Bad Day on the Eastside :(

Thargor

Went to park my bike outside Nestors Supervalue out in Ballybrit to go in and get some steak, 4 young knackers that always seem to hang around there surrounded me, demanded the bike and a fiver and my phone, the leader said if I locked my bike he'd stab me, so I had to kind of shoulder past him and pedal off, they broke my mudguard as I went, the security guard from Supervalu stood there doing nothing, Im going to ring and tell them Im never going in their shop again because of it. So I went to the butchers over beside Londis next to Thermo King to get the steak, turns out it burned down last night, and the hairdressers 2 doors down from it had been ram-raided at the weekend, society is collapsing

MargeS

The Mervue Londis burned down????

LadyMayBelle

That's sad to hear! My bro used to work in the video store there and had some stories about those young lads. As much as he had funny ones (one smart arse seven year old who came in and threw some fighting Dvd on the counter saying "I want this DVD, a bag of Popcorn and your phone") he had some scary ones. The young lads who hang about there are brazen as anything and the security guards are afraid to do anything because of how they might retaliate.

Might sound like a joke that young lads tried to rob your bike, but I know from growing up in that area, it ain't funny at all:(

Hadn't realised the butchers was burned, that's terible. I know a lad who works there too:(

Places broke into in Castlelawn aswell... Scum.

In the long run, it's only a matter of time before tougher gangs try move in on Galway.. Like when the lads landed into Limerick from London.

Hopefully I'll be gone tho.

Fuinseog

Deleted User wrote: »

Places broke into in Castlelawn aswell... Scum.

In the long run, it's only a matter of time before tougher gangs try move in on Galway.. Like when the lads landed into Limerick from London.

Hopefully I'll be gone tho.

I believe certain Dubs are making full use of citilinks 1 Euro Dublin Galway fare.

LadyMayBelle

Fuinseog wrote: »

I believe certain Dubs are making full use of citilinks 1 Euro Dublin Galway fare.

Not sure how true that is tho, citylink only offer a limited number of one euro seats on each route (the lady in the office was unable to give a figure :cool: but when my boyf booked bus tickets weeks in advance only two were available).

Can;t find on the news about the butchers burning down tho.. any one have any info?

Xiney

Jesus Christ - that's terrible

Thargor

They didnt get my phone or any money or the bike I should say after re-reading the OP, apart from a €20 mudguard that is.

Daragh101

Deleted User wrote: »

Places broke into in Castlelawn aswell... Scum.

In the long run, it's only a matter of time before tougher gangs try move in on Galway.. Like when the lads landed into Limerick from London.

Hopefully I'll be gone tho.

when did london lads land into limerick:eek::eek:

Mike...

Daragh101 wrote: »

when did london lads land into limerick:eek::eek:

Geezers wouldn't last 2 minutes in stab

hairyfairy00

LadyPennyworth wrote: »

Not sure how true that is tho, citylink only offer a limited number of one euro seats on each route (the lady in the office was unable to give a figure :cool: but when my boyf booked bus tickets weeks in advance only two were available).

Can;t find on the news about the butchers burning down tho.. any one have any info?

Heard it on the GBFM news today that the apartment above the butchers was on fire, hope the butchers didn't go up as well. I know the owner, he's one of my uncles best mates

Das Kitty

When I lived there it used to be just funny little bold mouthed kids, used to get great craic out of them, I suppose they grew up and got more brazen, way it goes.

The Mervue shops used to be where the tougher teenage asses hung around but as I was local I got left alone (or my dog minded while I was in the shop). They used to give workers from the factory or students a terrible hard time going in and coming out.

Heard about the hairdressers alright and that they were "local". Didn't hear about the fire though.

Jaysus, the Mammy will never get her house sold.

Daragh101

Daragh101 wrote: »

when did london lads land into limerick:eek::eek:

Mike... wrote: »

Geezers wouldn't last 2 minutes in stab

England has 100 times the gang problem we do... Of course they'd last.


One half of the McCarthyDundon outfit used to be a gang in London.. Then everything went bad over there so they came back to family in Limerick. That's when everything started down there. They arrived with automatic machine guns and everyone had to up their game.

That's what I was told and a google search there seems to turn up the same story.. I could be wrong obviously.

Daragh101

Deleted User wrote: »

England has 100 times the gang problem we do... Of course they'd last.


