Only the Signature is missing..!

vectra

Raikkonen - McLaren : Only the signature is missing

http://www.tomorrownewsf1.com/f1-raikkonen-mclaren-reste-la-signature-8913

Between truths, revelations and other contradictions, all ingredients have helped to maintain the suspense. But we can announce it today: Kimi Raikkonen will definately go to McLaren in 2010.

A mutual agreement exists between both parties and its only missing the 2007 world champions signature, which will not take long now. There have been numerous mishaps and stumble blocks. But compromises have been made on both sides by McLaren and Kimi Raikkonen-Robertson.

Kimi will not take a sabbatical year like announced here earlier, and there will be no more playing games to keep the suspense (thanks to Mr Robertson). Kimi Raikkonen will definately be the second driver at McLaren in 2010 and 2011.

There is rumours that the contract will be for 3 million plus 200 000 per point and 1 million per win.

Cookie_Monster

vectra wrote: »

There is rumours that the contract will be for 3 million plus 200 000 per point and 1 million per win.

Thats pretty sweet deal. Considering how many points he got this year with such a dog of a car...

thegoth

Of this partnership comes true, it will be reason enough to watch every second of next years championship

Bit early to start the opinions over who will win this one

amacachi

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Thats pretty sweet deal. Considering how many points he got this year with such a dog of a car...

Unless he wins almost every race it's a substantial pay cut.

In other words he'll be on almost what he's on now, isn't that right vectra?

vectra

amacachi wrote: »

Unless he wins almost every race it's a substantial pay cut.

In other words he'll be on almost what he's on now, isn't that right vectra?

Theoretically yes.
BUT
If you include the €25 million payoff from Ferrari he could exceed this years salary

Roll on next season..

Cookie_Monster

amacachi wrote: »

Unless he wins almost every race it's a substantial pay cut.

In other words he'll be on almost what he's on now, isn't that right vectra?

Yeah but he was hardly going to get a pre-recession deal matched was he?

It should be the way all drivers are paid. Lower base salary and huge bonuses for points and wins, should liven it up a bit

vectra

More news has emerged.
if Kimi takes a sabatical for 2010 Ferrari pays them €17 million (not 25 as I thought)

If he drives for another team he gets only €10 Million
So
McLaren jump on the bandwagon and offer him €5 mil on top of Ferraris €10 = €15
Hmm..
Hope he takes McLarens offer

Frank Bullitt

He is far too motivated by money,would like to see him race next year,but i cant see him doing too well in McLaren although i would love to see him beat Lewis

vectra

Gintonious wrote: »

He is far too motivated by money,would like to see him race next year,but i cant see him doing too well in McLaren although i would love to see him beat Lewis

Well that would be 15 Plus extras
200k per point and 1 mil per win
so for a win he would get
10 points x 200k = 2 mil
Plus the 1 mil for winning = 3 mil
Plus his salary = 18 mil in total
That is just for one win ..
Enough motivation for anyone there I would imagine

frostie500

Gintonious wrote: »

He is far too motivated by money,would like to see him race next year,but i cant see him doing too well in McLaren although i would love to see him beat Lewis

Why do you say he is too motivated by money? He looked to get out McLaren and sign for Ferrari because at the time McLaren couldn't offer him a car to challenge for the title due to reliability issues and not because Ferrari offered him big money

thegoth

vectra wrote: »

Well that would be 15 Plus extras
200k per point and 1 mil per win
so for a win he would get
10 points x 200k = 2 mil
Plus the 1 mil for winning = 3 mil
Plus his salary = 18 mil in total
That is just for one win ..
Enough motivation for anyone there I would imagine

I'd be very nervous if I was a second ahead of Kimi next year with 3 laps to go :rolleyes:

vectra

thegoth wrote: »

I'd be very nervous if I was a second ahead of Kimi next year with 3 laps to go :rolleyes:

Even if you were 3 seconds ahead with one lap to go

Frank Bullitt

If he does take this "sabbatical" then I wouldnt expect to see him in F1 again either.

