aswell, but I dont think the MP has a patch on Halo's, but thats my opinion, and opinions are like ar$eholes, we all have them!

jesus_thats_gre

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Looks like Halo. In other words another lesson in generic first person shooter 101.

And I can't ****ing wait!!

Leprachaun

Where'd you find these btw?

wandatowell

Could never get into the whole Halo thing. The story just never caught my imagination.

Professey Chin

wandatowell wrote: »

Could never get into the whole Halo thing. The story just never caught my imagination.

Theres a story?

WolfForager

Played 30 minutes of the halo 3 campaign, couldn't stop comparing the feeling to a low fibre monday. Multiplayer is quite fun but i soon got sick of the screaming 12 year olds.

This looks the same a 3/ODST, Bungie have to move away from the "If it ain't broken don't fix it" frame of mind and realize that while it may not be broken it DOES eventually get old and outdated.

Sheepy99

i dont like halo.

CiDeRmAn

Mmmmm, I get warm joy joy feelings looking at this one!
Can't wait!
I have to say, only a fool with too much money plays a Halo game on normal and thinks he's seen it all so trades it in, they are fantastic on Heroic!
I am probably preaching to the converted but, well, you know, some don't get it!

So, when is this pencilled in for launch?
Autumn 2010?
Shouldn't there be a Gears Of War 3 around then?

Professey Chin

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Mmmmm, I get warm joy joy feelings looking at this one!
Can't wait!
I have to say, only a fool with too much money plays a Halo game on normal and thinks he's seen it all so trades it in, they are fantastic on Heroic!
I am probably preaching to the converted but, well, you know, some don't get it!

So, when is this pencilled in for launch?
Autumn 2010?
Shouldn't there be a Gears Of War 3 around then?

I cant tell if theres sarcasm here or not
nnnnnnnneeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaa................*head explodes*

AdMMM

wandatowell wrote: »

Could never get into the whole Halo thing. The story just never caught my imagination.

Wait a second, the story is set in the future where we're fighting against aliens using spaceships and big-ass lasers and it doesn't capture your imagination? Jesus man, what do you usually think about?

DirkVoodoo

Last I heard, GOW 3 might not be seen for a long time. I think the official line was "waiting for the next generation of consoles".

wandatowell

AdMMM wrote: »

big-ass lasers

Thats another thing, the guns are awful to say the least

Mickeroo

Screenshots look good. Do you play as the chief in this one again? I know he's not the only spartan in it this time around.

As for criticism of Halo, i see where it's coming from, halo 1 - 3 are essentially the same game, but if it aint broken dont fix it, and i think its wrth playing for the story line alone. Still, would be nice if they change it up a bit for this one.

Overature

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Mmmmm, I get warm joy joy feelings looking at this one!
Can't wait!
I have to say, only a fool with too much money plays a Halo game on normal and thinks he's seen it all so trades it in, they are fantastic on Heroic!
I am probably preaching to the converted but, well, you know, some don't get it!

So, when is this pencilled in for launch?
Autumn 2010?
Shouldn't there be a Gears Of War 3 around then?

i read somewhere that gears of war 3 is going to come out for the next generation of game console, what ever comes out after the 360

Overature

Mickeroo wrote: »

Screenshots look good. Do you play as the chief in this one again? I know he's not the only spartan in it this time around.

As for criticism of Halo, i see where it's coming from, halo 1 - 3 are essentially the same game, but if it aint broken dont fix it, and i think its wrth playing for the story line alone. Still, would be nice if they change it up a bit for this one.

i think they should definly change it, i for one want something new, a new (but good story) new weapons and the new graphics would make for an awesome game

thebman

The screenshots look blurred to hell hiding how old this engine looks by modern standards.

It needs an overhaul but they think it will sell without it. Couldn't be arsed with another Halo TBH. I have 3 and skipped ODST and I'll probably skip this. Halo is getting old and I might look at the 4 or something on the next Xbox but won't be buying any of these cash in expansion packs.

seclachi

Halo reach will probably be same as 3, 2 and 1. This series needs to move with the times and least attempt to put something more interesting into the mix than a graphical update.

lafors

Trailer from VGA on Spike

They said thats the in game engine, Nice.

WolfForager

Oooo, shiny armour! I'm already sold!

Vyse

lafors wrote: »

Trailer from VGA on Spike

They said thats the in game engine, Nice.

They also said the first Halo 3 trailer was in game. Final game looked nowhere near as good.

SuprSi

I'll give one lucky viewer my own Xbox if that's in-game footage. It's far too smooth and modern looking to be run on anything other than a high-end PC & GPU combo.

Riesen_Meal

SuprSi wrote: »

I'll give one lucky viewer my own Xbox if that's in-game footage. It's far too smooth and modern looking to be run on anything other than a high-end PC & GPU combo.

In comparison to the leaked screenshots and start of the thread I dont think its too unbelievable, its just a new engine for the game....

SuprSi

New engine or not, it's still 3 year old hardware (a long time in hardware terms) and that preview has graphics equalling what I've seen on the latest PC shooters on a top notch machine.

Don't get me wrong, I'm hugely impressed with the graphics in the preview and would be chuffed if the coding boffins managed to get the Xbox to produce actual gameplay quality graphics equalling those on show, but I'd be amazed.

SuprSi

Ok, and as a PC gamer you know how quickly hardware changes. It doesn't matter how high the spec of a PC was 3 years ago - its hardware is not capable of playing new games as they're meant to look now. I'm not saying the Xbox is outdated, far from it - what I'm saying is that a new PC with a top-of-the-line GPU (or 2) and processor will outperform an Xbox in every way.