One half of the McCarthyDundon outfit used to be a gang in London.. Then everything went bad over there so they came back to family in Limerick. That's when everything started down there. They arrived with automatic machine guns and everyone had to up their game.

That's what I was told and a google search there seems to turn up the same story.. I could be wrong obviously.

ya but most the gang members in london are usally black wannabeees smoking dope on street corners.....In limerick the gang members are little groups of annoying scumbags....or tinkers!!.....neither of which I of would call hardcore gangsters!
I wouldnt call it a gang problem, but more antisocial behavior than anything!

gary82

Thargor wrote: »

I went to the butchers over beside Londis next to Thermo King to get the steak, turns out it burned down last night

Can you imagine the smell coming from that? Mmmnn :rolleyes:

donmeister

Thargor wrote: »

Went to park my bike outside Nestors Supervalue out in Ballybrit to go in and get some steak, 4 young knackers that always seem to hang around there surrounded me, demanded the bike and a fiver and my phone, the leader said if I locked my bike he'd stab me, so I had to kind of shoulder past him and pedal off, they broke my mudguard as I went, the security guard from Supervalu stood there doing nothing, Im going to ring and tell them Im never going in their shop again because of it. So I went to the butchers over beside Londis next to Thermo King to get the steak, turns out it burned down last night, and the hairdressers 2 doors down from it had been ram-raided at the weekend, society is collapsing

That was your first mistake.

dec25532

Thargor wrote: »

Went to park my bike outside Nestors Supervalue out in Ballybrit to go in and get some steak, 4 young knackers that always seem to hang around there surrounded me, demanded the bike and a fiver and my phone, the leader said if I locked my bike he'd stab me, so I had to kind of shoulder past him and pedal off, they broke my mudguard as I went, the security guard from Supervalu stood there doing nothing, Im going to ring and tell them Im never going in their shop again because of it. So I went to the butchers over beside Londis next to Thermo King to get the steak, turns out it burned down last night, and the hairdressers 2 doors down from it had been ram-raided at the weekend, society is collapsing

Unfortunately it is not the security guard's duty in Supervalu to mind your bike and nor should he be responsible for anything that happens outside his workplace. Presume he was not responsible for the car park. It was a terrible incident and something has become very familiar in galway city. Jeeze look at the Knocknacarra incidents on Halloween night.

GuessWho2009

seriously gettin bad round here, them scum bags that done the barbers in mervue and the chinese and butchers in castlelawn are either brothers or cousins, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. scum of scum they be lucky to get 2 weeks in prision

qwytre

I wouldn't blame the security guard. He is employed to look after Supervalue, not intervene in a public disturbance. On a personal level yes he probably should have stepped in to help you but who is to say he has been instructed not to get involved with things like that outside of the premises.

galwaybabe

Mods, names are getting named here

topper75

Deleted User wrote: »

England has 100 times the gang problem we do... Of course they'd last.


One half of the McCarthyDundon outfit used to be a gang in London.. Then everything went bad over there so they came back to family in Limerick. That's when everything started down there. They arrived with automatic machine guns and everyone had to up their game.

That's what I was told and a google search there seems to turn up the same story.. I could be wrong obviously.

This info is correct. I think they were a nasty freak for Limerick though and it shouldn't happen in Galway. I read about some stuff they were doing as pups in London and they were very vicious from the off, beating up of pensioners in flats. Limerick had some tough guys for sure pre-2000 and it had a drug trade (what town in Ireland doesn't ) but this London scum brought it to a whole new level and are key to the feud down there.

OP - worth a call to the cops? just to register it if nothing else. If you don't tell 'em, they can't know.

biko

I think the key to stop it is to nip it the bud, before they turn to more serious criminality, not that mugging people is light-weight.
Often these kids are 1) bored and 2) get away with it - this leads to worse offences because no-one says "enough".
Do inform the guards, if you have it on CCTV too from the shop at least the incident in down on paper.

alibabba

qwytre wrote: »

I wouldn't blame the security guard. He is employed to look after Supervalue, not intervene in a public disturbance. On a personal level yes he probably should have stepped in to help you but who is to say he has been instructed not to get involved with things like that outside of the premises.

I wouldnt blame the guard, but if between the two of them, they gave these young pups a right good kicking, they'd feic off to some other place for good, its the only thing they understand, sadly im afraid

Daragh101

Daragh101 wrote: »

ya but most the gang members in london are usally black wannabeees smoking dope on street corners.....In limerick the gang members are little groups of annoying scumbags....or tinkers!!.....neither of which I of would call hardcore gangsters!
I wouldnt call it a gang problem, but more antisocial behavior than anything!