Top Dog

vectra wrote: »

More news has emerged.
if Kimi takes a sabatical for 2010 Ferrari pays them €17 million (not 25 as I thought)

If he drives for another team he gets only €10 Million
So
McLaren jump on the bandwagon and offer him €5 mil on top of Ferraris €10 = €15
Hmm..
Hope he takes McLarens offer

So he could potentially earn more sitting on his ass at home than if he took the McLaren seat?

vectra

Top Dog wrote: »

So he could potentially earn more sitting on his ass at home than if he took the McLaren seat?

Yes.
Thats if he only sat and didnt bother getting any points.
But
each point he gains will get him an extra €200,000
Each win gives him an extra €1,000,000
Plus the €2,000,000 for 10 points = €3,000,000

So I dont think he will just sit on his Ass.

Top Dog

vectra wrote: »

So I dont think he will just sit on his Ass.

Hopefully we'll know soon enough whether you're right or not

thegoth

vectra wrote: »

Even if you were 3 seconds ahead with one lap to go

If I was 60 seconds ahead with three laps left, he would still pass me, maybe even lap me

vectra

thegoth wrote: »

If I was 60 seconds ahead with three laps left, he would still pass me, maybe even lap me

LOL

mickdw

3 million for a win, 1.6million for second. He is not going to throw away the 1.6m either with a mad move near the end of a race, is he?

thegoth

mickdw wrote: »

3 million for a win, 1.6million for second. He is not going to throw away the 1.6m either with a mad move near the end of a race, is he?

True enough.

aphex™

It's dragging on a bit isn't it?

Wonder are they talking to Heidfeld

Iron Hide

aphex™ wrote: »

It's dragging on a bit isn't it?

Wonder are they talking to Heidfeld

First Rosberg seemed signed to McLaren, now theres talk of him at Brawn next year.. Heidfeld is a possibility but i'd reckon Mclaren want a proven racewinner to boost their constructors title hopes...

smooch71

McLaren might be waiting to see will Brawn make a balls of the contract negotiations with Button. I reckon the new regime at McLaren would rather have number 1 on the car.

EvilMonkey

I would say the deal is done there just waiting to announce it, I reckon the McLaren regime would like to win a title and then put 1 on their car.

smooch71

EvilMonkey wrote: »

I would say the deal is done there just waiting to announce it, I reckon the McLaren regime would like to win a title and then put 1 on their car.

True but I think they rate Hamilton a lot higher than anyone else including Raikkonen. Button could come cheaper with the coveted number 1 sticker.

Just a thought

Iron Hide

smooch71 wrote: »

True but I think they rate Hamilton a lot higher than anyone else including Raikkonen. Button could come cheaper with the coveted number 1 sticker.

Just a thought

Very true, Brawns offer of about 6 million doesn't seem to be tempting Jenson. McLaren have the resources to offer at least double that. Could see Heidfeld and Rosberg at Brawn then..

zeris

Button visited Woking yesterday which is probably just for the purposes of putting with rush on both Kimi and Brawn

Oblomov

Hate to say this, but.

Jensen Button and his Manger were guests of McLaren at the Woking establishment, had a guided tour on Thursday 12th November 2009

Rumour has it that Kimi has priced himself out of the market.

Kimi wants freedom to Ice race and Rally, McLaren do not want the risk of an injured driver.

vectra

I would say Jenson was a guest of Mercedes

Oblomov

Pity Norbert wasn't there then, and Martin had to show them round...

EvilMonkey

Oblomov wrote: »

Hate to say this, but.

Jensen Button and his Manger were guests of McLaren at the Woking establishment, had a guided tour on Thursday 12th November 2009

Rumour has it that Kimi has priced himself out of the market.

Kimi wants freedom to Ice race and Rally, McLaren do not want the risk of an injured driver.