An example of a game that looks better on a high-spec PC is Far Cry 2. Sure in the foreground things are quite similar, but the details in the background, the AA capabilities, the extra effects that DX10 brings - these are all absent from non-PC versions of the game.

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/far-cry-2_pc360-comparison-video

Tell me which one looks better? If I was obsessed with graphics and money was no object, I'd take an Alienware PC (or equivalent) over an Xbox any day because it will perform better. I'll admit the differences aren't mind-blowing, but they're obvious enough.

The thing is that most games are now written for consoles first, with PC coding coming second. As a result, the graphical differences are minimal as the code writers don't spend as much time using the additional features (which is understandable) available to them on a PC.

Look at this trailer and tell me that an Xbox could handle graphics like it;

Yes you'll have to spend the equivalent of about 12 Xbox 360 Elites to make the game look like this, but it still looks far better than anything the Xbox, in its current guise, will ever be able to produce.

I love my Xbox. I never thought I would because I played PC games for years and never liked consoles. But I've gone from being absolutely obsessed with how the game looked (in my PC days - 3d Mark, etc) to caring more about how it plays, and how comfortable it is to sit in front of a large flat-screen TV on the couch rather than in an office chair in front of a 19" monitor!

WolfForager

The only PC game that i've played on the 360 as well is Cod4. Now my laptop can only play cod4 at about 80% of the max settings but it still looks a good deal better than the 360 version..

SuprSi

LIGHTNING wrote: »

The only difference between the two far cry videos is a higher level of anti-aliasing, nothing amazing their. And the video you posted is of Rage a game that John Carmack said can run on a Xbox 360 and will be released on the console.

You wont need 12 xboxes in fact it would be easier to get it to run on a xbox as you have only one system to program for not the millions of hardware variations that exist in the PC market. Only a high spec pc will outperform an xbox 360 and that PC would cost alot more than a 360. My PC is a Dual core 3.0Ghz with a decent video card and 1.5 Tb Hdd and 4Gbs of Ram and it still wouldnt hold a candle in terms of raw processing power. A fully top of the range PC would but at a hugely increased price.

Oh and alienware PC`s are overpriced pieces of junk.

Fair enough, I'm not going to try to change your mind on this one. I've just highlighted the two most important points of your previous post. Higher levels of AA improve the look of a game and require bucket loads of raw GPU power, something the Xbox can't handle (and these aren't the only differences in the two versions anyway). And John Carmack said it can run, but I asked whether it will look like it does in the preview. The answer is no.

And you're repeating a lot of what I've already said regarding the price thing but the bottom line is that if it's graphical beauty and performance you're after and money is no object, you will not beat a high-end PC. For 95% of us, the Xbox is just right.

thebman

In fairness thouse graphics aren't anything more impressive than Gears of War 2 with probably a little extra cleaning up afterwards to make it look better than the end product probably will by getting rid of any aliasing.

I don't think the 360 will run it exactly like that but it will be pretty much the same.

I might give it a luck if they are putting in some effort. I'll see what the game play changes are like.

0ubliette

SuprSi wrote: »

New engine or not, it's still 3 year old hardware (a long time in hardware terms) and that preview has graphics equalling what I've seen on the latest PC shooters on a top notch machine.

Don't get me wrong, I'm hugely impressed with the graphics in the preview and would be chuffed if the coding boffins managed to get the Xbox to produce actual gameplay quality graphics equalling those on show, but I'd be amazed.

Your argument is invalid. Unlike PCs where 3 year old hardware will not run the latest games too well, consoles graphics generally improve over the course of their lifespan as devs get to grips with the architecture. Take a look at early PS2 games and then compare them to Shadow of the Colossus. Ditto early 360 games like GRAW, compare that to Gears 2, its night and day. IMO the 360 can easily handle whats shown in that trailer.

SuprSi

0ubliette wrote: »

Your argument is invalid. Unlike PCs where 3 year old hardware will not run the latest games too well, consoles graphics generally improve over the course of their lifespan as devs get to grips with the architecture. Take a look at early PS2 games and then compare them to Shadow of the Colossus. Ditto early 360 games like GRAW, compare that to Gears 2, its night and day. IMO the 360 can easily handle whats shown in that trailer.

I see what you're saying but that's not my argument. As Lightning mentioned above, if you want the best graphics then you have to go with a PC, though it will cost you an arm and a leg to purchase and the same again to keep it up to date, and is something best left to the die-hard PC fanatics.

Do you honestly think that John Carmack will present Rage to the public on an Xbox? Again the answer is no because the PC he'll use (which will undoubtedly have cost thousands) will make it look better.

RAIN

Holy sheeeeeeet

Helix

Interesting factoid... There are more polygons in the assault rifle in reach than there were in the whole of the first 3 games

thebman

I'll keep an eye on it.

It really just shows how little went into the engine for Halo 3 that they can improve it so much.

It as and appeared like an upgraded version of the Xbox engine and not a proper engine for a next gen game and it looked very dated in ODST.

Hopefully reach will live up to the marketing hype they seem to already be putting out there.

Chairman Meow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MB86009pGU

CiDeRmAn

You know what, I love Halo, I have loved all the games in the series, aside from that Halo Wars business, it seems cosy here amongst you other Halo fans.
Have to say though, there's a bunch of people on the Arcade & Retro pages who just don't understand, and all I get there is grief for my slavish devotion to all things Master Chief.

I know they are watching, so feck off you shower of jrpg playing, Streets of Rage/GoldenAxe loving weirdoes!

I like Halo, I can't wait for Halo Reach, so why should I be embarrassed???