It is a gang problem.. They import and deal heroin etc and have a rivalry with another drug gang which has ended up in alot of deaths.

Anti-social behaviour is fighting outside supermacs. These guys are knackers at the end of the day but are also an organised outfit.

KevR

The parents should be held responsible. If they are on benefits the least they can do to return the favour to the country is to keep their little brats in line. If they won't come down tough on their kids and make them behave, their benefits should be stopped (no dole, no rent allowance, no childrens allowance....nothing). They should be put out on the street to starve.

I know there are some parents who try their best but still have troublesome kids. But there are many who don't try at all. Also, there is a fair share of parents who work and don't do anything about their bratty kids; I'm sure there are ways other than cutting off benefits to penalise them.

Kazooie

Thargor wrote: »

Went to park my bike outside Nestors Supervalue out in Ballybrit to go in and get some steak, 4 young knackers that always seem to hang around there surrounded me, demanded the bike and a fiver and my phone, the leader said if I locked my bike he'd stab me, so I had to kind of shoulder past him and pedal off, they broke my mudguard as I went, the security guard from Supervalu stood there doing nothing, Im going to ring and tell them Im never going in their shop again because of it. So I went to the butchers over beside Londis next to Thermo King to get the steak, turns out it burned down last night, and the hairdressers 2 doors down from it had been ram-raided at the weekend, society is collapsing

Granted he was just acting the jumped up little bolix but is that not a serious threat?? :eek: Although you probably actually have to be stabbed for the guards to do something about it these days..

Thargor

Not really any different from threatening to break someones neck though is it? He didnt seem to have a knife so it would be like arresting someone for a figure of speech, the Guards wouldnt give a **** if I brought them this story.

fmul9798

my 2 cents worth...
Someone asked you for bike+money+phone and threatened to stab you. You post on boards.ie - have you reported the incdent to the Gardai ? if not, are you looking for boardsie justice?
by not reporting this, nothing can possibly be done about it.

Krieg

How the hell do you burn down a butchers shop?

KevR

fmul9798 wrote: »

my 2 cents worth...
Someone asked you for bike+money+phone and threatened to stab you. You post on boards.ie - have you reported the incdent to the Gardai ? if not, are you looking for boardsie justice?
by not reporting this, nothing can possibly be done about it.

At least by posting it here people will be aware that there is a gang of brats hanging around that area. There's no harm in people being informed of things like that.

kippy

KevR wrote: »

At least by posting it here people will be aware that there is a gang of brats hanging around that area. There's no harm in people being informed of things like that.

OP
You've really got to report this stuff.
There are certain areas around town which have always had these elements around them, its not a new thing per se.
No harm in informing people, yeah, but it wont do much to stop it.

Amazotheamazing

topper75 wrote: »

This info is correct. I think they were a nasty freak for Limerick though and it shouldn't happen in Galway. I read about some stuff they were doing as pups in London and they were very vicious from the off, beating up of pensioners in flats. Limerick had some tough guys for sure pre-2000 and it had a drug trade (what town in Ireland doesn't ) but this London scum brought it to a whole new level and are key to the feud down there.

OP - worth a call to the cops? just to register it if nothing else. If you don't tell 'em, they can't know.

Afaik, the gang didn't have any original connection to Limerick, one of them married into a family of travellers who had connections in Limerick. disaster really.

Pretty sure the same gang will eventually move out of Limerick too, once the hassle gets too much for them.

ronnie3585

Krieg wrote: »

How the hell do you burn down a butchers shop?

With fire?

Zzippy

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Afaik, the gang didn't have any original connection to Limerick, one of them married into a family of travellers who had connections in Limerick. disaster really.

Pretty sure the same gang will eventually move out of Limerick too, once the hassle gets too much for them.

19 dead since the feud began about 6/7 years ago. I don't think they're going anywhere soon...