I wouldn't be too worried about that theatrical piece brought to us by McLaren staring Jenson.

Its not about the money he just wants to feel wanted - err No

Oblomov

Brawn are quoted as saying they will allow Jensen the commercial rights to his achievements....no more money as long as he completes his obligations to the team..

But, he's doing that already..

EvilMonkey

Oblomov wrote: »

Brawn are quoted as saying they will allow Jensen the commercial rights to his achievements....no more money as long as he completes his obligations to the team..

But, he's doing that already..

So he needs to do more if he wants more money, If he cant raise the money he thinks he is worth with personal sponsors, why should he expect Brawn to raise the money for him to pay the shortfall?

Oblomov

why should he expect Brawn to raise the money for him to pay the shortfall?

Bring into line with the other leading teams, almost a standard wage for the job.

Jensen took a cut to help the team in a time of need and the team, do nothing for their leading driver after he wins the championship for them.

Sounds like good man-management and ...... I'm very surprised neither he nor his manager appear to have tied in bonus for wins and championship points and the prospect of winning the championship.

Leading conscientious, team motivated driver doing all he can to help the team and gets sh1t on from a great height for all his efforts.

Wonder how much Nico Rosberg is getting for joining the team? Or when he joins the team.

Iron Hide

He's on $8m this year with Williams i think, Doubt he'll get half that at Brawn considering they only offered Jenson $6m

Oblomov

Would you move for a £2mill cut in wages? Even with the promise of a win.

EvilMonkey

Oblomov wrote: »

Bring into line with the other leading teams, almost a standard wage for the job.

He is not a leading driver though. He's WC and still doesn't have a contract and Brawn wont stay a leading teem by throwing money around.

Jensen took a cut to help the team in a time of need and the team, do nothing for their leading driver after he wins the championship for them.

Yes he did and I'm sure the teem were grateful, he also got to keep his F1 drive and given a platform to win from.

Sounds like good man-management and ...... I'm very surprised neither he nor his manager appear to have tied in bonus for wins and championship points and the prospect of winning the championship.

Good teem management would be not overpaying for a driver. Im sure he and his managment realise he is unlikely to win as much next year.

Leading conscientious, team motivated driver doing all he can to help the team and gets sh1t on from a great height for all his efforts.

As far as i can see he is trying to exploit a possible investment in the teem by Merc or their Arab mates. Brawn would be foolish to start throwing money around before deals are signed, and if they were going that way Kimi is supposedly available. I also expect Rosberg to match or outscore Button next year.

Wonder how much Nico Rosberg is getting for joining the team? Or when he joins the team.

Me too, i wounder if he has more personal sponsherp raised than button?

Oblomov

Oh.. wot... McDonalds.... Nico's sponsors

Frank Bullitt

I think we may have seen the last of Kimi with this new deal for Brawn,time will tell i suppose.

Slutmonkey57b

Merc are clearly smarting from McLaren's refusal to allow themselves to be rebranded a german works team, so they've bought Brawn and are bringing in an all German lineup.
Didn't work too well for BMW I seem to recall. Sucks to be Jenson, if he hadn't had his mid-season wobble, he'd be in an undeniable no.1 position in the team, and the McLaren won't suit his driving style at all, not to mention Hamilton sr. attempting to **** him over all day long. Reminiscent of Frank Williams after dumping Damon Hill, he had massive trouble getting decent drivers again. Brawn has at least the benefit of Merc's money to bring in drivers but I wonder how he'll enjoy being back under the thumb of an overbearing owner (Haug)?

Slutmonkey57b

mysterious double post

Iron Hide

Looks like Jensons gonna be at Woking anyway next year.. I wish him all the best and hope the best for him but give a season or two and he'll be fuming at Hamilton JR and SR...

Christ they might aswell go ahead and buy a few shares in Force India while they're at it...

Iron Hide

Gintonious wrote: »

I think we may have seen the last of Kimi with this new deal for Brawn,time will tell i suppose.

With Haug having half of Mercedes-Benz' turnover stuffed in his wallet, Kimi may yet be offered the squillions he was paid for the past couple of seasons.. And i do recall him saying a racewinning car was what he required, constructors champions chassis should do him fine then....

EvilMonkey

I take back what i said about a deal with Kimi already done, could still happen we will see.
I think McLaren move would be wrong for Jenson though.

Chopper888

Red Storm wrote: »

He's on $8m this year with Williams i think, Doubt he'll get half that at Brawn considering they only offered Jenson $6m

Rosberg is on $8.5 million with Williams according to crash.net. Check this link out , it reveals all the current drivers salaries.

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/154093/1/f1_2009_driver_salaries_revealed.html

Slutmonkey57b

I think the sticking point with Jenson and Brawn may not even be the amount of money, it's that Rosberg might be on the same (or more) thanks to his Mercedes connections, which in fairness would hardly be equitable.

Still, a move to McLaren is absolutely the wrong move for him. He should take what he can get at Brawn and leave Kimi to work out if taking a sabbatical is better than taking a paycut to drive for the Sons of Ron again.

frostie500

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

I think the sticking point with Jenson and Brawn may not even be the amount of money, it's that Rosberg might be on the same (or more) thanks to his Mercedes connections, which in fairness would hardly be equitable.

Still, a move to McLaren is absolutely the wrong move for him. He should take what he can get at Brawn and leave Kimi to work out if taking a sabbatical is better than taking a paycut to drive for the Sons of Ron again.

Does Rosberg have any Mercedes connections other then being German? I think this is a similer situation to Hill in 96, the team doesn't have confidence that Button can win consistantly due to his form in the middle of the season and won't offer him a big salery. McLaren on the other hand have a driver in Hamilton that they know can win races/championships and will offer Button a deal with a wage similer to the offer from Brawn but will lace it with incentivies and challenge Button to make his money in prises(similer to the Kimi deal offered.)

Button would do well to pay heed to Hill's last few years when at Arrows and Jordan where he won one race but had a bad car in 97, half of 98 and very little motivation in 99.

Oblomov

The key issue, Mercedes/ Daimler buy into Chrysler US and create a dog..the man behind it Dr. Dieter Zetsche, is not held in high regard in the US for his business acumen. The same man has been behind the buy out of Brawn and the remarks showing his distaste over McLaren building their own sports car. This does not bode well for future relationships if the Brawn car does not continue its winning ways.

Build into that the reaction by Mercedes to the advent of Volkswagen into Euro F3. Merc had been the dominant supplier and suddenly VW come along and take away some of the kudos and the paying customers.

Cosworth on the horizon, Renault still involved and a rumour that McLaren had enquired about the BMW race engine set up. All building an engine to a specific blue print. Cosworth's knowledge base and expertise could be the fly in the F1 engine deals.

The Toro Rosso stable and the brilliance of their designer, Adrian Newey, could be a strong challenger for honours next season.

Mercdes buying into Brawn does not seem to have the promise of success that is associated with the McLaren brand.

Firewalkwithme

Oblomov wrote: »

The Toro Rosso stable and the brilliance of their designer, Adrian Newey, could be a strong challenger for honours next season.

Newey is with Red Bull.

Toro Rosso will be designing their own car next year in Faenza so I doubt it will be up to much.

Oblomov

Red Bull/Torro Rosso are owned by who?

If it's a new car and Newey has had an influence .... watch this space.

His designs won numerous races for Williams, McLaren .. et al. he has not lost that talent.

Firewalkwithme

Oblomov wrote: »

Red Bull/Torro Rosso are owned by who?

If it's a new car and Newey has had an influence .... watch this space.

His designs won numerous races for Williams, McLaren .. et al. he has not lost that talent.

I'm fully aware of the work Newey has done but he won't be involved with Toro Rosso is what I'm saying - they are designing their own chassis next season.