WesternNight

I avoid that area if I can at all...although I do make the odd trip out to Supervalu or Xtra-Vision. It's always been infested by this kind of stuff. It's not only there anymore though, it's everywhere

alibabba

Reporting to the cops is also a waste of time.
A family member runs a shop in town and is sick and tired of the cops attitude, he rings them if there is trouble outside the shop and gets no interest from the cops.
They'll fill in the paperwork and that will be it.
Calling it a waste of time posting on threads is a bit wrong, at least it highlights to people to be on their guard if going to that shop.

zero19

Krieg wrote: »

How the hell do you burn down a butchers shop?

Who knows but i bet the smell was delicious!

pencil

KevR wrote: »

At least by posting it here people will be aware that there is a gang of brats hanging around that area. There's no harm in people being informed of things like that.

Too right, my wife & little one go up to Super Valu in ballybane 2-3 times a week...... after reading this thread..... Not anymore!

P.s do report it to the Garda.

pencil

I was going to inform Super Valu of this thread in the hope it would spur them into action.....

There are no contact email addresses available on their site http://www.supervalu.ie/home/about_us.589.aboutus.html

Guess they don't want feedback from their customers.

O well!

lovelyhome

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KevR

KevR wrote: »

The parents should be held responsible. If they are on benefits the least they can do to return the favour to the country is to keep their little brats in line. If they won't come down tough on their kids and make them behave, their benefits should be stopped (no dole, no rent allowance, no childrens allowance....nothing). They should be put out on the street to starve.

I know there are some parents who try their best but still have troublesome kids. But there are many who don't try at all. Also, there is a fair share of parents who work and don't do anything about their bratty kids; I'm sure there are ways other than cutting off benefits to penalise them.

This reminds me of a conversation i was having with a friend lately.

I put forward the argument that i think parents should need a license to have children.

How and ever, while ''Child Benefit'' remains, scum-bags will continue to have children as they're only in it for the money

KevR

Read an article recently that a woman in some part of Scotland was told she is too stupid to have kids or get married. Basically the council won't allow her to get married and they have said if she ever does have kids that they will be immediately taken from her custody (presumeably because she wouldn't be able to raise them properly and they would be a high risk of turning out as troublesome kids/teens).

Make of that, what you will.

jayoo

Certain people should never be allowed to breed

RustyNut

pencil wrote: »

I was going to inform Super Valu of this thread in the hope it would spur them into action.....

There are no contact email addresses available on their site http://www.supervalu.ie/home/about_us.589.aboutus.html

Guess they don't want feedback from their customers.

O well!

group@musgrave.ie

Fuinseog

in bygone days of yore you would have had a shilleleagh to crack heads.

Fuinseog

jayoo wrote: »

Certain people should never be allowed to breed

waht does the city do for these people nada. if you want to blame anyone, blame the city fathers. they do nothing for the people of Galway. galway has very few FREE facilities (if you have money its a different matter). what about a few basketball courts or skateboard parks. have seen them abroad and there was less crime as a result.

Fuinseog

gilberto_eire wrote: »

This reminds me of a conversation i was having with a friend lately.

I put forward the argument that i think parents should need a license to have children.

How and ever, while ''Child Benefit'' remains, scum-bags will continue to have children as they're only in it for the money

if you have money then you are looked after. if you don't too bad. no wonder these people have such a chip on their shoulder. its cheaper to build facilities for tehm than to incarcerate tehm

Fuinseog

jayoo wrote: »

Certain people should never be allowed to breed

should working class people be forefully sterilised? sounds like soemthing out of Ross o carroll kelly book.

dloob

Fuinseog wrote: »

waht does the city do for these people nada. if you want to blame anyone, blame the city fathers. they do nothing for the people of Galway. galway has very few FREE facilities (if you have money its a different matter). what about a few basketball courts or skateboard parks. have seen them abroad and there was less crime as a result.

Ahh the old society is to blame for them being scumbags, didn't give them enough free stuff so they had to stab and rob decent people as a result.
Yeah real sob stories.

alibabba

We didnt have anything when we were growing up, but we didnt use that as an excuse to go round htreatening to stab people.
The previous statement should be also changed to SOME parents need a licence to have children

Parents are to blame for mis-behaving children, full stop.

muskyj

alibabba wrote: »

We didnt have anything when we were growing up, but we didnt use that as an excuse to go round htreatening to stab people.
The previous statement should be also changed to SOME parents need a licence to have children

Parents are to blame for mis-behaving children, full stop.

Thank you for that. didnt have anything either when growing up (as well as most of the people around at the time) but that didnt stop us from being taught manners and to show a bit of respect. blaming 'society' is such a cop out!